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alex_c
11-28-2007, 04:11 AM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/27/simmons.tn.cross.dressers.arrested.wmc?iref=videos earch

nu uh hunny

MrsKellyPierce
11-28-2007, 04:27 AM
thats what you call scary marys'

TsVanessa69
11-28-2007, 04:30 AM
now i've been to Mc Donalds and I know how those employee's sometimes act. Wonder what the other side of the story was. I was in Wendys one time, in drag paint, as I was on my way to a show, and a young man of color thought it was funny to call every employee to the front to look at me, we got into an altercation and the manager apologized and refunded my money and that of my friends. Sometimes fast food employees think they are the shit and need to be put in their place.

jimbobw2
11-28-2007, 04:39 AM
was a hell of a fight. a tire tool and hot grease :shock: :lol:

alphanumeric
11-28-2007, 04:39 AM
now i've been to Mc Donalds and I know how those employee's sometimes act. Wonder what the other side of the story was. I was in Wendys one time, in drag paint, as I was on my way to a show, and a young man of color thought it was funny to call every employee to the front to look at me, we got into an altercation and the manager apologized and refunded my money and that of my friends. Sometimes fast food employees think they are the shit and need to be put in their place.

geez you'd think working in a fast food joint would be it's very own punishment... :lol:

lust4ts
11-28-2007, 05:06 AM
Fucking crazy!

Night Rider
11-28-2007, 05:09 AM
wtf, i wanna see. it keeps coming up something about the pakistan army :(

NRT
11-28-2007, 05:09 AM
I always thought there was stigma attached to working at Mcdonalds or similar places. They employ anybody, and a job for losers. Its like wearing a sign saying 'I earn chump change'. So how can they think
'they are the shit' (or 'the dogs bollocks' as we say in London) when you are in the classic dead end job? Its certainly not a job with status, even if you are a manager, which is often a glorified crew member? if the staff are rude, the customers usually laugh at the people who have to work there, they must be desperate





now i've been to Mc Donalds and I know how those employee's sometimes act. Wonder what the other side of the story was. I was in Wendys one time, in drag paint, as I was on my way to a show, and a young man of color thought it was funny to call every employee to the front to look at me, we got into an altercation and the manager apologized and refunded my money and that of my friends. Sometimes fast food employees think they are the shit and need to be put in their place.

geez you'd think working in a fast food joint would be it's very own punishment... :lol:

lust4ts
11-28-2007, 05:16 AM
wtf, i wanna see. it keeps coming up something about the pakistan army :(

It was working a little while ago NR, it seems is has ben replaced by a newer event, you can still see it, just scroll down to search video and type in "fight", it is the third one down "Transvestite fight in eatery" seriously it's crazy :D

Falrune
11-28-2007, 05:23 AM
now i've been to Mc Donalds and I know how those employee's sometimes act. Wonder what the other side of the story was. I was in Wendys one time, in drag paint, as I was on my way to a show, and a young man of color thought it was funny to call every employee to the front to look at me, we got into an altercation and the manager apologized and refunded my money and that of my friends. Sometimes fast food employees think they are the shit and need to be put in their place.

This makes more sense than that sensationalized news report

Night Rider
11-28-2007, 05:24 AM
wtf, i wanna see. it keeps coming up something about the pakistan army :(

It was working a little while ago NR, it seems is has ben replaced by a newer event, you can still see it, just scroll down to search video and type in "fight", it is the third one down "Transvestite fight in eatery" seriously it's crazy :D

Cheers man. They were all on crack, there's no other explaination!

Steve-Oh
11-28-2007, 06:25 AM
Holy CRAP!
"One of the drag queens mauled him with his fingernails."
Sounds like that guy was salvagely attacked!

:deadhorse OK, so SUE me.

justatransgirl
11-28-2007, 06:58 AM
Are we sure this wasn't some HA members on a road trip?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

kiaman
11-28-2007, 07:13 AM
Good grief, what a way for my hometown to get noticed in the news. :x

LBCDO
11-28-2007, 07:51 AM
I took a girl named "TS Halle Berry" one time to the burger king on East Ponce here in downtown ATL and we had been up all night and she SNAPPED on the people working there. Over some fuckin bacon on a crossaintwich. I was so tired, I backed up into that little barrier by the drivethru wiindow and fucked up my bumper.

But if you've ever been to a fast food restaurant with a girl who isnt having one of her "passable days" prepare to hear a lot of bullshit. I get that bullshit all the time, and they, I can guarantee, get it a lot worse. Id love to hear the other side of the story. Gotta suck to be on TV, bandaged up, saying you got your ass beat by drag queens

Night Rider
11-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Gotta suck to be on TV, bandaged up, saying you got your ass beat by drag queens

I couldn't think of anything worse!

Jericho
11-28-2007, 04:36 PM
Damn, tyre-iron trannys hand out a McBeating! :shock:

needsum
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Notice the headline? "When Transvestites Attack"

WTF? Sounds like some special they'll be showing on wild kingdom. I think thats part of the problem right there--the media instantly labels them as a target group, like they are some "thing" rather than just people. It makes it easy for the rest of society who doesn't understand this particular culture to continue to laugh, and be ignorant and biggoted.

BrendaQG
11-28-2007, 05:14 PM
Are we sure this wasn't some HA members on a road trip?

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

{sarcasm}HA HA HA{/sarcasm}

So you your lover and a friend were down there eh? You should really turn yourself in.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
11-28-2007, 05:35 PM
the 2nd time I'm heard of a tranny getting hot grease thrown at them

priceless

mimiplastique
11-28-2007, 05:49 PM
i am so glad i had nothing to do with this drama and thank GOD !!!!

It brings me back to the train video. There are always two sides to every tale and this one just so happened those girls were not going to take the bullshit dished out to them in a way i am glad they stood up for them selfs but ... breaking the window was going a tad too far (thats in real life :for all of you who live on a hung angels i.v.), so was the hot grease !!!!
Also the pronouns used to describe the girls were not at all the best "drag queens " "transvestites" . when will the world come to recognize the fact that there are transgendered people around and we have a right for respect in the media as well as in the drive through ...
so glad this was not me ... I went to burger king last night LOL not my nails :)

mimiplastique
11-28-2007, 06:22 PM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. :shrug


i am so glad i had nothing to do with this drama and thank GOD !!!!

It brings me back to the train video. There are always two sides to every tale and this one just so happened those girls were not going to take the bullshit dished out to them in a way i am glad they stood up for them selfs but ... breaking the window was going a tad too far (thats in real life :for all of you who live on a hung angels i.v.), so was the hot grease !!!!
Also the pronouns used to describe the girls were not at all the best "drag queens " "transvestites" . when will the world come to recognize the fact that there are transgendered people around and we have a right for respect in the media as well as in the drive through ...
so glad this was not me ... I went to burger king last night LOL not my nails :)now did thoses guys seem like they would respect a DRAG QUEEN let alone an transexual??? i honestly belive that some thing happened to trigger this chain of events ...#1 why would a group of trannys run in and act like gangsters if they were not provoked to do so ???? it does not add up . and boots and earrings come on even after the fact the was the boy described the story was very nonchalant
in the way he spoke of the fight ,,, it was all one big joke to him and now some girl is some where with severe burns .....
and yes they should have stayed in the car . this whole problem could have been prevented ....
look on the bright side for them at least the whole thing did not make youtube lmao because that would have taken all the attention off my spat i had with omeone who provoked me !

BrendaQG
11-28-2007, 06:42 PM
:tsk: This is some BS. The innocent wittle employees of the Mc Donalds were hurt by three big ol men in drag. C'mon who could buy that. I have heard of and seen fast food employees start stuff with GG's, and men. With few exceptions they are people who have no other real option and they know it. I mean...I know places where the same person has been working the drive through since 1998.

I'll bet the employees resented the fact that those "queens" had more money and more going on than they did.

I'm gonna stop speculating. There just has to be more to this than what we know right now.

Quinn
11-28-2007, 06:48 PM
What a bunch of losers.

-Quinn

freak
11-28-2007, 07:04 PM
there are definitely 2 sides to this story, you know the guy in the drive up window was mocking them, then when the scuffle started the manager threw hot grease at them? WTF was he thinking, that has to be a bit of a over reaction. They were wrong for going in but the employees were just as guilty with there actions. I do believe the stories but I am not sure on the order they say they happened in

Quinn
11-28-2007, 07:28 PM
What a bunch of losers.

-Quinn


What amazes me is that, without even the basic facts, some people start to make excuses for them: "They stood up for themselves," "The employees were jealous," "They had no choice but to fight," "a girl has got to do, what a girl has got to do."

Are they guilty? I DO NOT KNOW. That's for the courts to decide> ButI'm sure some here will sayt that it was all a frame-up.

We all know that crossdressers never start fights, right?

I couldn't agree with you more about people jumping in and making excuses without knowing the facts. To be fair though, my "losers" comment wasn't just directed at the three drag queens; that is, it was meant for the McDonald's employees as well.

-Quinn

SarahG
11-28-2007, 09:56 PM
I don't see how this was a race issue, every person in that video- cops and McDonalds employees included were black.

I get that employees at stores get rude, especially when it comes to people who don't pass but that doesn't justify using weapons to retaliate. Beating someone up because of an insult isn't standing up for yourself. Whichever one of the three who had the tire iron was lucky they weren't shot. I don't care what someone's demographic is, if you walk into ANY store waving around a tire iron and get shot, the clerk is going to get off on self defense. By choosing to using a tire iron as a weapon in that store, they gave the clerks justifiable reason to defend themselves with boiling oil. What, you all think the clerks should have just stood there to get beaten on by a blunt steel object?

I agree there is no way for sure of knowing if they were tv's or ts given the media reports since TV, TG and TS are all used interchangeably by most of the media. According to the story posted here later in the thread one was named Lynn which implies a name change.

And people wonder why the trans community isn't usually taken seriously, even by fringe demographics.

BrendaQG
11-28-2007, 10:17 PM
I say innocent until proven guilty.

Of course the employees are going to paint things in a light that makes them look good. The drag queens were given prompt curtious service and then just snapped. They just snapped and went in swinging. That's the gist of their story.

If you listen closely the person working the drive through says something revealing. They tapped on the glass and he ignored them. Why? Why do something disrespectful just for the sake of doing so.

SarahG
11-28-2007, 10:50 PM
I say innocent until proven guilty.

Of course the employees are going to paint things in a light that makes them look good. The drag queens were given prompt curtious service and then just snapped. They just snapped and went in swinging. That's the gist of their story.

If you listen closely the person working the drive through says something revealing. They tapped on the glass and he ignored them. Why? Why do something disrespectful just for the sake of doing so.

I am not debating the employees were probably being pretty damn rude, but that doesn't give the customer the right to react violently, let alone with tire irons.

The surveillance videos should show who turned it into a physical confrontation but the act of bringing in a tire iron like that isn't making it sound good for the three customers even if you cut out the insults, pronoun usage and terminology from the picture.

alex_c
11-28-2007, 11:34 PM
I say innocent until proven guilty.

Of course the employees are going to paint things in a light that makes them look good. The drag queens were given prompt curtious service and then just snapped. They just snapped and went in swinging. That's the gist of their story.

If you listen closely the person working the drive through says something revealing. They tapped on the glass and he ignored them. Why? Why do something disrespectful just for the sake of doing so.

Uh, yea, innocent until proven guilty. That's a given in American jurisprudence, but thanks for reminding us. No one said otherwise. :roll:

There are always two sides, or more, to every story Brenda. So what if the employees were disrespectful? Are you suggesting that rudeness is an excuse to charge into a restaurant swinging a tire iron and destroy property?

We've all received bad service at one time or another. You either complain or go elsewhere. You do not start swiinging potentially deadly weapons around. Right Brenda?

Yea we only have the employees' side of the story, why? Because they are not the one who fled the scene, leaving behind shoes, coats and a broken window.

I get thh feeling that you are somehow identifying with the dudes charged in the attack.

Again, Brenda, just becasue these guys wear dresses, from time to time, is no reason to defend their bad behavior.

It'll be interesting to see the surveillance tape. I'm sure someone will come out with some wacky statement like "How do we know that tape was not doctored?" or some kind of crazy crap along those lines.

lets not rule out that some crossdressers are mentally unstable, But look on the bright side of the glitz and glam, Its the perfect disguise http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Winks/icon_wink.gif

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 12:10 AM
Its always funny how someone will post up about how people do "immoral" things on a board full of people who commit adultery and prostitution on a daily basis...

Anyway, the law is "SUPPOSED" to be innocent until proven guilty. None of us know what the fuck happened there. If you are just a "computer admirer" and never been with a TS in person, you might know what types of shit happens that can set someone off. Shit, maybe the girls turned it physical. Maybe the drive thru attendant was talking shit, the girls talked shit back, and the guy from McDonalds threw a coke in the drivers face? Maybe not. We dont know shit

From the beginning Ive said I would lvoe to hear both sides because I know how it is. All we have to go off of is one side of the story, cut and edited with cute little bandages on their face. Obviously something had to happen for more than one girl to jump in. Ok, one insane jackass just spazzes out for no reason and runs in a McDonalds and starts fighting, unprevoked. But 3? Fuck outta here

I just hate when people try to be on that johnny law bullshit, like "Oh, they have prior records." Half of the girls on this board have "prior records". Driving violations, and prostitution, LOL I wouldnt even repeat that shit here on this board.

MrsKellyPierce
11-29-2007, 12:30 AM
I totally agree with you Braveman. There's a decency a person should possess. And even if they were being discriminated against there was no reason to go into a establishment, and beat them down. You call the police or file a suit against them. LIKE ANY DECENT PERSON. Lordy I swear sometimes people disgust me.

BrendaQG
11-29-2007, 12:36 AM
@LBCDO

For once we agree. :-)

@Kelly

Sure they could have done that. You have to try and look at this from their point of view. Being both black and transgendered often the legal system fails you utterly and completely. You learn young that the legal system is at best something to be worked over to get what you want not a institution set up to help you.

Mr_Choc69
11-29-2007, 12:41 AM
I wish I could have seen that shit. LMAO

MrsKellyPierce
11-29-2007, 12:45 AM
@LBCDO

For once we agree. :-)

@Kelly

Sure they could have done that. You have to try and look at this from their point of view. Being both black and transgendered often the legal system fails you utterly and completely. You learn young that the legal system is at best something to be worked over to get what you want not a institution set up to help you. Brenda you are scapegoating. I have worked in the transgender community for years, and this is extreme!!!!! Thats just like saying if a guy saw a transsexual out and says thats a "dude" thats a "dude" and then the transsexual retaliates by kicking the guy or hitting him. And then of course the guy will fight back....and if the guy wins the fight.. then by your standards that would be viewed as a HATE CRIME. When all actuality it could of totally been avoided and she threw the first hit, if the transsexual would of removed herself from the situation she wouldn't of had the reprucussions. There is right and wrong, and there is good decision making. They made the wrong decisions, and now they must pay for their crimes. For your argument to hold true, every employee would have to detest and hate crossdressers, and want to put their jobs on the line. Obviously the manager felt threatened or he wouldn't of thrown the grease at one of the suspects. There is common sense also Brenda.

echimandu
11-29-2007, 01:10 AM
@LBCDO

For once we agree. :-)

@Kelly

Sure they could have done that. You have to try and look at this from their point of view. Being both black and transgendered often the legal system fails you utterly and completely. You learn young that the legal system is at best something to be worked over to get what you want not a institution set up to help you.So this is grounds to go into an establishment wielding a tire iron? Brenda there is nothing that those employees did that warrants that kind of behavior. Why can't you just own up to the fact that there are some very unstable trannys out there? I mean, unstable people come in all forms and races, and some trannys make up part of that. Why is this so hard to admit.

Quinn
11-29-2007, 01:11 AM
@Kelly

Sure they could have done that. You have to try and look at this from their point of view. Being both black and transgendered often the legal system fails you utterly and completely. You learn young that the legal system is at best something to be worked over to get what you want not a institution set up to help you.

Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 01:23 AM
Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LOL, thats because its a police report. When have you seen a police report say anything in the defense of the person being arrested?

