Why do some transsexual women...

[AllanahStarrNYC]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...

[Redkondor]

I can only imagine what girls have to go through. As a guy, Ive generally found for myself, I get most angry when I feel disrespected or take myself to seriously.

[Fox]

Interesting question. It's interesting because I can't think of a clear answer. The best I can come up with is that they haven't transitioned 100%. I guess there is some 'maleness' left over.

[mbf]

oh, we are liking generalisations again . wont get us anywhere though.

how does this "aggressiveness" show?

does this statement, Allanah, stem from observations from this board?

If that is the case I have to say, its always the same few individuals who one could attribute those "qualities" to.

"how do men fight"? are you referring to teenagers, or early 20somethings who get drunk and start barfights?

or corproate types in their 40ies who are on the warpath to destroy their opponents in the business-world?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

oh, we are liking generalisations again . wont get us anywhere though.

how does this "aggressiveness" show?

does this statement, Allanah, stem from observations from this board?

If that is the case I have to say, its always the same few individuals who one could attribute those "qualities" to.

"how do men fight"? are you referring to teenagers, or early 20somethings who get drunk and start barfights?

or corproate types in their 40ies who are on the warpath to destroy their opponents in the business-world?

this has nothing to DO with this board or the people on it

it's a question and i asked for opinions

if you a man are not aware of how men interact and fight with each other
or the differences between men and women, then i am not sure what to tell you-however to me there is a clear difference.

this topic and responses are all subjective-
based on personal observations and opinions

that's all

[KiraHarden]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...They may be afraid to let go of their male side totally out of fear of being volunerable, or weak... This should also apply to girls that attack with verbal as well as the physical alltercations.

[alphanumeric]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...

:shrug

[hondarobot]

People fight when they feel frustrated by various factors. It's not a good thing to do.

[wombat33]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...



I guess because they still have testosterone in the body and are born to be biologically male and suffer the same shit any other male would.

Despite transitioning (rather well on many girls part) I imagine the testosterone is still there.

Just a guess with no harm intended at all.

Once I was at show world on 42nd street. I went into a booth with one hot spanish T-girl and this tall black hottie was PISSSED OFF and kept kicking my door and calling me a mother fucker.


go figure. The spanish girl was hotter. LOL

[Nowhere]

It's either (A) a complete lack of class or (B) that they've made the transition for reasons they're not admitting to themselves (like getting more straight guys than they would as living as a gay man, not because they're truly a woman).

I see no other explanation.

[Alison Faraday]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...

A topic worthy of comment.

They fit into the very damaged individuals category.

I've been to *events* where I've felt threatened or had an evening of someone behaving aggressively towards me. A couple of years ago I went to one of these TG venues on an off chance. I was playing pool. This person, just came up to me and barged me out of the way. And then kept on repeatedly doing it. It's not as if I was in their path by any means.

Another occassion, another event, this time for charity. This person, another one, sat there all night staring at me. And I don't mean in awe. This went on for hours. I was glad to get out of the place.

The point is, I don't know these people. That apparently is just the way that they behave. It's certainly not a way in which any woman will behave. A woman will get you with venomous spit, in careful time, and with disasterous consequences. Men are much more up front and direct about things. They're coarse and unrefined. Now that's not to say that women don't behave in that manner because they most certainly do.

One of the things that I have an issue with is the aloof elitist attitudes that are taken by transgendered individuals. My feelings tell me that they are very lonely individuals. Which in itself is sad and you want to help. Yet they cannot be helped as they have this defensive barrier 10-miles high in place. Alternatively they have this MASSIVE gigantic opinion of themselves. The reality though is that they're never going to lead a normal life among us mere mortals plodding our way through the crap.

Another thing is drugs. That changes people. And just like the clubbing scene of the 90's, the transgendered scene seems awash with them. You can't apparently have a good time without them. I've seen people change from quite humble warm people of varied conversation into very emotionless souls unable to rise to the moment.

In some respects it's not even worth bothering to figure out. Just avoid them. Each to their own. There's good in everyone I believe but I'm not always sure where it is. Maybe they forgot it.

There's only one or possibly two that I will enjoy time with. A rather jaded view perhaps but my friends are my honest friends. Is it to boast of who they are? No it is not. They are my friends. It isn't a competition.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Hey Miss Allison!

I really have nothing to add besides we all come in different shapes, sizes, and attitudes lol

[Alison Faraday]

Hey Miss Allison!

I really have nothing to add besides we all come in different shapes, sizes, and attitudes lol

Ooooh ello :-)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...

I *think* It's because..You can bring out the GIRL out of the MAN but you cannot take out the MAN within the GIRL. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[hondarobot]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL Girl, I was being funny! :lol: But I should have ADDED the keyword SOME. As in:

You can bring out the GIRL out of the MAN but you cannot take out the MAN within some of the GIRLS. LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[trish]

aggression and especially defensive aggression is not necessarily a male trait; e.g. mothers will aggressively defend their children. many societies frown upon aggression in women and reward aggression in men, but i believe it to be natural to both genders.

[hondarobot]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.I don't think its good at all. But just look at this board where antagonistic men are allowed to stir shit constantly with the Tgirls, and there are "Fight Club" threads. If anyone wants to make it a better world, the mods can start right here. Guys were saying that Mimi needed to be choked before she ever even made a post here. How's that for being put on the defensive from day one? Imo those assholes should've been banned immediately.

Don't take that out on me. Over three years, I've been in a fight pretty much every day here. I'm one of the good guys.

[hondarobot]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.I don't think its good at all. But just look at this board where antagonistic men are allowed to stir shit constantly with the Tgirls, and there are "Fight Club" threads. If anyone wants to make it a better world, the mods can start right here. Guys were saying that Mimi needed to be choked before she ever even made a post here. How's that for being put on the defensive from day one? Imo those assholes should've been banned immediately.

Don't take that out on me. Over three years, I've been in a fight pretty much every day here. I'm one of the good guys.I don't, Honda. I think you are actually one of the most upfront and friendly guys here. I'm not getting caught up in the he said/she said bullshit with you and VR. I think you've acted obsessed but I think you have it in check. You're fine with me and always have been.

I wouldn't worry about the VR thing. I'm sure she's doing fine, but that's her own business. My application for Pool Boy is still pending.

:wink:

[TsVanessa69]

People fight when they feel frustrated by various factors. It's not a good thing to do.
Good point.

[Steve-Oh]

Although Allanah asks a very valid question....

Any minute.
Any hour:

[hondarobot]

But Allanah said in the real world, and not necessarily here. So I'm sure over the years she's had as much to observe as hostess of her parties as she does on this board. At least here, no one gets physically hurt. As I've said, in real life it takes alot to get me mouthing off. But I generally pass and no one bugs me anyway. But here I have jackasses putting words in mouth and misquoting me. Imo this is not an accurate place to see the phenomenon she's referring to.

We fight when we need to, because if we don't, nobody else will.

That's what we do.

[hondarobot]

But Allanah said in the real world, and not necessarily here. So I'm sure over the years she's had as much to observe as hostess of her parties as she does on this board. At least here, no one gets physically hurt. As I've said, in real life it takes alot to get me mouthing off. But I generally pass and no one bugs me anyway. But here I have jackasses putting words in mouth and misquoting me. Imo this is not an accurate place to see the phenomenon she's referring to.

We fight when we need to, because if we don't, nobody else will.

That's what we do.I'm not so sure that this place needs to be the way it is. But, hey; NYCe's house, NYCe's rules. But you should know what what you're getting into here. This board is a zoo. Anyone who opens their mouth here had better have thick skin or have something to promote. You need to be a bit of a masochist to hang around here for very long. I mean if I was a happily married post op who worked in a bank, why the fuck would I be here? lol

What the hell are you talking about? I've been here longer then you have.

Yeah, this place sucks some times. Deal with that. You're suppose to be part of the good team. Lot's of jerks on the playground. Deal with your fair share of them, I'm dealing with mine.

[hondarobot]

But Allanah said in the real world, and not necessarily here. So I'm sure over the years she's had as much to observe as hostess of her parties as she does on this board. At least here, no one gets physically hurt. As I've said, in real life it takes alot to get me mouthing off. But I generally pass and no one bugs me anyway. But here I have jackasses putting words in mouth and misquoting me. Imo this is not an accurate place to see the phenomenon she's referring to.

We fight when we need to, because if we don't, nobody else will.

That's what we do.I'm not so sure that this place needs to be the way it is. But, hey; NYCe's house, NYCe's rules. But you should know what what you're getting into here. This board is a zoo. Anyone who opens their mouth here had better have thick skin or have something to promote. You need to be a bit of a masochist to hang around here for very long. I mean if I was a happily married post op who worked in a bank, why the fuck would I be here? lol

What the hell are you talking about? I've been here longer then you have.

Yeah, this place sucks some times. Deal with that. You're suppose to be part of the good team. Lot's of jerks on the playground. Deal with your fair share of them, I'm dealing with mine. :? Why? I don't deal with it enough as it is? I've been here for a good 2 years, and I've dealt with plenty. But it doesn't mean that I like what goes on here much of the time. All I really want to do here is socialize and promote stuff.

But don't you think that dipshit from Ireland should be banned? I know you do. But why hasn't he been? Why? Because people love the fights, and that includes the mods. And I'm sure it keeps people coming back and buying DVD's and memberships.

Oh, should the "Night Rider" from Ireland be banned, definately. I hate that guy.

It's freedom of speech. Just ignore the assholes. I saw Chef Mike go on a rant against me while I was at work today. Who cares? Chef Mike, Night Rider, losers.

:wink:

[hondarobot]

Once we get to Costa Rica, you're walking the dog. I guess I'll be stuck with the pool.

:P

[JamesHunt]

hondarobot gets sucked in by Nicole Dupree, LMFAO :lol:

[hondarobot]

That's up to her. She's got more money then I do. I guess I could build one if I had to.

:wink:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.I don't think its good at all. But just look at this board where antagonistic men are allowed to stir shit constantly with the Tgirls, and there are "Fight Club" threads. If anyone wants to make it a better world, the mods can start right here. Guys were saying that Mimi needed to be choked before she ever even made a post here. How's that for being put on the defensive from day one? Imo those assholes should've been banned immediately.


I love how this went from 'certain' women acting inappropriately in 'reality' to 'How fucked up is Hung Angels' I really do.

With all do respect there's a plethora of other smaller forums and yahoo groups you all either own or can go to. Be honest with yourself, you KNOW they aren't going to be successful, they'll just momentarily give you freedom from reading things put up by individuals who finally have a place to express themselves. Forgive us for having a place on the net to actually converse about transgendered women, oh no................... it was to be like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, prim & proper all the time where everyone is respectful to everyone else.

Kiss my ass, long live the drama, long live chat rooms like fight club on gabbly, because I'd rather be around a bunch of people with issues who can say 'fuck you [insert insult here]' rather than a bunch of kiss asses like almost any other general discussion forum on any other site has out of fear of banishment, to me that's a fucking test lab for monkeys.

Back to the OP and question. Because you can took the hood out of the rat but you can never take the rat out of the hood. You can dress up a little faggot in manolo's and gucci with a prada bag hanging from an arm and at the end of the day you still have a little boy who is scared someone is gonna say 'ewwwwwwwwww mommy look at that, I'm scared" and be quick to pull off a $2 wig ball up a fist and start swinging.

Happens once a month at a party in any major town, happens once a day when a client walks in past the infamous invisible character opening the door for a session then wanting to leave, and it happens every so often on mass transportation when someone gets mad at getting clocked. If you're going to be a woman, BE A WOMAN. Don't get mad that you're not pulling 'coins' like the more feminine chicks in the club are, make a scene and try to bite the dj's arm off when he comes to break your mannish ass off of the feminine girl minding her business.
(lol, that last one none of you out of NY'ers will get)

[hondarobot]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.I don't think its good at all. But just look at this board where antagonistic men are allowed to stir shit constantly with the Tgirls, and there are "Fight Club" threads. If anyone wants to make it a better world, the mods can start right here. Guys were saying that Mimi needed to be choked before she ever even made a post here. How's that for being put on the defensive from day one? Imo those assholes should've been banned immediately.


