My thoughts on AVN / TS Awards

[Vicki Richter]

Personally, I would like to see them cap the number of times someone can be nominated. This would dissuade people from nominating themselves during weak years when they aren't likely to win. The performer should also have to be in no less than 3 videos with a nomination year Date of Production in the calendar year that they were nominated. For example, and no I am not going after Buck specifically, but it looks like (on adultdvdempire) all of Buck's titles for this year were produced in 2006. If AVN did it for straight the way they do it for TS stuff, Tara Patrick and Jenna Jamison would be nominated for performer of the year every year. That would be a joke.

I mean legitimately, performer of the year is supposed to be about the body of work someone does for that year. What did that person do that was pushing the boundaries or was the best of the best in their genre. I could give a list of things I did in my scenes that fit into this criteria. That isn't me being conceited, it is me knowing the kind of movies I make, my diversity, and flexibility as a performer.

Here is an example, in my 2005 winning year, I had devirginized more GG's to TS that year than any other performer. Julie Knight, Arianna Jolie, Christie Lee, Ava Devine, Cemmy, and others. I performed in many 3-ways. I topped. I bottomed. I worked for the biggest and best companies several times. I worked with AIM tests for bareback scenes. I swallowed other people's cum. I swallowed my own cum. I worked with guys, other TS, and as stated GG's. I did gang bang movies. I was in a straight feature/gonzo. I didn't just do solo scenes or condom only scenes with a guy. What is innovative about that? What is the "best in class" for the other performers on the list for this year?

Similarly, when Vaniity won, she was pushing the boundaries hard. She was working with GG's as much as men. She did a reverse gang bang that would have been brutal for any performer. She did an Interactive that made it into a nom against mainstream performers, a feat only accomplished by one other TS to date - Danielle. She headlined/featured in almost every shemale title by Evil Angel that year. There is no question she deserved it and stood out from her peers... She nudged out Joanna that year who was doing the same type of stuff, even a double anal, and TS on TS, but for companies with less clout.

This year, two performers who meet that criteria that were not on the list were Holly Sweet and Danielle Foxxx. Both of them made some cutting edge porno this past year. They aren't sexually into other TS, but they did TS on TS scenes. They did BDSM/fetish scenes. They worked with AIM testing without condoms. This pushes our genre forward people... at least in terms of being peers with straight porn.

I would also like to see a Best TS Newcomer award category. While we don't have many newcomers in our genre, perhaps they could expand it to be the first two years of someone's career in TS. This year we would have a really tough race. Khloe, Jesse, Jade and a bunch more I am probably forgetting.

My point is, the award isn't supposed to be a popularity contest among our community or about feeding people's egos. That wasn't the spirit it was created in.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Grammy's does the same thing

folks make an album and release it in November of say '06, they might not win until '08

[tsntx]

good post

[justatransgirl]

Here is an example, in my 2005 winning year, I had devirginized more GG's to TS that year than any other performer. Julie Knight, Arianna Jolie, Christie Lee, Ava Devine, Cemmy, and others. I performed in many 3-ways. I topped. I bottomed. I worked for the biggest and best companies several times. I worked with AIM tests for bareback scenes. I swallowed other people's cum. I swallowed my own cum. I worked with guys, other TS, and as stated GG's. I did gang bang movies. I was in a straight feature/gonzo. I didn't just do solo scenes or condom only scenes with a guy.

Wow - nice to know you aren't a nasty girl or anything...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

I want to be a nasty girl too... :-)

[bezane]

Very informative. Don't know anything about the industry but I feel like I understand it better and agree. Really great point about pushing the genre forward. Don't think it's quite as relative in other genres.

Excellent darling.

[WendyWilliams]

Vicki I hope we as professionals can discuss this without our dislike for each other too come through.

My problem that I have is that you always "assume" that I nominated myself. But lets look at this. Gia Darling, Joanna Jet, and myself all own our own production company. Therefore a majority of our work is released via our own company. So if I produce a dvd that I feel was amazing and release it why shouldnt I allowed to nominate myself for that piece of work? For your information Joanna nominated me for SHemale Fetish Extreme which received 2 nominations for Most Outrageous Sex Scene and Best Transsexual Release therefore wouldnt you assume since the dvd was NOT the norm and received good praise I would be nominated. I dont see why you continue too take punches at me when I really have worked hard and try to promote our genre in a positive manner.