All Im saying is be careful taking sides because you never know. Im pretty nuetral on the issue, but shit, everyone thing thinks she just spazzed out and grabbed the tire iron? Yall gotta get out and meet some TSs and hear some horror stories. Hear about the girls who get beat up for no reason, raped, drinks thrown in their face, etc. Dont go back and edit, but a whole ton of you have said "THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE IT" NONE OF YOU WERE FUCKING THERE! I mean, did I see a different clip than everyone else? Are you all that impressionable/naive that you think that whatever someone says on the news can be taken as the truth?

If THEY were so innocent, why didnt they call the police as soon as they seen that someone had a tire iron? How many employees were there? How come the drive thru attendant didnt get the manager to say that there was a problem at the drive thru while they were still in the car? Were they doing something shady where they wouldve gotten introuble at the job? Why did the employees choose to fight instead of call the police once it jumped off? And you know what, maybe they did do all of that shit, but I wouldnt know because I wasnt there. AND NEITHER WERE YOU!

Like dude is going to get on TV and be like "Yea, I called her up because I seen her on craigslist, and while she let me use the bathroom, I tied her up and raped her and stole her money and her dog. Well, 2 months later she saw me working at Mickey Ds and came to beat my ass. " Shit for all we know that happened. So what now? If it means that much to you, since you got the names of the people locked up, write them and get their side. Everyone in jail loves mail. Until them, lots of assumptions

MrsKellyPierce
11-29-2007, 01:26 AM
Doesn't matter LBCDO words can't hurt you. It's ridiculous to act like that.

Mr_Choc69
11-29-2007, 01:32 AM
Let's get back to the Humor in this post - A wild TV fight in McDonalds with a Tire Iron and Hot Grease???????


HILARIOUS!!!!

echimandu
11-29-2007, 01:33 AM
Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LOL, thats because its a police report. When have you seen a police report say anything in the defense of the person being arrested?

All Im saying is be careful taking sides because you never know. Im pretty nuetral on the issue, but shit, everyone thing thinks she just spazzed out and grabbed the tire iron? Yall gotta get out and meet some TSs and hear some horror stories. Hear about the girls who get beat up for no reason, raped, drinks thrown in their face, etc. Dont go back and edit, but a whole ton of you have said "THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE IT" NONE OF YOU WERE FUCKING THERE! I mean, did I see a different clip than everyone else? Are you all that impressionable/naive that you think that whatever someone says on the news can be taken as the truth?

If THEY were so innocent, why didnt they call the police as soon as they seen that someone had a tire iron? How many employees were there? How come the drive thru attendant didnt get the manager to say that there was a problem at the drive thru while they were still in the car? Were they doing something shady where they wouldve gotten introuble at the job? Why did the employees choose to fight instead of call the police once it jumped off? And you know what, maybe they did do all of that shit, but I wouldnt know because I wasnt there. AND NEITHER WERE YOU!

Like dude is going to get on TV and be like "Yea, I called her up because I seen her on craigslist, and while she let me use the bathroom, I tied her up and raped her and stole her money and her dog. Well, 2 months later she saw me working at Mickey Ds and came to beat my ass. " Shit for all we know that happened. So what now? If it means that much to you, since you got the names of the people locked up, write them and get their side. Everyone in jail loves mail. Until them, lots of assumptionsLBCDO, maybe some of us have seen this sort of behavior from trannys before. I certainly have. I've seen both sides of these fights.

MrsKellyPierce
11-29-2007, 01:37 AM
Let's get back to the Humor in this post - A wild TV fight in McDonalds with a Tire Iron and Hot Grease???????


HILARIOUS!!!! Smacks Ty for acting so immature lol

Quinn
11-29-2007, 01:41 AM
Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LOL, thats because its a police report. When have you seen a police report say anything in the defense of the person being arrested?

All Im saying is be careful taking sides because you never know.

At what point have I taken sides, LBCDO? That's right, I haven't. What I have done is call Brenda out for doing precisely that, an action that seems unwarranted given the unfavorability of both police and media reports to her position. Maybe you should ask yourself why you typed this sort of message to me, rather than the individual to whom it should have been sent.

-Quinn

Mr_Choc69
11-29-2007, 01:52 AM
Let's get back to the Humor in this post - A wild TV fight in McDonalds with a Tire Iron and Hot Grease???????


HILARIOUS!!!! Smacks Ty for acting so immature lol


A violent side? I don't remember you being violent. Moving away must have changed you - lol

MrsKellyPierce
11-29-2007, 01:53 AM
Let's get back to the Humor in this post - A wild TV fight in McDonalds with a Tire Iron and Hot Grease???????


HILARIOUS!!!! Smacks Ty for acting so immature lol


A violent side? I don't remember you being violent. Moving away must have changed you - lol :lol: :lol: :lol:

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 01:56 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employee said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Mr_Choc69
11-29-2007, 02:01 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 02:08 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head. Before u can speak on what happens to us, you have to have been in a simular situation. I say BRAVO to the girls for taking a stand. Right or wrong, it sends a message out that we are not weak, and we are not going to tolerate peoples bullshit. I have never had a problem speaking up, when people think they can try and make a joke at my expense. After my Macy's incident, a few customers came up to me and commended me for taking a stand. One lady was so nice, she wanted to buy me a Starbucks and I told her "its ok. Its a part of reality"

SarahG
11-29-2007, 02:43 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employee said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

I don't see how the pictures prove that anyone there was ts. But the pictures combined with the one that had done a name change (going by the one named Lynn) I would say it is likely at least one of them were.

You really can't use even hrt as a litmus test to tell who is ts and who is not, there are plenty of tv's out there on hrt who would never ever want to even think of transitioning.

But really... does it MATTER if these were ts or tv people? I am not sure it makes a difference, certainly the general public (including the cops and fast food employees involved) wouldn't be able to tell you the difference if asked to do so. When either group does something like this, it costs the whole community in terms of stereotypes & public opinion. And that matters because that dictates policy making.

Let's face it, trans is still such a taboo thing that it really isn't a surprise when gay groups like HRC sell us down the river, or when politicians remove us from legislation in hopes of it making themselves look "less radical." Stuff like this isn't helping any more or less than the crap some of the activists do (as has been discussed here in the past). If this were a fight at a gay pride parade I would bet good money the people on this board would be taking a different tone about "those damn crazy activists."

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 02:45 AM
Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LOL, thats because its a police report. When have you seen a police report say anything in the defense of the person being arrested?

All Im saying is be careful taking sides because you never know.

At what point have I taken sides, LBCDO? That's right, I haven't. What I have done is call Brenda out for doing precisely that, an action that seems unwarranted given the unfavorability of both police and media reports to her position. Maybe you should ask yourself why you typed this sort of message to me, rather than the individual to whom it should have been sent.

-Quinn

And maybe you should have sent it as a PM and not as a post in the thread if you didnt want people to comment. Im not trying to be a dick at all, im just saying that in general, the police will never expose both sides. I really was using what you said to get a point accross to everyone in general.

Steve-Oh
11-29-2007, 02:54 AM
SaraG sums it up nicely in this sentence:


When either group does something like this, it costs the whole community in terms of stereotypes & public opinion.

Feeling like a victim is no excuse for acting out so outrageously.

All I can say is:

Jer-ry!
Jer-ry!
Jer-ry

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 02:59 AM
Yea swinging a tire iron at someone, in a menacing way, could be considered immoral, but more importantly it's probably criminal. I'd like to think that 90% or more of the people on the board have not resorted to settling disputes with tire irons.
The main thing is we dont even know what the dispute was over. Yea, if it was over some cold fries, fuck it. But if someone spit on me, poured hot, greasy food all over me, hit me through a drive through window, I might not grab a tire iron, but Imma grab something. Dont you think knowing what provoked it would be one of the most important things to know?


I hate it when people keep repeatind that they no nothing about the case. Again, stating the obvious. We only know what the news reports indicate, that is if you bother to read the reports. If you don't then truly you don't know "shit."
So why make so many strong statements if you are going off of one side of the story. The news didnt take any statements or anything from the girls. So if I asked 100 Nazis what happened during the Holocaust, would it be the same story if it were told by 100 jews? Kinda an extreme of an example, but hopefully you understand.

[/quote][I can't speak for anyone else. I've been in bars, nightclubs and restaurants with tgirls and we've never encountered a problem, but then again I was with ladies, not dudes dressed up as women.[/quote]
And Ive been with some of the most passable "ladies" that are out there too, and they will tell you in an instant. If you've never "encountered a problem" with someone acintg stupid, then you're full of shit. Dont get so lost in this internet shit that you mix reality, becuase every girl Ive met from Sheeba to Katie Coxx to fucking females who do video shoots for a living have been spooked by someone and handed some bullshit.

Carlos
11-29-2007, 02:59 AM
In my opinion Sure people can be assholes but to take violence to that degree is something only a fuckup would do. Vanessa I'm sure every experience in your life hasn't been easy but then you are human & every human has been an asshole to someone in their life. So at the point that you were being an asshole to someone would it have been alright for you to get busted in your head with a tire iron? There's a time for violence. Bbut that wasn't it. Just sad that it was probably all black folks involved. We will overcome one day. If anyone needs me I'll be home watching Roots...now there was a time when violence was needed! lol.

Quinn
11-29-2007, 03:15 AM
Brenda, just how far out of your way are you going to go to formulate scenarios that remove any degree of personal accountability for these three drag queens? It's just getting sad at this point, particularly when the only reports that have come out from the police are unfavorable to your position (specifically that the three drag queens initiated the violence). Grow up already.

-Quinn

LOL, thats because its a police report. When have you seen a police report say anything in the defense of the person being arrested?

All Im saying is be careful taking sides because you never know.

At what point have I taken sides, LBCDO? That's right, I haven't. What I have done is call Brenda out for doing precisely that, an action that seems unwarranted given the unfavorability of both police and media reports to her position. Maybe you should ask yourself why you typed this sort of message to me, rather than the individual to whom it should have been sent.

-Quinn

And maybe you should have sent it as a PM and not as a post in the thread if you didnt want people to comment. Im not trying to be a dick at all, im just saying that in general, the police will never expose both sides. I really was using what you said to get a point accross to everyone in general.

Why would I have sent it as a PM? If the comment was made in the general forum, why wouldn't I address it there? And, for what it's worth, I don't think you were trying to be a dick (you've always been a good citizen here). It just seems odd to present a message in that form, in a response to my post, when unreasonable bias had been presented so clearly elsewhwere prior to that point.

-Quinn

trannybanger
11-29-2007, 03:35 AM
Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level.

You obviously already assume that you are obviously on some level above others, interesting perception.

That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employee says to a transgenedred person?
Who knows what the employee said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off.

Incredibly perceptive to automatically presume to know how all managers would react in any situation regarding a customer issue. Who know what the transvestite said to the emplyee to set this whole thing off? Try on the other jumbo boot left at the scene.

I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries.

Said by a prostitute that is not raking in the cash and has never set foot into a school of higher education.

As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend.

I saw the same photos. You are kidding right? Just a note for all the fellas, there apparently is a blurry line between a transwoman and a dude in a dress in Chicago.

Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too.

What the fuck world are you living in? This is not Grand Theft Auto.

Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Nothing but class, nothing but class. Calm you down?? What were you planning on doing ? Pulling out a tire iron. You have a difficult life course, this wasn't the first time that happened and it won't be the last. I suggest you acquire a bit more civil way to handle yourself. Good luck with adapting to the real world at some point.

echimandu
11-29-2007, 03:51 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head. Before u can speak on what happens to us, you have to have been in a simular situation. I say BRAVO to the girls for taking a stand. Right or wrong, it sends a message out that we are not weak, and we are not going to tolerate peoples bullshit. I have never had a problem speaking up, when people think they can try and make a joke at my expense. After my Macy's incident, a few customers came up to me and commended me for taking a stand. One lady was so nice, she wanted to buy me a Starbucks and I told her "its ok. Its a part of reality"Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.

tsntx
11-29-2007, 04:03 AM
now i've been to Mc Donalds and I know how those employee's sometimes act. Wonder what the other side of the story was. I was in Wendys one time, in drag paint, as I was on my way to a show, and a young man of color thought it was funny to call every employee to the front to look at me, we got into an altercation and the manager apologized and refunded my money and that of my friends. Sometimes fast food employees think they are the shit and need to be put in their place.

totally was bout to post the same thing... go sis

tsntx
11-29-2007, 04:07 AM
the 2nd time I'm heard of a tranny getting hot grease thrown at them

priceless


i thought having hot grease slung on you was the life of a tranny escort

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 04:55 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head. Before u can speak on what happens to us, you have to have been in a simular situation. I say BRAVO to the girls for taking a stand. Right or wrong, it sends a message out that we are not weak, and we are not going to tolerate peoples bullshit. I have never had a problem speaking up, when people think they can try and make a joke at my expense. After my Macy's incident, a few customers came up to me and commended me for taking a stand. One lady was so nice, she wanted to buy me a Starbucks and I told her "its ok. Its a part of reality"Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.
Somebody can't read, A customer ask an employee of macys. And that was not me on maury that was Mimi

tsntx
11-29-2007, 04:59 AM
As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend.

I saw the same photos. You are kidding right? Just a note for all the fellas, there apparently is a blurry line between a transwoman and a dude in a dress in Chicago.


um.... have u seen the matt into krista thread? its full of questionable girls and the guys of this site defending them ... just thought id show another reason y a fag in drag doesnt equal a ts

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:03 AM
Said by a prostitute that is not raking in the cash and has never set foot into a school of higher education.
I'm an escort not a prostitute. And have never had a problem raking in cash. I just left NYC where I was in a $350 a night hotel on Broadway 4 blocks from Times Square for 8 days. I saw at least 2 clients every day I was there at $250-$300 a pop and some days I saw 4 clients. Now you do the math. So for somebody who didn't need college, I by far have never had a problem raking in cash.

echimandu
11-29-2007, 05:04 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head. Before u can speak on what happens to us, you have to have been in a simular situation. I say BRAVO to the girls for taking a stand. Right or wrong, it sends a message out that we are not weak, and we are not going to tolerate peoples bullshit. I have never had a problem speaking up, when people think they can try and make a joke at my expense. After my Macy's incident, a few customers came up to me and commended me for taking a stand. One lady was so nice, she wanted to buy me a Starbucks and I told her "its ok. Its a part of reality"Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.
Somebody can't read, A customer ask an employee of macys. And that was not me on maury that was MimiCustomer/employee still its assault with a deadly weapon. And you might have been insulted, but not assaulted. You would do The Maury show if asked. My point has been made.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:05 AM
As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend.

I saw the same photos. You are kidding right? Just a note for all the fellas, there apparently is a blurry line between a transwoman and a dude in a dress in Chicago.


um.... have u seen the matt into krista thread? its full of questionable girls and the guys of this site defending them ... just thought id show another reason y a fag in drag doesnt equal a ts The first girl in the pic obviously had some silicone work done on her face and seems to have been on hormones for a little bit, the boy, well thats obvious, the 3rd was a dude in a wig. That was my point. Now now that Matt stuff was just a fool.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:09 AM
[quote=Mr_Choc69][quote=TsVanessa69][quote=braveman]They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well "Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.
Somebody can't read, A customer ask an employee of macys. And that was not me on maury that was MimiCustomer/employee still its assault with a deadly weapon. And you might have been insulted, but not assaulted. You would do The Maury show if asked. My point has been made.
I have been ask a few times to do Maury, both here in Chicago and when I am in NYC, but Ts Vanessa/ Reina Valentino is quite sucessful on her own and I don't need a talk show to make me who I already am. Now we all know you are an ass and love to talk shit, so I'm gonna say kiss my ass bitch and move on. And no girl your point was not made.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-29-2007, 05:16 AM
I personally think that news clip is one of the funniest things I have seen in a long time.

It's just so surreal- the high heel boot on the floor, the jewlery- I mean it's right out of a John Water's film.

But aside from the bizarre comerdy of it all- I do personally believe that violence is never the answer to these situations. Especially if one is a ts- one should never fight physically.

It can be quite difficult and deameaning when people spook a girl and do it in such a way that makes you feel like shit. People can act act as if you are invisible and laugh right in your face. That's a hard thing to deal with but a fact and reality for all transsexuals. Everyone gets clocked from time to time and of couse for a girl who is more obvious it's much more difficult.