I love how this went from 'certain' women acting inappropriately in 'reality' to 'How fucked up is Hung Angels' I really do.

With all do respect there's a plethora of other smaller forums and yahoo groups you all either own or can go to. Be honest with yourself, you KNOW they aren't going to be successful, they'll just momentarily give you freedom from reading things put up by individuals who finally have a place to express themselves. Forgive us for having a place on the net to actually converse about transgendered women, oh no................... it was to be like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, prim & proper all the time where everyone is respectful to everyone else.

Kiss my ass, long live the drama, long live chat rooms like fight club on gabbly, because I'd rather be around a bunch of people with issues who can say 'fuck you [insert insult here]' rather than a bunch of kiss asses like almost any other general discussion forum on any other site has out of fear of banishment, to me that's a fucking test lab for monkeys.

Back to the OP and question. Because you can took the hood out of the rat but you can never take the rat out of the hood. You can dress up a little faggot in manolo's and gucci with a prada bag hanging from an arm and at the end of the day you still have a little boy who is scared someone is gonna say 'ewwwwwwwwww mommy look at that, I'm scared" and be quick to pull off a $2 wig ball up a fist and start swinging.

Happens once a month at a party in any major town, happens once a day when a client walks in past the infamous invisible character opening the door for a session then wanting to leave, and it happens every so often on mass transportation when someone gets mad at getting clocked. If you're going to be a woman, BE A WOMAN. Don't get mad that you're not pulling 'coins' like the more feminine chicks in the club are, make a scene and try to bite the dj's arm off when he comes to break your mannish ass off of the feminine girl minding her business.
(lol, that last one none of you out of NY'ers will get)


What?

[hondarobot]

What I'm saying, no offense intended, but what the hell was that about?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

fuck you bitch, I promised you a beating

[hondarobot]

What the hell is going on here? JWBL is zapping my posts. I'll deal with this tomorrow. You don't do that. That's bullshit.

[slinky]

you can took the hood out of the rat but you can never take the rat out of the hood.



Ummm.... isn't it the other way around?

[slinky]

I'm not sure exactly what Allanah is referring to, but in "the good old days".........

Outside of Sally's you'd see 2 ex-Golden Glove'ers squaring off in full boxing stances and throwing jabs and hooks at each other till their wigs fell off and then some. Haven't see anything but "sissy fights" lately (but then I usually miss all the good stuff).

[slinky]

We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here.

None?

Ok, I promise next time you come to NYC I'll say all the nasty stuff I say to any of the girls here to your face (or your back, if you prefer ;) ).

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

you can took the hood out of the rat but you can never take the rat out of the hood.



Ummm.... isn't it the other way around?

actually you're correct, lol

[yodajazz]

look like women but still behave and fight like men-and are extremely aggresive and defensive?

I am curious.

Opinions please...

A topic worthy of comment.

They fit into the very damaged individuals category.

I've been to *events* where I've felt threatened or had an evening of someone behaving aggressively towards me. A couple of years ago I went to one of these TG venues on an off chance. I was playing pool. This person, just came up to me and barged me out of the way. And then kept on repeatedly doing it. It's not as if I was in their path by any means.

Another occassion, another event, this time for charity. This person, another one, sat there all night staring at me. And I don't mean in awe. This went on for hours. I was glad to get out of the place.

The point is, I don't know these people. That apparently is just the way that they behave. It's certainly not a way in which any woman will behave. A woman will get you with venomous spit, in careful time, and with disasterous consequences. Men are much more up front and direct about things. They're coarse and unrefined. Now that's not to say that women don't behave in that manner because they most certainly do.

One of the things that I have an issue with is the aloof elitist attitudes that are taken by transgendered individuals. My feelings tell me that they are very lonely individuals. Which in itself is sad and you want to help. Yet they cannot be helped as they have this defensive barrier 10-miles high in place. Alternatively they have this MASSIVE gigantic opinion of themselves. The reality though is that they're never going to lead a normal life among us mere mortals plodding our way through the crap.

Another thing is drugs. That changes people. And just like the clubbing scene of the 90's, the transgendered scene seems awash with them. You can't apparently have a good time without them. I've seen people change from quite humble warm people of varied conversation into very emotionless souls unable to rise to the moment.

In some respects it's not even worth bothering to figure out. Just avoid them. Each to their own. There's good in everyone I believe but I'm not always sure where it is. Maybe they forgot it.

There's only one or possibly two that I will enjoy time with. A rather jaded view perhaps but my friends are my honest friends. Is it to boast of who they are? No it is not. They are my friends. It isn't a competition.


Although I like Allison’s answer best I’ll put it my own way. I say it’s because insecurity. The more insecure a person is, the more they need someone else’s opinion to validate themselves. They also take their own self worth more by comparing themselves to other people. Everyone does to some extent, but a more secure person will do it much less. It’s a form of spiritual maturity.

As a wise friend of mine says, “I am the best at being me that I can be. And since no one else can be me, there is no one better.”

[NYTSJulie]

I think transsexuals getting into physical fights is very low class. It might be the level of testosterone, who knows? I knew a TS who was always looking for fights when ever we went out. She fought with men, women and other trannys. She would have a few drinks and anyone who looked at her she would reply with "what ya looking at" as she shrugged she shoulders, bobbed her head and got closer to their face. At times she was real funny to watch.

Although, I think if a person is verbally aggressive its an attractive quality, probably assertive would be a better choice of words. I think someone who doesn't sit on the sidelines and take any shit, someone who can use their intellect, that's attractive.

I like to banter with people it can be fun, I have never in a physical fight though.

[mbf]

aggression and especially defensive aggression is not necessarily a male trait; e.g. mothers will aggressively defend their children. many societies frown upon aggression in women and reward aggression in men, but i believe it to be natural to both genders.

this is the best reply - at least in my insignificant eyes.

why? because it evades the "stereotype-trap".

"male" and "female" aggression have many different forms, according to the setting.

conflicts - or conflict managment for that matter - are beeing settled or exacerbated differently regarding the age, status, environment, "race" (and many more factors that might play a role) of the people involved.

they are not typically "male" or "female", any situation which shows signs of aggressiveness or anger has to be assessed in its own rights.

[youcancallmeclaire]

I used to be aggressive alot.

I think most of it came from the fact that alot of my girlfriends were completely nuts and wouldn't think twice about swinging at a guy.

My mom is obviously bipolar but she denies it. I know I inherited alot of that, and used to lose control alot the way she did.

There's always hormonal imbalances.

...and then environmental circumstances can just make a person MEAN; male or female.

Oh, and drugs.

I don't see how aggression in either sexes is that difficult to understand. There are so many factors that could contribute to that sort of disposition.

[BeardedOne]

I think it's all relative to the situation.

When I was a child, my mother used to take me to the ORIGINAL Filene's Basement. There was a stairway that came down from the store entrance on Washington and Summer (I think it was Summer Street) and split at a landing near the bottom to go left and right. Mothers would leave their kids on the landing, where they could be seen from almost any spot on the sales floor, and go down into the bins.

I witnessed a lot on those days and can surely say that I have never seen men fight that way. :smh

[Night Rider]

Fuck Night Rider's whore mother in the ear with his dead grandmother's cock.

These are the sort of 'immature lies' that bore me. First you're the $20 street whore, and my grandmother is cockless and is alive and well. If she did have a cock, it wouldn't be the pathetic little maggot you're sporting between your legs. God really did fuck with you, big time.

Now stop whining to the mods, they're capable of doing their jobs without some emotionally unstable gremlin crying to them once a week. If you can't handle insults, then try keeping your trash mouth shut for a change.

[ironx]

Insecurity..........

[Night Rider]

Fuck Night Rider's whore mother in the ear with his dead grandmother's cock.

These are the sort of 'immature lies' that bore me. First you're the $20 street whore, and my grandmother is cockless and is alive and well. If she did have a cock, it wouldn't be the pathetic little maggot you're sporting between your legs. God really did fuck with you, big time.

Now stop whining to the mods, they're capable of doing their jobs without some emotionally unstable gremlin crying to them once a week. If you can't handle insults, then try keeping your trash mouth shut for a change.Look. If that's what your mom charged when your dad impregnated her, I understand. I'm not sure what street hookers in Ireland make, and I really don't care.

I'm an escort. I know that's a concept you may never fully grasp. And you're probably upset that you can't date men for a few hundred $ an hour too. But thats life in your world. Maybe you should start an Irish TS forum, and start taking hormones. It's sad how gay guys hate TS women because they're jealous of who we sleep with.

So "bore" yourself the fuck on outta my face, bastard boy, and get back to doing your coke all by yourself. Maybe try "rocking the silver stars" on the "am I gay" threads, you fruit.

Yeah because people (other than Stevie Wonder) would pay you 3 figure sums for sex. :lies Maybe the odd downsyndrome victim, but nobody else. You're the most repulsive, confused man on this forum. I don't hate on TS women at all, just people in general that piss me off. If you were actually a TS and not a confused man then I might be a bit more sympathetic. What's the difference in me calling you a man, and you calling me a "gay bastard"? The difference is I'm a straight bastard and you're a man.

Now stay the fuck away from me Adrian "Nick" Dupree, you confused mess.

[echimandu]

I'm not quite sure if that's a rhetorical question. Why do some men kill us simply because we are TS? Why do religious fundamentalists think we will go to hell? In a world like this, those realities just may give some of us reason to feel just a bit defensive. Why did Stonewall happen at all?

GG's can take a certain amount of their sense of security for granted. Until we're "complete", pre-ops ultimately can't. But I'd say that the survival instincts and personalities of someone who's experienced gender dysphoria are as different as their fingerprints.

OK, fighting is justified at certain times. I agree with that. There are stupid people in this world who need to be confronted. But in general, it's not good.I don't think its good at all. But just look at this board where antagonistic men are allowed to stir shit constantly with the Tgirls, and there are "Fight Club" threads. If anyone wants to make it a better world, the mods can start right here. Guys were saying that Mimi needed to be choked before she ever even made a post here. How's that for being put on the defensive from day one? Imo those assholes should've been banned immediately.


I love how this went from 'certain' women acting inappropriately in 'reality' to 'How fucked up is Hung Angels' I really do.

With all do respect there's a plethora of other smaller forums and yahoo groups you all either own or can go to. Be honest with yourself, you KNOW they aren't going to be successful, they'll just momentarily give you freedom from reading things put up by individuals who finally have a place to express themselves. Forgive us for having a place on the net to actually converse about transgendered women, oh no................... it was to be like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, prim & proper all the time where everyone is respectful to everyone else.

Kiss my ass, long live the drama, long live chat rooms like fight club on gabbly, because I'd rather be around a bunch of people with issues who can say 'fuck you [insert insult here]' rather than a bunch of kiss asses like almost any other general discussion forum on any other site has out of fear of banishment, to me that's a fucking test lab for monkeys.

We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here. Therefore, when the girls tell them that their mothers are crack whores, I don't want to hear about how unladylike we are. IRL, I wouldn't rub elbows with these losers long enough to hear any of their useless opinions anyway. But how sad is it that when they do have the chance to talk to us, they fuck it all up. Well they get the responses they deserve.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention, Fuck Night Rider's whore mother in the ear with his dead grandmother's cock.

And, btw I'm not going ANYWHERE. If I can get along with you, I can get used to anything. But you promised me spider monkey and I am not forgetting that.Umm, excuse me. Regardless if you feel I'm one of those assholes, I will say anything to anyone in person that I said here. Cause I don't bullshit here. I say what I mean. No different in person. Also, I see why JW hates you.