Last year I had more releases than any ts nominated and I must say some of my best work came from that year.

I do agree that there should be a minimum number of releases before you can get nominated and I agree with a newcomer category.

Vicki I honestly have nothing against you and in all honesty admire your work and beauty I am only human and react to your constant little slams towards me.

I hope you can atleast understand where Im coming from as a Independant Producer that if I control the majority of my releases than why wouldnt I nominate myself for a title which was NOT the case this year or last year.

Wendy

[hondarobot]

That was a lot to read before I've even had breakfast, but all good points.

[Vicki Richter]

It's about the nominating process in general. There is no criteria. I don't really know how to respond to the thing about how one perceives their own scenes. What would be neat, would be if the individual nominated could either accept or deny the nomination... based upon said criteria about only 3 noms in a lifetime. If they accept, they submit 3 pieces of their work that they considered the best they did for that calendar year. The award process is then decided based upon the outcome of a small committee's opinions of those scenes. Of course the committee's selection would have to consist of industry insiders. It would be great to see people like Seanchai, Joey, Sammy, Mark, and Bob be the four. Of course, girls would be trying to fuck the judges for favors, but then this happens in straight porn anyway.

Of course this is much too complex for the AVN to pull off and I realize that it is not going to change just because I write a stupid note on a porn site.

And Wendy, this isn't just about you. Although, I would question your other nominee selection as well. I really don't think one movie justifies nominating someone for performer of the year. Maybe you can describe what you feel she did to stretch the boundaries of porn in that release. By all appearances, you hooked up a friend instead of honored the spirit of the process. I am keeping this an open dialog, so don't get defensive.

[ironx]

.... so don't get defensive.

8) :popcorn

[goldtop]

why shouldnt I allowed to nominate myself for that piece of work?


modesty ?

[WendyWilliams]

Not being defensive at all, its nice to speak like adults LOL

I dont agree with the 3 nom limit. This is your 4th or 5th time so if you really feel as you state then you wouldnt had or been concerned when your name didnt appear on the list because I was told phonecalls were made on your behalf. I really think since our genre is so limited to a certain amount of girls it would be hard and really not fair to those of us, you and I, who put out numerous titles each year. How can we forsee what the next year will bring or what oppurtunity will come our way.

I also dont see the award as "pushing" a boundary. Kourtney starred in more than 1 title, She was in a Strokers video and 2 videos from my company. Read the review Avn gave Ultimate Texan Shemale Kourtney and apparently those who select the nominees did also. Also Allanah had only 1all feature video out and a couple strokers butI dont see you or anyone else voicing concerns. Both ladies put out a strong performance in a dvd that was totally about them, hard to keep the energy and originality going.

Also I dont agree with the commitee *sp* type thing with all being people in our genre because of the "clicks".....With a few people you named I would never have a fair chance.

Not sure what the answer is or even if there is one.

Much Respect,
Wendy

[WendyWilliams]

why shouldnt I allowed to nominate myself for that piece of work?


modesty ?


If you are going to quote me atleast do it with its intended meaning. I am stating that I own my own company and therefore most of my releases come through MY company so should Joanna, Gia and I NEVER nominate ourselves if we release a dvd we felt was up to the nomination?

I have never claimed to be something I am not nor have I EVER been naive to my looks, weight, voice, etcc but hard work and variety has kept me going for the past 3 years..So modest I am, naive I am not.

[goldtop]

Wendy

I did not mean to offend, and you strike me as quite a modest person. Nominating yourself as an individual or through a corporate vehicle is still nominating yourself.

I also think you are most attractive so this is certainly not a personal slight.

Being nominated for an award is surely a function of fans, colleagues or consumers, however addled the AVN nomination process is. Surely winning an award based on the nominations and votes of others is better than an award you nominated yourself for / angled yourself toward ?

[WendyWilliams]

MY god I neve NOMINATED myself,,I have NEVER had too..

The first year I didnt get nominated,,next year when there was only 4 of us I have no idea how my name got on the list,,last year MaleMedia nominated me and this year Joanna Jet did.

