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justatransgirl
11-30-2007, 11:04 PM
One of our members sent me this question. I thought it deserved it's own thread...

"I read this phrase all the time. Just what exactly is an upscale gentelman as it applies to clients? Someone with all their finger and toes?"

To me an upscale gentleman is any man with a penis and 100 bucks who isn't currently tweaking... arms, legs, fingers, toes are optional...
:-) Giggle.

Seriously though, he's a classy guy who opens the door for you, doesn't pull your hair and force his cock down your throat unless you like it that way (I do... giggle). He's a guy who doesn't argue about price and gives you a bit more than you expect because he likes you and wants you to feel really good about dating him. He's a guy who takes a bath and brushes his teeth before a date... etc. He's a guy you like to see and be around and who you want to have sex with again.

What is a upscale gentleman to you?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

mbf
11-30-2007, 11:07 PM
the total opposite of ME...

Quiet Reflections
11-30-2007, 11:24 PM
A true upscale gentleman doesnt argue price because true upscale gentleman wouldn't pay for sex. any lowlife on payday can fit your description but when a real one comes along you will know. heres a hint... he wont be a client. not that people that pay are wrong for it but having money,being polite, and cleaning yourself wont make you upscale. you just wont be a dirty,broke,rude loser

ironx
11-30-2007, 11:34 PM
Read Allanah's post.. upscale simply means:
I'm doing well enough now to ask 5 times as much... so less clientele.. same money, more time to do much more fun things.. or did you expect the ladies to really love doing a guy they never saw before ?

So upscale is when you can afford to pay a lot more... right ?

62des
11-30-2007, 11:35 PM
In other words "rich and a wimp who's willing to pay more than the actual price." Damn I am such a hater. lol

justatransgirl
11-30-2007, 11:35 PM
A true upscale gentleman wouldn't pay for sex.

That's not true honey. I know a LOT of fine gentlemen who don't have a problem with helping a girl out. Most are in situations they can't change (marraige, kids, etc). There's really not a lot of difference between whether you pay my rent, or give me to money pay it myself.

A lot of men, particularly men who enjoy sex with transsexuals don't necessarily want to do it all the time, and may not want a LTR or "out" relationship. They just want a hook up, not to get married. An upscale gentleman doesn't use a girl for sex without taking care of her.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Cheapskates need not apply... :-)

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 11:39 PM
That's not true honey. I know a LOT of fine gentlemen who don't have a problem with helping a girl out. Most are in situations they can't change (marraige, kids, etc).

Yeah, because if you're cheating on your wife you're a true upscale gentleman

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-30-2007, 11:40 PM
Upscale = More $$ to burn (no haggling). It might also mean/refer to OLDER men. ;)

So basically, an upscale gentleman is just sugar coating for someone who is RICH and OLD.

~Kisses.

HTG

mbf
11-30-2007, 11:41 PM
someone who is RICH and OLD.



thats my life ambition..... :shock:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-30-2007, 11:43 PM
someone who is RICH and OLD.



thats my life ambition..... :shock:

LOL Well that's better than being called a "Broke Dirty Old man" eh? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

mbf
11-30-2007, 11:45 PM
someone who is RICH and OLD.



thats my life ambition..... :shock:

LOL Well that's better than being called a "Broke Dirty Old man" eh? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

I am SO sure it will have "Drity" in it in some forms.... :lol:

Quiet Reflections
11-30-2007, 11:48 PM
A true upscale gentleman wouldn't pay for sex.

That's not true honey. I know a LOT of fine gentlemen who don't have a problem with helping a girl out. Most are in situations they can't change (marraige, kids, etc). There's really not a lot of difference between whether you pay my rent, or give me to money pay it myself.

A lot of men, particularly men who enjoy sex with transsexuals don't necessarily want to do it all the time, and may not want a LTR or "out" relationship. They just want a hook up, not to get married. An upscale gentleman doesn't use a girl for sex without taking care of her.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Cheapskates need not apply... :-)

i have no problem helping out someone that needs cash but never for sex. i will rely on my own merits for that. and im not saying that you need a ltr to have sex,or be out, or want to do it all the time, i just think if a real man wants to have sex with a girl he should try and use his words not his wallet. I love one nightstands just not for money. you know it is possible to get money , have sex and be friends with someone without those things being connected.

im no cheapskate but i have what i have because im smart with money!!

AllanahStarrNYC
11-30-2007, 11:51 PM
Does this question really need to be asked?

What is the difference between Neiman Marcus and K Mart?

Like anything in life- there are upscale luxuries that some people can afford. One does not buy a Ferrari because one has to, it's because one can.