[mpcc2004]

I guess it would be more feminine to plot and hold a grudge for years instead of handling things physically.

No offense to anyone, but it is much more common for men to get in to a fight and then its done. A lot (not all) women won't get in a fight but they will plot, scheme and hold a grudge for years. I'm not saying one is better than the other, that is just my observation.

[foolish99]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc

But to return to the original question --- I dont know and I think it was asked rhetorically but I will say it is one of the least attracticve things about tgirls. I dated a girl for a year or two and over the course of that time she got into 2 fistfights (I was there for neither) that she described to me in great detail and with great pride. It was really bizarre --- and totally inconsistent with my very feminine image of her ....

[Night Rider]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc

Until you know what the fuck you're talking about, keep your bitch mouth shut...

[mbf]

SO, this has degenerated into ChefMike trying to bully Honda Robot etc


there is not a single post from chefmike in this thread. but dont let facts distract you from "your" reality......

[Night Rider]

Yeah because people (other than Stevie Wonder) would pay you 3 figure sums for sex. :lies Maybe the odd downsyndrome victim, but nobody else. You're the most repulsive, confused man on this forum. I don't hate on TS women at all, just people in general that piss me off. If you were actually a TS and not a confused man then I might be a bit more sympathetic. What's the difference in me calling you a man, and you calling me a "gay bastard"? The difference is I'm a straight bastard and you're a man.

Now stay the fuck away from me Adrian "Nick" Dupree, you confused mess."Blah, blah, blah. Don't piss me off, 'Nick', or I'll cry in my Lucky Charms." Who cares who pisses you off, you loser? You're a coke head that lives on the internet. Boo fucking hoo, Mr Potato Head.

Good comeback :lol:

Nicole dupree "man or transvestite"

82% voted man (what does that tell you)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MonsieurValentine]

sheesh.

[Night Rider]

It tells me that people who even bothered to vote don't like me. Why don't all of you get together a circle jerk. :sleep

Well a lot of people don't like you then...

[Night Rider]

We interrupt this thread to let Night Rider have some much needed attention. This is a test of your patience, and only a test. Had it actually been anyone who had something worthy of contributing, you would have been advised to skip past his rant and proceed to another post.

That proves that you can't stay away from me. I wasn't going to respond to your last post, but you had to cry out for attention. You brought my name into this thread first, you delusional piece of shit. Fuck off, you and hondarobot have a lot in common, you're both confused about your gender and you're both stalkers.

You've proven Allanah right, the difference being, you also look like a man.

[echimandu]

It's funny how so many guys assume that I was referring to them, and need to let me know that they're different.As far as I'm concerned, you need to know. Take that shit to some cowardly cockhound. It don't fly with me.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Why does every post on here seem to degenerate into a fight between you two?

I mean really- get a room already.

[Night Rider]

It bores me as much as it bores you

[hondarobot]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc



Neither Chef Mike, Night Rider, or several other people will ever be in a position to "bully" anyone here. They are nobodies, anonymous trolls. Every forum has them.

[Night Rider]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc



Neither Chef Mike, Night Rider, or several other people will ever be in a position to "bully" anyone here. They are nobodies, anonymous trolls. Every forum has them.

This is the "male" version of Nicole. Always mentioning my name, crying out for attention. I'm not "bullying" anyone, and if anyone thought I was, I'd be banned.

[hondarobot]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc



Neither Chef Mike, Night Rider, or several other people will ever be in a position to "bully" anyone here. They are nobodies, anonymous trolls. Every forum has them.

This is the "male" version of Nicole. Always mentioning my name, crying out for attention. I'm not "bullying" anyone, and if anyone thought I was, I'd be banned.

You are correct, you're not bullying anyone. You're a forum troll. It's pretty straight forward. I'm not the only one to find your addiction to this forum amusing.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. LOOOOOSER. You can't leave now, and nobody likes you.

:lol:

[Night Rider]

You are correct, you're not bullying anyone. You're a forum troll. It's pretty straight forward. I'm not the only one to find your addiction to this forum amusing.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. LOOOOOSER. You can't leave now, and nobody likes you.

:lol:

You crack me up honda, the forum needs people like you. You're a star here, people have your quotes as their signatures. The sad thing is you're famous for molesting a girl in her sleep. I guess we all give you a free pass though, because you have so much going on in your head. It must be hard being a non-op transexual lesbian sort of thing, that's bald with a beard. Also life must be hard working those late nights at the gay bar, eh Jeff?

People will probably read this thinking I'm joking, but this is all true, you really are a star here!

[hondarobot]

You are correct, you're not bullying anyone. You're a forum troll. It's pretty straight forward. I'm not the only one to find your addiction to this forum amusing.

Free speech is a bitch sometimes. LOOOOOSER. You can't leave now, and nobody likes you.

:lol:

You crack me up honda, the forum needs people like you. You're a star here, people have your quotes as their signatures. The sad thing is you're famous for molesting a girl in her sleep. I guess we all give you a free pass though, because you have so much going on in your head. It must be hard being a non-op transexual lesbian sort of thing, that's bald with a beard. Also life must be hard working those late nights at the gay bar, eh Jeff?

People will probably read this thinking I'm joking, but this is all true, you really are a star here!

I work days at the "gay bar", not nights. And who's "we". Did your friends bail on you again?

[Night Rider]

:arrow:

[hondarobot]

:arrow:

Hmm. In your short time here, if you didn't in fact read the entire forum or had been lurking for years, who gave you those links to old posts of mine? I'm just curious. I'd bet it was one of the Honda Patrol, and you're trading "young looking ts" pictures right now.

Leopold and Loeb, revisited.

:lol:

[Night Rider]

You'll never know who gave me them ;)

[hondarobot]

You'll never know who gave me them ;)

I already know. It's a member of the Honda Patrol. Probably Chef Mike, he's the creepiest. Possibly Quinn, he tries to be sneaky. It's one of those guys.

Why would I care? I'm just pointing out how deranged you guys are.

[Night Rider]

Yeah! We're the derranged ones...


I have a somewhat odd confession I feel the need to make. I'm not looking for some goofy group hug or trying to get attention, it's just something that's been bugging me my whole life and I think it's about time I said something about it. I'm sure there are probably other people like me that are afraid to speak up and are probably having a pretty miserable life keeping things a secret.

I'm a TS. Yes, that sucked typing that and I'm sure it's the last thing anybody actually wanted to read. I don't live as a girl, I don't even want to be a girl, and I'm not attracted to men so I don't feel the need to make any physical changes. It's a hard deal being born a guy, having a girls brain and emotions, and being only attracted to girls to top it all off.

What in the world makes me think I'm trans, especially if I have no desire to physically be female? Well, physically I am fairly girl like. 5' 6", 135lbs, nice eye lashes, use to have hair down to my ass (and it's a pretty damn nice ass), all sorts of things. I shave my head now, have a beard, and so on to accentuate the male thing. I really wish I was 100% guy, life would be easier, but I'm not. People generally figure it out about me, most girls I've known don't really mind, they eventually come to the wrong conclusion that I'm gay.

I'm pretty sure Vicki figured things out awhile ago. When I met her the first thing I asked her was about her shoes, then proceeded to pick apart a quesadilla while chattering away about loopy stuff. Don't get me wrong, I don't act like some queenie guy, most people have no idea at all, I put on a good act. I'm just posting this to get things off my chest. I've been acting crazy a lot lately online, and especially getting on Vicki's nerves I'm sure with a ton of nonsense. I feel bad that I tried so hard this last year to convince her I was a "manly man", but I just couldn't make myself be that.

If their are any other guys here like me, don't worry you're not crazy. I suppose the decision to physical transform is a subject the girls could address. I'm fine how I am, a non-op transgender lesbian sorta thing.

You can't choose the kind of brain you're born with, but you can be honest with yourself and others.

And yes, if you think "that sucked! what's this wuss going on about!" just think how much I really didn't want to post it.

[hondarobot]

Yeah! We're the derranged ones...


I have a somewhat odd confession I feel the need to make. I'm not looking for some goofy group hug or trying to get attention, it's just something that's been bugging me my whole life and I think it's about time I said something about it. I'm sure there are probably other people like me that are afraid to speak up and are probably having a pretty miserable life keeping things a secret.

I'm a TS. Yes, that sucked typing that and I'm sure it's the last thing anybody actually wanted to read. I don't live as a girl, I don't even want to be a girl, and I'm not attracted to men so I don't feel the need to make any physical changes. It's a hard deal being born a guy, having a girls brain and emotions, and being only attracted to girls to top it all off.

What in the world makes me think I'm trans, especially if I have no desire to physically be female? Well, physically I am fairly girl like. 5' 6", 135lbs, nice eye lashes, use to have hair down to my ass (and it's a pretty damn nice ass), all sorts of things. I shave my head now, have a beard, and so on to accentuate the male thing. I really wish I was 100% guy, life would be easier, but I'm not. People generally figure it out about me, most girls I've known don't really mind, they eventually come to the wrong conclusion that I'm gay.

I'm pretty sure Vicki figured things out awhile ago. When I met her the first thing I asked her was about her shoes, then proceeded to pick apart a quesadilla while chattering away about loopy stuff. Don't get me wrong, I don't act like some queenie guy, most people have no idea at all, I put on a good act. I'm just posting this to get things off my chest. I've been acting crazy a lot lately online, and especially getting on Vicki's nerves I'm sure with a ton of nonsense. I feel bad that I tried so hard this last year to convince her I was a "manly man", but I just couldn't make myself be that.

If their are any other guys here like me, don't worry you're not crazy. I suppose the decision to physical transform is a subject the girls could address. I'm fine how I am, a non-op transgender lesbian sorta thing.

You can't choose the kind of brain you're born with, but you can be honest with yourself and others.

And yes, if you think "that sucked! what's this wuss going on about!" just think how much I really didn't want to post it.

You spelled deranged wrong. Please continue.

8)

[mbf]

Hurray! Yet another thread where I have no idea what's going on.

I think it's time for a little vacation from the internet.



said by the man himself....

[Quinn]

Another "ode to dignity":


I didn't intend it as such, and it was the result of temporary lunacy on my part, but I think my reasoning at the time was "Hmmm. . .I'm kinda a sensative wuss, obviously girls want a manly guy. . .so maybe I'm a girl! That could work!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.utexasclan.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/humiliation.jpg

P.S. Oh, and just you know what sneaky is, cupcake, it's waiting for a drunk woman to fall asleep so you can molest her because you're not man enough to approach her when she's awake. 8)

[Night Rider]

that's another sig if anyone wants it :lol:

[hondarobot]

Yes, another "ode". This is funny stuff, I'm seriously enjoying this right now.

When Forum Trolls Attack. All the girls will love you guys for this. Trade more pictures.

:lol:

[hondarobot]

Another "ode to dignity":


I didn't intend it as such, and it was the result of temporary lunacy on my part, but I think my reasoning at the time was "Hmmm. . .I'm kinda a sensative wuss, obviously girls want a manly guy. . .so maybe I'm a girl! That could work!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.utexasclan.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/humiliation.jpg

P.S. Oh, and just you know what sneaky is, cupcake, it's waiting for a drunk woman to fall asleep so you can molest her because you're not man enough to approach her when she's awake. 8)

Eh, he edited this one, that's always funny. I wonder why he did that?



:lol:

[mbf]

I'd have to agree, beer is indeed a cure-all for nearly any ailment or infliction.

The only side effects I've ever encountered are occasional problems near the end of the night involving gravity and common sense, but ya can't have everything.



:oops:

[hondarobot]

I'd have to agree, beer is indeed a cure-all for nearly any ailment or infliction.