Using myself as an example was to say,,that Joanna, Gia and I should NEVER ever be nominated since we produce our own stuff? that makes no sense.

[goldtop]

Oh good grief no.

I completely misunderstood your post.

Of course you all deserve nomination, regardless of your corporate status or distribution links.

I'll shut up and creep away.

[WendyWilliams]

lol thats o.k.

I just want people to understand that with AVN a company must prenominate you. Therefore Joanna, Gia and I own and produce the majority of our own dvd's. So what Im trying to say is we should have the option to nominate a piece of work from our own company if we feel it would have a chance, thats all.

CHEERs

Ok enough of all this, LOL

[Vicki Richter]

Not being defensive at all, its nice to speak like adults LOL

I dont agree with the 3 nom limit. This is your 4th or 5th time so if you really feel as you state then you wouldnt had or been concerned when your name didnt appear on the list because I was told phonecalls were made on your behalf. I really think since our genre is so limited to a certain amount of girls it would be hard and really not fair to those of us, you and I, who put out numerous titles each year. How can we forsee what the next year will bring or what oppurtunity will come our way.

I also dont see the award as "pushing" a boundary. Kourtney starred in more than 1 title, She was in a Strokers video and 2 videos from my company. Read the review Avn gave Ultimate Texan Shemale Kourtney and apparently those who select the nominees did also. Also Allanah had only 1all feature video out and a couple strokers butI dont see you or anyone else voicing concerns. Both ladies put out a strong performance in a dvd that was totally about them, hard to keep the energy and originality going.

Also I dont agree with the commitee *sp* type thing with all being people in our genre because of the "clicks".....With a few people you named I would never have a fair chance.

Not sure what the answer is or even if there is one.

Much Respect,
Wendy

Well that isn't true. Her strokers video was 2005. In fact, like Buck, she didn't appear in a single scene that was filmed in 2007. But she should be nominated as performer of that particular year? Very silly. I am glad she was out working so hard in porn in 2007 so as to take the year off and still be nominated.

As far as your performance, you got the overall lowest scores ever on kink.com for any of their 30-40 scenes on there. Instead of taking people's critisism's to heart and trying to change things they suggest, you just defy them, berate them for their opinions, and then try to tell them why you are good. A performer of the year doesn't have to tell people they are good, they just are.

As far as Joanna nominating you. I don't know that is or isn't true. Joanna is an excellent judge of talent. If she thought you were great, she would be fucking you, not nominating you. At least that was my experience. What movie does Joanna fuck you Wendy?

[WendyWilliams]

See Vicki you as always turn this personal. You cant carry out a conversation no matter how civil I am being.

And as far as your Kink.com line that is not true and Im not going to debate you about it. I am HAPPY with who I am, I dont feel or want to change things that others tell me I NEED to change to make THEM happy, It took me a long time to understand that. People are more than happy to their opinion. If I was so horrible then why was I asked to return?
Finally about Joanna, I dont do ts on ts work and plus we are very close friends and I could never fuck a fellow ts especially someone I am close too.

I give up on trying to be civil with you. Im not going to sit and attack you so if that is what you are trying to get me to do then so be it. As you said its just an award right? You do what you do and Ill do the same. Its all about being happy and I am very blessed. May you be too!

Wendy

[Night Rider]

:popcorn

[Vicki Richter]

I was just going by the 1-5 ratings that people give the scenes after watching them. Anyone who is a member there can look at these ratings. If you took out the 5's that you had given yourself every time you responded to people complaining, you had the lowest scores overall of any other scene on there. You saying it isn't true is like telling everyone that the color of the ocean is pink.

Now, I am not saying you did perform poorly. I am just reporting on the results I saw from the user base. This is not an attack at all. It just talks of how self perception might not be the best way to nominate someone.

Now on to the TS on TS thing... Didn't you fuck Joselyn Pink on film or at least get a BJ from her? What would the main difference be from fucking a guy, girl or a TS? I see TS as women, not something different that deserves to be treated differently. TS on TS is lesbian TS.

Can someone name one nominated GG performer or superstar who doesn't ever do lesbian scenes?

[Vicki Richter]

My last couple comments here.