I've found that the best way to behave in such situations is to take the higher ground-if you give someone the power to upset you then they will.

I DO understand totally what Vanessa is saying - and sometimes you might get so frustrated that you just want to let let have it. And sometimes you need to.

But if docan not let small minded, ignorant people get the best of you-
the world in turn is a better place for you.

As I have found that people who instigate such things wether it be with a ts or anyone else are just usually looking for a reaction.

The video is hysterical- but attacking people with tire irons, wet floor signs, and such is definately not acceptable- and I bet the behaviour of the employees proir was probably not acceptable either. I'm sure this group was provoked.

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 05:22 AM
The video is hysterical- but attacking people with tire irons, wet floor signs, and such is definately not acceptable- and I bet the behaviour of the employees proir was probably not acceptable either. I'm sure this group was provoked.

I think thats what I was trying to get across, but you said it a lot better than I did

trannybanger
11-29-2007, 05:31 AM
Said by a prostitute that is not raking in the cash and has never set foot into a school of higher education.
I'm an escort not a prostitute. And have never had a problem raking in cash. I just left NYC where I was in a $350 a night hotel on Broadway 4 blocks from Times Square for 8 days. I saw at least 2 clients every day I was there at $250-$300 a pop and some days I saw 4 clients. Now you do the math. So for somebody who didn't need college, I by far have never had a problem raking in cash.

Out of my entire post, this was the only point you could attempt to refute? Regardless...

What exactly is the difference between an escort and a prostitute? My point was actually that you were belittling someone for the job they have and went on to assume they were uneducated since they had that position. Let me tell you, at least those people that work in fast food restaurants made the effort to acquire an actual job, adhere to schedules, pay taxes and fulfill their spot as a means to an end in a business.

You on the other hand are a judgemental bigot. You made more money for a week since you were in NYC (granted we are accepting you at your word here, as we know what you said in another thread) but its not like you were getting wealthy. I can do that math. I am gonna say that most days you "profited", after hotel, about $150 and maybe two days you did $500. Sweetie a waitress in a bar in NYC can make that. Get for real. Subtract food, drinks, the tacky fake shit you bought in Chinatown and how much have you really made? So what make you better than anyone else? You definitely have not paid taxes from your windfall last week. Yeah, you definitely didn't need college, and have no problem raking in the cash. FYI: I think McDonald's takes application online nowadays....

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:35 AM
The video is hysterical- but attacking people with tire irons, wet floor signs, and such is definately not acceptable- and I bet the behaviour of the employees proir was probably not acceptable either. I'm sure this group was provoked.

I think thats what I was trying to get across, but you said it a lot better than I did
Yea kinda what i was sayin too, just in my way. Hey LBCDO aren't you coming to Chicago soon??

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Said by a prostitute that is not raking in the cash and has never set foot into a school of higher education.
I'm an escort not a prostitute. And have never had a problem raking in cash. I just left NYC where I was in a $350 a night hotel on Broadway 4 blocks from Times Square for 8 days. I saw at least 2 clients every day I was there at $250-$300 a pop and some days I saw 4 clients. Now you do the math. So for somebody who didn't need college, I by far have never had a problem raking in cash.

Out of my entire post, this was the only point you could attempt to refute? Regardless...

What exactly is the difference between an escort and a prostitute? My point was actually that you were belittling someone for the job they have and went on to assume they were uneducated since they had that position. Let me tell you, at least those people that work in fast food restaurants made the effort to acquire an actual job, adhere to schedules, pay taxes and fulfill their spot as a means to an end in a business.

You on the other hand are a judgemental bigot. You made more money for a week since you were in NYC (granted we are accepting you at your word here, as we know what you said in another thread) but its not like you were getting wealthy. I can do that math. I am gonna say that most days you "profited", after hotel, about $150 and maybe two days you did $500. Sweetie a waitress in a bar in NYC can make that. Get for real. Subtract food, drinks, the tacky fake shit you bought in Chinatown and how much have you really made? So what make you better than anyone else? You definitely have not paid taxes from your windfall last week. Yeah, you definitely didn't need college, and have no problem raking in the cash. FYI: I think McDonald's takes application online nowadays....
Everbody knows I don't do the Chinatown thing. My Chanel, Louis Vuitton, and Guiseppe Zanotti's are REAL. My favorit store to buy shoes in NY is Petit Peton. I was in NY to enjoy myself and spend Thanksgiving with my friends in Brooklyn. and see the Rockettes 75th Anniversary show. My trip was paid in full months ago. Any money I made on this trip was pocket change, aside I did a club appearance in New Hope, Penn and another one in Manhattan. I pay taxes on my webcam service, my phone chat services, and 2 clubs that I work in here in Chicago deduct taxes from my pay. So fag, before you go flipping off that bitch ass mouth, know what you are talking about.

trannybanger
11-29-2007, 05:58 AM
Everbody knows I don't do the Chinatown thing. My Chanel, Louis Vuitton, and Guiseppe Zanotti's are REAL. I was in NY to enjoy myself and spend Thanksgiving with my friends in Brooklyn. My trip was paid in full months ago. Any money I made on this trip was pocket change, aside I did a club appearance in New Hope, Penn and another one in Manhattan. I pay taxes on my webcam service, my phone chat services, and 2 clubs that I work in here in Chicago deduct taxes from my pay. So fag, before you go flipping off that bitch ass mouth, know what you are talking about.

Now this will be the last time I respond to you regarding this issue, because you have resorted to childish antics and name calling and can obviously not handle a slightly heated debate.

The whole point was the fact that you are on a high horse for no reason. Not only are you no better but you are worse than somone that can at least hold onto employment, adhere to a regular schedule and pay taxes. I am sure your books are not legit at all, do you expect anyone to believe you reported your week here? Do you expect anyone to believe anything an uneducated person who is at the pinnacle of their career as a low dollar 'escort' says? I am sure your shit is about a real as that beautiful face, and if I cared enough I could call you out but I won't. Just remember before you start to judge, you are part of the reason people judge you, you fucking hypocrite.

And by the way definitely not a fag baby, I fuck women that look like women. If you need some photos of what those look like, let me know.

I am done with you.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 06:26 AM
Everbody knows I don't do the Chinatown thing. My Chanel, Louis Vuitton, and Guiseppe Zanotti's are REAL. I was in NY to enjoy myself and spend Thanksgiving with my friends in Brooklyn. My trip was paid in full months ago. Any money I made on this trip was pocket change, aside I did a club appearance in New Hope, Penn and another one in Manhattan. I pay taxes on my webcam service, my phone chat services, and 2 clubs that I work in here in Chicago deduct taxes from my pay. So fag, before you go flipping off that bitch ass mouth, know what you are talking about.

Now this will be the last time I respond to you regarding this issue, because you have resorted to childish antics and name calling and can obviously not handle a slightly heated debate.

The whole point was the fact that you are on a high horse for no reason. Not only are you no better but you are worse than somone that can at least hold onto employment, adhere to a regular schedule and pay taxes. I am sure your books are not legit at all, do you expect anyone to believe you reported your week here? Do you expect anyone to believe anything an uneducated person who is at the pinnacle of their career as a low dollar 'escort' says? I am sure your shit is about a real as that beautiful face, and if I cared enough I could call you out but I won't. Just remember before you start to judge, you are part of the reason people judge you, you fucking hypocrite.

And by the way definitely not a fag baby, I fuck women that look like women. If you need some photos of what those look like, let me know.

I am done with you.
Good. Another bitch out the way!!!! And fag, yes I adhere to a schedule, and yes I pay taxes. And YES you are a FAG!! A straight man would never go back and forth with me like this. Just fags. A lot of gay men fuck woman to hide their homosexuality. But the flames still shootin out toots! :puke TRANNYBANGER, is that what your guys at work call you??? OR do the tranny's bang YOU!!!! :jerkoff

echimandu
11-29-2007, 06:57 AM
[quote=Mr_Choc69][quote=TsVanessa69][quote=braveman]They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well "Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.
Somebody can't read, A customer ask an employee of macys. And that was not me on maury that was MimiCustomer/employee still its assault with a deadly weapon. And you might have been insulted, but not assaulted. You would do The Maury show if asked. My point has been made.
I have been ask a few times to do Maury, both here in Chicago and when I am in NYC, but Ts Vanessa/ Reina Valentino is quite sucessful on her own and I don't need a talk show to make me who I already am. Now we all know you are an ass and love to talk shit, so I'm gonna say kiss my ass bitch and move on. And no girl your point was not made.You know, you're quite the ignorant ghetto bitch. But judging by the company you keep, its par for the course. Now, I'm about to break your derelict ass down. I've left you alone up til this point but you asked for it. You make all these claims about the money you make and the hotels you stay in and the star that you think you are. I got 2 girls here I know personally, they have more class than you, they are more popular than you, and they definately have more money than you. Since you wanna be so fucking shallow(seems like you don't have a choice really) I'll dummie myself down for a minute to belittle your fucking ass. You don't know me. Think and say all the shit about I'm a cockchaser or faggot or any other insult you hurl at men that call your hoodrat ass out. I'm very successful and educated. Thats all you need to know. I don't turn tricks or do fucking drag shows. Now, when you reach the level these girls are on, come talk to me.

AllanahStarrNYC
11-29-2007, 07:02 AM
Ok Kids- recess at 1:30 PM :roll:

mimiplastique
11-29-2007, 07:11 AM
[quote=Mr_Choc69][quote=TsVanessa69][quote=braveman]They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well "Sooo let me get this straight. A Macy's employee asks another employee if he thinks you're a man or a woman. And if you had a tire iron you would go upside his head. Felony assault with a deadly weapon. A 2-5 yr prison sentence. But, you would gladly go on Maury Povich for the same is it a man or woman contest, where audience members only show up to humilate you for who you are. All for a measly $100. Priorities of a tranny. You can't make this shit up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Btw, I don't have to have all the facts to know that the Mcdonald's trannys will see prison time. Guaranteed.
Somebody can't read, A customer ask an employee of macys. And that was not me on maury that was MimiCustomer/employee still its assault with a deadly weapon. And you might have been insulted, but not assaulted. You would do The Maury show if asked. My point has been made.
I have been ask a few times to do Maury, both here in Chicago and when I am in NYC, but Ts Vanessa/ Reina Valentino is quite sucessful on her own and I don't need a talk show to make me who I already am. Now we all know you are an ass and love to talk shit, so I'm gonna say kiss my ass bitch and move on. And no girl your point was not made.You know, you're quite the ignorant ghetto bitch. But judging by the company you keep, its par for the course. Now, I'm about to break your derelict ass down. I've left you alone up til this point but you asked for it. You make all these claims about the money you make and the hotels you stay in and the star that you think you are. I got 2 girls here I know personally, they have more class than you, they are more popular than you, and they definately have more money than you. Since you wanna be so fucking shallow(seems like you don't have a choice really) I'll dummie myself down for a minute to belittle your fucking ass. You don't know me. Think and say all the shit about I'm a cockchaser or faggot or any other insult you hurl at men that call your hoodrat ass out. I'm very successful and educated. Thats all you need to know. I don't turn tricks or do fucking drag shows. Now, when you reach the level these girls are on, come talk to me.

I am still waiting on that phone call .... i have a nice surprise for you ....
the level those girls are on vanssa has surpassed many long years ago ...
now you go have some night mares about you know who and you know what

lol

suckseed
11-29-2007, 07:22 AM
I think that this thread's title would make an awesome name for a punk band.

LBCDO
11-29-2007, 09:10 AM
I think that this thread's title would make an awesome name for a punk band.

ROFL!!!!

justatransgirl
11-29-2007, 09:32 AM
Like I said, if people go around "standing up" for themselves by attacking others over insults or perceived slights, it's the attackers who will wind up behind bars.

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/media/news/e/2/b/e2bab7bc-d653-4837-8066-4c2ebb11b810/Original.jpg

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=742e6c3e-8533-4e0a-8fa5-702e33850fe6


OK - here's my take on this - getting back to the original topic...

The newspapers (as usual) are not adhering to the AP Stylebook guidelines for reporting on GLBT issues. TWO of these people look like t-girls to me. And one has an apparently female name (Lynn). And as we all know, many TS's don't have their legal docs in order.

Their ACTIONS don't sound very femme though. Being disrespected isn't reason to attack people - it's when you need a witty verbal reply that makes the insultor feel like an ass. (IMHO)

So the fact that they reacted like men is something that bothers me and makes me thing maybe they were in drag. But what bothers me is they all had prostitution arrests. Which points toward TS/TV or rent boys posing as TS. Who knows - the point is the way they acted like ghetto thugs.

But that doesn't forgive the newspaper from ignoring the Stylebook.

Ok, just my opinion, you may now resume flaming...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

mimiplastique
11-29-2007, 10:56 AM
Like I said, if people go around "standing up" for themselves by attacking others over insults or perceived slights, it's the attackers who will wind up behind bars.

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/media/news/e/2/b/e2bab7bc-d653-4837-8066-4c2ebb11b810/Original.jpg

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=742e6c3e-8533-4e0a-8fa5-702e33850fe6


OK - here's my take on this - getting back to the original topic...

The newspapers (as usual) are not adhering to the AP Stylebook guidelines for reporting on GLBT issues. TWO of these people look like t-girls to me. And one has an apparently female name (Lynn). And as we all know, many TS's don't have their legal docs in order.

Their ACTIONS don't sound very femme though. Being disrespected isn't reason to attack people - it's when you need a witty verbal reply that makes the insultor feel like an ass. (IMHO)

So the fact that they reacted like men is something that bothers me and makes me thing maybe they were in drag. But what bothers me is they all had prostitution arrests. Which points toward TS/TV or rent boys posing as TS. Who knows - the point is the way they acted like ghetto thugs.

But that doesn't forgive the newspaper from ignoring the Stylebook.

Ok, just my opinion, you may now resume flaming...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)
VERY GOOD POINTS MADE ... BUT THE BOYS IN THE MCDONADDS HAD TO DO MORE THAN JUST IGNORE THEM ...
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR PROSTITUTION ARRESTS????

justatransgirl
11-29-2007, 11:19 AM
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR PROSTITUTION ARRESTS????

Uh... I read the thread a few pages back... where the more recent article was posted...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

BBaggins06
11-29-2007, 11:46 AM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head.

OK fine, then when somebody shoots you in the head and kills you for coming at them with a tire iron, we'll have a candlelight vigil for you. Oh, and the legal term for that would "Justifiable Homicide". Mahalo

Matt

mimiplastique
11-29-2007, 12:57 PM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employyee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employye said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employyee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.

Vanessa - Lets say that the people who insulted the group of TG individuals were well educated, white-collared and it happen in a bank instead of a McDonalds. Would you say that the same reaction was warranted?YESS!!!! The white guy in Macys appeared to be well educated but he was ignorant. If I had a tire iron, I would have gladly went upside his head.