The only side effects I've ever encountered are occasional problems near the end of the night involving gravity and common sense, but ya can't have everything.



:oops:

Keep posting those old threads. You guys are doing great.

[Quinn]

Your imbecilic drivel is there for anyone to reference who cares to. As for editing it, you've already been proven a liar once this week, so your credibility is zero, cupcake:


I'm gonna detox. It's gonna suck, but it's something I wanna do. I have nothing against casual drinking, but I've been a raging drunk and have been for most my life.

http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/moron.jpg

[hondarobot]

Your imbecilic drivel is there for anyone to reference who cares to. As for editing it, you've already been proven a liar once this week, so your credibility is zero, cupcake:


I'm gonna detox. It's gonna suck, but it's something I wanna do. I have nothing against casual drinking, but I've been a raging drunk and have been for most my life.

http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/moron.jpg

Excellent post, from an apparently brilliant tactician, who spends his life on this forum.

Now, why do you read all my posts? I run across yours on accident sometimes. You guys seem to catalog mine for some reason. Why would you do that? That's clearly crazy.

[mbf]

another classic, especially if one considers the Vicki Richter incident which followed....


I'm trying to imagine the pillow talk that transpired-

girl: "Whew, I sure am tired! You, uh, asleep yet?"

guy: "nope."

girl: "Ohhh. Want another drink? I'll go make you one!"

guy: "I'm all good."

girl: "mmm. . .how about an old rag soaked with ether? I mean who doesn't like a little ether before bedtime?"

guy: "uhhhh"

girl: "Pills, maybe?"

guy: yawn

girl: "How about now? Asleep now?"

guy: snore. . ."huh?. . .AHHHHHHHH!"

[hondarobot]

another classic, especially if one considers the Vicki Richter incident which followed....


I'm trying to imagine the pillow talk that transpired-

girl: "Whew, I sure am tired! You, uh, asleep yet?"

guy: "nope."

girl: "Ohhh. Want another drink? I'll go make you one!"

guy: "I'm all good."

girl: "mmm. . .how about an old rag soaked with ether? I mean who doesn't like a little ether before bedtime?"

guy: "uhhhh"

girl: "Pills, maybe?"

guy: yawn

girl: "How about now? Asleep now?"

guy: snore. . ."huh?. . .AHHHHHHHH!"

Heh. Keep going Honda Patrol.

:lol:

[Night Rider]

:lol:


Some of us are born strange, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I'd personally never want to live as a girl, seems like a pain in the ass, but some things you just cant control. Oddly enough, I'm only sexually into girls. A little dyke who got lucky and was born with a dick. I could do without the chest hair, but what can ya do? There's wax and razors.

[hondarobot]

:lol:


Some of us are born strange, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I'd personally never want to live as a girl, seems like a pain in the ass, but some things you just cant control. Oddly enough, I'm only sexually into girls. A little dyke who got lucky and was born with a dick. I could do without the chest hair, but what can ya do? There's wax and razors.

You've posted that several times. Please keep it going.

[Night Rider]

no, that's the second time...it's taken from the "hodarobot's general creepyness" thread

..I could post all night but you get boring after a while

[hondarobot]

I'll just tell you guys what you've done to yourself. You've proven yourselves to be dumb fucks. You won't understand that, because of the "dumb fuck" factor. You don't belong here, but there's not much I can do about that.

Sneaky stupid trolls will always haunt the internet. But who cares?

[Night Rider]

But who cares?

hondarobot cares..

[Quinn]

Your imbecilic drivel is there for anyone to reference who cares to. As for editing it, you've already been proven a liar once this week, so your credibility is zero, cupcake:


I'm gonna detox. It's gonna suck, but it's something I wanna do. I have nothing against casual drinking, but I've been a raging drunk and have been for most my life.

http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/moron.jpg

Excellent post, from an apparently brilliant tactician, who spends his life on this forum.

Now, why do you read all my posts? I run across yours on accident sometimes. You guys seem to catalog mine for some reason. Why would you do that? That's clearly crazy.

ROTFLMAO.... Actually, you’ve made so many pathetically humiliating statements over the years, that it doesn’t take any time or effort to dig one up. Considering the laugh factor, it's well worth the few seconds it takes. So far as searching into other people’s post history, you began all that nonsense. Don’t worry though, your hypocrisy and passive-aggressive whining are familiar to all. That said, you calling anyone crazy is like a skunk complaining that another animal smells:


If I ever post another crazy bunch of nonsense, I would appreciate it if someone would simply tell me to shut the fuck up.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/dumbgwailo/loser.jpg

[hondarobot]

But who cares?

hondarobot cares..

As far as you guys go, I do find it amusing. You do fuck up this forum, though.

[Quinn]

But who cares?

hondarobot cares..

He clearly cares very much. That's what makes this so much fun :lol:

http://media.graytvinc.com/images/biggest+loser.jpg

[hondarobot]

But who cares?

hondarobot cares..

He clearly cares very much. That's what makes this so much fun :lol:

http://media.graytvinc.com/images/biggest+loser.jpg

Heh. I should dig back and find one of your old posts. Whoops. I'm not going to do that because that's crazy. Keep posting.

:lol:

[Quinn]

But who cares?

hondarobot cares..

As far as you guys go, I do find it amusing. You do fuck up this forum, though.

Let's see, what did people say the last time your fruitcake ass said that to someone. Oh, yeah:



Would this be a case of the pot and the kettle?

Yeah no kidding. Honda you scare the girls away, your a fucking obsessive man - you make yourself a target and love the attention.
Go away and get some help. You scare more people here - and post more wasteful posts than anyone.
Take a long hard, sober look in the mirror.
seanchai

What an imbecile.

http://store.hollywoodwax.com/images/DCAM0158.JPG

[Night Rider]

Actually, you’ve made so many pathetically humiliating statements over the years, that it doesn’t take any time or effort to dig one up. Considering the laugh factor, it's well worth the few seconds it takes.

Aint that the truth :lol:

[mbf]

"Hello.
My name is Honda Robot.
I am a 36-year-old-man. I am a Porn Historian (PhD).
I am professor of Tits & Ass Pictures at University:
http://www.longimpressivelinkthatdoesnotwork.edu.ve/>http://www.unellez.edu.ve

I would like to know if you can send me (By Rocket Mail) all the pornography at your disposal. I only need one or two titles, but I will need to pick which ones are best. Also please send cash so that I may mail the unwanted videos back to you.

I just need these items in order to improve my classes because I am developing -joined with my own students in a mass circle jerk five days weekly and we have grown weary of using the same old, cum stained issue of National Geographic/ The Girls Of Kotiki Bay and an overhead projector.

The DVDs will be used for educational purposes only.
My students are waiting for your kind donation, and we are running out of lube.

If you wish to help me, pack the videos and the money in a steamer trunk and ship general delivery to the Minneapolis Postal Office.

Mark it "Attention: Honda Robot"

oh, we are dealing with an academic here.....

[Night Rider]

"I just need these items in order to improve my classes because I am developing -joined with my own students in a mass circle jerk five days weekly and we have grown weary of using the same old, cum stained issue of National Geographic/ The Girls Of Kotiki Bay and an overhead projector."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL

[hondarobot]

Keep it going, you guys are kicking ass. Chef Mike and Suckseed will arrive any minute, and you'll. . .

What? What would you do? You've already posted all my old threads. Nothing happened.

Nothing. That's exactly what's going to happen, because you are loser trolls. Don't make me keep repeating myself, but please keep reposting my old threads. What else would you do?

:lol:

[Quinn]

Heh. I should dig back and find one of your old posts. Whoops. I'm not going to do that because that's crazy. Keep posting.

:lol:

Whoops, you already did that before I ever did, specifically when you were proven a liar earlier this week. Man, you're really dumb. Maybe you should lay off the sauce already and concern what few brain cells you have left.

Oh, and speaking of brilliant tacticians, how's this plan working out:


I will now proceed to attempt to become lecherously wealthy (it's not entirely impossible, actually) and then my past tirades will be forgotten because when you're rich and powerful you're never crazy.

Oh, that's right, you're still working in that dead-end club hoping for so much as a hint of success to erase you're never-ending record of failures:


For a variety of reasons, I have been making frequent wildly insane rants on these boards for quite some time lately. The general themes in these bizarre outbursts are generally either related to my nearly psychotic pursuit of superstar Vicki Richter, or the fact that I believe I am in fact, uh, a woman.



Hondarobot/Jeff is a creep who molested you, right? Yes or no?

Yes. And stop hijacking all my threads.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.brianmicklethwait.com/images/uploads/Humiliated.jpg





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[hondarobot]

Oh, man, that cut to the bone. How's the stroke recovery doing? Still drooling?

[JamesHunt]

Hondarobot, I have no issues with you, apart from the way you gravitate towards vikkis posts, other than that, you seem OK :lol:

[hondarobot]

Hondarobot, I have no issues with you, apart from the way you gravitate towards vikkis posts, other than that, you seem OK :lol:

You spelled Vicki wrong, beyond that I have nothing against you.

[hondarobot]

And then they ran away. . .

[Quinn]

Oh, man, that cut to the bone. How's the stroke recovery doing? Still drooling?

That's it? That's the best you can do.? :lol: :lol: :lol: This really is too easy. I'll tell you what, I work out every day, so tomorrow I'll think of you telling us about how feminine your body is and how you're a TS while I'm doing it.

Now, If I was really interested in demonstrating my physical prowess, I might try making up stories about threatening pimps with swords. Know what I mean there, "Joe Lunchbox":


This goofy guy with glasses walked in and did just what a person would expect him to do, and I laughed at him. He was getting tough, talking shit, and I told him "Shut the fuck up! You're not talking to Joe Lunchbox here. I know this fuckin game and you've been on at least three security cameras just coming up here. I'm going to hang out with your girl, have some drinks, and you're going to walk the fuck away or I'm going to stick a fucking sword in your eye and the cops will call it self defense."

I showed him the sword that I intended to use if things got ugly.

He didn't have anything to say in response, and he left


http://school.familyeducation.com/images/gijoe_H.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Night Rider]

LOL @ Joe Lunchbox!!!

have you not asked the mods for "hot hung angel" stars?

There's nothing sexier than a non-op bald TS with a beard..

[tubgirl]

you guys are all gonna get your asses kicked by honda. he has all the bus schedules in front of him right now...

[hondarobot]

Oh, man, that cut to the bone. How's the stroke recovery doing? Still drooling?

That's it? That's the best you can do.? :lol: :lol: :lol: This really is too easy. I'll tell you what, I work out every day, so tomorrow I'll think of you telling us about how feminine your body is and how you're a TS while I'm doing it.

Now, If I was really interested in demonstrating my physical prowess, I might try making up stories about threatening pimps with swords. Know what I mean there, "Joe Lunchbox":


This goofy guy with glasses walked in and did just what a person would expect him to do, and I laughed at him. He was getting tough, talking shit, and I told him "Shut the fuck up! You're not talking to Joe Lunchbox here. I know this fuckin game and you've been on at least three security cameras just coming up here. I'm going to hang out with your girl, have some drinks, and you're going to walk the fuck away or I'm going to stick a fucking sword in your eye and the cops will call it self defense."

I showed him the sword that I intended to use if things got ugly.

He didn't have anything to say in response, and he left


http://school.familyeducation.com/images/gijoe_H.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go ahead and show a picture, who cares? Ask yourself this: Why do you have any interest in me at all? Answer: you're a forum troll. Pretty much everyone here knows that.

[Quinn]

LOL @ Joe Lunchbox!!!

have you not asked the mods for "hot hung angel" stars?

There's nothing sexier than a non-op bald TS with a beard..

I have to give Chef credit for that one. He used it a long time ago. Either way, this is has clearly become a battle of wits against a man who apparently came unarmed.