Wendy - nothing in this thread was intended as an attack against you. You may perceive it that way, but I look at it as open discussion/debate.

In general, I hear a lot of fan commentary on porn. I hear a lot of fans saying how great Yasmin Lee's scenes are... a lot. They talk about the energy and her on screen persona. Danielle hired her and thought she was fantastic.

I hear directors saying what great scenes Khloe and Jade do and see them scrambling to hire them. I knew they would both be huge stars. If people recall I compared Khloe to Vaniity and said she could become that huge in time. I still believe that. Jade is only geographically challenged to become much bigger in adult.

Allanah doesn't do much adult, but when she is in a scene people tend to be a bit starstruck by her presence on the dvd. She has excellent performance.

Still, Danielle Foxxx at her best can and has outperformed anyone in TS adult. She is the best. If girls want to see what to aspire to or who to learn from, watch a Danielle Foxxx scene. That is why her Interactive has sold more than mine, Vaniity's, and Gia's. In fact, both of her Interactive DVD's - where people are buying the dvd's just for that performer, have outsold all others sometimes by a factor of 2x or 3x. How do we justify not having her nominated? I don't get it.

I think Danielle and Joanna are the biggest stars to never receive recognition. I'm sorry, but Buck has never once matched the intensity of a Danielle Foxxx scene. Watching her fuck Belladonna and Arianna was like watching a work of art being created.

[graphix35]

don't beat me but as a fan i am going to be at the avn's this year (i'm an avn virgin) will you be signing or there? i would love to meet you! and it seems almost every award show is flawed in some way, be it who "pays" to have nominations, who they work for, etc. but i totally agree with you.

[Quinn]

From my perspective – and this isn’t directed against anyone in particular – is that any award you can nominate yourself for is essentially meaningless to win. Then again, I don’t really know all that much about the industry in question, so my opinion is equally meaningless.

-Quinn

[bezane]

Like I stated before, Don't know anything about the industry. But in a different sense I know much. Being a Las Vegas resident for awhile I've attended the last three award shows here. Both the convention and the ceremony. Once with my TS girl that wasn't nominated and now stays away from the business and twice with my GG girl that hangs with the Club Jenna crowd being from here in the desert and all. So I'll throw an observation or two, with the disclaimer that I've never got involved in my girls business affairs or could care less about the business.

The convention is usually a bit of a fan frenzy. Lots of girls (and guys) come to support their careers often for a day to pose for photos and such. Lots of print girls. Lots video stars. With the serious interest from fans it takes on a very fun but business atmosphere. The larger production companies and magazines try to dominate but many upstarts and independents steal the show. Lots of rules for them to live by on the floor so they are sucking cock in the aisles. It can be fun. But it's hard work for the performers. Signing, posing and for many jockeying for position.

Then the awards. By this time I notice after a few days of lots of drugs, alcohol, and partying has set in, you end up dealing with lots of outrageous behavior. Girls accepting their awards and thanking their Moms always gets lots of laughs. But the tone I noticed is not so serious. Almost tongue and cheek. And definitely more of a promotion vehicle for companies like any award show but this is over the top.

Then the TS portion. Not really given much attention by the rest of the show attendees. Treated almost like second class citizens. And here's where Vicki's thread should resonate more with everyone. For the longest time TS porn seemed like just putting on a circus. Look at most of the old titles. An hour of girls that hardly can perform and you hardly could build a sweat. Now you have girls that are starting to do work that captures the imagination. They're erotic. You watch them and no matter what you're into you can't help to assume the energy on screen. I don't watch much porn. It has been around my life and I just don't do that much. But even my GG watched Danielle and was down right jealous. She's beautiful and my girl just can't compete with a TS. Not just an empty chick. But a feminine, bright eyed, eager vixen with a hard cock.

So Vicki sticks her neck out and challenges the rest of the industry to not just sleep walk through it all, but to be serious and strive for and promote those rising to the occasion. I agree. The industry can only get better and bigger if more people use the products and that will be because new and shining examples of work come to the forefront.

As far as the Kink.com stuff. Well like a sport or anything there are statistics. like your batting average or hate it it's there. And while I'm not familiar with it I imagine that even being rated by it puts you in the better portion of the league. So no knock to low scores in most cases.