OK fine, then when somebody shoots you in the head and kills you for coming at them with a tire iron, we'll have a candlelight vigil for you. Oh, and the legal term for that would "Justifiable Homicide". Mahalo

Matt

hey matt
leave me a comment on myspace huh
comment my new pic .... it's always lovely when you stop by

BBaggins06
11-29-2007, 02:16 PM
hey matt
leave me a comment on myspace huh
comment my new pic .... it's always lovely when you stop by

Good morning Mimi. I just did. I know, I'm a total pushover. 8) Take care Mimi. Mahalo

Matt

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 04:49 PM
[quote=TsVanessa69][quote=braveman]


OK fine, then when somebody shoots you in the head and kills you for coming at them with a tire iron, we'll have a candlelight vigil for you. Oh, and the legal term for that would "Justifiable Homicide". Mahalo

Matt Well in my situation it went like this. I was in macys shopping and I was chatting with one of my favorite sales gals and she was showing me some Juicy Couture chockers, and I was trying one on. Now I was dressed normal, jeans, jacket Uggs, hair in a ponytail and a cap, no make-up. Like any other normal girl. So ther is a guy behind me with a sales person. I didn't even notice them as I was minding my business and shopping. Then the customer says to the sales person "I wonder if thats a man or a woman" and then the sales guy say " Hmm, I would like to know myself". It is none of either guys business what I was. I am a paying customer, and a Macys cardholder. It pissed me off to the point I excused myself with the salesgirl who was equally appalled, and proceded to light into them both. When I was finished the customer ran out and the sales person was told to go to the back room, I ask for a manager, which never came, instead an obviously gay employee from cosmetics was sent to "calm me down", nobody even ask me the employees name or anything. However several female customers applauded me for standing up and calling it out. It was unnecessary and unprevoked. Now if I was a flaming queen squealing and loud in the store, then I can understand, but I am not that type of person. So yes, if in rage I knocked the shit out of him, it would be justified. Now in order to see a transexuals point of view, you have to be a transexual. You have to suffer what we suffer. Its not about looks or passability, as girls that I see as flawless get picked on worse than me sometimes.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 04:52 PM
[quote="BBaggins06"][quote="TsVanessa69"][quote="Mr_Choc69"][quote="TsVanessa69"][quote=braveman]

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:07 PM
[quote="echimandu"][quote=TsVanessa69][quote=Mr_Choc69][quote=TsVanessa69][quote=braveman]
You know, you're quite the ignorant ghetto bitch. But judging by the company you keep, its par for the course. Now, I'm about to break your derelict ass down. I've left you alone up til this point but you asked for it. You make all these claims about the money you make and the hotels you stay in and the star that you think you are. I got 2 girls here I know personally, they have more class than you, they are more popular than you, and they definately have more money than you. Since you wanna be so fucking shallow(seems like you don't have a choice really) I'll dummie myself down for a minute to belittle your fucking ass. You don't know me. Think and say all the shit about I'm a cockchaser or faggot or any other insult you hurl at men that call your hoodrat ass out. I'm very successful and educated. Thats all you need to know. I don't turn tricks or do fucking drag shows. Now, when you reach the level these girls are on, come talk to me. UMMMMM let me see. You have never met me, or even seen me in public, so how the fuck does you cocksuking tranny chasing ass know how much class I have? A tranny forum with idiots like you is very different from the real world. I have the same level of clientelle as Allanah and Jada. My male model has worked with Madison. I have had several of Jada's clients come to see me when they visit Chicago. Now I have also had a few of Allanahs clients come to see me when I am in NY. Now you can't belittle me, because you have never met me. How do you know my income? Have you seen my home? I adapt to my enviroment. When I am at home I am chill, smokin a blunt and carrying on with my girlfriends. When I have a client, I am attentive, and on point. When I go to a club to perform, I am professional, and on time and dressed to kill, and my entertainment is top in the nation. I have attended black tie functions at the Civic Opera House here in Chicago, in an Escada suit that I bought out of my own money, and blended in perfectly with the ladies around me. I am very active in the gay and straight community on many levels. See porn and escorting is not all I have going for me, I can make a living with out either! Now fag choke on this dick and back the fuck up off me. I can go froom the hood, to high society without a flinch. So you just continue to make an ass of yourself and I LOVE it!

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:10 PM
The video is hysterical- but attacking people with tire irons, wet floor signs, and such is definately not acceptable- and I bet the behaviour of the employees proir was probably not acceptable either. I'm sure this group was provoked.

Yea kinda what i was sayin too, just in my way. Hey LBCDO aren't you coming to Chicago soon??

Um, no. Allanah says that physically attacking others, over real or perceived slights, is not acceptable.

You, on the other hand, say:

“Sometimes fast food employees........need to be put in their place.”

“Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level.”

“I say BRAVO to the girls for taking a stand. Right or wrong."

Your words.

Allanah clearly states that violence, in response to boorish behavior, is not acceptable. Your statements seem to indicate that you think otherwise. You can't have it both ways. Ok so I agree with Allanah that the employees behavior was not acceptable and that the girls were prevoked. You must be a McDonalds employee yourself.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 05:25 PM
Well in my situation it went like this. I was in macys shopping and I was chatting with one of my favorite sales gals and she was showing me some Juicy Couture chockers, and I was trying one on. Now I was dressed normal, jeans, jacket Uggs, hair in a ponytail and a cap, no make-up. Like any other normal girl. So ther is a guy behind me with a sales person. I didn't even notice them as I was minding my business and shopping. Then the customer says to the sales person "I wonder if thats a man or a woman" and then the sales guy say " Hmm, I would like to know myself". Its not about looks or passability, as girls that I see as flawless get picked on worse than me sometimes.

Sigh, you are contradicting yourself. First, the way you handled the situation in Macy's was ADMIRABLE.

Kudos to you for giving them a verbal lashing, they deserved it and it maade them squirrel away. Good. Again, good for you for asking to speak to the manager. In both instances, you handled the situation in a civil manner.

But then you go on to say "So yes, if in rage I knocked the shit out of him, it would be justified.[" Don't you see that makes no sense? If you had punched either of those people, you are the one who would have escalated the situation by commit assault. You woud have been the one arrested, possibly charged, and prosecuted for aasault. And NO would not be justified. Do you get it?

Um, transsexuals are not the only minorities in America, I hate to tell you. From what I see, HA members include people of many racial, ethnic, and religous minorities. I know that they could regale with with tales of instances in which they encountered some type of verbal or non-verbal bigotry? So please, save the "we are the only ones, who endure hostility, becasue we are different" speech.

Some of us have been on the receiving end of stupid remarks. You can be smart about it and handle it with you head, wit, and tongue, or you can handle it with you fists, shoes, tire irons and get locked up. You can't have it both ways.
I know transexuals are not the only minority in America, I'm Puerto Rican. :roll: So I get the spic jokes and the tranny jokes. From all colors. Even other Latinos, shit even other Purto-Ricans. Not tellin me anything new. Yes violence is wrong, but transexuals are human, and we get pushed to a limit you will never expierence. And some people pourpusly push us to that limit thinking nothing would ever happen to them. Even though kicking a punks ass for fucking with you may not seem right on one level, on another level, it is. We can go on and on, and will never agree, so lets just agree to disagree. Now the girls may have been wrong, and they will pay for their crime. We have not heard their side of the story. But, it will make some people think twice for fuckin with a trans.

BrendaQG
11-29-2007, 05:41 PM
A couple of things that bother me.


Especially if one is a ts- one should never fight physically.


So the fact that they reacted like men is something that bothers me and makes me thing maybe they were in drag.

http://www.briannaaustin.com/photogalleries/divas/NongTum/004.jpg

She want's to have a word with both of you about that.

Seriously though a transsexual can, and should be able to physically fight just as much as a Man or a GG. Some of yall act like you never saw a woman get into a fight, or raise her voice.

If what those three did in that Mcdonalds was justified is something else. Mabey now some people who would not pay attention to complaints, or even common respect as human beings will pay attention to getting their asses kicked.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 06:00 PM
[quote="TsVanessa69"][quote="braveman"][quote="TsVanessa69"][quote=AllanahStarrNYC]
Now lets get a few things straight. When I began my transition, aside from drag shows, one of the bartenders at the club I worked at got me a job with his house cleaning service. I do pay taxes. Not on all my income but some. I eat at McDonals alot. I love the breakfast sandwiches. But I am a paying customer. What right does it give a McDonalds employee the right to try and make a joke of me because I am a transexual? I have a McDonalds in my neighborhood with a few Mexican employees. The first few times I went in, they would all come to the front and snicker and stare and make comments about me in spanish. Now I am Puerto Rican and I speak spanish. Now I told them in Spanish to get used to seeing me, because I was going to be there alot, like it or not. Needless to say when the guys see me walking up, they hold the door open for me. Yet I can walk in Louis Vuitton and be greeted on a first name basis with hugs and kisses on the cheek. So whats the deal. Yes, I had that incident in Macy's with an ignorant customer, but, other than that, I am more warmly welcomed and respected on Michigan Ave than a McDonalds???

Night Rider
11-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Is this thread worth reading from half way through? Or is it the usual repetitive bullshit? Anyone...

trannybanger
11-29-2007, 06:12 PM
http://www.briannaaustin.com/photogalleries/divas/NongTum/004.jpg

She want's to have a word with both of you about that.


Please please don't dig yourself into a deeper hole.

Do you have any idea of the culture of Muay Thai?

Do you know how and why people do it?

Do you know anything about Nong Thoom?

Really, yeah, she fought because somone called her a man in McDonald's. Honestly this is a classy woman that took the high road to get where she wanted to be and did it with sophistication. You should learn something there.

BrendaQG
11-29-2007, 06:54 PM
Do you have any idea of the culture of Muay Thai?

Yes yes I do.



Do you know how and why people do it?


If memory serves me in Thailand it has not just entertainment value but cultural and religious significance.



Do you know anything about Nong Thoom?

Only what one could find out about her from seeing a doccumentary about her on that National Geographic channel.



Really, yeah, she fought because someone called her a man in McDonald's. Honestly this is a classy woman that took the high road to get where she wanted to be and did it with sophistication. You should learn something there.

I wasn't exactly talking about that. I was commenting on the concept that a transsexual woman should never physically fight. I was talking about the idea that it is manly to do so. The implication of the picture is to what someone like her would have to say about those ideas and not to try and justify what happened in the Mc Donalds.

What happend there is one thing. This notion that a transsexual should never fight physically or that it is mannish to do so bothers me. Surely there are those who would say (not openly) that it is manly to be good at math/science. I have heard much of that bull shit in my time, belived it for a while myself. I am tired of hearing such...sexist talk. Transsexuals can do anything and it does not reflect on the "realness" of their condition.

Oli
11-29-2007, 08:01 PM
Is this thread worth reading from half way through? Or is it the usual repetitive bullshit? Anyone...

Same shit, different thread NR

SarahG
11-29-2007, 08:04 PM
What happend there is one thing. This notion that a transsexual should never fight physically or that it is mannish to do so bothers me.... I am tired of hearing such...sexist talk. Transsexuals can do anything and it does not reflect on the "realness" of their condition.

So are you saying you wouldn't think anything of it if 3 GG's at a mcdonalds ran into the store welding a tire iron after being called say, fat?

What do you think the reaction to that would be if it were 3 lumberjack lesbian GG's responding to being hit on or being called ugly or whatever? What do you think the public would think of such a scenario?

Vicki Richter
11-29-2007, 08:10 PM
It would make sense for the person who did this to flee to the UK.

suckseed
11-29-2007, 08:47 PM
I am NOT a bum, and I resent that.

mbf
11-29-2007, 09:15 PM
resorting to PHYSICAL VIOLENCE is unacceptable IN ANY CASE unless it is a case of SELF-DEFENCE right after beeing ATTACKED PHYSICALLY.

no matter how much of verbal provocation has been going on.

end of the story.

ottorocket
11-29-2007, 09:20 PM
I stay away from Mcdonalds because of the Transfat.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 09:57 PM
I think ANYONE who walks into a McDonalds should not be shocked at who they may have to rub elbows with. I mean, Jesus Christ, bums have been known to take shits in the middle of McDonalds. Happened right here in Chicago. I gagged.

crayons
11-29-2007, 10:21 PM
Is this thread worth reading from half way through? Or is it the usual repetitive bullshit? Anyone...

I just read it and can summarize for you.

a human working at McDonalds noticed TsVanessa69 and called animal control. BrendaQG happened to be on the scene and expressed she had some animal control training- using pest bacterial aids she managed to tranquilize the beast.

when the animal regained consciousness it attempted to make contact. nobody could understand it until Oprah's dog whisperer was brought in and he managed to translate for humans:

TsVanessa69: mwahhh mwaahh mwaahhhh mwaaahhha ghwaka
Dog Whisperer: it says it wants a double mac with cheese, some fries and a coke
McDonalds employee: then why didn't it say so instead of attacking me and attempting to infect me with rabis?
Dog Whisperer: thats just a standard greeting for this breed.

Night Rider
11-29-2007, 10:24 PM
:lol: :lol: thanks for saving me the time

Legend
11-29-2007, 10:51 PM
Wait. Is Crayons a GG now, and is that what she looks like?

Crayons, why did you lie to me?

He has always claimed to be a gg but he used two different pics of a gg on this forum that he claimed to be him,he is in the same boat as blackmagic and vala_ts.


Let's see i'll go on a transgender forum and pretend to be a female so that i may get the attention that i do so deserve,if anyone questions my true gender or says anything that pisses me off i'll just throw a generic gay insult at them to try and make them feel bad.
http://i9.tinypic.com/6ksrn1c.jpg

echimandu
11-29-2007, 11:30 PM
They did not stand up for themselves. According to the report, they invaded the restaurant, one of them armed with a tire iron. Standing up for yourself is speaking to the manager and then contacting McDonald's regional office to file a complaint. "Administering" ass kickings can and should get one locked up.

I seriously doubt that the attack was initiated by the employees. We don't know what words may have been exchanged, but an insult does not grant people the right to storm a restaurant.

As far as the report calling them drag queens and transvestites. Well we don't know if they were transgendered women or in fact drag queens. Fuck all that, sometimes punks have to be dealt with on their level. That managment complaint bullshit goes no where. What manager cares what some minimum wage employee says to a transgenedred person? Who knows what the employee said to the trans woman to set this whole thing off. I have been in the same situation a few times in various stages of my transition, and it starts with a flip remark from some dumb ass uneducated punk whos best shot in life is flipping burgers and making fries. As the picture proved, at least one of the persons was a pre-op transexual, if not 2 with their gay friend. Now Mimi and I were victims of an incident recently when we left a theatre with 2 gay friends. I say GOOD the trans girls showed those punks that we mean business too. Now thats just my opinion. I just cussed a guy out an hour ago at Macys, for asking an employee if he thought I was a man or a woman. I embarrassed them both so bad, the guy ran out and the employee hid with shame in a back room. Did management give a fuck? No they set a gay employee to calm me down and a fake promise that it would never happen again. Did they repremand the employee? NO. So fuck it, I'm glad the sisters tore that bitch up.Ok, this is the last time I prove your dumb ass wrong. A group of transgendered women sued a department store(can't remember which one) in New York a couple of years ago. They won their lawsuit. Their claims were the same as what you speak of. Being slandered for who they are. I can't find the story, but I know someone here will. So again, you have no reason to retaliate like you do. You choose to act this way. I'm done with you're tired ragged excuse for a drag quenn entertainer escort.

BrendaQG
11-29-2007, 11:32 PM
What happend there is one thing. This notion that a transsexual should never fight physically or that it is mannish to do so bothers me.... I am tired of hearing such...sexist talk. Transsexuals can do anything and it does not reflect on the "realness" of their condition.

So are you saying you wouldn't think anything of it if 3 GG's at a mcdonalds ran into the store welding a tire iron after being called say, fat?

What do you think the reaction to that would be if it were 3 lumberjack lesbian GG's responding to being hit on or being called ugly or whatever? What do you think the public would think of such a scenario?

Yet another angle that continues to bother me. You have in your response assume that it took little provocation to set those people off. Transsexual/transgender people take allot of crap and let most of it slide. It can just be part of life. That tells me that it was likely more than calling someone "ugly".

That said there is a legal concept called "fighting words".

http://americandefenseleague.com/fightwds.htm

Legal definition of 'fighting words'

Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience. N.A.A.C.P. v. Clairborne Hardware Co., Miss., 458 U.S. 886, 102 S.Ct. 3409, 73 L.Ed.2d 1215 (1982). Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight. City of Seattle v. Camby, 104 Wash.2d 49, 701 P.2d 499, 500.

The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 62 S.Ct. 766, 86 L.Ed. 1031.

SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

http://law.onecle.com/constitution/amendment-01/42-fighting-words.html

If those employees uttered some "fighting words" that can be legally considered tantamount to a slap to the face. Then the "ladies" will get off.

I have nothing else to say about this.

crayons
11-29-2007, 11:34 PM
Wait. Is Crayons a GG now, and is that what she looks like?

Crayons, why did you lie to me?

what do you mean am I a gg now? what the fuck was i before?

crayons
11-29-2007, 11:37 PM
He has always claimed to be a gg but he used two different pics of a gg on this forum that he claimed to be him,he is in the same boat as blackmagic and vala_ts.


