WAR IN THE BALKANS!!!! (Let's look into our crystal balls)

[BrendaQG]

I'll bet that I am not the only one reading this board that notices the news from the Balkans these days. Muslim Kosovo declaring idependence... Christian Serbia looks like it will declare war any day now. Russia backs Serbia and is now a much stronger country than it was for the first Balkan war. The US backs Kosovo and is in a weaker position than for the first Balkan war.

What are the odds that we will not end up in WWIII before GWB is done with us? I'll put it at 100:1 He's just the kind of ideaologically driven person to press the button.

[guyone]

What's your point?

[BrendaQG]

The point is that if the current Kosovo situation plays out till the end....Russian and US/NATO soldiers will take aim at each other. How can that not be scarry.
I predict at least a limited war in the balkans. Hopefully that's all that happens.

[mimiplastique]

What's your point?


dude has no point ... he never has a point and never has anything anyone is interested in hearing ... :roll:

[guyone]

Putin would never be so brazen. There may be minor skirmishes because the Serbs feel that little plot of land is theirs, yet the world won't tolerate a large scale invasion. What would the Russians have to gain? Right now they're sitting on their own powder keg.

[chefmike]

What's your point?


dude has no point ... he never has a point and never has anything anyone is interested in hearing ... :roll:

And what do you have to contribute to this section?

That's what I thought.

Nothing.

Not a fucking thing except the personal drama that you keep trying to bring to this section, shenehney...but nobody here is interested in your drag queen BS.

Now get to steppin', you annoying skank bitch.

And maybe you should consider putting down the crack pipe for a while...

[Quinn]

Is this Mimi's way of telling us that she doesn't know what, let alone where, the Balkans are? :lol:

-Quinn

[BrendaQG]

@Quinn LOL exactly.

@guyone
I don't know. I don't know. Given the rhetoric that we are hearing it's gonna take some real high level negotiations and compromising to get out of this trouble without war. I have no faith in GW Bush to have control of the situation enough to prevent a war.

Another question is if their is war between NATO and Russia and it's allies would that mean that their would have to be all out thermonuclear warfare? I cannot see Russia's leadership wanting to destroy our civilization over Kosovo.

[El Nino]

The elitists love the wars.... They bankroll both sides and collect the subsequent interest for the duration. Plus it is just one small method to keep population a little bit at bay. Its all theater.

[chefmike]

The elitists love the wars.... They bankroll both sides and collect the subsequent interest for the duration. Plus it is just one small method to keep population a little bit at bay. Its all theater.

Those darned elitists! It all started with that evil SOB Milton Drysdale!

[BrendaQG]

@El Ninio

Talking war between Nuclear armed nations like us would be a real gamble. The best we could hope for is a limited engagement in southern europe. Worst case is all out warfare in Europe and the middle east. Russia, China, and most of the Islamic World, VS US EU and India. How much interest could the elite collect after Armageddon?

[q1a2z3]

Go Serbia! Always take the time to take out the muslem trash! You don't need to have a war, you just need to call an exterminator. Spray well they will try to come back if you don't kill them all.

[trish]

Somebody, buy some disinfectant. We've got some real slimy and disgusting q1a2z3 growing in the cracks of our forum. Time to clean it out.

[BrendaQG]

lol cosign.

[El Nino]

War = a euphimism for genocide. Nothing more, nothing less.

[thx1138]

Russia is hardly in a position to do much but grumble.

[Oli]

@El Ninio

Talking war between Nuclear armed nations like us would be a real gamble. The best we could hope for is a limited engagement in southern europe. Worst case is all out warfare in Europe and the middle east. Russia, China, and most of the Islamic World, VS US EU and India. How much interest could the elite collect after Armageddon?

Honestly, do you really believe this is 1914 all over again? Do you think the depleted Serbian army is going to take the 16,000 strong KFOR, backed by NATO?

How, pray tell, do the Russians, Chinese and Muslims coalesce into one protagonist?

Speculation is one thing, but your post more rightly belongs in a fairey tale.

[BrendaQG]

They will try if they think that they have Russia and it's resources behind them.

The USA has allot of enemies. I can easily see a president like Bush giving them an excuse to unite. The danger of a new Balkan war seems to have passed. But this issues is not going away.