[Vicki Richter]

Thank you. Nice posting. I do stick my neck out and that is why a lot of girls just despise me most of the time. I will say publicly what other girls will say only behind closed doors to one another... what even many top directors will say behind closed doors.

I agree... Getting TS into AVN was nice, but we are still a long ways out, despite the money we make for the powers that be. I spoke out last year about Buck because, frankly, he isn't really part of this community. He isn't what fans of the genre think about or want to think about. We put a gay man into the TS Performer of the Year slot and doing so made it more about being Gender Fuck of the Year instead of TS Performer of the Year. This was no different than a F2M asking to compete in any one of these Miss Gay pagents from my perspective. To have him win, when his performing constituted perhaps .001% of the total revenue of the Transsexual Adult Market was just wrong. I mean, Danielle was ass fucking Belladonna and outselling TaraVision with her Interactive. Is he a good performer? Yes. But he doesn't belong competing against women.

[hondarobot]

Buck is gay? I didn't know that. Still, he is a person who has corrected their birth gender. I do consider Buck Angel to be TS. Gay or not, keeping him out of the nomination process is not fair.

I suppose, though, that Buck Angel should be more part of the gay awards hoopla.

[suckseed]

Vicki, it's been said before - there should be a f2m category, but there aren't enough performers to justify it. Therefore, Buck may be getting attention simply for the relative novelty of it. In the end, though, does it really affect anyone? I'm not much of a porn consumer, but I never went looking for which dvd had gotten an award. I think for most people, being into the looks of the performer is everything.

[hondarobot]

Vicki, it's been said before - there should be a f2m category, but there aren't enough performers to justify it. Therefore, Buck may be getting attention simply for the relative novelty of it. In the end, though, does it really affect anyone? I'm not much of a porn consumer, but I never went looking for which dvd had gotten an award. I think for most people, being into the looks of the performer is everything.

What was that band you were in? Heavy on the ballads, I'd bet.

[GroobySteven]

Where does it say a performer has to have a body of work? Like any other awards (Acadamy, Emmy, Grammy, Brits, etc) it's usually based on one performance in which they shine.
Just because you take cum in your ass (AIM'd or not, your still tossing a coin onto what you could catch and I don't see how that pushes the genre forward?) or break in a girl, doesn't make you the best performer the same as those "two girls one cup" shouldn't be nominated for best performance. If there was a "groundbreaking TS scene" then it should be there.

I do agree that the lists, as usual are a bit fucked up and I was going to mention Buck but I took a cursory look at his website and I thought some of his DVD's came out in 2007. If they didn't, then he should not have been nominated. I also agree that people shouldn't be able to nominate themselves with the current set up of production companies working to get their stars promoted, it's hardly surprising.

The nominations I put in, were for models that we'd worked with whom I thought give excellent performances in a specific production. Newcomers or not, it's regardless.' I had probably 30+ I could have nominated this year but it wasn't hard to choose the few we did nominate.

Until a proper fan based awards comes into play, you can whine about it as much as you want - in the same way I whine year after year that the AVN's are all about the advertising dollar - that's how it is.

seanchai

[WendyWilliams]

SO Seanchai then who nominated me, Gia, or Joanna if we dont work for another company and put releases out only through our company? Are we just shit out of luck because we are performers who own our own production company??

It really doesnt matter I guess no matter who wins, is nominated or suggested there will be some type of controversy.

Wendy

[hondarobot]

Where does it say a performer has to have a body of work? Like any other awards (Acadamy, Emmy, Grammy, Brits, etc) it's usually based on one performance in which they shine.
Just because you take cum in your ass (AIM'd or not, your still tossing a coin onto what you could catch and I don't see how that pushes the genre forward?) or break in a girl, doesn't make you the best performer the same as those "two girls one cup" shouldn't be nominated for best performance. If there was a "groundbreaking TS scene" then it should be there.

I do agree that the lists, as usual are a bit fucked up and I was going to mention Buck but I took a cursory look at his website and I thought some of his DVD's came out in 2007. If they didn't, then he should not have been nominated. I also agree that people shouldn't be able to nominate themselves with the current set up of production companies working to get their stars promoted, it's hardly surprising.