Thanks Quinn, but I am going to stay away from the nutty posts in the future, they were the result of stress induced insanity (I really wanted to win that damn contest).

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

I have to give Chef credit for that one

Yeah, the crackwhore story! That was a classic.

[hondarobot]

LOL @ Joe Lunchbox!!!

have you not asked the mods for "hot hung angel" stars?

There's nothing sexier than a non-op bald TS with a beard..

I have to give Chef credit for that one. He used it a long time ago. Either way, this is has clearly become a battle of wits against a man who apparently came unarmed.


Thanks Quinn, but I am going to stay away from the nutty posts in the future, they were the result of stress induced insanity (I really wanted to win that damn contest).

-Quinn

Someday, Quinn and Chef Mike will find true love with each other. J might complete the threesome, but he ran away. I hope these guys do that, but that's not up to me.

[Quinn]

No,cupcake, this is the type of thing they say about a forum troll:



Would this be a case of the pot and the kettle?

Yeah no kidding. Honda you scare the girls away, your a fucking obsessive man - you make yourself a target and love the attention.
Go away and get some help. You scare more people here - and post more wasteful posts than anyone.
Take a long hard, sober look in the mirror.
seanchai

What's that, fembot? Yet another exercise in psychological projection? I'll tell you what, when I'm vilified by anyone at all other than you – let alone a continuous stream of forum members as in your case – then maybe you're statement will appear to be something other than wishful thinking and projection. Nice try though. :wink:

http://getsbybuckner.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/failure.gif

-Quinn

[mbf]

the wonders of self-perception.....


I'm not a bad looking guy, I don't think. I like to think of myself as a cross between a slightly older Colin Farrell and a much younger Sean Connery.

Of course, who doesn't? Actually I just look like a jack ass. I use to post my pic as my avatar, but I got sick of seeing my own face.

[Night Rider]

the wonders of self-perception.....


I'm not a bad looking guy, I don't think. I like to think of myself as a cross between a slightly older Colin Farrell and a much younger Sean Connery.

Of course, who doesn't? Actually I just look like a jack ass. I use to post my pic as my avatar, but I got sick of seeing my own face.

hondarobot is a legend :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hondarobot]

No,cupcake, this is the type of thing they say about a forum troll:



Would this be a case of the pot and the kettle?

Yeah no kidding. Honda you scare the girls away, your a fucking obsessive man - you make yourself a target and love the attention.
Go away and get some help. You scare more people here - and post more wasteful posts than anyone.
Take a long hard, sober look in the mirror.
seanchai

What's that, fembot? Yet another exercise in pschological projection? I'll tell you what, when I'm vilified by anyone at all other than you – let alone a continuous stream of forum members as in your case – then maybe you're statement will appear to be something other than wishful thinking and projection. Nice try though. :wink:

http://vnuuk.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/16/failure.jpg

-Quinn

You spelled "Psychological" incorrectly. Check it out. You're either stupid or insane. Who cares what you think? Stop posting, you are ruining this forum. I'm not leaving. Go away.

[tubgirl]

out of that whole post, you point out that the man missed a "y"...

lame

[hondarobot]

out of that whole post, you point out that the man missed a "y"...

lame

Shut up "tubgirl".

[Night Rider]

This is my last contribution tonight, I'm going to bed...


Note At This Point: I have been drinking! But this is all true.

I thought I was suppose to be a girl when I was six years old. I knew for certain at the age of sixteen. The first time I had full on sex, not just blow job or hand job sex. And yes. It was with a really cute girl.

It's interesting that sex is usually the trigger.

The really weird thing with me is that I have no interest in men. I'm stuck being a cross gender, no interest in surgical operations or hormones, happy to be a non-TS dyke bitch, living as a man. And that's a pretty messed up deal.

It is a mental, emotional, I guess somewhat biochemical thing. It is real, and I'm not an idiot or a crazy person, and it doesn't really bother me.

[mbf]

when experience speaks....



I'm 5' 6" and 135lbs, I have to work my ass off to get laid.

Add a bit of confidence and some conversational skills, you got it made. Unless you're a complete jerk, girls can sense that.

[hondarobot]

when experience speaks....



I'm 5' 6" and 135lbs, I have to work my ass off to get laid.

Add a bit of confidence and some conversational skills, you got it made. Unless you're a complete jerk, girls can sense that.

My God, you're dumb. How do you not realize that? Oh, the stupid loser thing, right.

Go walk into the ocean or something, what you're posting is really funny yet stupid.

[Quinn]

You spelled "Psychological" incorrectly. Check it out. You're either stupid or insane. Who cares what you think? Stop posting, you are ruining this forum. I'm not leaving. Go away.

Cool, thanks for the spelling tip, but you might want to look at the history of your posts because you spell like a slow-witted seven-year old. As for who care's what I think, you do. As for ruining the forum, no one has ever said that I do, other than you – which means nothing considering your lack of credibility here. You, by contrast, have been accused of it numerous times. I guess that happens when some of the most popular women on here get creeped out by you:



Would this be a case of the pot and the kettle?

Yeah no kidding. Honda you scare the girls away, your a fucking obsessive man - you make yourself a target and love the attention.
Go away and get some help. You scare more people here - and post more wasteful posts than anyone.
Take a long hard, sober look in the mirror.
seanchai

Thanks for another demonstration of "psychological" projection. Oh, and I don't want you to ever leave. Watching you continually humiliate yourself is just too funny to ever walk away from for any serious length of time. :wink:

http://myspace.drewpydraws.com/signs/failure.jpg

P.S. People who don't care what someone else thinks don't continually tell them they don't care what they think, you want wit.

[hondarobot]

You spelled "Psychological" incorrectly. Check it out. You're either stupid or insane. Who cares what you think? Stop posting, you are ruining this forum. I'm not leaving. Go away.

Cool, thanks for the spelling tip, but you might want to look at the history of your posts because you spell like a slow-witted seven-year old. As for who care's what I think, you do. As for ruining the forum, no one has ever said that I do, other than you – which means nothing considering your lack of credibility here. You, by contrast, have been accused of it numerous times. I guess that happens when some of the most popular women on here get creeped out by you:



Would this be a case of the pot and the kettle?

Yeah no kidding. Honda you scare the girls away, your a fucking obsessive man - you make yourself a target and love the attention.
Go away and get some help. You scare more people here - and post more wasteful posts than anyone.
Take a long hard, sober look in the mirror.
seanchai

Thanks for another demonstration of "psychological" projection. Oh, and I don't want you to ever leave. Watching you continually humiliate yourself is just too funny to ever walk away from for any serious length of time. :wink:

http://myspace.drewpydraws.com/signs/failure.jpg

P.S. People who don't care what someone else thinks don't continually tell them they don't care what they think, you want wit.

Another great Honda Patrol post. I read the first line.

[slinky]

We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here.

None?

Ok, I promise next time you come to NYC I'll say all the nasty stuff I say to any of the girls here to your face (or your back, if you prefer ;) ).Promise that you'll make it special-nasty for me, and we may have a deal.

I'll make you blush ( I'm quite sure that's not easy).

[Quinn]

out of that whole post, you point out that the man missed a "y"...

lame

Like I said, tubgirl, a battle of wits with an unarmed man.


Guys, this has been great fun, but I have to get up at 5 AM to jump on the London Forex session. That said, I’m going to try and get some sleep. Thanks for the laughs, rider, mbf, and tubgirl. Oh, and last, but certainly not least, thank you molesterbot. You have my gratitude for making this so incredibly fun. Seriously, it’s like being in a target practice competition against Stevie Wonder: so easy it’s nearly pointless (if it weren’t for the laugh factor).

-Quinn

http://www.doubleazone.com/images/easy.jpg

[hondarobot]

out of that whole post, you point out that the man missed a "y"...

lame

Like I said, tubgirl, a battle of wits with an unarmed man.


Guys, this has been great fun, but I have to get up at 5 AM to jump on the London Forex session. That said, I’m going to try and get some sleep. Thanks for the laughs, rider, mbf, and tubgirl. Oh, and last, but certainly not least, thank you molesterbot. You have my gratitude for making this so incredibly fun. Seriously, it’s like being in a target practice competition against Stevie Wonder: so easy it’s nearly pointless (if it weren’t for the laugh factor).

-Quinn

http://www.doubleazone.com/images/easy.jpg

So, why are you here?

[hondarobot]

And people call me and Mimi drama queens? Good lord. You men have made this thread look like a cross between Fight Club and am angry hairdresser's convention. :popcorn

I was just having some fun. You gotta feed something to the trolls on occasion.

:wink:

[BrendaQG]

To the original question.

All I can say is that everyone has come from different places and met different people. We have all met different degree's of acceptance and basic human respect from our fellow humans. If on your path through life you were in environments that were safe and supportive; Then you probably did not have to defend yourself verbally or physically very often. If you came from a hostile environment; Then you naturally assume that all other environments will be the same.
It can be very hard to overcome one's upbringing.

That gay ghetto kid with a purse and $2 whig did come from the ghetto. Ghetto people in general tend to be aggressive because they have to be to survive. If anything being a transsexual in such a hostile environment makes aggression more necessary than it would if one was just a gay male.

[yodajazz]

To the original question.

All I can say is that everyone has come from different places and met different people. We have all met different degree's of acceptance and basic human respect from our fellow humans. If on your path through life you were in environments that were safe and supportive; Then you probably did not have to defend yourself verbally or physically very often. If you came from a hostile environment; Then you naturally assume that all other environments will be the same.
It can be very hard to overcome one's upbringing.

That gay ghetto kid with a purse and $2 whig did come from the ghetto. Ghetto people in general tend to be aggressive because they have to be to survive. If anything being a transsexual in such a hostile environment makes aggression more necessary than it would if one was just a gay male.

Finally, someone back on topic. Brenda you say enviorment, which is a good point. I still say it's more individual psychology.

I saw a ball video excerpt, where one woman pushed another down as they were both walking in formal gowns. Then she got upset when someone called her on it. Someone wrote that her behavior was the opposite of the 'class' she was supposed to be displaying. I agree with what that person wrote.

That's what this tread was orignally about.

[chefmike]

SO, this has degenerated into Night Rider and ChefMike trying to bully Dupree and Honda Robot etc



Neither Chef Mike, Night Rider, or several other people will ever be in a position to "bully" anyone here. They are nobodies, anonymous trolls. Every forum has them.

Why are you constantly trying to blame me because you are the laughing stock of this forum, fembot? What continues to crack me up is the way you keep throwing around the word "anonymous" as if it were an insult. I bet you wish that you were anonymous on HA now, you deranged little imbecile...but it's too late for that now, huh jizzmopper?

You are a creepy little circus freak...3 parts Richard Simmons to 1 part John Hinckley...with a dash of Travis Bickle thrown in...you should have been throttled at birth, you lunatic...

[chefmike]

you guys are all gonna get your asses kicked by honda. he has all the bus schedules in front of him right now...

He's a repugnant and totally deranged jizzmopping freak, tubgirl.

What's not to like?

[chefmike]

Keep it going, you guys are kicking ass. Chef Mike and Suckseed will arrive any minute, and you'll. . .

What? What would you do? You've already posted all my old threads. Nothing happened.

Nothing. That's exactly what's going to happen, because you are loser trolls. Don't make me keep repeating myself, but please keep reposting my old threads. What else would you do?

:lol:

Dry your eyes, tinkerbell...because we're not done with you yet...you are the gift that keeps on giving, fembot...it's just too easy...but a passive-aggressive little punk bitch like you thrives on that, huh?

[suckseed]

Honda's method of arguing 90% of his positions goes like this:

Suckseed: Why did you break your word to stop posting in Vicki's threads Honda?

Honda: You're all trolls.

Suckseed: Why would you say you 'won' that last flame war when you clearly did not?

Honda: Have any of you ever kissed a girl?


