Log in

View Full Version : The Cause of Homosexuality



poleskr
12-11-2007, 04:55 AM
I was browsing this website of an alternative physician and found this article. It's rather intriguing and was wondering if those of you on this forum who identify as homosexual agree with what the author says is the cause of homosexuality...i.e. the child not being able to bond with thier father during their critical early years of development (up until the age of 3 or 4)? Let me know your responses and if you agree or disagree with this theory. Here's the article:


What Causes Male Homosexuality?

In the psychoanalytic literature, male homosexuality has long been understood to be a reflection of gender-identity deficit. But because of society’s bombardment with a the propaganda of “Political Correctness” a concept developed and propagated by the Jews and the Jewish owned media (Newspapers, Television, magazines, and now – increasingly – radio) for sinister aims, the psychiatric profession has bowed to the Politics of the issue and has removed “Homosexuality” from the Psychiatric Disorder list and now discourages any treatment to change that behavior, even for those who WANT to change.

“Homosexualtiy is a developmental problem that is almost always the result of problems in family relations, particularly between father and son. As a result of failure with father, the boy does not fully internalize male gender identity, and develops homosexually. This is the most commonly seen clinical model. . .

“In the course of the child’s life, every significant developmental lesson has its critical period of receptivity. These periods of heightened awareness appear to have a biological basis. . . Receptivity to gender identity also has a critical period, after which the lesson will not be easily learned. Most researchers agree that the critical period for gender identification occurs before the third year (Greenacre 1957, Kohlberg 1966, LaTorre 1979, Moberly 1983, Money and Ehrhardt 1972, Socarides 1968, Stoller 1968). Within that period, the time of greatest receptivity appears to be the second half of the second year.”

“The child has some sense of the father from the very early months (Loewald 1951m Nagler et al, 1975), in fact, perhaps as early as 4 months of age (Abelin 1975). By 18 months he can differentiate pictures of boys and girls, men and women (LaTorre 1979). On a social level, he himself is increasingly being treated as a male. . . He gradually begins to view father as a self-like object. Now open and receptive to maleness, he will ‘exhibit a special interest in his father; he would like to grow like him and be like him. . .’ (Freud 1921, p 105)

“The boy does not yet understand that his emerging interest in father comes from a primal affinity based in their shared masculinity. Nor does he realize that father is the embodiment of what he himself is destined to be. Yet somehow there is a familiarity and a charismatic power.

“Now with the boy’s emerging sense of being like father, a dependency arises. He desires to be received and accepted by his father, and that fragile emerging masculine identity, receiving its only impetus from instinct, must be reflected in their relationship.

“Father needs to mirror and affirm the boy’s maleness. . . the boy seeks to take in what is exciting, fun, and energizing about his father. There is a freedom and power to outgrowing mother – and this power is personified by the father.

“If father is warm and receptive, the boy will be encouraged to dis-identify from the feminine and enter into the masculine sphere. He will then become masculine-identified and most probably heterosexual.” Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality, J. Nicolosi, Ph.D., p 25-28

“There is clear evidence that boys with absent fathers are capable of heterosexual adjustment if they have not experienced emotional rejection from a significant male figure. . .For the primary cause of homosexuality is not the absence of a father figure, but the boy’s defensive detachment against male rejection. . . Every male has a healthy need for intimacy with other males. This desire emerges in early childhood and is satisfied first with the father, then later with male peers. When this drive is frustrated, homosexual attraction emerges as a ‘reparative striving’ (Moberly 1983, p ix). Ibid p 34.

“Homosexuality is an alienation from males – in infancy from father, and in later life from male peers (because he is “different”). By eroticizing what he feels disenfranchised from, the homosexual man is still seeking this initiation into manhood through other males.” Ibid p 42

In one study of homosexual subjects who were NOT in psychotherapy, these subjects were more likely to perceive fathers as critical, cold, impatient, and detached. (Apperson and McAdoo – 1968, Journal of Abnormal Psychology 73:201-206)

In a study of forty homosexual males, Brown reports not a single case in which a homosexual had an affectionate relationship with his father. (1963 – Journal of the Louisiana State Medical Society 115:304-311)

Rosen says, “For males, the presence of a good loving father during development is probably the best proof against homosexual development. . . I can think of no case (of homosexuality). . . where such a father has been present

In the early childhood years of development (1988- Hope for Homosexuals, et.

P. Fagan, pp 28-45. Washington, DC: Free Congress Research and Education Foundation p 21).

Socarides says, “Homosexuals consistently describe the father either as a weak, shadowy and distant figure or an angry, cold and brutalizing one” (1976 Male and Female: Christian Approaches to Sexuality, ed. R. Barnhouse and J. Holmes, p 145, New York: Seabury Press).