Let's see i'll go on a transgender forum and pretend to be a female so that i may get the attention that i do so deserve,if anyone questions my true gender or says anything that pisses me off i'll just throw a generic gay insult at them to try and make them feel bad.

you're the reason why chainsaws and power tools were created. i know it sucks that not everyone in the world has a cock. get used to it.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 11:47 PM
[quote=braveman] Ok, this is the last time I prove your dumb ass wrong. A group of transgendered women sued a department store(can't remember which one) in New York a couple of years ago. They won their lawsuit. Their claims were the same as what you speak of. Being slandered for who they are. I can't find the story, but I know someone here will. So again, you have no reason to retaliate like you do. You choose to act this way. I'm done with you're tired ragged excuse for a drag quenn entertainer escort.
Look bitch, I said in my case the manger never showed up. So NO you still did not prove ME wrong about MY situation. I act how I feel when I am the person being attacked for NO reason. You said you were done a few pages ago, yet you faggot ass keeps posting. So fag learn to spell at least before you try to read!. Bitch if you are done then you would shut the fuck up and mind your cum drinking trick ass business!!! :roll:
!

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 11:50 PM
Let's summarize.

Brenda would fight for the right to dine comfortably at McDonalds.

Suckseed resents the label "bum", just because he pooped in broad daylight at the Golden Arches.

Vicki has moved from Costa Rica to England.

Vanessa need to take a vacation to south Florida.

Crayons does not have a penis, and she does not look like her first avatar.

John Waters needs to make a film about Tgirl gang violence.
Instead of Florida, can I go home to Puerto-Rico for the holidays? I am still considering that!

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 11:54 PM
Is this thread worth reading from half way through? Or is it the usual repetitive bullshit? Anyone...

I just read it and can summarize for you.

a human working at McDonalds noticed TsVanessa69 and called animal control. BrendaQG happened to be on the scene and expressed she had some animal control training- using pest bacterial aids she managed to tranquilize the beast.

when the animal regained consciousness it attempted to make contact. nobody could understand it until Oprah's dog whisperer was brought in and he managed to translate for humans:

TsVanessa69: mwahhh mwaahh mwaahhhh mwaaahhha ghwaka
Dog Whisperer: it says it wants a double mac with cheese, some fries and a coke
McDonalds employee: then why didn't it say so instead of attacking me and attempting to infect me with rabis?
Dog Whisperer: thats just a standard greeting for this breed.Crayons is a fag who wishes he was me. Notice I had nothing to do with the original post, yet he choose to put my name in his response.

TsVanessa69
11-29-2007, 11:59 PM
Crayons is a fag who wishes he was me. Notice I had nothing to do with the original post, yet he choose to put my name in his response.I see that.

Crayons, why insult Vanessa?
Fag wants to be trans
Fag doesn't have the balls to go through transition
Fag mad because I did and made something of myself
Fag jacks off to my clips on my site
Crayons is not alone. There are so many gay men who wish they were me.
And they have my site on the top of their favs list.
I know of a few here in Chicago.
Crayons, you are not alone.

tsntx
11-30-2007, 12:03 AM
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ok so its not that funny... but i did stay at a holiday inn once

crayons
11-30-2007, 12:21 AM
Crayons is a fag who wishes he was me. Notice I had nothing to do with the original post, yet he choose to put my name in his response.I see that.

Crayons, why insult Vanessa?

what do you mean insult vanessa? how can you insult someone who looks like mutated road kill? vanessa still looks like a guy, except the head has been placed on a marathon runners body and given scars. we're talking about a hooker that eats at mcdonalds: if that doesn't spell herpes and i don't know what does.

as for you am not sure whether you want to fuck with me or what: i have no beef with you but if you continue acting how you are i might be forced to take it as disrespect.

keeping rocking the ass avatar or begin looking like one.

gnight

tsntx
11-30-2007, 12:24 AM
hey i love mcdonalds :(

AllanahStarrNYC
11-30-2007, 12:25 AM
Crayons is a fag who wishes he was me. Notice I had nothing to do with the original post, yet he choose to put my name in his response.I see that.

Crayons, why insult Vanessa?

what do you mean insult vanessa? how can you insult someone who looks like mutated road kill? vanessa still looks like a guy, except the head has been placed on a marathon runners body and given scars. we're talking about a hooker that eats at mcdonalds: if that doesn't spell herpes and i don't know what does.

as for you am not sure whether you want to fuck with me or what: i have no beef with you but if you continue acting how you are i might be forced to take it as disrespect.

keeping rocking the ass avatar or begin looking like one.

gnight

you do attack people and girls here all the time-
i highly doubt that you are a gg
and if you are you seem to have penis envy because you act like
a butch queen

Legend
11-30-2007, 12:26 AM
He has always claimed to be a gg but he used two different pics of a gg on this forum that he claimed to be him,he is in the same boat as blackmagic and vala_ts.


Let's see i'll go on a transgender forum and pretend to be a female so that i may get the attention that i do so deserve,if anyone questions my true gender or says anything that pisses me off i'll just throw a generic gay insult at them to try and make them feel bad.

you're the reason why chainsaws and power tools were created. i know it sucks that not everyone in the world has a cock. get used to it.

You are the reason straight jackets were invented,seriously how much of a fucking physcopath can you be first off pretending to be a female when your probably jabba the hut,secondly posting two different pictures claiming they were you and you know what really gives you away your bitter sarcastic attidude so you can take your make believe vagina back to crayon's fantasy land were fat bald guys are considered females.

crayons
11-30-2007, 12:29 AM
you do attack people and girls here all the time-
i highly doubt that you are a gg
and if you are you seem to have penis envy because you act like
a butch queen

i only attack when attacked. looks like you'd like to join the party. trust me; i can take care of you 3 either 1 at a time or all at once. just tell me when to start: or have you already gone crying to the moderators?

thx1138
11-30-2007, 12:31 AM
In light of this incident McDonalds may have to issue its employees tasers with which to defend themselves.

Mr_Choc69
11-30-2007, 12:31 AM
Damn. How did such a comical thread turn into a massive argument?

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 12:31 AM
:claps :popcorn

crayons
11-30-2007, 12:32 AM
gnightOh go fuck yourself, drag hag. Now we have to listen to some opinionated dyke who wants to play games with their identity?[/quote]

if i were you i'd shut up. your the easiest target of all three with your prison tattoo look. all you need is an orange t-shirt and you're basically this guy.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/1103061allgier1.jpg

thx1138
11-30-2007, 12:33 AM
Only 15 pages? Slowing down so soon? You need only 93 more pages to make a new world record.

crayons
11-30-2007, 12:34 AM
this should be fun. I'll give the heshe's time to re-load while i run some errands. see y'all tomorrows for the finale.

outro

MrsKellyPierce
11-30-2007, 12:37 AM
This whole thread is pathetic. They broke the law now they have to deal with the punishment. This case has nothing to do with the girls you men are hating on (Vanessa and MiMi) so really god shut up.

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 12:40 AM
This whole thread is pathetic. They broke the law now they have to deal with the punishment. This case has nothing to do with the girls you men are hating on (Vanessa and MiMi) so really god shut up.

Stop spoiling the fun...

:popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn
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Legend
11-30-2007, 12:41 AM
this should be fun. I'll give the heshe's time to re-load while i run some errands. see y'all tomorrows for the finale.

outro

LOL,in other words your running away because you know any of those girls would pwn your make beleive ass.

suckseed
11-30-2007, 12:42 AM
Ladies! Please! May I suggest you NOT insult appearances? That's really juvenile. Signed, Brad Pitt.
*covers ears, runs away*

mbf
11-30-2007, 12:43 AM
This whole thread is pathetic. They broke the law now they have to deal with the punishment. This case has nothing to do with the girls you men are hating on (Vanessa and MiMi) so really god shut up.

Stop spoiling the fun...

:popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn
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Rider,

do you honestly think a voice of reason will stop the salvage-cru from getting all-salvaged-up?

:lol:

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 12:47 AM
Rider,

do you honestly think a voice of reason will stop the salvage-cru from getting all-salvaged-up?

:lol:

Very valid point :lol:

This one's gonna get ugly!

suckseed
11-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Well, I like Crayons and Nicole, and I can't say I'm happy about this.
*throws flare at t-rex, runs to outhouse*

AllanahStarrNYC
11-30-2007, 12:58 AM
you do attack people and girls here all the time-
i highly doubt that you are a gg
and if you are you seem to have penis envy because you act like
a butch queen

i only attack when attacked. looks like you'd like to join the party. trust me; i can take care of you 3 either 1 at a time or all at once. just tell me when to start: or have you already gone crying to the moderators?

FYI

I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Whatever patheric insults you think you can hurl at me, you go right AHEAD. If you think you can disturb me or hurt me by uttering mean insults you are so far mistaken.

I would not give you the pleasure of disturbing or getting a reaction from me which is what you wish. I have heard it all and worse in my life so if you think a little internet rant will hurt me- then go ahead and make believe you will. If that gives you pleasure- as it clearly does since you seem to do it all the time.

You must be a VERY unhappy person whose only power is to be mean behind the pc. Pretenf to be a woman- whatever you do.

So go ahead and do what you wish- just remember I will have the upper hand as I will delete your post and not reposnd which will ony make you more angry as I will not give you the pleasure of making me upset.

Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 01:01 AM
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

The double-standards at HA are at work...

Quinn
11-30-2007, 01:03 AM
If those employees uttered some "fighting words" that can be legally considered tantamount to a slap to the face. Then the "ladies" will get off.

I have nothing else to say about this.

This is so incredibly uninformed and absurd that I'm not even sure where to begin. One individual, Danny Mitchell, is being charged with aggravated assault. The other, Lynn Gillespie, is being charged with assault. Furthermore, it's my understanding that all three individual have prior felony convictions. Guess what? Mitchell and Gillespie are definitely going to do time – very serious time in Mitchell's case (apparently the whole thing was caught on surveillance cameras that show the three drag queens initiating a physical confrontation).

-Quinn

bezane
11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
The law is the law and taking matters into your own hands is wrong. But I think the main story is missed.

Yes. Okay. It was funny. But it shows the mainstream media for what they really are. THAT, is the story here and no one here is offended by that?

They've made a joke out of a crime. A crime that should not have made primetime national news. It tips their hand as to the way they manipulate us in regards to politics, crime, and our overall human condition.

An editor/news director chose this because of shock value. And the headline was aimed to be provocative. Again funny as shit, but that kind of stuff was for "The Soup" or another show that wants to turn reality on its head.

Shame on the "NEWS." There should be no defense of these "women" but outrage at the belittlement of the community. This is Journalism School 101 that this is a no no.

Seems blown out of proportion as well. Believe me if I mean to do harm with a tire iron, some people are going to be seriously fucked up. And those "scratches" covered by GIANT BAND AIDS seems like Mr. Waters make-up crew did the right job for a B Movie classic. And the manager was never shown. Just the ambulance leaving. He chose to be escorted away to cover his ass in case he has a further complaint.

Those French Fries come out nuked. If I hit you with some fresh grease you're going to know it.

Funny. Sad. Behavior on all sides was probably bad. It gives humans a bad name.

Even the interview with the employess was handled with a wink wink.

And for all the people here that think doing a prison stint is worth it because you were insulted you must have a lot of time on your hands.

The thread was meant to be funny. And many posters decided to pump life into the crime and the outrage. Let's start funneling theanger at the people that report it. That report probably sent a couple of groups of kids to cruise some drag queens and give them a "justified beating." Responsible jounalism. I think not.

echimandu
11-30-2007, 02:29 AM
[quote=braveman] Ok, this is the last time I prove your dumb ass wrong. A group of transgendered women sued a department store(can't remember which one) in New York a couple of years ago. They won their lawsuit. Their claims were the same as what you speak of. Being slandered for who they are. I can't find the story, but I know someone here will. So again, you have no reason to retaliate like you do. You choose to act this way. I'm done with you're tired ragged excuse for a drag quenn entertainer escort.
Look bitch, I said in my case the manger never showed up. So NO you still did not prove ME wrong about MY situation. I act how I feel when I am the person being attacked for NO reason. You said you were done a few pages ago, yet you faggot ass keeps posting. So fag learn to spell at least before you try to read!. Bitch if you are done then you would shut the fuck up and mind your cum drinking trick ass business!!! :roll:
!Learn to spell? Do you remember SALVAGELY! :lol: :lol: You dumb illiterate faggot trick ass low class bitch. Why would the manager show up to deal with trash like yourself.

tsntx
11-30-2007, 03:51 AM
The law is the law and taking matters into your own hands is wrong. But I think the main story is missed.

Yes. Okay. It was funny. But it shows the mainstream media for what they really are. THAT, is the story here and no one here is offended by that?

They've made a joke out of a crime. A crime that should not have made primetime national news. It tips their hand as to the way they manipulate us in regards to politics, crime, and our overall human condition.

An editor/news director chose this because of shock value. And the headline was aimed to be provocative. Again funny as shit, but that kind of stuff was for "The Soup" or another show that wants to turn reality on its head.

Shame on the "NEWS." There should be no defense of these "women" but outrage at the belittlement of the community. This is Journalism School 101 that this is a no no.

Seems blown out of proportion as well. Believe me if I mean to do harm with a tire iron, some people are going to be seriously fucked up. And those "scratches" covered by GIANT BAND AIDS seems like Mr. Waters make-up crew did the right job for a B Movie classic. And the manager was never shown. Just the ambulance leaving. He chose to be escorted away to cover his ass in case he has a further complaint.

Those French Fries come out nuked. If I hit you with some fresh grease you're going to know it.

Funny. Sad. Behavior on all sides was probably bad. It gives humans a bad name.

Even the interview with the employess was handled with a wink wink.

And for all the people here that think doing a prison stint is worth it because you were insulted you must have a lot of time on your hands.

The thread was meant to be funny. And many posters decided to pump life into the crime and the outrage. Let's start funneling theanger at the people that report it. That report probably sent a couple of groups of kids to cruise some drag queens and give them a "justified beating." Responsible jounalism. I think not.

agreed

Oli
11-30-2007, 04:19 AM
The law is the law and taking matters into your own hands is wrong. But I think the main story is missed.

Yes. Okay. It was funny. But it shows the mainstream media for what they really are. THAT, is the story here and no one here is offended by that?

They've made a joke out of a crime. A crime that should not have made primetime national news. It tips their hand as to the way they manipulate us in regards to politics, crime, and our overall human condition.

An editor/news director chose this because of shock value. And the headline was aimed to be provocative. Again funny as shit, but that kind of stuff was for "The Soup" or another show that wants to turn reality on its head.

Shame on the "NEWS." There should be no defense of these "women" but outrage at the belittlement of the community. This is Journalism School 101 that this is a no no.

Seems blown out of proportion as well. Believe me if I mean to do harm with a tire iron, some people are going to be seriously fucked up. And those "scratches" covered by GIANT BAND AIDS seems like Mr. Waters make-up crew did the right job for a B Movie classic. And the manager was never shown. Just the ambulance leaving. He chose to be escorted away to cover his ass in case he has a further complaint.

Those French Fries come out nuked. If I hit you with some fresh grease you're going to know it.

Funny. Sad. Behavior on all sides was probably bad. It gives humans a bad name.

Even the interview with the employess was handled with a wink wink.

And for all the people here that think doing a prison stint is worth it because you were insulted you must have a lot of time on your hands.

The thread was meant to be funny. And many posters decided to pump life into the crime and the outrage. Let's start funneling theanger at the people that report it. That report probably sent a couple of groups of kids to cruise some drag queens and give them a "justified beating." Responsible jounalism. I think not.

Dude, don't do that again. Reason, logic and empathy have no place in this discussion. :wink:

bezane
11-30-2007, 04:22 AM
You are so very right. Funny man. Funny stuff.

arnie666
11-30-2007, 04:56 AM
I can't be arsed to read this entire thread. Has there been talk of ass rape, momma insults, accusations of faggitry, from the usual suspects?

Some bloke should make a film called 'trannys in da hood' and get the salvagely crew to act in it. Bet they'd love the camera :D

As for the battle of the burgers , well I've wrecked a few kebab housed in my time so I'm can't say fuk all teally. if I acted all outraged I'd be a hippocrite. So my outrage level is right now at 'perturbed '

Have to say though they pulled that in the restaurant I used to work at many moons ago the chef was a bit handy with a cleaver. And he even scared me. Done a job on a load of pikeys who tried to leave without paying once. Fight spilled out into the strett .Rather good fun actually.

gunn
11-30-2007, 05:28 AM
People why are we hearing so much reports of shemales involved in violence these days?I think that shemales these days are under alot of stress and need way to relive that stress in a safe controled invirenment.Im not going to say whats my solution becauce i belive you all know what it is.Someone in the world better make it happen or any of us cloud find our self under attack from a stressed out shemales.lol

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 06:08 AM
you do attack people and girls here all the time-
i highly doubt that you are a gg
and if you are you seem to have penis envy because you act like
a butch queen

i only attack when attacked. looks like you'd like to join the party. trust me; i can take care of you 3 either 1 at a time or all at once. just tell me when to start: or have you already gone crying to the moderators?