You see, he likes to pretend that everyone that calls him on his bullshit provides him with endless entertainment. As for me, if someone says I'm wrong, I set out my argument for whatever I said or did to mount an effective rebuttal. Honda responds directly to my actual questions about 10% of the time. I wonder of his offline life is the same. Just imagine...

Honda walks into his workplace, the Quivering Colon...

Manager: You're late again. Third time this month. Remember what I told you would happen if you were late again?

Honda: This place amuses me. By all means, keep talking.

Manager: Did you replace the mop head before you did the last Jizzmop of the night last night? Because Murray The Gimp says Stall 3 is really slippery.

Honda. I molested Vicki Richter! :lol:

Manager: What's funny? Who is Vicki Richter? The men's room is out of paper towels again. And no smoking out front of the club, it affects business when people can see you. When are you going to find out which subwoofer is humming?

Honda: Wanna hear me burp my social security number?

I'd be willing to bet he was never a member of the debate club...I'm just saying.

[Night Rider]

LMFAO suckseed that is typical honda

[Night Rider]

it's entertainment....this threads dead anyway

[Night Rider]

it's entertainment....this threads dead anywayWhat you need is a life. Now that you're supposedly off drugs, and when they remove those casts from your cock and your wrist, you should try to laid. You don't want to die a virgin with lots of shitty prison-quality tattoos, do you?

stfu Manson, you fucking beast, there's more passabilty in my ballbag. I never had any casts, the only person that needs cast is you over your ugly face, and over your hands so you can't type your pathetic attemps at attacks. Get a fucking grip Mr. $20 gigalo

[TJ347]

We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here. Therefore, when the girls tell them that their mothers are crack whores, I don't want to hear about how unladylike we are. IRL, I wouldn't rub elbows with these losers long enough to hear any of their useless opinions anyway. But how sad is it that when they do have the chance to talk to us, they fuck it all up. Well they get the responses they deserve.

Interesting... I'm immediately forced to wonder whether you'd open your mouth IRL the way you do here, as well as what makes the opinions of "assholes" so useless and yours so valuable, and despite the fact I'm fairly certain that nothing good can come from asking a serious question here, I'll ask anyway in the hope of getting a better understanding.

Moving on, whether or not you, I or anyone else would have the courage to talk tough to each other IRL has nothing to do with any of us being able to make a valid point here on the board. I mean, so you wouldn't tell a guy his mother was a pathetic dickhead if he was actually standing five feet away from you instead of sitting in a chair 2,500 miles away... Does that mean you'd be any less convinced that he was a pathetic dickhead? And so, despite the fact that you clearly place a premium on your opinions and those of your sisters, the rest of us, which you'll remember includes those guys who buy your different wares and keeping you from finding a traditional 9 to 5... we have more right than anyone to voice our opinions, if only due to the fact that we are the primary financiers of the lifestyle of many a TS, be it as clients or purchasers of DVDs, gifts or whatever else have you. How many of your sisters support each other by buying DVDs or paying for sex? Exactly...

Now, if we're assholes for being assholes, that's one thing, but it seems to me that all too often with you, Kelly Shore and several other women here that we're assholes simply for being men and having the audacity to disagree with something you said, which is something else entirely. Then, we wind up arguing and it's "You don't have the right to say anything to us because you don't know what we've lived through", which is pretty much what you told Yodajazz after he made a polite comment in another thread. Hate to think what you'd have said if he'd put more of an edge on his statement, but I'm pretty sure I have a good idea. Would it be right for me to say that with that kind of bias, you get the responses you deserve? Who's to say? But it's definitely the reason behind your falling out with lust4ts, who doesn't argue with anyone other than Honda. Most telling that...

[suckseed]

Once again, mods, please delete the posts by the guys trying to get a circle jerk going where Honda has to eat the bun. This is bullshit.

Double standard...much? C'mon Ari...as a person who vehemently defends her own views, I would hope you can at least appreciate the Honda Patrol's dedication to their job: To serve (Honda - his ass), and protect (innocent newbs and nice girls from Honda), and to amuse (the board and ourselves).


Considering how pissed off you have gotten at the guys who annoy or insult you, imagine two years of every post you made being answered by an obsessed fan who stalks the shit out of you. As long as we're imagining, let's say that the guy also became angry when he realized you weren't into him and that he's creepy and delusional. He thinks you talk to him via secret messages that are really directed to others, and log on here just after he gets to work mopping jizz at his job, the Sagging Sphincter. You've long since given up telling him to stop and leave you alone, and of course, all the usual subtle signs that a person normally would pick up on that it's time to move on are lost on your special guy. BUT WAIT! One day he finally says to the board that he'll stop if you just tell him to. Can it be? So you tell him. Wow! It's finally over! A week goes by. You start to imagine this forum being a place where you can just be your usual funny, smart, sarcastic and astute self.
But it's too good to last. Within a week, he starts popping up again, and he won't say why he's changed his mind.

Whew! That wasn't much fun, was it? How would you feel if all the above were true, but at there's a group of guys on the forum that constantly keep the guy at least somewhat in check.

Oh, and let's add a cherry to this stinking poop-flavored banana split. Some girls on the forum think you deserve it, because you got drunk with the guy once before you realized he was not a normal functioning adult male.

In-fucking-credible.

You know what I like best about being a guy? It's that, for the most part, we have each other's backs when it comes to girls. Every musician fucks a groupie now and then,and we close ranks when an obsessed fan turns into a deranged bunny boiler. Because we know what some women are capable of. Not this little band of bathing beauties though; for the most part, the members of the board who Stalkerbot would most likely listen to have remained utterly silent. And I, for one, have noticed and wondered whether you ladies are jealous of her or what. Ask yourself this question, ladies - how would you like it if it were you?

[hondarobot]

Once again, mods, please delete the posts by the guys trying to get a circle jerk going where Honda has to eat the bun. This is bullshit.

It's my Troll Control of the uh, Honda patrol (a bit too Dr. Seuss-ish, but what ya gonna do?) It's not a problem the mods need to deal with, Nicole.

;)

These guys expect me to get banned or for Vicki Richter to post and proclaim them her heroes. Neither will happen. These guys are stupid and probably insane in various ways, obviously desperate for attention and paying way too much time reading my posts.

I do not hijack Vicki Richter's posts. I do respond to her posts. This is a message board. That's what happens here. That's normal.

I know I said yesterday I wasn't posting here again. I lied. Deal with it, losers. But don't stop posting about me, I enjoy the entertainment.

:lol:

[suckseed]

Once again, mods, please delete the posts by the guys trying to get a circle jerk going where Honda has to eat the bun. This is bullshit.

It's my Troll Control of the uh, Honda patrol (a bit too Dr. Seuss-ish, but what ya gonna do?) It's not a problem the mods need to deal with, Nicole.

;)

These guys expect me to get banned or for Vicki Richter to post and proclaim them her heroes. Neither will happen. These guys are stupid and probably insane in various ways, obviously desperate for attention and paying way too much time reading my posts.

I do not hijack Vicki Richter's posts. I do respond to her posts. This is a message board. That's what happens here. That's normal.

I know I said yesterday I wasn't posting here again. I lied. Deal with it, losers. But don't stop posting about me, I enjoy the entertainment.

:lol:

Once again, proof that too much alcohol and cleaning product fumes do not mix. We don't expect you to get banned, and Vicki communicates with me elsewhere (but you knew that). You don't respond to her posts?! If that were true, limpdick, I would have kept my word and ignored you from here on out. You said you loved her the other day on her mock goodbye thread. And you responded at least one other time as well.
Liar. Oh wait - you admit that yourself. Nice.

[hondarobot]

Once again, mods, please delete the posts by the guys trying to get a circle jerk going where Honda has to eat the bun. This is bullshit.

It's my Troll Control of the uh, Honda patrol (a bit too Dr. Seuss-ish, but what ya gonna do?) It's not a problem the mods need to deal with, Nicole.

;)

These guys expect me to get banned or for Vicki Richter to post and proclaim them her heroes. Neither will happen. These guys are stupid and probably insane in various ways, obviously desperate for attention and paying way too much time reading my posts.

I do not hijack Vicki Richter's posts. I do respond to her posts. This is a message board. That's what happens here. That's normal.

I know I said yesterday I wasn't posting here again. I lied. Deal with it, losers. But don't stop posting about me, I enjoy the entertainment.

:lol:

Once again, proof that too much alcohol and cleaning product fumes do not mix. We don't expect you to get banned, and Vicki communicates with me elsewhere (but you knew that). You don't respond to her posts?! If that were true, limpdick, I would have kept my word and ignored you from here on out. You said you loved her the other day on her mock goodbye thread. And you responded at least one other time as well.
Liar. Oh wait - you admit that yourself. Nice.

Huh? How would I know if Vicki Richter responds to you elsewhere? I have no connection with her forums, or any forum beyond this, for that matter.

Paranoid whack job. You should impotently accuse some other member of this forum of being a "secret Honda identity" next. Whoops. You have done that before. Then you apologized, then attacked me again because I didn't want to be your "forum buddy".

Looooooser. :lol:

[hondarobot]

Oh, a correction on your part. You posted that I "don't" respond to her posts here, I posted that I do. Because I do. You should learn to read better.

[Night Rider]

honda, let me explain a few things to you, these are facts, not an attack...

* nobody has ever called for you to be banned

* you have no relationship with Vicki Richter

* there is no hondapatrol (we all have varying issues with you)

* there are no secret meetings to discuss you as you have claimed (do you think we give a fuck)

Now whether you believe that or not, that's up to you but as other posters have told you, you create your own problems. I'll be honest, it is fun from time to time quoting your idiotic posts, and having a laugh at how crazy you are, but you seem to want the attention too much. You're a person that gets off by being humiliated, so if you like it that much why not get a dominatrix, instead of logging on to HA?

[hondarobot]

honda, let me explain a few things to you, these are facts, not an attack...

* nobody has ever called for you to be banned

* you have no relationship with Vicki Richter

* there is no hondapatrol (we all have varying issues with you)

* there are no secret meetings to discuss you as you have claimed (do you think we give a fuck)

Now whether you believe that or not, that's up to you but as other posters have told you, you create your own problems. I'll be honest, it is fun from time to time quoting your idiotic posts, and having a laugh at how crazy you are, but you seem to want the attention too much. You're a person that gets off by being humiliated, so if you like it that much why not get a dominatrix, instead of logging on to HA?

Yeah, everyone is laughing at. . . me. . . Night Rider (and friends).

These damn trolls just don't stop.

:wink:

[suckseed]

Oh, a correction on your part. You posted that I "don't" respond to her posts here, I posted that I do. Because I do. You should learn to read better.

The point, Asswipe, is that you said you wouldn't. Saying 'I love you' like a newb isn't fooling anyone. Nor is your assertion that your 'responses' are just innocent remarks that could have been from anyone. YOU are the one that had your tongue up her sleeping ass, cocksucker. You said that if she said she never wanted to hear from you again, that's "exactly what would happen." You're a child. You just have to find a way to get her attention don't you? :wink:

[hondarobot]

Oh, a correction on your part. You posted that I "don't" respond to her posts here, I posted that I do. Because I do. You should learn to read better.

The point, Asswipe, is that you said you wouldn't. Saying 'I love you' like a newb isn't fooling anyone. Nor is your assertion that your 'responses' are just innocent remarks that could have been from anyone. YOU are the one that had your tongue up her sleeping ass, cocksucker. You said that if she said she never wanted to hear from you again, that's "exactly what would happen." You're a child. You just have to find a way to get her attention don't you? :wink:

I posted if Vicki Richter wanted me gone, I'd be gone. She didn't post that. She posted "Stop hijacking my threads". I'm not doing that. I'm just responding to them. She doesn't have to post here, and I couldn't effect her doing that anyways.

