California exodus turns to stampede

[thx1138]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56876

[q1a2z3]

BRAVOLINGUS!!!

A great article explaining why taxes are silly.

Of course SB777 signed by Governor Clueless takes the cake. I plan to vacation in California and visit the public school system just to say "Mom" and "Dad."

[hippifried]

What a crock.

[thx1138]

I think I posted an article recently where California farmers had to go to Mexico to grow crops with the local help. Cheap Mexican labor had become scarece in California. The Governator's budget is mired deep in red ink. Will have to layoff thousands of workers to balance his budget.

[El Nino]

Hippifried....YOU ARE!

[hippifried]

THX,
More bullshit. Think about what you just said. A farm isn't a factory. You can't just pick it up & move to another location over labor or any other issue. No farmer is going to give up rich irrigated farmland because he has a hiring problem. All the cheap & ready labor in the world means nothing if you're trying to make something grow in the desert without any water.

[thx1138]

Why plant crops on farmland rich or not if there is NO labor available to harvest them? The crops wither on the ground. That makes NO sense whatsoever. Perhaps you could travel out to the San Fernando valley this summer and lend a hand. They're paying $ 20 an hour, I hear.

[q1a2z3]

LOL!!! If welfare was turned off in this country there would be lots of Americans who would love to pick crops. The America of the 1930s was the best.

My lil brown buddies south of the border need to:

1. Stay out of my country.
2. Depose their stupid dictator leaders.
3. Build a nationalist republic on good Christian ethic.
4. Build an economy that supports employees and businesses alike.
5. Outlaw communism.

[thx1138]

and what Mexico REALLY needs to do is STOP SENDING THEIR FUCKING OIL NORTH TO SUPPORT A BANKRUPT ECONOMY. :>)

[hippifried]

Why plant crops on farmland rich or not if there is NO labor available to harvest them? The crops wither on the ground. That makes NO sense whatsoever. Perhaps you could travel out to the San Fernando valley this summer and lend a hand. They're paying $ 20 an hour, I hear.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm in the Imperial Valley right now. This is where Caesar Chavez's birthday is a holiday. There's no labor shortage in agriculture, & farm labor hasn't been cheap in decades. The high intensity agribusiness in California is mostly subcontracted & unionized. Nobody's eking out a living with 40 acres & a mule out here. The farmer is sitting at his computer, cutting deals with the futures traders & deciding what crop is going in what field next. He hires the grower to make sure it happens. The grower hires the planters, the irrigators, the harvesters, the truckers & whatnot. They're all different contractors. They pay well because it's skilled trades. Nobody's digging sugar beets with a pitchfork or cutting hay with a scythe. Farming is mechanized. There was that whole 20th century thing that happened just a little while ago. The only reason a farmer can't find labor is because he's an asshole whose checks bounce, there's a strike against him, or he's just a cheapskate who refuses to pay what it's worth. There's plenty of hands available.

[thx1138]

Gov. Arnold is unhappy: http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=6888

[thx1138]

Yes, that is an interesting turn of events. I'll look for that article.

[thx1138]

@hippi; found it! Check this out: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N12635997.htm

[thx1138]

Maybe Reuters is a conspiracy site. Or perhaps they take news from other organizations without proper verification. I'll admit I don't know which applies here.

[Oli]

Or maybe it's just hyperbole using numbers that most Americans can't picture. 50,000 acres is about twice the size of the island of Manhattan or 77 square miles. That area represents .001% of the land in Mexico.

Now compare that number with the 1528 square miles of farmland in Merced County alone, 1 of 18 counties in the Central Valley.

The author is playing on the stupidity of the majority of readers who have no idea how big an acre, let alone a hectare, is.

[thx1138]

You're missing the point. Here in the land of the brave and home of the free American citizens feel compelled to go around existing laws by emigrating? sounds like the Puritans. Anyway this 1% of land may become a larger percentage in the near future as food shortages loom.

[hippifried]

You're missing the point. Here in the land of the brave and home of the free American citizens feel compelled to go around existing laws by emigrating? sounds like the Puritans. Anyway this 1% of land may become a larger percentage in the near future as food shortages loom.
Again: What the hell are you talking about?

Nobody's emigrating. They're just doing business across the border. The entire lower Colorado River Valley & delta, wherever feasible, is under cultivation. That means the Mexican side too.

You have to understand the dynamics of the border. Before I came here, I was also under the mistaken impression that Mexicali was some grouping of shacks around the local cantina along a dirt road. Oops! The reality is that Mexicali is an industrial city with nearly 2 million people. By contrast, the entire Imperial Valley has less than 200,000. (The San Joaquin valley is a couple hundred miles northwest of here by the way.) Thousands of people cross the border between Mexico & the US every day. Both ways. The ports of entry have express lanes for the daily commuters. Calexico's in the process of automating their's like has San Ysidro, El Paso, & Laredo. There's all kinds of cross-border business going on. The idea that American farmers are abandoning the most productive land in the world over labor issues is just silly.

[thx1138]

Well why do they have to go to Mexico to grow crops? Are you saying there's no more land available for cultivation? I'm sure there's more north of the border. Why do Mexicans have to import American farmers when they have plenty of their own having been pushed back across the border?

[hippifried]

Well why do they have to go to Mexico to grow crops? Are you saying there's no more land available for cultivation? I'm sure there's more north of the border. Why do Mexicans have to import American farmers when they have plenty of their own having been pushed back across the border?
You make it sound like this is some major deal, & it isn't. People make longer commutes than this to go to work every day in every major city. Parts of Mexico have always been part of the irrigation system here. The All American Canal is a mile or less from the border. Before they built it in the '30s & '40s, the water came via the Alamo river channel that's mostly in Mexico & cuts back up through Mexicali/Calexico & flows to the Salton Sea. It's still in use & irrigates farms from the lower Colorado to Mexicali. The All American, of course, is the largest irrigation canal in the world, feeding over 1400 miles of canals & another 1100 miles of pipelines. What's left of the river after diversion at the Imperial Dam, irrigates the areas of Yuma down through San Luis/San Luis Rio Colorado on the east side. The border doesn't mean jack shit. Imperial Valley is 75% to 80% hispanic. The default spoken language is "Spanglish". The original irrigation system was put in by Swiss immigrants & Chinese labor. Nobody knows who's who as far as citizenship goes, or cares. Mexicali has over 10 times as many people as the entire Imperial Valley. Lots of trilingual Chinese too. Shitloads of them cross the border every day, to come up here & shop at the mall or the Walmart. There's daily commuters clogging up the port of entry to get to & from work, both ways. Nobody's being "pushed back across the border", from either side. You have a stereotypical view of what's going on down here.

[q1a2z3]

What's my oil doing under their soil?




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