FYI

I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Whatever patheric insults you think you can hurl at me, you go right AHEAD. If you think you can disturb me or hurt me by uttering mean insults you are so far mistaken.

I would not give you the pleasure of disturbing or getting a reaction from me which is what you wish. I have heard it all and worse in my life so if you think a little internet rant will hurt me- then go ahead and make believe you will. If that gives you pleasure- as it clearly does since you seem to do it all the time.

You must be a VERY unhappy person whose only power is to be mean behind the pc. Pretenf to be a woman- whatever you do.

So go ahead and do what you wish- just remember I will have the upper hand as I will delete your post and not reposnd which will ony make you more angry as I will not give you the pleasure of making me upset.

Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
i am so glad that someone got crayons ass together !!!! who ever thought it would be Mrs. Starr
and to crayons

na na na na na !!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :peanutbutter :peanutbutter :peanutbutter :peanutbutter :peanutbutter :peanutbutter :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 06:17 AM
you do attack people and girls here all the time-
i highly doubt that you are a gg
and if you are you seem to have penis envy because you act like
a butch queen

i only attack when attacked. looks like you'd like to join the party. trust me; i can take care of you 3 either 1 at a time or all at once. just tell me when to start: or have you already gone crying to the moderators?
wow this is your ugly face ????
and you want to say someone looks like road kill... you look like your about to fall out dead of a.i.d.s. any minute .... UGLY nasty greasy hair and a fucked up smile (thats why your mouth is closed ).... i will make a thread all about you and see who lives for you and who does not you miserable faggot !
YOU ATTACK FOR NO REASON AT ALL AND YOU SHOULD BE BANNED
BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND A WAY WITH YOUR LOSER ASS TO BRING YOU HATE BACK TO THE FORUM ...
WHAT KIND OF LIFE HAVE YOU KNOWN ???? PHANTOM OF HUNG ANGELS !!!!!

lust4ts
11-30-2007, 06:22 AM
The picture you refer to is not even Crayons, Crayons is a 330lb hairy tattooed biker from Maine!

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 06:47 AM
The picture you refer to is not even Crayons, Crayons is a 330lb hairy tattooed biker from Maine!
DO YOU LIKE CRAYONS ??? I MEAN LIKE HIS WAY WITH WORDS ???? NOTHING SHADY ....?

lust4ts
11-30-2007, 06:52 AM
The picture you refer to is not even Crayons, Crayons is a 330lb hairy tattooed biker from Maine!
DO YOU LIKE CRAYONS ??? I MEAN LIKE HIS WAY WITH WORDS ???? NOTHING SHADY ....?

Hell no, he is a guy who posts pics of girls tits for kicks, I remember when the whole GG shit started, he had a pic of a hot girl for an avatar, someone asumed it might be him and it snowballed from there so to speak. I always knew it was a guy, I wasn't fooled, I'm telling you he is a 330lb totooed biker from main, and one with a bad attitude to match!

TheOne1
11-30-2007, 06:55 AM
wait...crayons isnt a girl? why would someone pretend to be a girl?

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 06:59 AM
wait...crayons isnt a girl? why would someone pretend to be a girl?

WAS THIS A TRICK QUESTION ???? LOL

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 07:01 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 07:03 AM
wow this is your ugly face ????
and you want to say someone looks like road kill... you look like your about to fall out dead of a.i.d.s. any minute .... UGLY nasty greasy hair and a fucked up smile (thats why your mouth is closed ).... i will make a thread all about you and see who lives for you and who does not you miserable faggot !
YOU ATTACK FOR NO REASON AT ALL AND YOU SHOULD BE BANNED
BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND A WAY WITH YOUR LOSER ASS TO BRING YOU HATE BACK TO THE FORUM ...
WHAT KIND OF LIFE HAVE YOU KNOWN ???? PHANTOM OF HUNG ANGELS !!!!!

or maybe use this post as an example... i'm just sayin'

SmashysmashY
11-30-2007, 07:05 AM
wait...crayons isnt a girl? why would someone pretend to be a girl?

anyone who fails to see the humor in that is just hopeless in my opinion.

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:06 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

OH IF I MAY ....
Crayons has a bad problem with giving the girls their his two cents when no one aske for his peeny in the first place ...
He will publicly cut you up into shreds to make his self feel better .
He speaks well and has a wonder way of reading and cutting people no doubt ... but everyone ??? wtf man he is a vicious snake and he needs to be drained of his hung angels poison !!!

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 07:08 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

OH IF I MAY ....
Crayons has a bad problem with giving the girls their his two cents when no one aske for his peeny in the first place ...
He will publicly cut you up into shreds to make his self feel better .
He speaks well and has a wonder way of reading and cutting people no doubt ... but everyone ??? wtf man he is a vicious snake and he needs to be drained of his hung angels poison !!!

sure you may, now allow me:

how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?

shouldn't it work both ways?

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:14 AM
wow this is your ugly face ????
and you want to say someone looks like road kill... you look like your about to fall out dead of a.i.d.s. any minute .... UGLY nasty greasy hair and a fucked up smile (thats why your mouth is closed ).... i will make a thread all about you and see who lives for you and who does not you miserable faggot !
YOU ATTACK FOR NO REASON AT ALL AND YOU SHOULD BE BANNED
BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND A WAY WITH YOUR LOSER ASS TO BRING YOU HATE BACK TO THE FORUM ...
WHAT KIND OF LIFE HAVE YOU KNOWN ???? PHANTOM OF HUNG ANGELS !!!!!

or maybe use this post as an example... i'm just sayin'


with all of your posts and tending to others affairs maybe you should read all of what has been said by crayons .... some very racist and out of line shit about people from other countries get your facts straight crayon fan

SmashysmashY
11-30-2007, 07:14 AM
wait...crayons isnt a girl? why would someone pretend to be a girl?

anyone who fails to see the humor in that is just hopeless in my opinion. If it was a joke, was it really that funny?

if it was meant to be a joke then no not really

echimandu
11-30-2007, 07:17 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

OH IF I MAY ....
Crayons has a bad problem with giving the girls their his two cents when no one aske for his peeny in the first place ...
He will publicly cut you up into shreds to make his self feel better .
He speaks well and has a wonder way of reading and cutting people no doubt ... but everyone ??? wtf man he is a vicious snake and he needs to be drained of his hung angels poison !!!

sure you may, now allow me:

how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?

shouldn't it work both ways?My thoughts exactly tubgirl. One of them eventually will get more than a ban. :twisted:

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:19 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

OH IF I MAY ....
Crayons has a bad problem with giving the girls their his two cents when no one aske for his peeny in the first place ...
He will publicly cut you up into shreds to make his self feel better .
He speaks well and has a wonder way of reading and cutting people no doubt ... but everyone ??? wtf man he is a vicious snake and he needs to be drained of his hung angels poison !!!

sure you may, now allow me:

how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?

shouldn't it work both ways?


you have a good point ....BUT he attacks all tgirls and has his followers like lord voldermort or some shit

SmashysmashY
11-30-2007, 07:21 AM
i never saw crayons say racism. put a link to their racist comments

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 07:22 AM
wow this is your ugly face ????
and you want to say someone looks like road kill... you look like your about to fall out dead of a.i.d.s. any minute .... UGLY nasty greasy hair and a fucked up smile (thats why your mouth is closed ).... i will make a thread all about you and see who lives for you and who does not you miserable faggot !
YOU ATTACK FOR NO REASON AT ALL AND YOU SHOULD BE BANNED
BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND A WAY WITH YOUR LOSER ASS TO BRING YOU HATE BACK TO THE FORUM ...
WHAT KIND OF LIFE HAVE YOU KNOWN ???? PHANTOM OF HUNG ANGELS !!!!!

or maybe use this post as an example... i'm just sayin'


with all of your posts and tending to others affairs maybe you should read all of what has been said by crayons .... some very racist and out of line shit about people from other countries get your facts straight crayon fan

look, i'll be the first to admit i don't read all the posts here. how could i? and i wouldn't call myself a "fan" of anyone. i just see it as pointing out what i think should be obvious. and from what i have read, i repeat: from what i have read, there are far worse things said on here than what crayons posts.

goodnight, and thank you for being rational with me...

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:23 AM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.


Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?

wow...

OH IF I MAY ....
Crayons has a bad problem with giving the girls their his two cents when no one aske for his peeny in the first place ...
He will publicly cut you up into shreds to make his self feel better .
He speaks well and has a wonder way of reading and cutting people no doubt ... but everyone ??? wtf man he is a vicious snake and he needs to be drained of his hung angels poison !!!

sure you may, now allow me:

how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?

shouldn't it work both ways?My thoughts exactly tubgirl. One of them eventually will get more than a ban. :twisted:

not worried !!!! :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: bing

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 07:26 AM
Mimi, don't even bother explaining to him. Crayons is an asshole. If you and Vanessa got backed into a corner by the various assholes that come here, and you called some of them "fags", too bad for them. Not only are many of these guys assholes that get away with murder; many of them ARE closet fags. When that asshole "cockcraver" was saying that you deserved to get choked, hardly any of these "gentlemen" opened their mouthes to call him on it. You don't owe any explanations to "Tubgirl".

i never said she owed me an explanation. she started the discussion with me. once again, from what i have read, they were not backed into a corner by others, they started spewing bile before that happened.

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:26 AM
i never saw crayons say racism. put a link to their racist comments
now i don't know how to browse hung angels like a prop so you tell me how and then i will provide you with various links to crayons referring to me as an anorexic Ethiopian boy with what everit was he said

lust4ts
11-30-2007, 07:29 AM
i never saw crayons say racism. put a link to their racist comments
now i don't know how to browse hung angels like a prop so you tell me how and then i will provide you with various links to crayons referring to me as an anorexic Ethiopian boy with what everit was he said

You have to go to something crayons posted, like earlier in this post, click on profile, it will be at the bottom of the posts, then click on check all posts by crayons and go through the pages until you see them!

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:31 AM
Mimi, don't even bother explaining to him. Crayons is an asshole. If you and Vanessa got backed into a corner by the various assholes that come here, and you called some of them "fags", too bad for them. Not only are many of these guys assholes that get away with murder; many of them ARE closet fags. When that asshole "cockcraver" was saying that you deserved to get choked, hardly any of these "gentlemen" opened their mouthes to call him on it. You don't owe any explanations to "Tubgirl".

i never said she owed me an explanation. she started the discussion with me. once again, from what i have read, they were not backed into a corner by others, they started spewing bile before that happened.
CORRECTION !!!!!!
THE THREADS WERE MADE ABOUT SERIOUS TOPICS LIKE THE FIGHT ME AND BRENDA HAD AND HE HIGH JACKED THE TREAD SAYING ALL TYPES OF BULLSHIT ....
I AM BEAUTIFUL HEAD TO TOE !!!! NO NEED TO PICK A FIGHT WITH SOMEONE WHO WILL NEVER SHOW HIS FACE LET ALONE HIS HORRID BODY !

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:34 AM
i never saw crayons say racism. put a link to their racist comments
now i don't know how to browse hung angels like a prop so you tell me how and then i will provide you with various links to crayons referring to me as an anorexic Ethiopian boy with what everit was he said

You have to go to something crayons posted, like earlier in this post, click on profile, it will be at the bottom of the posts, then click on check all posts by crayons and go through the pages until you see them!

WILL DO BRB THANKS BABE

SmashysmashY
11-30-2007, 07:34 AM
i never saw crayons say racism. put a link to their racist comments
now i don't know how to browse hung angels like a prop so you tell me how and then i will provide you with various links to crayons referring to me as an anorexic Ethiopian boy with what everit was he said

i can't defend racism but i'm not sure if that is racism. it would be one thing if they said they hate ethiopians but all they did was call you an ethiopian. is there anything worse than that?

mimiplastique
11-30-2007, 07:43 AM
CORRECTION !!!!!!
THE THREADS WERE MADE ABOUT SERIOUS TOPICS LIKE THE FIGHT ME AND BRENDA HAD AND HE HIGH JACKED THE TREAD SAYING ALL TYPES OF BULLSHIT .... I remember that.

So lets not pretend that Crayons hasn't stuck his bullshit two cents in and viciously insulted people. He HAS.
thank you !!!

Legend
11-30-2007, 07:45 AM
It's obvious tubgirl is defending a fellow pretender,he is kind of in the same boat as crayons when he made his tubgirl name his intentions was to pretend he was a transsexual,crayons referred to some of the girls with homophobic gestures and you don't think insulting a mod warrants a ban warning.Tubboy take your bias opinions and go back in your cave.

tsntx
11-30-2007, 11:10 AM
lol

MrsKellyPierce
11-30-2007, 11:19 AM
Only at Mcdonalds...will this thread die already lol

thx1138
11-30-2007, 01:24 PM
yawn.

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 02:45 PM
It's obvious tubgirl is defending a fellow pretender,he is kind of in the same boat as crayons when he made his tubgirl name his intentions was to pretend he was a transsexual,crayons referred to some of the girls with homophobic gestures and you don't think insulting a mod warrants a ban warning.Tubboy take your bias opinions and go back in your cave.

i am not trying to defend anyone. and why can you not get it through your head that i never pretended to be anything. like i tried to tell you before, when i signed up, i couldn't think of a handle i wanted to use. i chose an internet icon. it would have been the same thing if i would have chosen to call myself goatse or lemonparty. they are just terms that many people know.

now, find something else to insult me with...

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:36 PM
Crayons is a fag who wishes he was me. Notice I had nothing to do with the original post, yet he choose to put my name in his response.I see that.

Crayons, why insult Vanessa?

what do you mean insult vanessa? how can you insult someone who looks like mutated road kill? vanessa still looks like a guy, except the head has been placed on a marathon runners body and given scars. we're talking about a hooker that eats at mcdonalds: if that doesn't spell herpes and i don't know what does.

as for you am not sure whether you want to fuck with me or what: i have no beef with you but if you continue acting how you are i might be forced to take it as disrespect.

keeping rocking the ass avatar or begin looking like one.

gnightJealous Bitch, you are a fag, using fake pics. A hater. A joke. Now even the fake pic you are using now is ugly. You can't come for me sir. I would wear your faggot ass out.

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:38 PM
Crayons is a looser. A fat ugly guy who's only contact with humans is thru the internet. Nonsexual, because a male or female or transwoman would not go near him, even if he had money. A FUCKIN LOOSER!!!!!!!!!!

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:39 PM
In light of this incident McDonalds may have to issue its employees tasers with which to defend themselves.
I have been wanting a taser myself. Fuck a McDonald employee, they have fry grease.

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:43 PM
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

The double-standards at HA are at work... Not a double standard. The power of a transexual, in a transexual forum made by a transexual for men who ADMIRE transexuals. Not haters who come on here to talk shit and try and degrade us. We get enough of that in the real world, and then we have to come on here and go through it again??

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:45 PM
Ok, this is the last time I prove your dumb ass wrong. A group of transgendered women sued a department store(can't remember which one) in New York a couple of years ago. They won their lawsuit. Their claims were the same as what you speak of. Being slandered for who they are. I can't find the story, but I know someone here will. So again, you have no reason to retaliate like you do. You choose to act this way. I'm done with you're tired ragged excuse for a drag quenn entertainer escort.
Look bitch, I said in my case the manger never showed up. So NO you still did not prove ME wrong about MY situation. I act how I feel when I am the person being attacked for NO reason. You said you were done a few pages ago, yet you faggot ass keeps posting. So fag learn to spell at least before you try to read!. Bitch if you are done then you would shut the fuck up and mind your cum drinking trick ass business!!! :roll:
!Learn to spell? Do you remember SALVAGELY! :lol: :lol: You dumb illiterate faggot trick ass low class bitch. Why would the manager show up to deal with trash like yourself.lOW CLASS WOULD BE YOUR MOTHER BEACAUSE THAT CRACKED OUT BITCH GAVE BIRTH TO YOU.