I've known a lot of losers like you, Suckseed. You desperately try to fit in.

It's a public message board. You Honda patrol losers are crazy. I'm having fun with you guys, but it's getting sad.

Oh, and I did stick my tongue up her ass. She wasn't sleeping. She does lie, women do that. Go meet some, you'll find out.

[suckseed]

Does it occur to you that the right thing to do would be to stay out of the threads she starts entirely?
"Well, I never said i'd do that and you can't make me cause this is a public forum and if she wanted me gone i'd be gone and she's a liar..."
You fucking child. You're pathetic and tiresome.

[hondarobot]

Does it occur to you that the right thing to do would be to stay out of the threads she starts entirely?
"Well, I never said i'd do that and you can't make me cause this is a public forum and if she wanted me gone i'd be gone and she's a liar..."
You fucking child. You're pathetic and tiresome.

That actually never occurred to me. You should be talking to her instead of me, really. I'm mean you got that imaginary connection going on, right? I don't know why you're here bothering me if you're rocking it with VR. I don't get that.

:lol:

[hondarobot]

Does it occur to you that the right thing to do would be to stay out of the threads she starts entirely?
"Well, I never said i'd do that and you can't make me cause this is a public forum and if she wanted me gone i'd be gone and she's a liar..."
You fucking child. You're pathetic and tiresome.

That actually never occurred to me. You should be talking to her instead of me, really. I'm mean you got that imaginary connection going on, right? I don't know why you're here bothering me if you're rocking it with VR. I don't get that.

:lol:

Doh! I just got it. You're a crazy forum troll. Please continue, I love this stuff.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

It's nearly impossible to post a thread on here with most of you people turning it into a 100 page argument.

It's really ridiculous.

[TJ347]

We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here. Therefore, when the girls tell them that their mothers are crack whores, I don't want to hear about how unladylike we are. IRL, I wouldn't rub elbows with these losers long enough to hear any of their useless opinions anyway. But how sad is it that when they do have the chance to talk to us, they fuck it all up. Well they get the responses they deserve.

Interesting... I'm immediately forced to wonder whether you'd open your mouth IRL the way you do here, as well as what makes the opinions of "assholes" so useless and yours so valuable, and despite the fact I'm fairly certain that nothing good can come from asking a serious question here, I'll ask anyway in the hope of getting a better understanding.

Moving on, whether or not you, I or anyone else would have the courage to talk tough to each other IRL has nothing to do with any of us being able to make a valid point here on the board. I mean, so you wouldn't tell a guy his mother was a pathetic dickhead if he was actually standing five feet away from you instead of sitting in a chair 2,500 miles away... Does that mean you'd be any less convinced that he was a pathetic dickhead? And so, despite the fact that you clearly place a premium on your opinions and those of your sisters, the rest of us, which you'll remember includes those guys who buy your different wares and keeping you from finding a traditional 9 to 5... we have more right than anyone to voice our opinions, if only due to the fact that we are the primary financiers of the lifestyle of many a TS, be it as clients or purchasers of DVDs, gifts or whatever else have you. How many of your sisters support each other by buying DVDs or paying for sex? Exactly...

Now, if we're assholes for being assholes, that's one thing, but it seems to me that all too often with you, Kelly Shore and several other women here that we're assholes simply for being men and having the audacity to disagree with something you said, which is something else entirely. Then, we wind up arguing and it's "You don't have the right to say anything to us because you don't know what we've lived through", which is pretty much what you told Yodajazz after he made a polite comment in another thread. Hate to think what you'd have said if he'd put more of an edge on his statement, but I'm pretty sure I have a good idea. Would it be right for me to say that with that kind of bias, you get the responses you deserve? Who's to say? But it's definitely the reason behind your falling out with lust4ts, who doesn't argue with anyone other than Honda. Most telling that...

Hello? :popcorn

[Night Rider]

if you ever want rid of Nicole, just bump this..

[Night Rider]

if you ever want rid of Nicole, just bump this..As usual, my name is on the tip of your tongue. It's even mentioned in your location. Get a life.

Get to the question slut. Everyone knows that it's you who's stalking me, I thought you deserved a spot in my location because of your consistent stalking.

Anyway, I was giving TJ friendly advice, I can't remeber talking to you so stfu and answer.

:popcorn

[Night Rider]

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:




We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here. Therefore, when the girls tell them that their mothers are crack whores, I don't want to hear about how unladylike we are. IRL, I wouldn't rub elbows with these losers long enough to hear any of their useless opinions anyway. But how sad is it that when they do have the chance to talk to us, they fuck it all up. Well they get the responses they deserve.

Interesting... I'm immediately forced to wonder whether you'd open your mouth IRL the way you do here, as well as what makes the opinions of "assholes" so useless and yours so valuable, and despite the fact I'm fairly certain that nothing good can come from asking a serious question here, I'll ask anyway in the hope of getting a better understanding.

Moving on, whether or not you, I or anyone else would have the courage to talk tough to each other IRL has nothing to do with any of us being able to make a valid point here on the board. I mean, so you wouldn't tell a guy his mother was a pathetic dickhead if he was actually standing five feet away from you instead of sitting in a chair 2,500 miles away... Does that mean you'd be any less convinced that he was a pathetic dickhead? And so, despite the fact that you clearly place a premium on your opinions and those of your sisters, the rest of us, which you'll remember includes those guys who buy your different wares and keeping you from finding a traditional 9 to 5... we have more right than anyone to voice our opinions, if only due to the fact that we are the primary financiers of the lifestyle of many a TS, be it as clients or purchasers of DVDs, gifts or whatever else have you. How many of your sisters support each other by buying DVDs or paying for sex? Exactly...

Now, if we're assholes for being assholes, that's one thing, but it seems to me that all too often with you, Kelly Shore and several other women here that we're assholes simply for being men and having the audacity to disagree with something you said, which is something else entirely. Then, we wind up arguing and it's "You don't have the right to say anything to us because you don't know what we've lived through", which is pretty much what you told Yodajazz after he made a polite comment in another thread. Hate to think what you'd have said if he'd put more of an edge on his statement, but I'm pretty sure I have a good idea. Would it be right for me to say that with that kind of bias, you get the responses you deserve? Who's to say? But it's definitely the reason behind your falling out with lust4ts, who doesn't argue with anyone other than Honda. Most telling that...

Hello? :popcorn

[Night Rider]

OMG. You don't know me very well then. I mind my own business IRL, but when someone gets in my face, I let them have it. Oh, and I see you respond to "cock-breath". Have a mint. lol

Just the sort of in depth answer I was expecting from a street whore. :lol: Try some reading, it's said to sharpen the mind.

[Night Rider]

OMG. You don't know me very well then. I mind my own business IRL, but when someone gets in my face, I let them have it. Oh, and I see you respond to "cock-breath". Have a mint. lol

Just the sort of in depth answer I was expecting from a street whore. :lol: Try some reading, it's said to sharpen the mind.Come up with some new material. With all those posts, there's very little variation. The stupid $20 joke is wearing thin.

I called you a street whore which is more than likely the truth. What classy escort drives around in a ford fiesta. Get a grip. All you have to say to me is potato boy and cock-breath. Sort it out $20 streetwalker

[Night Rider]

OMG. You don't know me very well then. I mind my own business IRL, but when someone gets in my face, I let them have it. Oh, and I see you respond to "cock-breath". Have a mint. lol

Just the sort of in depth answer I was expecting from a street whore. :lol: Try some reading, it's said to sharpen the mind.Come up with some new material. With all those posts, there's very little variation. The stupid $20 joke is wearing thin.

I called you a street whore which is more than likely the truth. What classy escort drives around in a ford fiesta. Get a grip. All you have to say to me is potato boy and cock-breath. Sort it out $20 streetwalkerActually, I lied. I drive a pink Pacer with nitrous kit installed. lol

They haven't imported sarcasm to Ireland yet? Oh, well. Now that they have Motley Crue, it can't be far behind.

You're hilarious, I'd love to keep chatting and listen to your jokes but I've other threads to attend to. Find somebody else to stalk, I'm sure they'll appreciate you quick wit and dazzling looks.

[Felicia Katt]

It's nearly impossible to post a thread on here with most of you people turning it into a 100 page argument.

It's really ridiculous.
Its also nearly impossible to track a thread too, when all the flame threads push the real discussions off the first page or two so quickly.

FK

[gunn]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

[peggygee]

It's nearly impossible to post a thread on here with most of you people turning it into a 100 page argument.

It's really ridiculous.
Its also nearly impossible to track a thread too, when all the flame threads push the real discussions off the first page or two so quickly.

FK


Yeah 20 or so pages ago I had a response, now all I have is:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/headache.jpg

[Night Rider]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

I wouldn't treat a tgirl any different than a guy here. If that's the way you think you are one sadistic motherfucker.

[Rod la Rod]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

I wouldn't treat a tgirl any different than a guy here. If that's the way you think you are one sadistic motherfucker.

I knew you had problems NR, but how could you do that to your own penis?

[Night Rider]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

I wouldn't treat a tgirl any different than a guy here. If that's the way you think you are one sadistic motherfucker.

I knew you had problems NR, but how could you do that to your own penis?

It's not as sore as it looks and guess what......I've still got a full head of hair

No need for Propecia for me, rod la bald :mrgreen:

[Rod la Rod]

Yeah but now you need a peniplasty. Or just go ahead with a complete vaginoplasty.

I guess you win.

[gunn]

thanks night rider.coming from you thats a compliment.

[Rod la Rod]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

I wouldn't treat a tgirl any different than a guy here. If that's the way you think you are one sadistic motherfucker.

I knew you had problems NR, but how could you do that to your own penis?

It's not as sore as it looks and guess what......I've still got a full head of hair

No need for Propecia for me, rod la bald :mrgreen:

Miss Night Rider,

I want to be the first to congratulate you on your new life. Thank god that you have found the courage to go through with the final change.
I hope that you will find the happiness that you seek with your new surgical genitalia.

Maybe you should not have performed the genital surgery on yourself. However I hope that you can find that Mr. Right who will will not judge you based on your crude self surgical neo-vagina. You are a beautiful lady no matter what you actually look like. Don't let any man put you down because you are a hideous freak.

Don't let the real world interfere with your twisted fantasy. You really are a pretty girl!

Best of luck with the new Vagina Miss Shamrock. You are a real lady.

Kisses!

[Night Rider]

all im saying is keep it in the ring so we all can enjoy lol.
seriously, i think its because it turns them on.Sexualy,i realy do,to beat down an other t-girl and show her whos boss.Thats what i think.But im a pervert so go figer.

I wouldn't treat a tgirl any different than a guy here. If that's the way you think you are one sadistic motherfucker.

I knew you had problems NR, but how could you do that to your own penis?

It's not as sore as it looks and guess what......I've still got a full head of hair

No need for Propecia for me, rod la bald :mrgreen:

Miss Night Rider,

I want to be the first to congratulate you on your new life. Thank god that you have found the courage to go through with the final change.
I hope that you will find the happiness that you seek with your new surgical genitalia.

Maybe you should not have performed the genital surgery on yourself. However I hope that you can find that Mr. Right who will will not judge you based on your crude self surgical neo-vagina. You are a beautiful lady no matter what you actually look like. Don't let any man put you down because you are a hideous freak.

Don't let the real world interfere with your twisted fantasy. You really are a pretty girl!

Best of luck with the new Vagina Miss Shamrock. You are a real lady.

Kisses!

Are you on drugs or has your baldness pushed you over the edge? There are group therapy sessions to cope with your shiney head you know...


..good luck

[mbf]

@Rider and your new avatar:

when one lol just isnt enough....

[suckseed]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! BWAAAHAAHAAHAA!
Somebody backed the wrong horse...... :shock:
Karma is a bitch....

