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joyboy123
06-26-2005, 03:31 AM
Important article to read about how dangerous it can be if you are looking for a quick and cheap way to get it done.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20050625-1304-silicone.html

NYCe
06-26-2005, 08:38 PM
Not all silicone injections are bad. Do a search I think that poster by the name of "Allanah Starr" might have commented on this. :lol:

Vicki Richter
06-26-2005, 09:17 PM
They are all bad. Silicone migrates NYCe. It doesn't matter what kind it is, eventually it will end up in places you don't want it to be. There is a reason that girls end up with 44" hips and I don't care what they say, it isn't because they started out wanting them like that. How many girls do you see in Playboy with 40+" hips? Maybe in a BBW magazine, but it's far from the ideal.

I have friends who have it, and they comment on needing more because it shifts after time. There was some 50 year old tranny at QM who had to wear special panties to hold her ass up because her skin, becoming more elastic with age, could no longer support the weight. Guess what the procedure is to remove it... It's called scraping. It's nasty and painful and even then they can't promise to get all of it.

This woman who just got busted... well it wasn't the first time she'd been injecting girls. Please don't buy into Dr. Allanah's advice on this topic. We'll see her at 50 with her perfectly round 60" hips/ass and 20" ankles and 30" thighs.

ps - conversely I'll probably have a 32" totally busted flat ass at that point so I guess there are pro's and cons to both right?

Felicia Katt
06-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Since I respect both Vicki and Alanah, without taking a position on it, here is a good article with a lot of information about this issue.

http://www.yestheyrefake.net/liquid_silicone_risks.htm

I have some friends who have done it and look awesome, but then I have seen some kinda scary outcomes too.

Felicia

AllanahStarrNYC
06-27-2005, 12:19 AM
First of all, I am not a doctor & I do not think I have advocated
anyone using silicone injections. It is simply the only alternative for many people to get a female shape. I had no shape before silicone injections.
My body shape was that of an upside down triangle. Thanks to the injections, I have been able to attain the shape I wanted it.


The only reason silcione injections are not allowed in the US is because
silcone can migrate, it can harden, it is permanent, and it is very, very difficult to remove-virtually impossible. I have had injections for over 10 years now and it is still in place. I have met many transexuals who have had silicone for 30 plus years and their bodies are soft and still look good. NYce knows some of this girls cause they frequent the party sometimes. In France, the use of injectible silicone is common in the face, as in many other parts of the world.

First, we must realize that everyone´s body is different. Second, we must compare the results to the kind of silcione injected and the technitian.
I speak froma first person point of view-knowing and seeing in person the bodies of transsexuals for many years, and discussing our experiences I have seen horrors as well as wonderful work.

I have silcione injections in my face and body-alot of it. I have never had a problem or a reaction. Now let me tell you this, FROM ALL THE TIMES I HAVE BEEN PUMPED, the one time I had a reaction was when I decided to have Restyline, a FDA approved, injectible-which is supposed to have NO allergies-and of course I had a horrible reaction to it. It infact still sweels up from time to time and I am waiting for it to go away. NOW, after that experience I will never use anythign but silicone as a filler. Restyline they have now found, can have adverse reactions on some people-vistually every filler on the market can cause allergies except silicone. The reason medical grade silicone causes no reaction, it is because it is an inert substance. Your body does not recognize it, but it does not reject it nor
nor abosorb it so it forms a layer of scar tissue around it. This comes from the mouths of plastic surgeons I have inquired with.

It is my belief, from my own personal accounts, that silicone, true medical grade and used correctly and applied in conservative sized amounts, can have yield very, very good results. OF COURSE things can go wrong. If it is injected to close the skin it can cause a the look of an orange peel. If the product is not medical grade it can cause deformations, permanent darkening of the skin, infections, severe hardening, and granulomas, just to name a few. As I said before, I have seen some really bad jobs-people who were hacked up by quacks.