The nominations I put in, were for models that we'd worked with whom I thought give excellent performances in a specific production. Newcomers or not, it's regardless.' I had probably 30+ I could have nominated this year but it wasn't hard to choose the few we did nominate.

Until a proper fan based awards comes into play, you can whine about it as much as you want - in the same way I whine year after year that the AVN's are all about the advertising dollar - that's how it is.

seanchai

It's pretty clear that the TS catagory will remain in the basement with other "fetish" catagories as far as AVN is concerned. As you say, someone should organize a seperate awards system.

Actually, that was your idea awhile ago. Let's do it. Why not?

[GroobySteven]

SO Seanchai then who nominated me, Gia, or Joanna if we dont work for another company and put releases out only through our company? Are we just shit out of luck because we are performers who own our own production company??

It really doesnt matter I guess no matter who wins, is nominated or suggested there will be some type of controversy.

Wendy

I've no idea who nominated you? I only know who I nominated.
If you (or Gia or Joanna) truly believed you were the best performers in your productions that year and that you deserved to win an AVN award, then I'd have no issue under the current way it seems to be ran, for you nominating yourself.
This is why it needs a more independant body. There should be a cap on the amount of nominees a year also - no more than 5 in any one category.

[Ratbutt]

Something about the phrase "stretched the boundaries of porn" really got me into this thread.

Anyway, we just want to see you girls having fun, being safe & getting paid. Keep it moving!

[puddinfoot]

I think Jennifer Paris could push the industry forward if she went public with her dick!

[tsntx]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

[YasminLee]

I AGREE WITH VICKI, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE DANIELLE MY SPOT. SHE'S AN AMAZING PERFORMER ABOVE ANYONE ON THAT LIST. I'M VERY HONORED TO BE NOMINATED BUT CAN'T BATHE MYSELF IN ITS GLORY BECAUSE I QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF THE FAIRNESS OF THAT LIST.
AND AS FOR BUCK, I DON'T FEEL THAT'S IT'S FAIR HE'S COMPETING AGAINST THE GIRLS. MAYBE AN AWARD OF RECOGNITION ON ITS OWN OR SOMETHING. THERE'S NO FAIR WAY TO COMPARE HIS WORK AND OURS. HIS VIDEOS AND UNIQUENESS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT MARKET

[Vicki Richter]

Where does it say a performer has to have a body of work? Like any other awards (Acadamy, Emmy, Grammy, Brits, etc) it's usually based on one performance in which they shine.
Just because you take cum in your ass (AIM'd or not, your still tossing a coin onto what you could catch and I don't see how that pushes the genre forward?) or break in a girl, doesn't make you the best performer the same as those "two girls one cup" shouldn't be nominated for best performance. If there was a "groundbreaking TS scene" then it should be there.

seanchai

I am coming out of my lengthy posting retirement to respond to you Seanchai. It is 100% about a body of work versus and not an individual scene for the Performer of the Year award. At AVN, they have individual scene awards for "best sex scene" "most outrageous sex scene" "best anal scene", "best oral sex scene", "best group scene" etc etc

http://www.avnawards.com/index.php?content=nominees

The performer of the year is absolutely about the accomplishments of a performer over the span of the year. It is not a solitary sex scene award. They have those.

Your comments about the bareback scenes are fair. However, it wasn't so long ago that TS could only work with condoms like a lot of gay enterprise. Now we are working with popular GG performers on equal footing with other male and female performers... not like a third class. If we were confined to working with condoms whenever we worked with these people, while they openly worked bareback with fellow performers in the "straight" world, what does that say about TS? To me is says, "disease ridden 2nd class filth". So yes, it does push the genre forward. Of course it doesn't make someone the best just because they do this, but I think you would be hard pressed to convince anyone that the fans don't want to see it... or prefer to see it. What is a performer's job if not to please the fans? Safety is important, but I put full trust in an AIM test - which has proven equally reliable to condoms (percentage-wise, per sex act) in preventing the spread of HIV.