[Night Rider]

Yeah Hatton let me down, big time. What can ya do? :shrug

:sadcry

[trish]

It's nearly impossible to post a thread on here with most of you people turning it into a 100 page argument.

It's really ridiculous.
Its also nearly impossible to track a thread too, when all the flame threads push the real discussions off the first page or two so quickly.

FK


Yeah 20 or so pages ago I had a response, now all I have is:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/headache.jpg


conversation and the exchange of ideas has given way to competition and the exhange of verbal barrage. to win, you have to have the last word. it a real page generator, but not much of a page turner.

[Rod la Rod]

You really are a fresh little minx. Don't be coy. I want to be the first to bust out that new pussy you little bitch.

I am no longer ashamed of my thinning hair. I have found new courage because of your willingness to admit your true self. I no longer need the propecia to feel good about myself.

You are so brave. Congratulations on your new life.

[Night Rider]

You really are a fresh little minx. Don't be coy. I want to be the first to bust out that new pussy you little bitch.

I am no longer ashamed of my thinning hair. I have found new courage because of your willingness to admit your true self. I no longer need the propecia to feel good about myself.

You are so brave. Congratulations on your new life.

Check out your sig http://www.stop-hairloss.biz/prope-003.jpg [and you're trying to tell me you don't care] :lol:

[suckseed]

Hey - no one is sicker of the damn battle than me. I'm throwing my sword down - but not burying the hatchet.
For the rest of the month. Merry Freakin' Festivus...

[trish]

i'll get the pole out of the crawl space

[Night Rider]

Hey - no one is sicker of the damn battle than me. I'm throwing my sword down - but not burying the hatchet.
For the rest of the month. Merry Freakin' Festivus...

:?:

[Rod la Rod]

It's true. I used to live in shame. Now I realize that if you can perform your own sex change, amputate your own penis and feel good about it.

Then Fuck it! I can deal with a receding hair line. I am nowhere near as fucked up as you.

You are my hero. And I want to hit that new pussy of yours if it ever heals properly.

[Night Rider]

It's true. I used to live in shame. Now I realize that if you can perform your own sex change, amputate your own penis and feel good about it.

Then Fuck it! I can deal with a receding hair line. I am nowhere near as fucked up as you.

You are my hero. And I want to hit that new pussy of yours if it ever heals properly.

Yes, it's clear male pattern baldness has took it's toll on your mental health...

[lust4ts]

:shock: Fuck NR, they fucked you over bad with that avatar. I'm so fucking glad I didn't jump in on the bet now. Having to watch Ricky loose was bad enough, but having that avatar for a month as the consequences, I feel for you man!

[Chaotic]

Yeah Hatton let me down, big time. What can ya do? :shrug

:sadcry

Man! That's just harsh!

Shit happens! :shrug

[Night Rider]

:shock: Fuck NR, they fucked you over bad with that avatar. I'm so fucking glad I didn't jump in on the bet now. Having to watch Ricky loose was bad enough, but having that avatar for a month as the consequences, I feel for you man!

2 months actually :banghead

Yeah it's bad enough watching him lose but this rubs salt badly into the wounds

:angry

[Quinn]

:)

[suckseed]

Hey - no one is sicker of the damn battle than me. I'm throwing my sword down - but not burying the hatchet.
For the rest of the month. Merry Freakin' Festivus...

:?:

Oh, hey. Sorry, I just got on the board for the first time in a while, are you still gettin' in fights? Lol. I'm talking to anyone referring to the Honda battles.
There's nothing more to say at this point. I'd suggest we all let it go and see how it feels.

[lust4ts]

:shock: Fuck NR, they fucked you over bad with that avatar. I'm so fucking glad I didn't jump in on the bet now. Having to watch Ricky loose was bad enough, but having that avatar for a month as the consequences, I feel for you man!

2 months actually :banghead

Yeah it's bad enough watching him lose but this rubs salt badly into the wounds

:angry

Fuck man, two months, that's just crawl. At least it says that you only have it because you lost a bet. If it wasn't for the signature it could be a damn site worse!

Everytime I see your av now, I almost loose my dinner and I can't see that improving in the next two months.

There must be something you can go double or quits on. It's got to be worth a try!

[Night Rider]

Hey - no one is sicker of the damn battle than me. I'm throwing my sword down - but not burying the hatchet.
For the rest of the month. Merry Freakin' Festivus...

:?:

Oh, hey. Sorry, I just got on the board for the first time in a while, are you still gettin' in fights? Lol. I'm talking to anyone referring to the Honda battles.
There's nothing more to say at this point. I'd suggest we all let it go and see how it feels.

He hasn't been being is usual attention seeking self lately, so I've had no problems with him. The last time I think I had bother with him was in the so called "serious thread".

He hasn't been about much since Vicky left......now there's a shocker :lol:

[Night Rider]

:shock: Fuck NR, they fucked you over bad with that avatar. I'm so fucking glad I didn't jump in on the bet now. Having to watch Ricky loose was bad enough, but having that avatar for a month as the consequences, I feel for you man!

2 months actually :banghead

Yeah it's bad enough watching him lose but this rubs salt badly into the wounds

:angry

Fuck man, two months, that's just crawl. At least it says that you only have it because you lost a bet. If it wasn't for the signature it could be a damn site worse!

Everytime I see your av now, I almost loose my dinner and I can't see that improving in the next two months.

There must be something you can go double or quits on. It's got to be worth a try!

Yeah it's repulsive to say the least.

I won't be in any more avatar bets for a while. I've learned my lesson LOL

[chefmike]

Honda's method of arguing 90% of his positions goes like this:

Suckseed: Why did you break your word to stop posting in Vicki's threads Honda?

Honda: You're all trolls.

Suckseed: Why would you say you 'won' that last flame war when you clearly did not?

Honda: Have any of you ever kissed a girl?


You see, he likes to pretend that everyone that calls him on his bullshit provides him with endless entertainment. As for me, if someone says I'm wrong, I set out my argument for whatever I said or did to mount an effective rebuttal. Honda responds directly to my actual questions about 10% of the time. I wonder of his offline life is the same. Just imagine...

Honda walks into his workplace, the Quivering Colon...

Manager: You're late again. Third time this month. Remember what I told you would happen if you were late again?

Honda: This place amuses me. By all means, keep talking.

Manager: Did you replace the mop head before you did the last Jizzmop of the night last night? Because Murray The Gimp says Stall 3 is really slippery.

Honda. I molested Vicki Richter! :lol:

Manager: What's funny? Who is Vicki Richter? The men's room is out of paper towels again. And no smoking out front of the club, it affects business when people can see you. When are you going to find out which subwoofer is humming?

Honda: Wanna hear me burp my social security number?

I'd be willing to bet he was never a member of the debate club...I'm just saying.

ROTFLMAO!

[TJ347]

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:




We all know that none of the assholes on HA would open their mouths IRL the way they do here. Therefore, when the girls tell them that their mothers are crack whores, I don't want to hear about how unladylike we are. IRL, I wouldn't rub elbows with these losers long enough to hear any of their useless opinions anyway. But how sad is it that when they do have the chance to talk to us, they fuck it all up. Well they get the responses they deserve.

Interesting... I'm immediately forced to wonder whether you'd open your mouth IRL the way you do here, as well as what makes the opinions of "assholes" so useless and yours so valuable, and despite the fact I'm fairly certain that nothing good can come from asking a serious question here, I'll ask anyway in the hope of getting a better understanding.

Moving on, whether or not you, I or anyone else would have the courage to talk tough to each other IRL has nothing to do with any of us being able to make a valid point here on the board. I mean, so you wouldn't tell a guy his mother was a pathetic dickhead if he was actually standing five feet away from you instead of sitting in a chair 2,500 miles away... Does that mean you'd be any less convinced that he was a pathetic dickhead? And so, despite the fact that you clearly place a premium on your opinions and those of your sisters, the rest of us, which you'll remember includes those guys who buy your different wares and keeping you from finding a traditional 9 to 5... we have more right than anyone to voice our opinions, if only due to the fact that we are the primary financiers of the lifestyle of many a TS, be it as clients or purchasers of DVDs, gifts or whatever else have you. How many of your sisters support each other by buying DVDs or paying for sex? Exactly...

Now, if we're assholes for being assholes, that's one thing, but it seems to me that all too often with you, Kelly Shore and several other women here that we're assholes simply for being men and having the audacity to disagree with something you said, which is something else entirely. Then, we wind up arguing and it's "You don't have the right to say anything to us because you don't know what we've lived through", which is pretty much what you told Yodajazz after he made a polite comment in another thread. Hate to think what you'd have said if he'd put more of an edge on his statement, but I'm pretty sure I have a good idea. Would it be right for me to say that with that kind of bias, you get the responses you deserve? Who's to say? But it's definitely the reason behind your falling out with lust4ts, who doesn't argue with anyone other than Honda. Most telling that...

Hello? :popcornMy clients are not on this forum. The majority of guys here who get TS escorts are in NY it seems. My clients have lives and earn nice incomes. Don't put yourself in that category. This is a time killer for me, not a place to get porn and worry about what Honda did to Vicki.

Potential clients are on this forum. As I've said previously, if you haven't found any clients here, clearly it isn't because it's impossible to do so, seeing as how even Mimi Plastique has said she's found several, which is surprising given her particularly unpleasant personality. So, if you can't even find one client, while Mimi can, what can be determined from that fact? Take all the time you need to ponder that one...

Your clients "have lives and earn nice incomes"? Wow. I'm sure no other escort can say that. I mean, a guy who goes for classier women can expect to pay what? $300 and up an hour? That's about what I usually paid to see the women I saw... sometimes less to be honest, but what's $50 or $100 here or there? Being able to have done that two or three times a month without bill collectors calling in short order makes me feel I make a nice enough income, but that's subjective of course. In any event, taking your advice, I won't put myself in the "category" of your vaunted clients, all of whom I'm to understand, without any explanation on your part whatsoever, "have lives" whereas I apparently don't from where you're sitting, and make "nice" incomes whereas I'm apparently impoverished... though you've not given any indication of what a "nice" income is in your opinion. I won't even bother asking what constitutes having a life to you, seeing as how you've avoided answering my original question in large part and can only be expected to be less forthcoming or cordial from this point forward...

I don't put myself in the "category" of your vaunted clients, because I don't know them, just as you don't know me. What if I was one of your past clients? How would you know one way or the other? Or, what if I was a guy thinking about becoming one of your clients, who you just dismissed as a no-life-having scrub, unworthy of the slightest modicum of courtesy with respect to answering a sincere question? And then some of you women wonder why you don't find clients here... Couldn't be that we see all too quickly here who so many of you are outside of our scheduled sessions, now could it?

All too often, I read a post and think it's something I could have said, and wait to see what replies it will get. Imagine a potential client seeing some of the things you've said, or some of the things a few other escorts here have said in response to some well intentioned question or comment, and imagine how many of you, without knowing it, have turned away clients. I mean, any self-respecting Irishman here would have to think twice at a minimum before calling you up for an appointment after you maligned them all in pursuit of a single individual...

And that's the thing, ultimately. You're never really dissing just a single person here, because every individual who posts is representative of God knows how many who don't, or only do so rarely. Something to think about... or not.

[4ever_ngt]

:shock: I observed sometimes rather offensive behavior from my ex at times & finally concluded that the reasons were 3 fold. 1st : hormones..any vestiges of testosterone will rear their ugly head when on HRT when you dont have control of your emotions yet. 2nd : upbringing..how you were raised has a lot to do with who you became as an adult..you can take the girl out da hood but not da hood outta da girl. & 3rd : defense..it's like a shield. With all da bullshit Tg women are exposed to from lovers,clients friends, & overall hatin by the general public its very difficult not to become jaded & corse in some way & that can manifest itself sometimes though aggression . just my observation..thats all