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:50 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?
wow...
Yep you got it.
See this is a transexual forum.
I am a very active part of the transexual community, and unlike people like you and Crayons, who are assholes who talk shit about people you have never met, I have met Allanah many times and she has hired me to dance at several of her party's. So she knows more about me than you fags on here do, and its HER forum, she can do as she pleases!

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:52 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?
wow...
sure you may, now allow me:
how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?
shouldn't it work both ways?
Nope, thats life, deal with it fag!

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:54 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own!
shouldn't it work both ways?My thoughts exactly tubgirl. One of them eventually will get more than a ban. :twisted:[/quote]
Not in this lifetime. :peanutbutter

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 03:58 PM
Mimi, don't even bother explaining to him. Crayons is an asshole. If you and Vanessa got backed into a corner by the various assholes that come here, and you called some of them "fags", too bad for them. Not only are many of these guys assholes that get away with murder; many of them ARE closet fags. When that asshole "cockcraver" was saying that you deserved to get choked, hardly any of these "gentlemen" opened their mouthes to call him on it. You don't owe any explanations to "Tubgirl".
They talk so much shit hiding behind fake pics and not identifying who they really are. At least you and I and Mimi and Allanah are who we say we are. This is a transexual forum for transexuals and our admirers, it should be a safehaven of sorts, instead at times I find myself attacked more on here by guys who supposedly admire ts than I do in everyday life. Funny huh??

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 04:03 PM
CORRECTION !!!!!!
THE THREADS WERE MADE ABOUT SERIOUS TOPICS LIKE THE FIGHT ME AND BRENDA HAD AND HE HIGH JACKED THE TREAD SAYING ALL TYPES OF BULLSHIT .... I remember that.

So lets not pretend that Crayons hasn't stuck his bullshit two cents in and viciously insulted people. He HAS. If I am not mistaked, didn't Crayons insult me by posting a pic with a noose hanging from a tree and the HA moderators had the pic removed?

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 04:22 PM
CORRECTION !!!!!!
THE THREADS WERE MADE ABOUT SERIOUS TOPICS LIKE THE FIGHT ME AND BRENDA HAD AND HE HIGH JACKED THE TREAD SAYING ALL TYPES OF BULLSHIT .... I remember that.

So lets not pretend that Crayons hasn't stuck his bullshit two cents in and viciously insulted people. He HAS. If I am not mistaked, didn't Crayons insult me by posting a pic with a noose hanging from a tree and the HA moderators had the pic removed?

Negative, that was Kaiser2. The image was removed and he was sent packing. Had nothing to do with Crayons. Just making shure. My bad

Silcc69
11-30-2007, 04:55 PM
23 pages in 2 days.

Quinn
11-30-2007, 06:00 PM
ROTFLMAO.... I think we need to start handing out Speak & Spells to some of our members. This thread is at risk of becoming an ode to illiteracy.

http://www.retrogames.co.uk/stock/assets/images/HH_-_Speak___Spell.jpg

-Quinn

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 07:48 PM
They talk so much shit hiding behind fake pics and not identifying who they really are. At least you and I and Mimi and Allanah are who we say we are. This is a transexual forum for transexuals and our admirers, it should be a safehaven of sorts, instead at times I find myself attacked more on here by guys who supposedly admire ts than I do in everyday life. Funny huh??Exactly. If a guy comes here and wants to act like an ass towards the girls, why wouldn't he get told to fuck off?

I will say it again - transsexuals are some of the most courageous people you guys could have the privilege of meeting. We ARE special. Men hiding at home and jerking off to porn are a dime a dozen. Sorry that doesn't necessarily boost your ego, but we can't help that. And all we ask you for is some respect, and to act like adults. If you want a GG with low self esteem that will let you talk to them like idiots, unfortunately the world is loaded with them. Have fun. Thank you sister, my point exactly!

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 08:05 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?
wow...
sure you may, now allow me:
how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?
shouldn't it work both ways?
Nope, thats life, deal with it fag!

and here we go with the name calling... thank you for proving my point. :roll: :roll:

Chaotic
11-30-2007, 08:09 PM
Don't really know what's going on. Don't really care. :smh This pic is just too perfect for this thread title NOT to post:

:lol: :lol:

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 08:15 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?
wow...
sure you may, now allow me:
how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?
shouldn't it work both ways?
Nope, thats life, deal with it fag!

and here we go with the name calling... thank you for proving my point. :roll: :roll:TUBGIRL great name!!!! Are you a girl fat as a tub??? :twisted:

Quinn
11-30-2007, 08:16 PM
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/apith.gif

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 08:17 PM
Don't really know what's going on. Don't really care. :smh This pic is just too perfect for this thread title NOT to post:

:lol: :lol:
I LOVE THIS!!!!! YOU BRIGHTENED MY DAY!!!! GREAT PIC CHOICE!!!!!

Chaotic
11-30-2007, 08:21 PM
Don't really know what's going on. Don't really care. :smh This pic is just too perfect for this thread title NOT to post:

:lol: :lol:
I LOVE THIS!!!!! YOU BRIGHTENED MY DAY!!!! GREAT PIC CHOICE!!!!!

Thank you! It seemed appropriate. 8)

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 08:25 PM
i only attack when attacked. looks like you'd like to join the party. trust me; i can take care of you 3 either 1 at a time or all at once. just tell me when to start: or have you already gone crying to the moderators?

Night Rider said something similar to this not that long ago. Honestly, what is this shit about? If you act like an ass, and someone calls you on it, you'll throw a cyber tantrum?

I told you to keep my name out of your ugly fucking mouth. I don't want to be even in your thoughts, so fuck off and get a face job...

slut.

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

The double-standards at HA are at work... Not a double standard. The power of a transexual, in a transexual forum made by a transexual for men who ADMIRE transexuals. Not haters who come on here to talk shit and try and degrade us. We get enough of that in the real world, and then we have to come on here and go through it again??

Double Standard

You tgirls get away with a lot worse, just because you've a set of tits. Fuck that, I'll treat you how you deserve to be treated and that's the same as everyone else...

If you insult crayons then deal with the consequences..

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 08:35 PM
They talk so much shit hiding behind fake pics and not identifying who they really are. At least you and I and Mimi and Allanah are who we say we are. This is a transexual forum for transexuals and our admirers, it should be a safehaven of sorts, instead at times I find myself attacked more on here by guys who supposedly admire ts than I do in everyday life. Funny huh??Exactly. If a guy comes here and wants to act like an ass towards the girls, why wouldn't he get told to fuck off?

I will say it again - transsexuals are some of the most courageous people you guys could have the privilege of meeting. We ARE special. Men hiding at home and jerking off to porn are a dime a dozen. Sorry that doesn't necessarily boost your ego, but we can't help that. And all we ask you for is some respect, and to act like adults. If you want a GG with low self esteem that will let you talk to them like idiots, unfortunately the world is loaded with them. Have fun.

You've lost the plot my dear!! How far up your own arse can a 'person' be. You personally are LOWER than most here, but tgirls in general are just normal people. One min you say you want to be treated equal then the next you're high and mighty. Wise the fuck up you dirty piece of shit. Some of us only come here for the fun and other topic other than pics. If I want to perve over porn, I'll go to a fucking porn site (definitely not yours)

tubgirl
11-30-2007, 09:08 PM
I AM a moderator here- have been for years.
I don't have to cry sweetie- you are working your own self to a ban so I will let you self destruct on your own.
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.
so, wait... go back and read crayons' posts and then go back and read, say, vanessa's posts. and crayons is the one working on a ban?
wow...
sure you may, now allow me:
how is that any different than vanessa (or yourself) telling people you hope they die from aids? or how about the posts that have every other word as fag or gay or cock sucker?
shouldn't it work both ways?
Nope, thats life, deal with it fag!

and here we go with the name calling... thank you for proving my point. :roll: :roll:TUBGIRL great name!!!! Are you a girl fat as a tub??? :twisted:

wow, so i have to explain it to you, also. i posted the reason earlier in this thread, go find it...

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 09:14 PM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"

We're just a bunch of "fags" that live for transexual women...

They can insult us as much as they want because they're "unique beings"

[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]

AllanahStarrNYC
11-30-2007, 09:16 PM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"

We're just a bunch of "fags" that live for transexual women...

They can insult us as much as they want because they're "unique beings"

[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]

Hey you used to be kind of nice and sent me a a nice pm once.

What happened?

Night Rider
11-30-2007, 09:20 PM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"

We're just a bunch of "fags" that live for transexual women...

They can insult us as much as they want because they're "unique beings"

[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]

Hey you used to be kind of nice and sent me a a nice pm once.

What happened?

I still like you Allanah, I was talking mainly about Nicole Dupree..

Sure I wished you luck yesterday in that other thread..

TsVanessa69
11-30-2007, 11:58 PM
Not a double standard. The power of a transexual, in a transexual forum made by a transexual for men who ADMIRE transexuals. Not haters who come on here to talk shit and try and degrade us. We get enough of that in the real world, and then we have to come on here and go through it again??
Double Standard
You tgirls get away with a lot worse, just because you've a set of tits. Fuck that, I'll treat you how you deserve to be treated and that's the same as everyone else...
If you insult crayons then deal with the consequences..
Fuck you and Crayons, you both are faggot ass fools. There I said it, now what!!!

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 12:01 AM
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

The double-standards at HA are at work... Not a double standard. The power of a transexual, in a transexual forum made by a transexual for men who ADMIRE transexuals. Not haters who come on here to talk shit and try and degrade us. We get enough of that in the real world, and then we have to come on here and go through it again??

Double Standard

You tgirls get away with a lot worse, just because you've a set of tits. Fuck that, I'll treat you how you deserve to be treated and that's the same as everyone else...

If you insult crayons then deal with the consequences..
Fuck you and Crayons, you both are faggot ass fools. There I said it, now what!!!

That's your opinion and you've yet again proved yourself to be a hypocrite....run along bitch before this gets ugly

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 12:02 AM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"
[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]
Hey you used to be kind of nice and sent me a a nice pm once.
What happened?
Girl he used to be nice to me too. Men, who understands them? And they say we are mentally unstable, LOL

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 12:04 AM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"

We're just a bunch of "fags" that live for transexual women...

They can insult us as much as they want because they're "unique beings"

[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]

Hey you used to be kind of nice and sent me a a nice pm once.

What happened?
Girl he used to be nice to me too. Men, who understands them? And they say we are mentally unstable, LOL

I stand by my NICE GUY image :lol:

I'll not lose sleep over some derranged bitch thinking otherwise..

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 12:09 AM
The double-standards at HA are at work...
Double Standard

Fuck you and Crayons, you both are faggot ass fools. There I said it, now what!!!
That's your opinion and you've yet again proved yourself to be a hypocrite....run along bitch before this gets ugly You are right, it is my opinion.
You can't run me off anywhere bitch, I pay my bills, and we already agreed many threads ago I'm ugly. I can deal with that, so now what 2 faced faggot? I go and cum as I please and you cannot do shit about it. You are so 2 faced, first you kiss ass then you talk shit. You are worse than a transexual. You are a pussy ass faceless bitch talking shit on the internet. I bet if you met Nicole in person, you would drop to your knees, suck her off and let her cum in your mouth. :jerkoff

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 12:14 AM
You are right, it is my opinion.
You can't run me off anywhere bitch, I pay my bills, and we already agreed many threads ago I'm ugly. I can deal with that, so now what 2 faced faggot? I go and cum as I please and you cannot do shit about it. You are so 2 faced, first you kiss ass then you talk shit. You are worse than a transexual. You are a pussy ass faceless bitch talking shit on the internet.

Yeah and your opinions are so valued around here :lol:

You're the 2faced one and we've acknowledged that on the 100page "salvage" thread. If you're still holding a grudge for that then you're more messed up than I thought. Maybe you need to learn a few more words insead of coming here because "pussy ass faceless bitch talking shit on the internet" is past boring now. I can throw 5 or 6 curse words into a sentence but it doesn't make it any more intimidating :lol:

Asshole.

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 12:18 AM
You are right, it is my opinion.
You can't run me off anywhere bitch, I pay my bills, and we already agreed many threads ago I'm ugly. I can deal with that, so now what 2 faced faggot? I go and cum as I please and you cannot do shit about it. You are so 2 faced, first you kiss ass then you talk shit. You are worse than a transexual. You are a pussy ass faceless bitch talking shit on the internet.

Yeah and your opinions are so valued around here :lol:

You're the 2faced one and we've acknowledged that on the 100page "salvage" thread. If you're still holding a grudge for that then you're more messed up than I thought. Maybe you need to learn a few more words insead of coming here because "pussy ass faceless bitch talking shit on the internet" is past boring now. I can throw 5 or 6 curse words into a sentence but it doesn't make it any more intimidating :lol:

Asshole." Frankly my dear, I don't give a daymn!"
"Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!"
And after you sucked Nicole off and she came in your mouth, you would bend over and beg Crayons to fuck you in the ass with his 3 inch cheesy dick and cum in your ass. :moon

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 12:25 AM
Frankly my dear, I don't give a daymn!
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!
And after you sucked Nicole off and she came in your mouth, you would bend over and beg Crayons to fuck you in the ass with his 3 inch cheesy dick and cum in your ass. :moon

Exactly the classless and irrelevant answer I'd expect from a scumbag like you..

You're resorting to pathetic levels now in your posts. All jokes aside you're ugly inside and out, so let's not get into another cyber-row over the same repetative shit.

You and Nicole are in competition to see you is the most vile of HA, apart from yous two, I've no problems with anyone else here...

Stay out of my business you cheap whore

tubgirl
12-01-2007, 12:42 AM
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!


internet threats are so cool :roll: :roll:

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 12:51 AM
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!


internet threats are so cool :roll: :roll:
DUHH, :roll: Its a quote from Joan Crawford, didn't you see the movie Mommie Dearest :roll:

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 12:54 AM
Frankly my dear, I don't give a daymn!
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!
And after you sucked Nicole off and she came in your mouth, you would bend over and beg Crayons to fuck you in the ass with his 3 inch cheesy dick and cum in your ass. :moon

Exactly the classless and irrelevant answer I'd expect from a scumbag like you..

You're resorting to pathetic levels now in your posts. All jokes aside you're ugly inside and out, so let's not get into another cyber-row over the same repetative shit.

You and Nicole are in competition to see you is the most vile of HA, apart from yous two, I've no problems with anyone else here...

Stay out of my business you cheap whore I am in your business pathetic drug addicted faggot. Now thank Crayons for cumming in your ass and kiss him Goodbye.

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 01:00 AM
Frankly my dear, I don't give a daymn!
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!
And after you sucked Nicole off and she came in your mouth, you would bend over and beg Crayons to fuck you in the ass with his 3 inch cheesy dick and cum in your ass. :moon

Exactly the classless and irrelevant answer I'd expect from a scumbag like you..

You're resorting to pathetic levels now in your posts. All jokes aside you're ugly inside and out, so let's not get into another cyber-row over the same repetative shit.

You and Nicole are in competition to see you is the most vile of HA, apart from yous two, I've no problems with anyone else here...

Stay out of my business you cheap whore I am in your business pathetic drug addicted faggot. Now thank Crayons for cumming in your ass and kiss him Goodbye.

Who said I was addicted?....there are a lot of drug users on this forum.

I know you want me to be your business but I don't associate with dirty sluts like you. Let's not forget that you're the one with a cock...crayons has yet to be proven guilty. So until then, fuck off and take your dramas elsewhere..

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 01:03 AM
Frankly my dear, I don't give a daymn!
Don't fuck with me fella, this is not my first time in the rodeo!!!!!
And after you sucked Nicole off and she came in your mouth, you would bend over and beg Crayons to fuck you in the ass with his 3 inch cheesy dick and cum in your ass. :moon

Exactly the classless and irrelevant answer I'd expect from a scumbag like you..

You're resorting to pathetic levels now in your posts. All jokes aside you're ugly inside and out, so let's not get into another cyber-row over the same repetative shit.

You and Nicole are in competition to see you is the most vile of HA, apart from yous two, I've no problems with anyone else here...