[Vicki Richter]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

You're like Grumpy the dwarf and you are usually wrong. If suddenly all these B actors started being nominated for the Academy Award - like Mark Walhberg's brother for example, it would deteriorate the value of the award. It's like - and the nominees are Brad Pitt, Samuel L Jackson, Al Pacino, and Donny Wahlberg for his performance in "Where is my trash can". If you do that over and over again, people are going to look at it like a big joke and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to win one anymore. In some cases the equivolent in our genre isn't even a B actor like Wahlberg. It's like some random girl in Texas Chain Saw Massacre #3 getting a nomination for the Academy Award.

[hondarobot]

"Where is my trash can" is actually a pretty good title for a movie.

:lol:

[GroobySteven]

The performer of the year is absolutely about the accomplishments of a performer over the span of the year. It is not a solitary sex scene award. They have those.

Your comments about the bareback scenes are fair. However, it wasn't so long ago that TS could only work with condoms like a lot of gay enterprise. Now we are working with popular GG performers on equal footing with other male and female performers... not like a third class.

Thanks for coming out of retirement Vicki, glad to see I have some influence over you ;-)

I've never read anywhere that the Best Performer is for a body of work (or that it's for a single scene) and would love to see the clarification of this although I doubt AVN would publish this, as it would affect their otherwise, biased judgement.

It's a fair point on the condom scenes - I'm actually for the opposite, I still think most porn should be condomed. It might not be exactly what the fans want but if they weren't given the choice, then they wouldn't think that it was acceptive and normal to have risky sex without a condom.
I don't have the facts but I can't believe an AIM test is as safe as condoms. All it takes is that performer to have sex with an infected individual after the test but before the performance.
seanchai

[YasminLee]

I AGREE WITH YOU SEANCHAI WITH THE ACCURACY OF AIM TEST VS CONDOM. WE DO HAVE TO TAKE TO ACCOUNT THAT WE ARE TAKING RISKS WHEN SHOOTING BAREBACK. VICKI MADE A VERY STRONG POINT ABOUT PEOPLE VIEW TS BB AS A TABOO AND NOT ST8. THE RISK ARE EQUAL IN THE ST8 HAD SHOOTING AS IT IS IN OURS. HENCE, THAT'S WHY WE GO GET TESTED. I SHOT BB AND THAT'S MY PERSONAL CHOICE. THE FAN NEED TOUNDERSTAND AND I KNOW THEY DO THAT THESE MOVIES ARE SEXUAL FANTASIES...IT'S NOT OUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO BABYSIT KNOWLEDGEABLE GROWN MEN IN SOMETHING THIS OBVIOUS...

THAT BEING SAID, HERE IS WHAT I DO FOR MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP. I HAVE TO ADMIT I LOVE BB WITH MY BF AND SAD THAT WE CAN'T DO IT OFTEN BECAUSE OF MY PROFESSION. WE ONLY DONE IT A HANDFUL OF TIMES AND ONLY WHEN I HAD TAKEN A BREAK FROM WORK AND FRESHLY GOT TESTED SO THE WINDOW PERIOD FAVORS US. I BB IN MY PERSONAL LIFE WITH SOMEONE I LOVE. AT THE SAME TIME IT'S MY JOB AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE I PROTECT THE ONE I LOVE.

[Steve-Oh]

I can't believe this heated discussion about who had the "best anal scene".

[ARMANIXXX]

I have to admit that I don't know anything about the porn industry or the AVN awards. I don't know how or why it works, and I don't know why it makes all of you so crazy year in and year out, but I do know one thing............




























Buck keeps whoopin that ass.

LOL

[tsntx]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

You're like Grumpy the dwarf and you are usually wrong. If suddenly all these B actors started being nominated for the Academy Award - like Mark Walhberg's brother for example, it would deteriorate the value of the award. It's like - and the nominees are Brad Pitt, Samuel L Jackson, Al Pacino, and Donny Wahlberg for his performance in "Where is my trash can". If you do that over and over again, people are going to look at it like a big joke and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to win one anymore. In some cases the equivolent in our genre isn't even a B actor like Wahlberg. It's like some random girl in Texas Chain Saw Massacre #3 getting a nomination for the Academy Award.

what i said has nothing to do w/ anything you said.... i was referring to the fact regardless of HOW you got nominated... not WHO got nominated... as far as that "quick wit" statement... way to prove 'em wrong killer

[ARMANIXXX]

Just out of curiosity,

Does a NOMINATION without an actual win up ones earning potentiality/asking fee's?