And Bieber states: “We have come to the conclusion that a constructive, supportive, warmly related father precludes the possibility of a homosexual son” (Homosexuality: A Psychoanalytic Study of Male Homosexuals. New York: Basic Books, 1962 p 311).

In the majority of cases, male homosexuality is caused by a lack of bonding with the father, the father’s emotional and psychological “absence” because, even though present in the home, he spends very little time with his young son and does not “connect.”

A significant number of fathers leave the early rearing of the children, both girls and boys, to the mother. Only when the young boy is old enough, usually age 4 or 5 or older, to participate in things that the father enjoys – baseball, football, swimming, sporting events, fishing, hunting, etc., does the father get involved. Unfortunately, homosexuality is usually “set” by the age of 3-5 precisely because of the child’s lack of bonding with his father.

Interestingly, homosexuality seems rarely to occur if the father is not present because he has died or is not present because of illness or some other appropriate reason. The child understands that he has not been rejected. So this feeling of rejection by the child appears to be a necessary component, along with the physical, or emotional and psychological absence of the father.

In a small number of cases, homosexuality may be the result of an excessively over-protective and controlling mother combined with a father who either may be too weak to object or who really wants to “connect” with his son, but in the interest of maintaining peace in the family, takes the easier road and allows the mother to take control. The outcome is the same. There is a lack of bonding with the father, and the son becomes a homosexual.

In other cases, the child has normally bonded with the father but is, at a later date, sexually molested by a man, possibly a relative or family friend. The child has been violated and humiliated and no longer feels worthy or comfortable to be in the heterosexual community or he may feel that no woman will be attracted to him.. He has also been exposed to the thrill-seeking, “exciting,” no-holds-barred debauchery of the homosexual community – and becomes addicted.

lust4ts
12-11-2007, 05:12 AM
............................

hippifried
12-11-2007, 05:43 AM
What a crock of shit! All this psychobabble mumbo-jumbo sounds like something right out of NARTH.

Homosexuality is not some sort of psychological problem any more than being left handed. It's not a disease. It can't be "cured" with "therepy" because there's nothing to cure. It's just a trait. Get over it.

Quinn
12-11-2007, 05:45 AM
I always thought homosexuality was caused by people sleeping with members of the same sex.

-Quinn

trish
12-11-2007, 05:49 AM
actually it's something you catch from motel room bibles.

Beagle
12-11-2007, 05:52 AM
i just read this article today...not that i'm gay or anything...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071210094541.htm




In Fruit Flies, Homosexuality Is Biological But Not Hard-wired, Study Shows


ScienceDaily (Dec. 10, 2007) — While the biological basis for homosexuality remains a mystery, a team of neurobiologists reports they may have closed in on an answer -- by a nose.

The team led by University of Illinois at Chicago researcher David Featherstone has discovered that sexual orientation in fruit flies is controlled by a previously unknown regulator of synapse strength. Armed with this knowledge, the researchers found they were able to use either genetic manipulation or drugs to turn the flies' homosexual behavior on and off within hours.

Featherstone, associate professor of biological sciences at UIC, and his coworkers discovered a gene in fruit flies they called "genderblind," or GB. A mutation in GB turns flies bisexual.

Featherstone found the gene interesting initially because it has the unusual ability to transport the neurotransmitter glutamate out of glial cells -- cells that support and nourish nerve cells but do not fire like neurons do. Previous work from his laboratory showed that changing the amount of glutamate outside cells can change the strength of nerve cell junctions, or synapses, which play a key role in human and animal behavior.

But the GB gene became even more interesting when post-doctoral researcher Yael Grosjean noticed that all the GB mutant male flies were courting other males.

"It was very dramatic," said Featherstone. "The GB mutant males treated other males exactly the same way normal male flies would treat a female. They even attempted copulation."

Other genes that alter sexual orientation have been described, but most just control whether the brain develops as genetically male or female. It's still unknown why a male brain chooses to do male things and a female brain does female things. The discovery of GB provided an opportunity to understand why males choose to mate with females.

"Based on our previous work, we reasoned that GB mutants might show homosexual behavior because their glutamatergic synapses were altered in some way," said Featherstone. Specifically, the GB mutant synapses might be stronger.

"Homosexual courtship might be sort of an 'overreaction' to sexual stimuli," he explained.

To test this, he and his colleagues genetically altered synapse strength independent of GB, and also fed the flies drugs that can alter synapse strength. As predicted, they were able to turn fly homosexuality on and off -- and within hours.