NOW TO U MS. RICHTER

Of course people who end up with 44 inch hips want them that way. My hips are 42 inches, and I designed them that way. Is that not what cosmetic alterations are about? Who is thinking about Playboy? Since when is Playboy the ideal for everyone? It certainly is not mine. Though those women are truly beautiful and their airbrushing work is fantastic. But I am much more interested in looking like shapely, then have no hips and a flat ass as what is considered "ideal" today by hollywood, tv, and the press. Hunny I wil gladly take Jayne Mansfield, Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch, Jane Russell, or any of those exceptional beauties over the twigs with implants running around today.

Secondly, your comment about scraping is incorrect. They can remove some amounts but silicone can not be lipoed out or removed completely.
If you have problems with it, no surgeon in the USA wilk touch you because they can not get rid of it. I have seen surgeons in other countries try to take it out, and the patient usually ends up disfigured with massive scars because silcone, or what have you, adheres to the muscle, tissues, and bonds with it.

Thirdly, all you do is bitch about silicone-something you have no experience with personally or care to have. Why dont you make suggestions of alternatives instead of talking so much nonesens all the time. The reason is , because unfortunately there are no alternatives.

Hip implants do not exist. Buttocks implants never make much of a change
or shift, or end up looking like lumps. No excercise will give you hips. You can do squats, lunges, and weights to maybe lift your butt and tone it-
but for a genetic male you will usually end up with a mans looking ass
then a female shape.

Some people have good genes and have nice body shapes already. That of course is the case with very, very few transsexuals. The fact is there are no options, surgically or medically, for a transsexual to obtain a female shape besides silcone injections.

This is what lures a lot of girls to make very unwise decisions about their bodies. This is what lures alot of quacks to take advantage of so many girls. Because there are no options for the body else where.

Places silcione should never be injected are the breasts and below the knee. That is why you see girls with elapahnt ankles sometimes or in the chest a syndrome called breadloafing- which can also occur with implants- in which the breast join and it looks like one boob.

People ask me all the time about injections and where they can get it done. I can only tell them about my experiences with silicone , which all have been very positive. I think any transsexual who is considering doing this, should look at all of her options, and make the right decision for her, and do as much research as I did. I do not advocate it, it is not right for everyone, but I know many girls who are extrmely happy with their artificial bodies.

So instead of preaching from your pulpit, REV. RICHTER- you are unqualified to give anyone first hand accounts about injected silicone as you have none. You choose to pound all the negative stories and bad results with your anti silicone rhetoric, and choose to ignore all those who have had positive results.

And furthermore, your assment about what I will look at at 50 you are absolutely incorrect. I have no silcione in my lower legs for it to travel to my ankles.
Yes my ass will droop, its called gravity. All body parts will droop. Then I will have a body lift if need be done and look 30 again.

PS. The gym really helps keeopng the ass muscles firm and that silicone in place.

Vicki Richter
06-27-2005, 02:13 AM
Look... all I am saying is it would be much more beneficial for someone like you to weigh in on more of the negative aspects of it. Now lets see about agreeing on the facts:

Silicone can be removed by scraping, if at all. Most surgeons want nothing to do with it and removing it once in there can leave girls disfigured.

Silicone migrates. If you do it, it "could" end up in your ankles, and more than likely will. Seanchai has affirmed this in the past. Just because they use better grade silicone here, it has nothing to do with the gravitational effects. The brazillian girls obviously know what they are doing with their initial silicone placement. The fact that they end up with "elephant feet" as it was described suggests that this is inevitable.

Silicone kills people. I would guess that perhaps dozens to hundreds of girls have died from these injections.

You continually evangelize the safe use of it or NYCe wouldn't have suggested his misinformation that it's not all bad. Silicone can have awesome short term benefits, but nobody should be suggesting it is safe or a good long term cosmetic alternative.

ABSOLUTE SHADE
06-27-2005, 02:27 AM
It also depends on the person you go to.....

I can't believe half these girls let other trannies or fags pump them.

These people are not licensed or trained on any MEDICAL aspect.

But alot of trannies are NOT patient and these people will give them the body and face they want FAST.

There is only good person I know of and she is know as The FACEMAKER

No names needed.