Being upscale has nothing to do with age- it just means being able to afford it. I have had a lot of what would be considered younger upscale clients.

To me the term means someone who is able to afford you, has manners, is polite. and treats you well and exceeds your expectatios- IN TERMS OF CLIENTELLE.

Hiring an escort is a luxury- and just like all luxuries they come at different values, classes, and service. For some being able to eat at Mcdonald's is a luxury for others it's Nobu.

It does not make anyone better than anyone else- you are simply implying what you are looking for...

And what is so wrong with that?

justatransgirl
11-30-2007, 11:54 PM
Great post Allanah.

Giggle - guess I opened a can of worms... good :-)



i have no problem helping out someone that needs cash but never for sex.

Oh goody... honey will you help me out. I need a new car. And upscale gentleman would buy me a red Cadillac CTS with a white leather interior... and I'll be really sweet and nice to you... and you don't even have to have sex with me.




someone who is RICH and OLD.



thats my life ambition..... :shock:

LOL Well that's better than being called a "Broke Dirty Old man" eh? :lol:


HTG has a point - an upscale gentleman doesn't let money worry him, so long as he gets what he want's. The Dirty Old Man can be found behind the glory hole at your local nasty book store, saving his money...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

xrey
11-30-2007, 11:55 PM
Does this question really need to be asked?

What is the difference between Neiman Marcus and K Mart?

Like anything in life- there are upscale luxuries that some people can afford. One does not buy a Ferrari because one has to, it's because one can.

Being upscale has nothing to do with age- it just means being able to afford it. I have had a lot of what would be considered younger upscale clients.

To me the term means someone who is able to afford you, has manners, is polite. and treats you well and exceeds your expectatios- IN TERMS OF CLIENTELLE.

Hiring an escort is a luxury- and just like all luxuries they come at different values, classes, and service. For some being able to eat at Mcdonald's is a luxury for others it's Nobu.

It does not make anyone better than anyone else- you are simply implying what you are looking for...

And what is so wrong with that?

No need to add to Allanah's perfect definition!!!!

AllanahStarrNYC
11-30-2007, 11:57 PM
A true upscale gentleman wouldn't pay for sex.

That's not true honey. I know a LOT of fine gentlemen who don't have a problem with helping a girl out. Most are in situations they can't change (marraige, kids, etc). There's really not a lot of difference between whether you pay my rent, or give me to money pay it myself.

A lot of men, particularly men who enjoy sex with transsexuals don't necessarily want to do it all the time, and may not want a LTR or "out" relationship. They just want a hook up, not to get married. An upscale gentleman doesn't use a girl for sex without taking care of her.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Cheapskates need not apply... :-)

i have no problem helping out someone that needs cash but never for sex. i will rely on my own merits for that. and im not saying that you need a ltr to have sex,or be out, or want to do it all the time, i just think if a real man wants to have sex with a girl he should try and use his words not his wallet. I love one nightstands just not for money. you know it is possible to get money , have sex and be friends with someone without those things being connected.

im no cheapskate but i have what i have because im smart with money!!

You are mistaken in your assumption.

You have every right to have your reasons not to hire an escort-
but why look down on people who do?

People hire escorts for a HUGE variety of reasons. It's much more complex than just 'having sex' .

Quiet Reflections
12-01-2007, 12:04 AM
Does this question really need to be asked?

What is the difference between Neiman Marcus and K Mart?

Like anything in life- there are upscale luxuries that some people can afford. One does not buy a Ferrari because one has to, it's because one can.

Being upscale has nothing to do with age- it just means being able to afford it. I have had a lot of what would be considered younger upscale clients.

To me the term means someone who is able to afford you, has manners, is polite. and treats you well and exceeds your expectatios- IN TERMS OF CLIENTELLE.

Hiring an escort is a luxury- and just like all luxuries they come at different values, classes, and service. For some being able to eat at Mcdonald's is a luxury for others it's Nobu.

It does not make anyone better than anyone else- you are simply implying what you are looking for...

And what is so wrong with that?

far be it from me to argue with the almighty allanah but i have to say that most flashy people buy stuff like that when they are trying to be something they are not. being able to afford something expensive does not grant someone taste or status most of the time it makes them pompous chav's. most expensive stuff is cheap shit with different tags and people dont buy that crap because they can, they buy it because others cant.

Of course some people buy things because they want to be flashy- why not?

And there are also a lot of wealthy people in the world who are very understated.

Life should be all about pleasing yourself when you can and being able to do things that make you happy.

Dkg
12-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Does this question really need to be asked?

What is the difference between Neiman Marcus and K Mart?

Like anything in life- there are upscale luxuries that some people can afford. One does not buy a Ferrari because one has to, it's because one can.