"It was amazing. I never thought we'd be able to do that sort of thing, because sexual orientation is supposed to be hard-wired," he said. "This fundamentally changes how we think about this behavior."

Featherstone and his colleagues reasoned that adult fly brains have dual-track sensory circuits, one that triggers heterosexual behavior, the other homosexual. When GB suppresses glutamatergic synapses, the homosexual circuit is blocked.

Further work showed precisely how this happens -- without GB to suppress synapse strength, the flies no longer interpreted smells the same way.

"Pheromones are powerful sexual stimuli," Featherstone said. "As it turns out, the GB mutant flies were perceiving pheromones differently. Specifically, the GB mutant males were no longer recognizing male pheromones as a repulsive stimulus."

Featherstone says it may someday be possible to domesticate insects such as fruit flies and manipulate their sense of smell to turn them into useful pollinators rather than costly pests.

The research appeared on line December 10 in Nature Neuroscience, and is scheduled for print in the January issue.

Grosjean, now with the Center of Integrative Genomics in Lausanne, Switzerland, is the paper's first author. Along with Featherstone, authors include Hrvoje Augustin of UIC and Micheline Grillet and Jean-Francois Ferveur of the Université de Bourgogne in Dijon, France.

Adapted from materials provided by University of Illinois at Chicago.

Quinn
12-11-2007, 05:53 AM
Clearly, we're talking about particularly pernicous type of cootie.

-Quinn

lust4ts
12-11-2007, 05:55 AM
I always thought homosexuality was caused by people sleeping with members of the same sex.

-Quinn

Lol, no one is really gay anyway, only their boyfriends are!

Quinn
12-11-2007, 06:00 AM
I always thought homosexuality was caused by people sleeping with members of the same sex.

-Quinn

Lol, no one is really gay anyway, only their boyfriends are!

:lol: It's only gay if you make eye contact.

-Quinn

DMCC
12-11-2007, 06:12 AM
In the first paragraph I got a pretty good idea of who wrote this article when he wrote "propagated by the Jews and the Jewish owned media". It's a bullshit article and it's pretty hard to fix what isn't wrong.

Also paragraphs like
"In a study of forty homosexual males, Brown reports not a single case in which a homosexual had an affectionate relationship with his father. (1963 – Journal of the Louisiana State Medical Society 115:304-311)"

1. 40 Homosexuals isn't a large number for a study ... of anything really and
2. Even if it were a large enough sample, it's a causality argument that's hard to prove. Are they gay first and that lead to a strained relationship with their non-accepting father or was it their bad relationship with their father that made them gay. Or do the two events have nothing to do with each other blah, blah.

Oh and almost all the studies they quote are from the 1960's.
Boo this man!

lust4ts
12-11-2007, 06:14 AM
I always thought homosexuality was caused by people sleeping with members of the same sex.

-Quinn

Lol, no one is really gay anyway, only their boyfriends are!

:lol: It's only gay if you make eye contact.

-Quinn

Yep. As long as you on keep biting that pillow and don't look back, you're as straight as can be :lol:

poleskr
12-11-2007, 06:55 AM
Alot of great response so far. I don't mean to spark any controversy just trying to use this open forum for discussion so that we can all come to a better understanding. Lately I've been watching and reading alot of material about a globalist elites agend on a new world order. I know its all conspiracy stuff but the more you look into this stuff the more some things start to make sense, or at the very least it makes one question what's really the truth. Is the government really telling the whole truth or do we as responsible citizens find out the truth for ourselves. Anyway to learn more about what I'm saying I would recommend everyone watch a free movie on google video called America: Freedom to Facism. Here's the link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5355374476580235299&q=freedom+to+fascism&total=997&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

The producer of this film bring up alot of very interesting points, cites them with court cases and alot of them are hard to ignore.

The website where I got the article on the cause of homosexuality had another post saying that the promotion of homosexuality is part of a globalist agenda on population control. Here are some interesting stats on that from the site:



Population Control

Lorraine Day, M.D.

The New World Order/Illuminati/Jewish Zionist cabal claims that the earth is over-populated and that the population must be reduced by whatever means necessary. These means include, but are not limited to:

Birth control – hormone pills (contributing to breast and uterine cancer), Intrauterine devices (causing serious damage to the uterus, sometimes resulting in hysterectomy and the inability to have children).

Abortion – including partial-birth abortion, which is nothing less than state-approved murder!

Infanticide – declaring that a baby is not a human being until it is 30 days old and thus can be killed anytime up until 30 days after birth.

Euthanasia – deliberate killing of the elderly, the terminally ill, and the mentally ill.