AllanahStarrNYC
06-27-2005, 02:30 AM
silicone kills people? where did u read that.

darling, much like people during surgery die from anesthesia not the surgery-people do not die from the silcone. they die how it is administered.

when someone sticks a needle into the body, and pumps away, without first retracting and see if any blood comes goes into the syringe (the sign that u have hit an artery or vain) then yes there is chance u might die because it can directly into the blood system leading it to the lungs and the heart.

if that happened to everyone then i should be dead by now because i have been pumped int he body 25 times. and so shoudl the thousands of transsexuals who around the world who are walking around with this.

i have seen girls with those ankles in person, i have seen alot of bad stuff.

again, doing this is the only choice i had to make my body look the way i wanted it. i know the risks, i assesed the gains and made my decisions-thus i am happy with them.

that is what everyone should do who is consedering this.

spectator
06-27-2005, 02:47 AM
I think Everything was very clearly stated by Alanah she is speaking based on experience, and if she has had a good experince then she should have the right to talk about it . She is not telling anyone to do it she is stating things as they are. Vicki stop being a fire starter as usual talking out of your ass.

Vicki Richter
06-27-2005, 03:34 AM
I think Everything was very clearly stated by Alanah she is speaking based on experience, and if she has had a good experince then she should have the right to talk about it . She is not telling anyone to do it she is stating things as they are. Vicki stop being a fire starter as usual talking out of your ass.

You are such a kiss ass. OMG. Spec you remind me of the kid in school who keeps running to the teacher and saying, "Sally is picking on Susan again!" Even when's she's wrong she's right. Right?

She is stating things IN OPINION not as they are. I am stating things IN OPINION perhaps not as they are. If I go around saying, "hey crack isn't bad, I've done it 1000 times and I am not dead yet", I am condoning it's use... there are people who might be influenced to try it because someone they respected said, "It's OK". Dr. Allanah also says HIV doesn't cause AIDS and a whole variety of other misinformation. Of course there are a gazillion qualified people who disagree with her. For all we know, those girls that died came on Hung Angels and read what Allanah said.

What part about elephant feet did you not understand Mr. "She is stating things as they are"?

In summary, Doctor Vicki says, "crack don't smoke itself".

tsluver247
06-27-2005, 04:22 AM
Generally speaking, I wish more posters would be respectful. I am not trying to say anyone is disrespectful in general. If you state your opinions or debate an issue, please be respectful towards others.

There are a lot of posters with a very diverse backgrounds, which is why I like this board. I can learn a lot from people that are different from me. But I am really starting to get sick of all the squibbling and the lack of respect on someone else's opinions. I can understand how some posts maybe misinterpretted, since you normally can not notice someone's body langauge or tone of voice on the internet. Personally, I believe that if one is confident in oneself, then other people's opinion do not matter (unless they are positive :wink: ). I would rather make love than war. :wink:

As for the topic, anyone that plans to do anything with their body is their decision. I believe, if someone is going to make a decision that is going to be permanent as silicone injections, they should make an informed decision. As in any decision you make you should define your goal or objective, assembly relevant data (unbias, in this case medical data), identify feasible alternatives, select the criterion for judging which is the best alternative, construct the interrelationships between the objective, alternatives, data, and the criterion, predict the likely outcomes for each alternative (in this case, I would figure out the pros and cons of each alternative and the likely outcomes of the pros and cons), and choice the best alternative to achieve your goal or objectitve. Remember doing nothing is also an alternative. Can you tell a make decisions for a living? :wink:

As a big TS porn fan, I love watching both Vicki and Allanah on the big scene. I often find your posts on this board interesting to read. I also love the photos from Allanah's parties. Please don't make you discipline you both, I may enjoy it. :twisted:

spectator
06-27-2005, 05:13 AM
vicky im not a mr im a ts. So relax before i put a mirror to your face and you can see how much reality bites when you see your refelction.
I never kissed no ones ass, Allanah simply stated how she reacted to it and she has a right to. I have silicone in my body to and i have not had a bad reaction to it. Yes i have met people that have had horrible reactions.
Most of those people went to some oen they didnt know, in some apartment getting who knows what put in them. So yes i will agree with Allanah and say medical grade silicone properly done can have a wonderful result i know many girls that went where i went and they have no problems and gorgeous female bodies not like the example posted on here i could name a fewthat have great bodies:
natassia dreams, madison also know as nicole adams, jasmi international etc.
these are girls who have bodies that are not exaggerated yet have capture a female form.
And have no problems.
Maybe the girls you have met made bad choices perhaps instead of saying it is bad we should be speaking about how to get it the correct way after all if you want to look like a female you must have a female body. being thin with big boobs is not being female like its being a man with breast.