Stay out of my business you cheap whore I am in your business pathetic drug addicted faggot. Now thank Crayons for cumming in your ass and kiss him Goodbye.

Who said I was addicted?....there are a lot of drug users on this forum.

I know you want me to be your business but I don't associate with dirty sluts like you. Let's not forget that you're the one with a cock...crayons has yet to be proven guilty. So until then, fuck off and take your dramas elsewhere.. Duhh this is a transexual forum. Everybody on here has a cock. Even Crayons. He's a fat guy from Maine, don't you follow shit, he was exposed a few threads ago. Now I'm waiting for my friend to come upgrade my laptop, so for the moment you are my entertainment clown! And you already admitted to drug use, I saw the PM's. An addict never admits he's an addict. Just your behavior proves my point.

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 01:06 AM
Duhh this is a transexual forum. Everybody on here has a cock. Even Crayons. He's a fat guy from Maine, don't you follow shit, he was exposed a few threads ago. Now I'm waiting for my friend to come upgrade my laptop, so for the moment you are my entertainment clown!

wrong again peggygee doesn't have a cock, for one..

If you want entertainment just sit on front of a mirror...I'm in no mood to bitch back and forth with you because you're like a broken record..

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 01:59 AM
I'm still undecided...

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:14 AM
This post proves my point. Here is some faceless queer telling me he's off limits for me to discuss. He "told me"... :roll: What a homo. He's barking orders and meaningless insults at me through his keyboard. How brave.

He is the typical loser that I'm talking about; someone who has absolutely nothing to contribute here but constantly runs off at the mouth.




I told you to keep my name out of your ugly fucking mouth. I don't want to be even in your thoughts, so fuck off and get a face job...

slut.

Why must we babysit these latent homosexuals? Is it our fault they can't get laid and have no friends?

:sleep Do as I say bitch....keep out of my business

I've nothing to contribute?

Here's a pic for HA to savour...

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:17 AM
But let's not forget we should be "priviledged to share the same forum with tgirls"

We're just a bunch of "fags" that live for transexual women...

They can insult us as much as they want because they're "unique beings"

[I'm not surprised to see the tgirls that aren't trash, haven't defended those statements, what does that tell you?]

Hey you used to be kind of nice and sent me a a nice pm once.

What happened?He tried his nice guy routine with me in a PM too. But when I suggested that he stop making an ass of himself here, he became a rabid dog.

You're full of shit...you PMd me when we were having our argument and said "Night Rider you're a nice guy and all but let's stop the arguing" We've discussed this on the "salvage" thread, so don't lie you tramp

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 02:25 AM
Duhh this is a transexual forum. Everybody on here has a cock. Even Crayons. He's a fat guy from Maine, don't you follow shit, he was exposed a few threads ago. Now I'm waiting for my friend to come upgrade my laptop, so for the moment you are my entertainment clown!

wrong again peggygee doesn't have a cock, for one..

If you want entertainment just sit on front of a mirror...I'm in no mood to bitch back and forth with you because you're like a broken record..
Peggy is post op. So at one point she did. No offense to peggy. Just pre-op or post op, we are transexuals/

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:26 AM
Duhh this is a transexual forum. Everybody on here has a cock. Even Crayons. He's a fat guy from Maine, don't you follow shit, he was exposed a few threads ago. Now I'm waiting for my friend to come upgrade my laptop, so for the moment you are my entertainment clown!

wrong again peggygee doesn't have a cock, for one..

If you want entertainment just sit on front of a mirror...I'm in no mood to bitch back and forth with you because you're like a broken record..
Peggy is post op. So at one point she did. No offense to peggy. Just pre-op or post op, we are transexuals/

What's that got to do with anything...you said everyone has a cock here

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:41 AM
You're full of shit...you PMd me when we were having our argument and said "Night Rider you're a nice guy and all but let's stop the arguing" We've discussed this on the "salvage" thread, so don't lie you trampI guess his memory is fried from the coke. He Pmed me with this gay ultimatum that basically said he would leave me alone if I left him alone. :roll: How fab.

I told him that he might be an ok guy, but he was making a huge fool out of himself. But he made an even bigger fool of himself shortly there after anyway.

Well he gets no pity from me. He has no social skills, he has nothing interesting to talk about, and he's a troll. He should be flushed down HA's cyber-toilet asap.

But I won't go back and forth with a mental patient. So lets just see what Mr Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs says now, as he makes a predictable attempt to get the last word in... when I'm not even speaking directly to him. :roll:

(Drum roll, please... )

So you're quoting me and talking about me, but not to me...COO COO

No No bitch, you PMd me first and I told you to fuck off. If I had been an ass kiss, you would have posted the PM and exposed me. You're ugly and you're a liar....good combination (it's just as well you can't have kids)


:lol:

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:47 AM
Anyway, I say ban "Night Rider" and ban "Crayons". They're both assholes who have nothing to contribute here other than shit talk.

BAN me...I don't give a fuck

You're a 2faced, hypocritical whore

..don't make me use examples

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 02:50 AM
Again, he threatens people with nonsense. :roll:

stfu slut

..you're confrontational when it suits you (the worst kind - sly and 2faced)

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 03:26 AM
I know you want me to be your business but I don't associate with dirty sluts like you. Let's not forget that you're the one with a cock...What does this asshole mean by saying this?! That all pre-ops are "dirty sluts"?!?

This is why I say, he does not belong here.

You're pathetic...You left out the part were I was refering to crayons. You have stooped to an all time low.

If I didn't respect pre-ops, why the fuck would I be here, you ugly slut..

Your an absolute disgusting excuse for a human being, never mind woman

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 03:29 AM
I know you want me to be your business but I don't associate with dirty sluts like you. Let's not forget that you're the one with a cock...What does this asshole mean by saying this?! That all pre-ops are "dirty sluts"?!?

This is why I say, he does not belong here.

You're pathetic...You left out the part were I was refering to crayons. You have stooped to an all time low.

If I didn't respect pre-ops, why the fuck would I be here, you ugly slut..

Your an absolute disgusting excuse for a human being, never mind woman Umm for the moment you are old news again!!!!
Mimi just started a new thread, so we are done here looser! The new thread is a bit more fun. Nude pics and a stange thing about Black T Girls only paying $50 for shoots.

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 03:34 AM
Umm for the moment you are old news again!!!!
Mimi just started a new thread, so we are done here looser! The new thread is a bit more fun. Nude pics and a stange thing about Black T Girls only paying $50 for shoots.

...so it's ok now to disrespect the tgirl members here

...hmmmm do I smell double-standards
:screwy

come back here when you've something worth listening to, to say

TsVanessa69
12-01-2007, 03:38 AM
Umm for the moment you are old news again!!!!
Mimi just started a new thread, so we are done here looser! The new thread is a bit more fun. Nude pics and a stange thing about Black T Girls only paying $50 for shoots.

...so it's ok now to disrespect the tgirl members here

...hmmmm do I smell double-standards
:screwy

come back here when you've something worth listening to, to say
I actually don't thik it was disrespect. However I did not make the post.

mbf
12-01-2007, 03:40 AM
What shocks me is the amount of bile that gets thrown back and forth during some of these, mostly stupid, flame wars. People wishing death on others, insulting peoples families. If HA got a penny everytime someone (man or gg) used the word "fag" it could open up headquaters on 5th avenue in NYC and hire a staff of 100.

Does the llack of civility in HA reflect the lack of civility in our society?.........


must be the Genius Loci

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 03:41 AM
Who said I was addicted?....there are a lot of drug users on this forum.
:lol:

there's a thread on it

the funny thing is, you've got the brain of someone that's smoked crack like there's no tomorrow

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 03:45 AM
Ahhh, hints of violence from the nimrod. ;)

was that even worth typing?

fuck off and take a bath, I can smell you from here

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 04:00 AM
Ahhh, hints of violence from the nimrod. ;)

was that even worth typing?

fuck off and take a bath, I can smell you from hereWow. He really knows how to tell someone off. Ouch. :lol:

Do these types of insults hurt peoples' feelings in Ireland? Because this sounds like it came from the mind of a third grader. 8)

10 mins in 'hidden mode' and you come up with that :lol:

It wasn't supposed to make you cry, just piss you off (which worked because you were fighting your mind for something to say for over 10mins)

But I suppose it's just a coincidence that you go to 'hidden mode' during arguments lololol

Stupid bitch.

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 04:08 AM
Ahhh, hints of violence from the nimrod. ;)

was that even worth typing?

fuck off and take a bath, I can smell you from hereWow. He really knows how to tell someone off. Ouch. :lol:

Do these types of insults hurt peoples' feelings in Ireland? Because this sounds like it came from the mind of a third grader. 8)

10 mins in 'hidden mode' and you come up with that :lol:

It wasn't supposed to make you cry, just piss you off (which worked because you were fighting your mind for something to say for over 10mins)

But I suppose it's just a coincidence that you go to 'hidden mode' during arguments lololol

Stupid bitch.lol His cocaine anxiety turns to paranoia. He's looking at his watch. But the big shocker for him is that I actually LEAVE the forum for minutes at a time. It's called "having a life". 8)

No, because I caught you out doing that before, in a PM (and the evidence is in the salvage thread) makes me laugh!!

It's funny how you leave the forum in heated discussions :lol: What were you doing, having a shave? Watch you don't cut that beautiful face.

gunn
12-01-2007, 04:35 AM
i wonder if this trend will beat vanessa's.you know when mimi gat her ass beat.

echimandu
12-01-2007, 04:39 AM
They talk so much shit hiding behind fake pics and not identifying who they really are. At least you and I and Mimi and Allanah are who we say we are. This is a transexual forum for transexuals and our admirers, it should be a safehaven of sorts, instead at times I find myself attacked more on here by guys who supposedly admire ts than I do in everyday life. Funny huh??Exactly. If a guy comes here and wants to act like an ass towards the girls, why wouldn't he get told to fuck off?

I will say it again - transsexuals are some of the most courageous people you guys could have the privilege of meeting. We ARE special. Men hiding at home and jerking off to porn are a dime a dozen. Sorry that doesn't necessarily boost your ego, but we can't help that. And all we ask you for is some respect, and to act like adults. If you want a GG with low self esteem that will let you talk to them like idiots, unfortunately the world is loaded with them. Have fun.You get what you put out. Universal law. No different online. Some girls here are more of an ass than some of the guys. I haven't seen one guy wish aids on someone. But a jackass illiterate tranny did. Justify that.

Night Rider
12-01-2007, 04:46 AM
You get what you put out. Universal law. No different online.

Exactly. Some of you bitches were crying for crayons to get banned, just because you can't deal with her owning you.....it's obvious.

echimandu
12-01-2007, 04:47 AM
Like I said- keep working your way to a ban. You are doing a great job at it.

The double-standards at HA are at work... Not a double standard. The power of a transexual, in a transexual forum made by a transexual for men who ADMIRE transexuals. Not haters who come on here to talk shit and try and degrade us. We get enough of that in the real world, and then we have to come on here and go through it again??

Double Standard

You tgirls get away with a lot worse, just because you've a set of tits. Fuck that, I'll treat you how you deserve to be treated and that's the same as everyone else...
If you insult crayons then deal with the consequences..FUCKING CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

El Nino
12-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503

TheOne1
12-01-2007, 08:28 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg

lust4ts
12-01-2007, 08:32 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg

:shock:

She needs to hit McDonald's hard, I can't believe the fashion industry actually employ girls that anorexic!

thx1138
12-01-2007, 12:01 PM
Does this have to do with madcow disease?

mimiplastique
12-01-2007, 12:25 PM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg

THAT BITCH IS OVA !!!! BEAUTIFUL LOVELY BODY
I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE SOMEWHERE NEAR (NOT THAT) THAT SKINNY

El Nino
12-02-2007, 02:30 AM
Thats living on the edge of death. It is inherently unnattractive, I mean, would you trust that woman to bear your child? LOLZ

Night Rider
12-02-2007, 02:33 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg

THAT BITCH IS OVA !!!! BEAUTIFUL LOVELY BODY
I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE SOMEWHERE NEAR (NOT THAT) THAT SKINNY

:what :smh anywhere near that skinny is wrong....curves are the way forward!

chefmike
12-02-2007, 02:35 AM
the 2nd time I'm heard of a tranny getting hot grease thrown at them

priceless

I just hope that it was 0 trans fat...

chefmike
12-02-2007, 02:40 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg

THAT BITCH IS OVA !!!! BEAUTIFUL LOVELY BODY
I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE SOMEWHERE NEAR (NOT THAT) THAT SKINNY

:what :smh anywhere near that skinny is wrong....curves are the way forward!

That freak looks like a concentration camp survivor...

Night Rider
12-02-2007, 02:46 AM
That freak looks like a concentration camp survivor...

she looks lost....maybe she's looking for her family

El Nino
12-02-2007, 05:14 AM
How does her body maintain itself? She must be gravely malnourished an feel terrible because of it. What does her diet consist of... multivitamins?

Legend
12-02-2007, 05:32 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg


She is kinda hot,besides if you are taking her out you know she isn't gonna eat much.

mimiplastique
12-02-2007, 10:54 AM
Don't eat at McDonald's
http://infowarsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3503


don't eat...

http://www.heykool-aid.com/anorexic2pl.jpg


She is kinda hot,besides if you are taking her out you know she isn't gonna eat much.
SHE WILL NEVER COMPARE TO HONTAS FARMER .... BTW MY NAME IS KYLIE !!!!!

TJ347
12-02-2007, 11:01 AM
SHE WILL NEVER COMPARE TO HONTAS FARMER ....

Do you really think there's anyone who gives a damn about your drama with Brenda and Vanessa? Please, leave that nonsense in one of the threads you three created to deal with your interpersonal issues and don't ruin threads unrelated to that foolishness with further comments about your former friends. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

mimiplastique
12-02-2007, 11:34 AM
SHE WILL NEVER COMPARE TO HONTAS FARMER ....

Do you really think there's anyone who gives a damn about your drama with Brenda and Vanessa? Please, leave that nonsense in one of the threads you three created to deal with your interpersonal issues and don't ruin threads unrelated to that foolishness with further comments about your former friends. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd appreciate it.

Thank you.
YOUR PART IS SILENT LITTLE TOAD,

TJ347
12-02-2007, 12:18 PM
YOUR PART IS SILENT LITTLE TOAD,

Whatever the fuck that means... Further, while you may end a sentence with a period, exclamation point, or even a question mark, you never end it with a comma.

And so continues the insanity (and inanity) that is Mimi Plastique, not that anyone other than the cockhounds has any real interest at this point. I'd ask why, if you make as much money as you claim, you're living in an apartment with a roommate (and it ain't a "deluxe apartment in the sky" either, I'm sure), but I really don't care enough to do that. You're a fraud in more ways than one, and it's painfully evident to anyone who's read your posts these last few weeks, which is 'nuff said about you and yours. Carry on...

peggygee
12-03-2007, 02:07 AM
I'm too old and too cute, to be getting into physical altercations over words.

I'm too old to be catching cases, even if I will end up in a womens prison,
jail is jail.

On the cute tip, I've spent too much time and money, endured too much
pain in various cosmetc prcedures to risk harm to my body or potentially
my life.

The McDonald's scenario sounds like two wrongs not making a right.

I have no doubt that the restaurant staff uttered something to which these
transgendered women took offense, and they then responded.

For me, it would take someone physically harming or the certainty of harm
to myself, a family member or loved one, and then I would react
accordingly and appropriately.

Other than that the ignorant words of a stranger reflect upon that person,
not me.

Tomfurbs
12-03-2007, 02:10 AM
I'm too old and too cute, to be getting into physical altercations over words.

I'm too old to be catching cases, even if I will end up in a womens prison,
jail is jail.

On the cute tip, I've spent too much time and money, endured too much
pain in various cosmetc prcedures to risk harm to my body or potentially
my life.

The McDonald's scenario sounds like two wrongs not making a right.

I have no doubt that the restaurant staff uttered something to which these
transgendeed women took offense, and they then responded

For me, it would take someone physically harming or the certainty of harm
to myself, a family member or loved one, and then I would react
accordingly and appropriately.

Other than that the ignorant words of a stranger reflect upon that person,
not me.


Finally, the big guns have spoken.

Let's lay this thread to rest.