Being upscale has nothing to do with age- it just means being able to afford it. I have had a lot of what would be considered younger upscale clients.

To me the term means someone who is able to afford you, has manners, is polite. and treats you well and exceeds your expectatios- IN TERMS OF CLIENTELLE.

Hiring an escort is a luxury- and just like all luxuries they come at different values, classes, and service. For some being able to eat at Mcdonald's is a luxury for others it's Nobu.

It does not make anyone better than anyone else- you are simply implying what you are looking for...

And what is so wrong with that?

Why exactly is an escort a "luxury"? Because they are [usually] good looking? I know a lot of good looking women I could possibly be with, but I don't have to pay to be with them. Just asking an honest question.

AllanahStarrNYC
12-01-2007, 12:17 AM
An escort is a luxury because as per the definition of 'luxury' it is:

1. Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.

2. Something expensive or hard to obtain.

PS. Not all escorts are attractive.

ironx
12-01-2007, 12:56 AM
An escort is a luxury because as per the definition of 'luxury' it is:

1. Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.

2. Something expensive or hard to obtain.

PS. Not all escorts are attractive.

And some try to scare you with spiders and stuff :P :P

alphanumeric
12-01-2007, 01:26 AM
I can't remember who sang it or the title but there was a song back a few years that summed up north american attitudes towards money quite succinctly

"money can't buy you happiness, but I'm happiest when I can buy what I want whenever I want however I want."

thx1138
12-01-2007, 01:57 AM
upscale gentleman = a client that an escort would be very happy to see a second time.

onthefence
12-01-2007, 02:22 AM
I'm wonder.....if an upscal gentleman is often (but not always) older; please define older.

Rod la Rod
12-01-2007, 02:23 AM
An upscale gentleman; generally includes some drool, and a bib.

Maybe some rice pudding, a donut and a baby spoon.

ottorocket
12-01-2007, 02:27 AM
Ready?

Ecstatic
12-01-2007, 03:13 AM
Upscale = More $$ to burn (no haggling). It might also mean/refer to OLDER men. ;)

So basically, an upscale gentleman is just sugar coating for someone who is RICH and OLD.

~Kisses.

HTG
How's one out of two, Hara? ;)

(And no, I'm not rich....)

justatransgirl
12-01-2007, 04:30 AM
(And no, I'm not rich....)

Yes, but you've got class...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Hara_Juku Tgirl
12-01-2007, 04:30 AM
An upscale gentleman; generally includes some drool, and a bib.

Maybe some rice pudding, a donut and a baby spoon.

LOL You mean geriatrics Rod la Rod? :lol:

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara_Juku Tgirl
12-01-2007, 04:31 AM
Upscale = More $$ to burn (no haggling). It might also mean/refer to OLDER men. ;)

So basically, an upscale gentleman is just sugar coating for someone who is RICH and OLD.

~Kisses.

HTG
How's one out of two, Hara? ;)

(And no, I'm not rich....)

Of course Ecstatic! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

ezed
12-01-2007, 04:39 AM
AN UPSCALE GENTLEMAN - A guy pushing 300 pounds, dressed in a suit who has an affinity for fine cigars. (1)

(1) Webster's

Steve-Oh
12-01-2007, 04:45 AM
Does being an upscale gentleman make me gay?

justatransgirl
12-01-2007, 04:46 AM
No Rod... your photo of Anna Nicole and what's his name... is a golddigger and a sucker.

What's so funny is that cute guy that bopped Anna is going to end up with all the loot - is that poetic justice or what?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Rod la Rod
12-01-2007, 05:01 AM
What is really, really funny, (and ironic), is the fact that not only was Larry Birkhead a celebrity photographer, but it is fairly well established that he was a gay hustler and may have had a homosexual affair with Howard K. Stern.

I think the "Barbara Eden" nose job says it all.


[edit] References


"He is currently considering suing various tabloids which ran a story in which male model Kerrick Ross claims Birkhead is either gay or bisexual, and that they had sex on numerous occasions during a month long relationship in the 90s. Ross claims that Birkhead has never come out of the closet. Birkhead has hired lawyer Marty Singer to sue for defamation.[8]"


"Another claim of his alleged homosexuality came out again on September 3, 2007. A new book by journalist Rita Cosby, Blonde Ambition, alleges that Birkhead and Howard K. Stern were lovers. It is also claimed that there is a sex tape of the two. Cosby has claimed to have never seen the tape, nor has the tape been made public. She claims that she has plans to back her sources who claim they walked in on Stern and Birkhead. Both Stern and Birkhead have said they plan to sue."

trish
12-01-2007, 07:07 AM
In other words "rich and a wimp who's willing to pay more than the actual price." Damn I am such a hater. lol

this is just communist propaganda. what do mean by the real price, if not the price as determined by market value? if a girl can charge more and get it, then what she's selling is worth more. that's capitalism, pure and simple. if you can't afford it, buy cheap. if you're not in the market for an escort, then you're not in the market, fine...but it doesn't make you a man...it just makes you uninteresting to girls are looking to make some money.