[mimiplastique]

They will try if they think that they have Russia and it's resources behind them.

The USA has allot of enemies. I can easily see a president like Bush giving them an excuse to unite. The danger of a new Balkan war seems to have passed. But this issues is not going away.



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[Coroner]

Kosovo was always a part of Serbia but the Serbs are to blame for losing Kosovo. They were terrorizing the Albanians since the fifties when Aleksandar Rankovic became the ultimate police boss in former Yugoslavia. Tito didn´t know of his activities but when he finally discovered what Rankovic was doing, he´s put him under arrrest and Rankovic spent the rest of his life in his home.
The Serb hegemony inside Yugoslavia must have got promises from some Western countries to go on with their Great Serbia plan. It wouldn´t suprise me if those countries were the UK and France while Germany backed up the Croats. Their goal was to destroy what Tito built from the ashes because the Balkans are a region with high economical potential and strategically very important for the NATO. This is how "democratic governments" came to power, mostly former communists that turned into the ultimate warlords.
The unilateral proclamation of Kosovo´s independence is the Albanian revenge for Serb crimes. I´m against their independence because they sold themselves to the NATO for the little piece of land that historically doesn´t belong to them but all this is the result of Serb politics from the past 50 years. Russia isn´t backing the Serbs because they like them. The Russians are struggling because the NATO (America) is coming near to their borders.
Since I´m a Bosnian-born, I think that I know what I´m talking about. Former Yugoslavia was our chance to come together and let the history behind us until the fucking West screwed it up again. Tito was the best politician in the 20th century. He was the only communist leader that never recieved a bad word from American presidents or this cunt Margaret Thatcher.

[Quinn]

Kosovo was always a part of Serbia but the Serbs are to blame for losing Kosovo. They were terrorizing the Albanians since the fifties when Aleksandar Rankovic became the ultimate police boss in former Yugoslavia. Tito didn´t know of his activities but when he finally discovered what Rankovic was doing, he´s put him under arrrest and Rankovic spent the rest of his life in his home.
The Serb hegemony inside Yugoslavia must have got promises from some Western countries to go on with their Great Serbia plan. It wouldn´t suprise me if those countries were the UK and France while Germany backed up the Croats. Their goal was to destroy what Tito built from the ashes because the Balkans are a region with high economical potential and strategically very important for the NATO. This is how "democratic governments" came to power, mostly former communists that turned into the ultimate warlords.
The unilateral proclamation of Kosovo´s independence is the Albanian revenge for Serb crimes. I´m against their independence because they sold themselves to the NATO for the little piece of land that historically doesn´t belong to them but all this is the result of Serb politics from the past 50 years. Russia isn´t backing the Serbs because they like them. The Russians are struggling because the NATO (America) is coming near to their borders.
Since I´m a Bosnian-born, I think that I know what I´m talking about. Former Yugoslavia was our chance to come together and let the history behind us until the fucking West screwed it up again. Tito was the best politician in the 20th century. He was the only communist leader that never recieved a bad word from American presidents or this cunt Margaret Thatcher.

I'm against Kosovo's interdependence as well. I think Russian warnings about this coming full circle should be taken very seriously. Unfortunately, from a legal standpoint, we've now set precisely the precedent Russia needs to support independence movements by restive Russian populations in Moldova, Georgia, the Ukraine, and other states.

Furthermore, the above scenarios don't even take into account Bosnia's Serb population or Macedonia's Albanian population and the precedent this creates for their independence from their respective states (something Russia will likely encourage in Bosnia's case). My point: The West has been incredibly short-sighted in its support of such a dubious legal precedent in international law. This is an unmitigated disaster for an increasingly fissiparous Europe.

-Quinn

[Coroner]

Europe is once again divided. Europe couldn´t stop the genocide in Bosnia and it again doesn´t know what´s best for the own continent. Another struggle is Turkey: they had to give the Turks the promise to accept them in the EU because America pushed this idea. The USA need Turkey as a partner not Europe, so America used the destroyed and powerless Europe after WWII. Most countries in the EU don´t want Turkey to join because it means struggle. 5 millions Turks already live in the EU. It doesn´t make sense to me if Europe´s new borders will be close to Iran, Iraq, Syria and other deep Asian countries.