Vicki Richter
06-27-2005, 06:13 AM
Gee great. Another anonymous NYC girl. Why do all you girls post anonymously? What are you afraid of? I don't really get it. Is it because you are going to flame the girls or guys and don't want people to know who you are? That seems like a pretty standard modus opperendi for y'all. You know there are like 10,000,000+ people in New York City. Do you really think the 300 New York guys (or whatever post here) are really going to affect your livelihood if they find out who you are?

Please, by all means, put a mirror to my face. I enjoy a challenge.

Vicki

AllanahStarrNYC
06-27-2005, 06:18 AM
Vicki- your stateme about the misinformationa bout what I believe is utter nonsense. Yoyr assumptions are getting the best of you. As you are an intelligence person, but I see hat your intelligence is bound to your beliefs and not open to the ideas and experiences of others.

I have never stated that I did not believe that hiv iS dot cause aids, i have brought different view points into light ont his boards about the hypothesis that are rarely heard. With vlid scientiffic data and quotes from
doctors and scientist.

The problem with you is that you can not stand to read someone who makes a valid point on a subject you disagree on. Your intelligence is so narrowed to what you think is to be true, that you can accept that you might be incorrect.

AGAIN, my results have been good, I AM PLEASED, that does not make me the poster girl for silicone injection advocacy.

AGAIN, I have stated the positive and both negative things I have seen.

You are SO entrenched in some of the misinformation you believe, that you cant not even acknowledge that alot of people have had good results.

You have not chosen to augment your body with silicone and are happy with those results and hip, hip, hooray for you.

THAT WAS NOT A CHOICE FOR ME. SO STOP TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING WITH MY BODY.

NYCe
06-27-2005, 06:19 AM
You know there are like 10,000,000+ people in New York City. Do you really think the 300 New York guys (or whatever post here) are really going to affect your livelihood if they find out who you are?


Please tell me you're joking. Guy on here get shit for what they've posted, and vice versa.

joyboy123
06-27-2005, 06:56 AM
Generally speaking, I wish more posters would be respectful. I am not trying to say anyone is disrespectful in general. If you state your opinions or debate an issue, please be respectful towards others.

There are a lot of posters with a very diverse backgrounds, which is why I like this board. I can learn a lot from people that are different from me. But I am really starting to get sick of all the squibbling and the lack of respect on someone else's opinions. I can understand how some posts maybe misinterpretted, since you normally can not notice someone's body langauge or tone of voice on the internet. Personally, I believe that if one is confident in oneself, then other people's opinion do not matter (unless they are positive :wink: ). I would rather make love than war. :wink:

As for the topic, anyone that plans to do anything with their body is their decision. I believe, if someone is going to make a decision that is going to be permanent as silicone injections, they should make an informed decision. As in any decision you make you should define your goal or objective, assembly relevant data (unbias, in this case medical data), identify feasible alternatives, select the criterion for judging which is the best alternative, construct the interrelationships between the objective, alternatives, data, and the criterion, predict the likely outcomes for each alternative (in this case, I would figure out the pros and cons of each alternative and the likely outcomes of the pros and cons), and choice the best alternative to achieve your goal or objectitve. Remember doing nothing is also an alternative. Can you tell a make decisions for a living? :wink:

As a big TS porn fan, I love watching both Vicki and Allanah on the big scene. I often find your posts on this board interesting to read. I also love the photos from Allanah's parties. Please don't make you discipline you both, I may enjoy it. :twisted:

Vicki and Allanah have a history of squabbling and its actually quite a bit of fun since they both back up their opinions with experience and intelligence.
Their arguments/debates provide a lot of information about the lifestyle.

I could be wrong but I think they enjoy arguing quite a bit and I always get a sense that there is mutual respect between the two.

tsluver247
06-27-2005, 07:49 AM
Vicki and Allanah have a history of squabbling and its actually quite a bit of fun since they both back up their opinions with experience and intelligence.
Their arguments/debates provide a lot of information about the lifestyle.