Promotion of homosexuality – homosexuals don’t have children (except in rare instances by artificial insemination of women).

Disease pandemics, such as AIDS, SARS, “Bird Flu”, Small pox, Anthrax, etc., purposely developed in government laboratories.

Vaccinations – to purposely infect the population with these deadly diseases.

Famines by design – deliberately contrived by the government: terminator seeds, grocery store cards, FMOs (Food Management Organizations)*

Hospice – to make sure the terminally ill actually die! Hospice is not about getting people well!

Weather Modification/Control – deliberate production of droughts and floods in food-growing areas.

Drug medications that kill – deadly Chemotherapy and Radiation prescribed by doctors for cancer. All drugs have harmful side-effects that destroy the immune system.

Wars – all over the world. Killing of our U.S. troops by vaccinations, depleted uranium, and by the war itself.

Fluoridation of water, toothpaste, (mass medication of the public) and fluoride compounds in medications. Fluoride is a poison. It causes lethargy, brain dysfunction, and contributes to a decreased sperm count in males, thus causing male infertility.

Street Drugs – The U.S. government, via the CIA, brings in street drugs from Asia and South America. Then the mafia distributes them to be sold to the youth of America to purposely addict them by the hundreds of thousands.

Escalation of “Routine” Diseases – heart disease, stroke, cancer, Parkinson’s, etc. by promotion of Fast food, aspartame (Nutrasweet), MSG, and other harmful substances in food. This leads to heart disease, cancer, brain tumors, blindness, and many other serious diseases.

These are just some of the ways that the American government is, right now, purposely killing Americans. It is a fact that throughout history, more people have been killed by the leaders of their own country than have been killed by war from outside invaders, according to R. J. Rummel, author of Death By Government.

In truth, the earth is NOT over-populated. Every person in the world, all 6 billion of them, can fit into the state of Texas, with two to a house on a lot size 25 ft by 100 ft, with enough land in the back to grow their own food.


This all seems pretty far fetched but like I said the more you look into this stuff for yourself and research you start to see clues from various other unrelated sources where ther ecould be some truth in all this. Pretty scary stuff. Another reason why we should all question authority and never take things at face value.

Night Rider
12-11-2007, 01:15 PM
I always thought homosexuality was caused by people sleeping with members of the same sex.

-Quinn

lmao!!!!!!!

BrassVillanueva
12-11-2007, 02:43 PM
But because of society’s bombardment with a the propaganda of “Political Correctness” a concept developed and propagated by the Jews and the Jewish owned media (Newspapers, Television, magazines, and now – increasingly – radio) for sinister aims...
Yeah, um... as pointed out before, this pretty much invalidates the entire thing. Also kinda makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

FREEFALLL666
12-11-2007, 02:57 PM
some people its by choice and others its their hormones and how they were born. its very simple but at the same time complexWHUT? It aint by choice, its purely biological, it happens all over the animal kingdom(yes we are chimps). To imply choice is excusing the attitude that there is something wrong with gays.

As for the father thing? Bullshit, most of the 100% gay lads I have known have had fathers who were verry close, hell they even went to sports clubs together. Naa this study is trying to say that GAY=WEAK.


Alexander The Great:-Bisexual emperor of half the world.
SPARTANS;- Recruits were given to experienced soldiers as lovers (HOMEOSEXUALITY WAS MANDATORY) they were then trained as fighters.

igotmacedbymimi:(
12-11-2007, 03:58 PM
Pol thankyou for that.

Now i know that its the jews who are responsible for me liking cock. They programmed me to like cock with their jewish media so that i dont reproduce and the human race doesnt increase.

stillies77
12-11-2007, 03:59 PM
uh...

thx1138
12-11-2007, 04:27 PM
@ poleskr: you've been here awhile. You should know by now that any attempt at an erudite discussion will be greeted by an avalanche of replies from the troglytic comedians. If you want intelligent discussion PM me. Re: population control: yes, it's real. The four horsemen of the apocalypse are either generated or amplified (or both) by covert government groups.

Urian
12-11-2007, 04:32 PM
I am an intersexual male, a 47XXY one and I am attracted to women and the reality is that my brain is more similar to the female one than the male one and the reality is that I hate cock in my partner and my sexual relationships are ever from the active perspective.

If my brain structure is more similar to the female one than the other then... why I am attracted to girls instead of guys.

tsmandy
12-11-2007, 08:03 PM
Discredited science mixed with Nazi propaganda, how charming.

TJT
12-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Looks like Kriss is back.

How many handles does that boy have?

El Nino
12-12-2007, 09:22 AM
Nice, Mandy!