Trogdor
12-01-2007, 07:13 AM
Upscale Gentleman......

2 words:

Friends Zone ~plays horror music~

tsntx
12-01-2007, 07:19 AM
To me an upscale gentleman is any man with a penis and __whatever_the_price_is_here__ who isn't currently tweaking... arms, legs, fingers, toes are optional...
:-) Giggle.

Seriously though, he's a classy guy who opens the door for you, doesn't pull your hair and force his cock down your throat unless you like it that way (I do... giggle). He's a guy who doesn't argue about price and gives you a bit more than you expect because he likes you and wants you to feel really good about dating him. He's a guy who takes a bath and brushes his teeth before a date... etc. and who you want to have sex with again.

What is a upscale gentleman to you?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)


thatll work 4 me

Ecstatic
12-01-2007, 07:37 AM
Yes, but you've got class...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Thanks, Jamie. :-) That is truly the nicest thing I've heard all day.



How's one out of two, Hara? ;)

(And no, I'm not rich....)

Of course Ecstatic! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Well, thank you, Hara. That's two very nice things in one day! I'm on a roll.... :lol:

Actually, I think this touches on a valid point: being upscale implies money to indulge oneself and one's partner in any fashion desired, whereas class is not dependent upon how deep one's pockets are, but rather on one's elan or elegance of style, taste, and manner.

MacShreach
12-01-2007, 03:44 PM
. being able to afford something expensive does not grant someone taste or status most of the time it makes them pompous chav's. most expensive stuff is cheap shit with different tags and people dont buy that crap because they can, they buy it because others cant.

.

I think it has very little to do with money in absolute terms. For example, in "Scent of A Woman" the Al Pacino character lived with his niece and saved his money, but when he spent it, did so in a very upscale manner.

In other words he had the taste and refinement to enjoy the very best things in life, and was not afraid to spend what it took to get them. That is far more upscale than some moronic barrow-boy who got rich speculating but frankly wouldn't know Sancerre from sealing-wax and has difficulty enunciating a coherent sentence. IMO.

Tomfurbs
12-01-2007, 11:24 PM
An upscale gentleman?

A man who allegedly violates a corpse.

slinky
12-02-2007, 12:24 AM
Upscale = More $$ to burn (no haggling). It might also mean/refer to OLDER men. ;)



Intentionally or unintentionally, it means a guy who doesn't care so much about the $ so he doesn't care if an item (like a prostitute's services) is more than it "should be" under the current market conditions, but will pay what the seller is asking because he wants the item and the $ mean less to him than not getting what he wants.

Almost all men are that in some circumstances, it just depends on the market. For example, if you're in a candy/grocery/news stand and they want 10 cents instead of 5 cents for the stick of gum, are you going to drive 4 blocks to the next one to save the 5 cents? Well, there are lots of guys who feel that way about the difference between a $200 girl and a $300 girl, or an $800 girl vs a $1500 girl. It depends on 2 things: you disposable income and your price elasticity of demand curves.

gamma aries
12-02-2007, 12:34 AM
Humanist who can afford to rent a tuxedo.

BeardedOne
12-02-2007, 01:14 AM
I honestly don't consider myself an upscale gentelman, by any terms, but I do try to extend that air in my occasional forays into the social world.

Though I am usually a burgers-and-beer sort of guy, not averse to lunching at Quag's (McDonald's) or shopping at Q-Mart, I do try to raise my social life (Rare as it may be) to a higher level.

On my most recent 'dates' I have showered, shaved (In my case, trimmed), dressed well, and tweaked my manners to the extreme. In each case, I was received well, treated respectfully, and had a most enjoyable time.

While these things were not that far of a reach for me, I couldn't help but feel that I was not giving my most sincere foot forward for each event. In short, how would these people have seen me, as it were, "the morning after"?

One lady dressed incredibly "upscale", but couldn't have cared less if we were munching on potato chips, the other was dressed "casually", but was concerned about the quality of the cuisine.

I wanted to please each as much as I could, but as a 'guy', all I could think of was "I'm hungry. Does it taste good? Can I afford it? OK!". I naturally hoped for and, so far, got the best results.