I could be wrong but I think they enjoy arguing quite a bit and I always get a sense that there is mutual respect between the two.

It is not just Vicki and Allanah that I have read squabbling. There are a great deal of posters that I have seen that disrespect other people's opinions or view points. I can understand how other people have different viewpoints. I am just asking people to be more civil in their arguments.

From my view point, it seems that the East Coast / West Coast thing is not just in making rap records. :wink: I am glad I am neutral. :wink:

Vicki Richter
06-27-2005, 09:53 AM
You know there are like 10,000,000+ people in New York City. Do you really think the 300 New York guys (or whatever post here) are really going to affect your livelihood if they find out who you are?


Please tell me you're joking. Guy on here get shit for what they've posted, and vice versa.

Yeah but how bad is it? I just don't know that if a girl says her clients are assholes on this board, would it affect her livelihood? I can't tell if you are disagreeing with me.

Vicki Richter
06-27-2005, 09:59 AM
You are SO entrenched in some of the misinformation you believe, that you cant not even acknowledge that alot of people have had good results.

You have not chosen to augment your body with silicone and are happy with those results and hip, hip, hooray for you.

THAT WAS NOT A CHOICE FOR ME. SO STOP TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING WITH MY BODY.

Damn girl. Pretty soon you'll be burning your bras with talk like that.

I am not saying it doesn't look good. It looks amazing. I am talking about long term appearance...as well as short term health risks. I would just hate to see girls make a mistake when they are young just to fit into the ideal mold. This discussion reminds me of post-op TS's who claim they can orgasm.

GroobySteven
06-27-2005, 11:21 AM
Some post-op girls can orgasm. It's not only medical fact but I've met enough who can. Everything physically is there to let them orgasm.
seanchai

joyboy123
06-27-2005, 02:37 PM
Vicki and Allanah have a history of squabbling and its actually quite a bit of fun since they both back up their opinions with experience and intelligence.
Their arguments/debates provide a lot of information about the lifestyle.

I could be wrong but I think they enjoy arguing quite a bit and I always get a sense that there is mutual respect between the two.

It is not just Vicki and Allanah that I have read squabbling. There are a great deal of posters that I have seen that disrespect other people's opinions or view points. I can understand how other people have different viewpoints. I am just asking people to be more civil in their arguments.

From my view point, it seems that the East Coast / West Coast thing is not just in making rap records. :wink: I am glad I am neutral. :wink:

Yeah, its funny you mention that "East Coast / West Coast" thing. I do agree with you about some of the nastiness that gets posted here, it really isn't necessary.

tslvrnyc
06-27-2005, 04:38 PM
When Allanah says it's her choice what she wants to do with her body, I can't but help think if my tax dollars are going to end up paying for medicaid for a broke 60 year old tranny with silicone-induced elephantiasis.

Felicia Katt
06-28-2005, 02:41 AM
what a hateful thing to say! Alanah is probably paying more in taxes now to a system that gives someone like you, who probably pays less, way more in benefits than she will ever receive.

Felicia

shemalejunky
06-28-2005, 03:33 AM
Just reading through this thread only affirms my thoughts that Vicki is a hateful hag who doesn't have much going for her - besides her jealousy of Allanah - and should just shut the hell up. She likes to stir it up with her lack of intelligence or decorum. Poor old hag.

Felicia Katt
06-28-2005, 04:03 AM
Another hateful post. Did you add one word to the debate? Offer one fact? Or even an opinion? No. you just went straight to personal insults. Talk about lacking decorum.

Felicia

hondarobot
06-28-2005, 04:08 AM
Oh for fucks sake shemalejunky, this isn't your first day in the playground.

Vicki and Allanah like to break the dishes and scream at each other from time to time. It's a lot of fun.

Calling someone a "hag" is a little bit rude, don't ya think?

Vicki Richter
06-28-2005, 04:25 AM
Just reading through this thread only affirms my thoughts that Vicki is a hateful hag who doesn't have much going for her - besides her jealousy of Allanah - and should just shut the hell up. She likes to stir it up with her lack of intelligence or decorum. Poor old hag.