[Vicki Richter]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

You're like Grumpy the dwarf and you are usually wrong. If suddenly all these B actors started being nominated for the Academy Award - like Mark Walhberg's brother for example, it would deteriorate the value of the award. It's like - and the nominees are Brad Pitt, Samuel L Jackson, Al Pacino, and Donny Wahlberg for his performance in "Where is my trash can". If you do that over and over again, people are going to look at it like a big joke and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to win one anymore. In some cases the equivolent in our genre isn't even a B actor like Wahlberg. It's like some random girl in Texas Chain Saw Massacre #3 getting a nomination for the Academy Award.

what i said has nothing to do w/ anything you said.... i was referring to the fact regardless of HOW you got nominated... not WHO got nominated... as far as that "quick wit" statement... way to prove 'em wrong killer

Well my point has been made. The fact that you don't believe what I said had anything to do with your comment proves that you are not capable of defending yourself on equal footing with me. They don't teach reading comprehension 101 in beauty college.

[Vicki Richter]

Yasmin/Seanchai...

If you look at the total number of HIV infections in the adult industry and equate it to the number of bareback sex acts over the life of AIM testing, it is somewhere greater than 99.9% prevention. That is as effective as a condom, maybe better. Condoms don't guard 100% against the spread of HIV either.

I think it would actually be greater than 99.99% prevention rate for AIM testing in adult. If there have been 4 known HIV cases spawned out of the adult industry in the past 5 years, and there have been 40,000 scenes in that time period, I would be correct.

500 straight releases a month. Average of 4 scenes a movie = 2000 scenes a month or 24,000 a year... Since some of those movies are condom only and some are lesbian, etc I think cutting that number to even 15,000 scenes (or sex acts) a year is reasonable.

How can you say a condom is more reliable than those numbers? The facts are that they are not more reliable. AIM does have a failure window, but it is very rarely a problem, even with all the excessive drug users and prostitutes in the cess pool that is porn.

[Clind]

:sleep

[tsntx]

a nomination doesnt equal a win... so why the confussion or bitching about how someone gets nominated? if they win from that nomination obviously the people w/ power felt the nomination was accurate, right? so stfu.

You're like Grumpy the dwarf and you are usually wrong. If suddenly all these B actors started being nominated for the Academy Award - like Mark Walhberg's brother for example, it would deteriorate the value of the award. It's like - and the nominees are Brad Pitt, Samuel L Jackson, Al Pacino, and Donny Wahlberg for his performance in "Where is my trash can". If you do that over and over again, people are going to look at it like a big joke and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to win one anymore. In some cases the equivolent in our genre isn't even a B actor like Wahlberg. It's like some random girl in Texas Chain Saw Massacre #3 getting a nomination for the Academy Award.

what i said has nothing to do w/ anything you said.... i was referring to the fact regardless of HOW you got nominated... not WHO got nominated... as far as that "quick wit" statement... way to prove 'em wrong killer

Well my point has been made. The fact that you don't believe what I said had anything to do with your comment proves that you are not capable of defending yourself on equal footing with me. They don't teach reading comprehension 101 in beauty college.

wtf are you talking about?? i just said you missed the point of what i was saying and made youre reply about something totally different only to come back and again not acknowledge what i stated in the first post.... obviously all your years as a whore fucked up the teaching you were taught too dear. anyway werent you leaving?

[hondarobot]

Knock it off. It's not like dating or escorting is anything new to most anyone here.

[help!!!]

is it just me or is honda in every vicki post?

[YasminLee]

vicki sweetie, there are other variables we have to consider... for exp. we get tested onces a month...the test has a 10 to 14 days window period. all it takes is one time in that window period..i do feel however...having bb sex in porn is definately safer than a random girl at a bar saying she's clean and on birth-control.

[chefmike]

is it just me or is honda in every vicki post?

He's a batshit crazy stalker who probably should have been drowned at birth...

[chefmike]

is it just me or is honda in every vicki post?

It's a good thing for tardbot the jizzmopper that he wasn't born a hundred years ago...because they would have just kept his crazy ass up locked up in the basement like Boo Radley...which BTW is where the demented little freak belongs...