In the end, I still wear yesterday's socks and sniff my shirts to deternmine if they are worthy of another day on the road. Do I come close to being considered 'upscale'? You decide.

Ecstatic
12-02-2007, 03:03 AM
In the end, I still wear yesterday's socks and sniff my shirts to deternmine if they are worthy of another day on the road. Do I come close to being considered 'upscale'? You decide.
Just so long as you don't sniff my shirts.... :twisted:

CORVETTEDUDE
12-02-2007, 03:05 AM
To me an upscale gentleman is any man with a penis and 100 bucks who isn't currently tweaking... arms, legs, fingers, toes are optional...
:-) Giggle.

Seriously though, he's a classy guy who opens the door for you, doesn't pull your hair and force his cock down your throat unless you like it that way (I do... giggle). He's a guy who doesn't argue about price and gives you a bit more than you expect because he likes you and wants you to feel really good about dating him. He's a guy who takes a bath and brushes his teeth before a date... etc. He's a guy you like to see and be around and who you want to have sex with again.

What is a upscale gentleman to you?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

I like your description and expectations. I also consider my character and integrity to be an example thereof. It's nice to know you appreciate such gentlemen. Thank You, Jamie.

fitz207
12-03-2007, 05:14 AM
And there are also a lot of wealthy people in the world who are very understated.
So true. Look at Bill Gates. He's got billions, but you wouldn't know it. I have more respect for wealthy people who spend their money and time helping the unfortunate than the flashy show off types.

Shallow people are so pathetic.

fitz207
12-03-2007, 05:39 AM
In other words "rich and a wimp who's willing to pay more than the actual price." Damn I am such a hater. lol

this is just communist propaganda. what do mean by the real price, if not the price as determined by market value? if a girl can charge more and get it, then what she's selling is worth more. that's capitalism, pure and simple. if you can't afford it, buy cheap. if you're not in the market for an escort, then you're not in the market, fine...but it doesn't make you a man...it just makes you uninteresting to girls are looking to make some money.
The market doesn't always drive prices, if it did we would all be homeless. I don't think 62des was referring only to escorts. It's funny how you escorts think capitalism simply means charging whatever you want to. But American capitalism is much more complex than that. So most TG escorts are conservative when it comes to making money? I'm sure the republican party can't wait to hear that the TG escort community is backing them all of the way.

Trish you sound like another shallow escort who's using American capitalism as an excuse for being an uptight snob.

fitz207
12-03-2007, 05:54 AM
An upscale gentleman; generally includes some drool, and a bib.

Maybe some rice pudding, a donut and a baby spoon.
I'm sorry but if you are that old, your mind is not capable of making sound and rational decisions. She should have gone to jail for that money making scam.

But he's every escorts dream. :lol:

Paladin
12-03-2007, 06:01 AM
i have no problem helping out someone that needs cash but never for sex.

CTS' do not come with white leather, light tan or grey only. Long gone are the days when you could get 13 different colored leather interiors in cars.

fitz207
12-03-2007, 09:48 AM
i have no problem helping out someone that needs cash but never for sex.

CTS' do not come with white leather, light tan or grey only. Long gone are the days when you could get 13 different colored leather interiors in cars.
I'll take a Caddy or Lincoln ANY day over a BMW or Benz! At least they're truly American!

justatransgirl
12-03-2007, 11:07 AM
I like your description and expectations. I also consider my character and integrity to be an example thereof. It's nice to know you appreciate such gentlemen. Thank You, Jamie.

Yes, but you will still bend me over the hood of your car if I can get to Denver won't you?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

justatransgirl
12-03-2007, 11:12 AM
Actually, I think this touches on a valid point: being upscale implies money to indulge oneself and one's partner in any fashion desired, whereas class is not dependent upon how deep one's pockets are, but rather on one's elan or elegance of style, taste, and manner.

What a great definition. I think that's what I was looking for.


Humanist who can afford to rent a tuxedo.

No dear - an upscale gentleman OWNS his own tux, and not one of those $99 ones.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

slinky
12-03-2007, 01:33 PM
No dear - an upscale gentleman OWNS his own tux, and not one of those $99 ones.

I'd better hide my Armani tux when the TS hookers come over.

gamma aries
12-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Actually, I think this touches on a valid point: being upscale implies money to indulge oneself and one's partner in any fashion desired, whereas class is not dependent upon how deep one's pockets are, but rather on one's elan or elegance of style, taste, and manner.

What a great definition. I think that's what I was looking for.


Humanist who can afford to rent a tuxedo.

No dear - an upscale gentleman OWNS his own tux, and not one of those $99 ones.

Ah, I though it had some non-material connotations also. Duly noted.