I love these. You can't knock someone on top with insults like this babe...

You really blew it with the lack of intelligence comment. That REALLY makes you look ignorant. I think Allanah just creates ID's to agree with herself.

Vicki "hag" Richter

<cackle> "my pretties!!!!"

Felicia Katt
06-28-2005, 04:33 AM
and your little dog too!

well, not so little, actually!!!

meow

Felicia

Vicki Richter
06-28-2005, 04:39 AM
I, of course, have my standard Jaded Video review followup which I always like to pull out of my back pocket for just these situations.

Never mistake a b1tcH for a witch.

<cackle> "now give me those slippers!"

Ecstatic
06-28-2005, 04:44 AM
Can't we play nice "in the playground" as Honda puts it? I hate it when debate (where all sides should be heard whether you agree with their position or not) devolves into insult and personal attack (except when Vicki and Allanah go at one another: then it's stay out of the way and watch the fur fly from the sidelines).

hondarobot
06-28-2005, 04:45 AM
Good grief, I never did get a chance to take my nap and I'm still hung over.

I'm going to bed.

:wink:

bustytransmelb
06-28-2005, 09:56 AM
i have had silicone injections in my cheeks lips hips and bum and have experienced no side effects

GroobySteven
06-28-2005, 09:59 AM
No side affects? What are those antenaes growing out of your bonce?
:wink:
seanchai

shemalejunky
06-29-2005, 02:34 AM
ha! nice avatar Vicki, now you really look like a hag....lol

Felicia Katt
06-29-2005, 02:37 AM
ha! nice avatar Vicki,

you are just like your avatar. empty and unnoticed

Felicia

hondarobot
06-29-2005, 02:42 AM
That was a good one! It might not require a "meow" by the Bylaws Of Quiping, but it was still pretty damn funny.

:)

fgbz99
06-29-2005, 03:25 AM
What elephant feet?

Vicki Richter
06-29-2005, 03:32 AM
ha! nice avatar Vicki, now you really look like a hag....lol


Thank you! <cackle>

http://jadedvideo.com/review-70316.shtm

tslvrnyc
06-29-2005, 03:54 AM
what a hateful thing to say! Alanah is probably paying more in taxes now to a system that gives someone like you, who probably pays less, way more in benefits than she will ever receive.

Felicia

Lets see a scan of a W2. if it's true, i'll STFU. Anyways, my point wasn't directed toward Allanah, but less known trannies who are probably less business savvy.

partlycloudy
06-29-2005, 03:55 AM
What elephant feet?

http://img274.echo.cx/img274/4310/11194722843726yt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Felicia Katt
06-29-2005, 05:14 AM
Anyways, my point wasn't directed toward Allanah, but less known trannies who are probably less business savvy.


When Allanah says it's her choice what she wants to do with her body, I can't but help think if my tax dollars are going to end up paying for medicaid for a broke 60 year old tranny with silicone-induced elephantiasis.

Where was your point directed?

You missed my point entirely. As a straight married man, you will get thousands of dollars in State and Federal benefits that are denied to almost all transsexuals. You get to order your social, legal and financial affairs with a simple marriage certificate, whereas a transsexual and her partner will need to spend countless dollars on powers of attorney, living wills, and other documents to try to achieve parity. You will never be fired, barred from a club or excommunicated from a church simply because of who you are.

You are free to smoke and drink, overeat, not exercise, do drugs, partake in extreme sports, ride motorcycles without a helmet, drive your classic car (the one without airbags) without wearing a seatbelt, and Medicare will take care you. Those things cost the health care system many millions of dollars. Yet you reserve your ire for a transsexual just trying to improve herself. And the ironic thing is that the care you are concerned about would be considered cosmetic and probably be excluded. But Viagra, even for convicted sex offenders would not be.

Felicia

Ecstatic
06-29-2005, 05:53 AM
Excellent points, Felicia. Even here in Massachusetts--the only state in the union to find same sex marriages legal and a constitutional right--things are very difficult for same sex couples. For instance, will state law allows same sex spouses to file income tax as a married couple (in fact, requires it, as either jointly or filing separately), federal law does not recognize their marriage and thus requires them to file separately. This creates a nearly endless confusion of paperwork and conflicting forms depending upon the couple's financial situation. And that's just a small part of the whole.

