View Full Version : What is he capable of? (A peek inside the mind of GWB)
thx1138
01-12-2008, 12:31 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011008A.shtml
The Presidential Psychology at the End of Days
By John P Briggs, M.D. and JP Briggs II, Ph.D. :cry:
Odelay
01-14-2008, 04:47 AM
I hate George W Bush. Campaigned hard for both Gore and Kerry, even though I didn't like the latter all that much. Gave money to both challengers too. I think my credentials as a Bush hater are intact.
However, there are two things that cause me to be very skeptical of the piece you quote.
First, this is an armchair psychological profile. I've heard a real psychologist do an in depth profile on Bush on NPR, but he repeated over and over about the weaknesses of his analysis. Basically, only a pscyhotherapist who had real therapy sessions with Bush is qualified to give a true professional opinion. Any other opinion rendered, even by the most advanced experts in the field, are based in large part on guess work.
Second, Truthout is just not a very reliable website. They post stuff that goes far beyond pushing the envelope. Any liberal nutcase who can build a circumstantial case around some conspiracy or anti-right-wing story, and can write with reasonable spelling and grammar, can get published on Truthout. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that sites like Truthout exist. Someone needs to push the envelope from the Left. Truthout stories can form the foundation of real stories if real journalists pick out the facts and approach a re-write of the story from a real-facts basis.
I don't put anything past Bush and Cheney. Could they attempt to suspend elections through a manufactured crisis? Absolutely! Will they? Doubtful. If they do then what happens? I'm guessing revolution. The voters in the U.S. have disappointed me greatly in recent times, but I refuse to believe that 300 million Americans are going to sit idly by and watch the Next American Idol while their President and Veep stage a military coup.
hippifried
01-14-2008, 10:05 AM
there are two things that cause me to be very skeptical of the piece you quote.
Nothing personal THX, but the list is almost endless of the things that cause me to be skeptical of most of the pieces you quote.
I think he's tunnel-visioned & incompetent, but I don't hate the President. He's actually been a boon to the liberal cause. Being liberal is cool again because the toons who rant about us are seen as the lunatic fringe they are again. There's always an upside. You just have to be patient while your competition in the ideological debate shoots themselves in the foot. The challenge now is making sure the democrats don't turn into a bunch of ideologues that can rearm the republicans, now that the boll weevils have changed affiliation.
bkkldby
01-14-2008, 12:20 PM
:soapbox
there are so many bad and erroneous ideas that come from bush and his ilk that each one alone should send people running for cover.
i will site only one: what the f*ck is intelligent about intelligent design? (unless of course we are referring to SRS? :D :D )
i have nothing against people's beliefs, we all have them, but when the leader of a once great nation expresses these kinds of ideas and uses them to formulate his agenda ... it is the end of days.
and i do not mean in the Biblical sense either.
it is the end of the world as we knew it.
anyone who buys into this has simply got their head up their *ss and the rest of what they say is meaningless.
thx1138
01-14-2008, 03:16 PM
@Odelay: can you cite any psychologist who would disagree/critique with Briggs (both) analyses? http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011807J.shtml & http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020707R.shtml . One thing's for sure: I've seen bush blink and grimace a lot at press conferences. Before Bush have you ever heard a president utter something like: "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."? His smirk is world famous. Clearly he's missing a few marbles.
thx1138
01-14-2008, 07:56 PM
Cocooning
If you think people are less friendly now than they used to be, you're not along. A California reader sends this:
"hi George, I seem to notice, when out in public, that people in banks, medical facilities, grocery markets and other places where strangers interact, there is a kind of general, awkward suspicion. there often seems to be an unfriendly feeling, almost of hostility, sometimes. the same could be said of my neighborhood, people in gas stations and local restaurants.
I'm no paranoiac, but just keeping to myself, and avoiding voicing (non-mainstream) opinions seems to work best these days. there seems to be a shortage of good conversationalists, with informed, jovial, interesting things to say. nowadays, the people I encounter seem to be grimly focused and preoccupied. I wish them well..."
Well, I have really bad news for you. The country is falling apart at the center - and we're being cleaved (or cleaving ourselves) into two camps of folks. Those who see what is going on and those who are blinded to any subtle changes in their environment and as those become more pronounced, they take on a role of active denial.
In the process, they become more and more stressed. I expect that what you're seeing in a lot more 'fear and loathing' out there.
El Nino
01-15-2008, 08:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxEiOrqNHHs
thx1138
01-15-2008, 03:17 PM
another view: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aQ1xB6FBz1dc&refer=home
thx1138
01-15-2008, 03:25 PM
@ el nino: yes, I knew about. As the economy breaks down and the discontent of the masses grows to the point of insurrection congress prepared the legislation legalizing tough, repressive measures. Thousands who are thought to be a danger will be rounded up and interned in concentration camps where they will mysteriously "disappear".
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