But then we know the system is inherently unfair. At least some states are taking measures to try to correct the issue. At least those of use involved in this community--at whatever level--should try to support our brethren and sistren (is that a word?) and not sow dissent where unity is needed.

geekmeat
07-04-2005, 09:35 PM
[quote=shemalejunky]ha! nice avatar Vicki, now you really look like a hag....lol


Thank you! <cackle>

http://jadedvideo.com/review-70316.shtm[/quote

Shady!
Your really being cunty lately vicki......is it because gay pride happened recently?
You are VERY entertaining!

tsluver247
07-05-2005, 01:09 AM
Some people need to stop picking fights and being more civil. Two wrongs do not make a right. It is one thing to debate on the topic and it is another to post a message to gang up on another poster. Certain people need to learn to be civil.

tsbrenda
08-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS /INFECTION

TsVanessa69
08-03-2010, 06:47 AM
Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS
Is that why you are a dysfuntional faggot!

tsbrenda
08-05-2010, 05:05 AM
tsvannessa is is well known that you are bitter cause you are disfigured and your T CELL COUNT IS LOW

Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS /INFECTION

SunshyneMonroe
08-05-2010, 05:25 AM
I have them in my hips and ass but mine as done by a DOC as far as i know its will be fine as long as its dont rite ...Now goin to some tranny basement in the ghetto is not a DOC ppl ...there is also up keep and these leggin things u have to wear for a while...But there is no other way...FAt trans>>goes away...but implants are shit most docs dont even do them cuz they move hip implants you can even get them in the us i seen some girl that had to push hers back up every once in a while......

tsbrenda
08-08-2010, 05:04 AM
tsvannessa is is well known that you are bitter cause you are disfigured and your T CELL COUNT IS LOW

Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS /INFECTION


BETTER/BEST FOR HIPS/CHEEKS/BUTT & BREAST


MY POST EXPLAINS BETTER OPTIONS
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=743066&postcount=113


http://www.betterbuttocks.com/photos_africanamerican.htm




for example look at the fat grafting here for breast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8MiKagmLBg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8MiKagmLBg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_cK-ddpnw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_cK-ddpnw)

MICRO FAT INJECTIONS
with current medicine, once fat is processed it stays
this is current medicine
its discussed in his FAQ's
http://www.betterbuttocks.com/betterbuttocks_microfatphotos.htm (http://www.betterbuttocks.com/betterbuttocks_microfatphotos.htm)

Brazilian Butt
Dr Matlock USING FAT
YouTube- Brazilian Butt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaPfaQbIlSQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioCrFD4hwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioCrFD4hwM)

you can have fat put in your cheeks, butt and hips est.
http://www.betterbuttocks.com/photos_africanamerican.htm



http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=213897&stc=1&d=1228448709



tsvannessa is is well known that you are bitter cause you are disfigured and your T CELL COUNT IS LOW

Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS /INFECTION

bte
08-08-2010, 07:42 AM
@Tsbrenda

Why did you reply to your own post and write the same thing that you said in your previous post? Why not just quote what you said before?

tsparisangelline
08-08-2010, 11:33 AM
this thread is a joke

LibertyHarkness
08-08-2010, 11:44 AM
paris when did u get back ? its been quiet :)

TsVanessa69
08-08-2010, 08:53 PM
tsvannessa is is well known that you are bitter cause you are disfigured and your T CELL COUNT IS LOW

Silicone causes granulomas basically lumps that are tumors


autoimmune disorders/macrophage activity


INFLAMMATORY NIDUS /INFECTION
Ts Vanessa is doing great!
Still the undesputed Body beautiful of Chicago.
My silicone is fine after 10 years, my fans, paying clients and promotoers are not complaining.
The only people with issues on me having silicone are jealous fags, HATERS.
This day and age, some persons who inject silicone do give you the pro's and con's of being injected with medical grade silicone and stand behind their work.
We as transexuals them make the decision as to how we want to proceed.

tsbrenda
08-08-2010, 10:44 PM
:loser:tsvanessa look:loser::hide-1: