The 'T' Trailer is online for all to watch!

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Just caught it!

Amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!


www.beingT.com

[Riddler]

looks excellent

[wombat33]

Just caught it!

Amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!


www.beingT.com


Indeed it is. Great little documentary/eye opener.


Well made

[andyuk]

wow
it looks like you have caught every emotion on that,
looks like the girls have been very honest too.
its long overdue that a program like this was made.
i just hope we get to see it in England,:)

[hondarobot]

Awesome. Get that project finished. That was very good.

[2754tim]

Well Done,I'm Gonna Have To See It.Looks Great

[Dina Delicious]

love it

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Sell it to the judges!

[whatsupwithat]

thanks, everyone! :)

kinda embarrassed right now because the video that's up there is really low res and doesn't do the project or the people involved justice.

we are replacing it in the morning with a better quality vid...our web guy went to bed. :)

[Luna555]

WOW SO POWERFUL! Love you Eric!!!

[LBCDO]

Oh my god, another person who will fucking go over each fucking detail and find a reason to talk some shit and fuck up the whole thread... Buy the movie and find out

It looks good. Id pre-order a copy

[Perverted Monk]

Definitely have to check that one out

[yodajazz]

Great job. Looks like you are including the full spectrum of the life. I wish you the best. I do feel there may be some resistance from the part of our community which downplays sex. It's also an issue that many people from the greater community can't seem to get past, especially so called religious people.

I can't wait to see the whole thing. I'm sure you'll let us know about it's distribution. Blessings!

[JerseyBoy1]

The Preview looks really good. Where will this be played? Eric I give you kudos for something I wish I had done. You should be proud.

[Coroner]

E! Where are the special effects? I wanna see some cars flying and stuff like in X-Men and Spiderman.

:lol:

[whatsupwithat]

Luna...I love you!!

LBCDO, thank you very much!

perverted monk, we hope you will.

braveman, it's a 10-part documentary series. it will be on one of a few networks. we are in discussions now.

yodajazz, thank you! i hear you, but we are getting a positive reaction from that population. actually, from everyone. we knew we had something different, but we had no idea of the reaction we could get. it's amazing how beautiful and supportive everyone has been.

coroner...cgi, baby!

i just want to say that all of you, in one way or another, are a part of this series. and i totally mean that. definitely not just words. myself and my partners are doing this for everyone in the community. everyone. and we welcome the involvement of each and everyone of you. it's a huge undertaking and we feel blessed in many ways. thank you!! :)

[whatsupwithat]

btw, if anyone has any technical issues can you pm me with the details? a few people have contacted me and seem to be having difficulties.

love you all!! :)

[Coroner]

I´m proud of you because you really care, E. This is awesome and I wish I could come to the premiere. My X-Men-Spiderman post can be translated this way: don´t go to Hollywood, bro! Make your stuff!

Btw, what means cgi? :)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Great job. Looks like you are including the full spectrum of the life. I wish you the best. I do feel there may be some resistance from the part of our community which downplays sex. It's also an issue that many people from the greater community can't seem to get past, especially so called religious people.

I can't wait to see the whole thing. I'm sure you'll let us know about it's distribution. Blessings!

Well to those who would say that- there are several girls in this project who are not in the sex industry.

They picked a pretty diverse group of girls to be a part of this- all with unique stories and situations.

[whatsupwithat]

Great job. Looks like you are including the full spectrum of the life. I wish you the best. I do feel there may be some resistance from the part of our community which downplays sex. It's also an issue that many people from the greater community can't seem to get past, especially so called religious people.

I can't wait to see the whole thing. I'm sure you'll let us know about it's distribution. Blessings!

Well to those who would say that- there are several girls in this project who are not in the sex industry.

They picked a pretty diverse group of girls to be a part of this- all with unique stories and situations.

this is true! :)

[whatsupwithat]

for some reason, the video and sound are skipping all over the place in my browser. if anyone else has any difficulties, please let me know by pm. thank you! :)

addendum: being fixed now.

[TsJennifer]

Hey Eric-

I had a blast and your project is amazing. Thank you for having me! I am very proud of you!

Jennifer Paris

[NYTSJulie]

I cant wait to see the whole thing.

[muhmuh]

btw, if anyone has any technical issues can you pm me with the details? a few people have contacted me and seem to be having difficulties.

only problem i had was that none of the video controls worked (no pausing no jumping no nothing)

to the video itself:
its so... american :D
looking forward to watching the whole thing

[whatsupwithat]

Hey Eric-

I had a blast and your project is amazing. Thank you for having me! I am very proud of you!

Jennifer Paris

jennifer!! look at that pic! three beautiful people and me! it's like...how the hell did that dude on the left get in that picture?

thank you so much for coming and showing your support and love. it meant so much to all of us. and a real lot to me. :)

[whatsupwithat]

I cant wait to see the whole thing.

can't wait to show you, julie. thank you! how are you, btw? :)

[whatsupwithat]

btw, if anyone has any technical issues can you pm me with the details? a few people have contacted me and seem to be having difficulties.

only problem i had was that none of the video controls worked (no pausing no jumping no nothing)

to the video itself:
its so... american :D
looking forward to watching the whole thing

none of the controls worked? hmmm...ok. thank you!

and what does "american" mean? :)

[peggygee]

I was very impressed by the trailer, it looks as if this documentary will
touch on issues that have been overlooked by many other
documentaries.

In terms of marketing it, I think HBO or IFC could give it the exposure
that it deserves, though they might try to downsize it for mass
consumption.

I lalso feel that it will do well on the Indy - Art House circuit, and feel that
it is the Paris Is Burning for the new millenium.

Kudos, and congrats to all involved.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/smiley_handsclap1.gif

[whatsupwithat]

I was very impressed by the trailer, it looks as if this documentary will
touch on issues that have been overlooked by many other
documentaries.

In terms of marketing it, I think HBO or IFC could give it the exposure
that it deserves, though they might try to downsize it for mass
consumption.

I lalso feel that it will do well on the Indy - Art House circuit, and feel that
it is the Paris Is Burning for the new millenium.

Kudos, and congrats to all involved.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/smiley_handsclap1.gif

peggy, you have no idea how much that means to me and to us. truly. i so respect you and it means the world to know you see what we are trying to do.

it will actually be a 10-part series and each part will focus on one of the girls...exploring her life and the day-to-day issues and struggles she faces and overcomes. there will be sdaness, but a whole lot of joy, as well. :)

[dan_drade]

Wow, that looks like a great documentary. When and where can I get it? I would love to buy it or rent it and watch it with my GF. I'm sure she will be pissed that I got it for us to watch because she has probably been through all that stuff. But I am still very curious to see it and I know she will give in and watch it with me.

[peggygee]

peggy, you have no idea how much that means to me and to us. truly. i so respect you and it means the world to know you see what we are trying to do.

it will actually be a 10-part series and each part will focus on one of the girls...exploring her life and the day-to-day issues and struggles she faces and overcomes. there will be sdaness, but a whole lot of joy, as well. :)

Thank you Eric, you have my admiration and my best wishes as well. :wink:

:idea: By the by, an after-thoght was that you might be able to market the
video to colleges for use in their undergrad / graduate Psych programs,
or even to industry as part of their sensitivity trainings.

[gonzobear]

The party for the opening night trailer was packed. Luck Chang's was full to standing room only, and even standing room was hard to find!!
Drinks were served and The food was tasty.
Then came the show! Allanah Starr and Dina Delicious gave a stand up show that put the audence in stiches. then came the trailer.
It was powerful, and amizing. I can't wait to see this ground breaking attempt to get into the heart and soul of these special women

here are a few pics from that opening night!

[gonzobear]

more

[Tarissa]

Great trailer...I hope the full documentary opends eyes and minds.

[gonzobear]

more

[whatsupwithat]

thank you, gonzobear! we were happy you could come. :)

[hwbs]

i see many friends in the pics..too bad i had to work...maybe we can have viewings after it goes on air at the parties..like they did with the sopranos when it was on ..good job E Allanah and Dina.....cant wait to see it..

[whatsupwithat]

peggy, you have no idea how much that means to me and to us. truly. i so respect you and it means the world to know you see what we are trying to do.

it will actually be a 10-part series and each part will focus on one of the girls...exploring her life and the day-to-day issues and struggles she faces and overcomes. there will be sdaness, but a whole lot of joy, as well. :)

Thank you Eric, you have my admiration and my best wishes as well. :wink:

:idea: By the by, an after-thoght was that you might be able to market the
video to colleges for use in their undergrad / graduate Psych programs,
or even to industry as part of their sensitivity trainings.

interesting. that's a great idea. i think, down the line, we might just do that. :)

[muhmuh]

none of the controls worked? hmmm...ok. thank you!

hm works fine on opera and ie doesnt work at all on ff for some reason (dont ask about safari that one is about as broken as it gets on my machine)


and what does "american" mean? :)

you know... cuts fast enough to keep even the worst cases of add entertained a few bits of extreme emotion packed into the first few seconds filmed in a in your face fashion and a bit of blood and swearing dropped in for good measure... the usual

[whatsupwithat]

none of the controls worked? hmmm...ok. thank you!

hm works fine on opera and ie doesnt work at all on ff for some reason (dont ask about safari that one is about as broken as it gets on my machine)


and what does "american" mean? :)

you know... cuts fast enough to keep even the worst cases of add entertained a few bits of extreme emotion packed into the first few seconds filmed in a in your face fashion and a bit of blood and swearing dropped in for good measure... the usual

hahaha! it's a trailer, bro'. we had to get everything in. and there was a lot. :)

but thank you. i'll take that as a compliment.

[whatsupwithat]

Great trailer...I hope the full documentary opends eyes and minds.

tarissa, thank you so much. we hope so to. :)

[GIA LOVES RON]

I almost cried looking at that trailer. It really represented a lot of the tgirls in this world. Very accurate. All the girls looked so beautiful and powerful in their own way.That was a very good trailer!

[whatsupwithat]

I almost cried looking at that trailer. It really represented a lot of the tgirls in this world. Very accurate. All the girls looked so beautiful and powerful in their own way.That was a very good trailer!

gia, you almost made me cry with that. it means so much to us to see the reaction we're getting from people of all walks of life, but especially from the t community. thank you! thank you so much! :)

[Bigguy]

This looks like it's going to be a good documentary. I watched the trailer several times because there so much packed in there and I notice more and more each time. Lots of familiar faces.
I hope it gets picked up by HBO or another network that wouldn't have it censored. You did a great job on this. :claps

[PatrickFromNYC]

Great Trailer "whatsupwithat" !! Has you entered the documentry into any film festivals?

[tsadmirerinnj]

how do we see the whole show?trailer is great

[GIA LOVES RON]

I almost cried looking at that trailer. It really represented a lot of the tgirls in this world. Very accurate. All the girls looked so beautiful and powerful in their own way.That was a very good trailer!

gia, you almost made me cry with that. it means so much to us to see the reaction we're getting from people of all walks of life, but especially from the t community. thank you! thank you so much! :)

Your welcome whatsupwithat! Are you gonna show the documentary on HBo or where are you planning to show it? I want to watch it. It's gonna make a good impact on transsexual lives and people will be more enlightened about this hard but beautiful life. Thanks again! You guys did a very good job! :D

[whatsupwithat]

Just caught it!

Amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!


www.beingT.com

you are amaziiiiiiiiiing, allanah! :)


and, Dina, looooove you!!!!

[stillies77]

WOW


this trailer covers pretty much everything everyone has always wanted to know or has always wanted to find out...this looks really good.

[whatsupwithat]

Wow, that looks like a great documentary. When and where can I get it? I would love to buy it or rent it and watch it with my GF. I'm sure she will be pissed that I got it for us to watch because she has probably been through all that stuff. But I am still very curious to see it and I know she will give in and watch it with me.

thank you, dan! we are in the process of talking to networks and speaking to investors (anyone want to help us?)

it will be a 10-part documentary series, with each part focusing on one of the girls and her life and issues and dreams and hopes.

:)

[whatsupwithat]

WOW


this trailer covers pretty much everything everyone has always wanted to know or has always wanted to find out...this looks really good.

thank you, stillies! wows are so definitely much appreciated by all of us involved!! :)

[whatsupwithat]

This looks like it's going to be a good documentary. I watched the trailer several times because there so much packed in there and I notice more and more each time. Lots of familiar faces.
I hope it gets picked up by HBO or another network that wouldn't have it censored. You did a great job on this. :claps

Bigguy, thank you oh so very much. I'm passing on all the comments to the people involved so they can know that they have the support and love of people like yourself. :)

[whatsupwithat]

Great Trailer "whatsupwithat" !! Has you entered the documentry into any film festivals?

thanks, patrick! it will be a 10-part documentary television series and we are looking for a network home for it now...also investors to help us along the way as we have spent a lot of our own money and could use some help! :)

many thanks, again.

[mbf]

@Allanah and whatsupwithat:

the reason this project is very important and my (limited, due to beein in a remote place at the moment) support for it is fueled by personal experience.

not only due to my own personal history of knowing TS face-2-face, but also from my involvment with the music-industry as a musician and (freelance) music journalist/promotor.

my musical tastes have always been rather "undergound" - never really mainstream/charts-oriented - and I had to deal with "mainstream"-journalists repeatedly. and no matter how much effort you put into the talks with those guys, the resulting articles/film clips about our venues/bands/parties were always sensationalist, highly fabricated, putting emphasis on things WE thought were unimportant. we nevertheless did those PR-activities bc it was good marketing.

the same I assume is true for that project. If it is beeing done by people from within the community, things will probably be shown in a way more authentic way, avoiding emphasis on the sensationolist aspects of that community (that surely exist) .

[whatsupwithat]

@Allanah and whatsupwithat:

the reason this project is very important and my (limited, due to beein in a remote place at the moment) support for it is fueled by personal experience.

not only due to my own personal history of knowing TS face-2-face, but also from my involvment with the music-industry as a musician and (freelance) music journalist/promotor.

my musical tastes have always been rather "undergound" - never really mainstream/charts-oriented - and I had to deal with "mainstream"-journalists repeatedly. and no matter how much effort you put into the talks with those guys, the resulting articles/film clips about our venues/bands/parties were always sensationalist, highly fabricated, putting emphasis on things WE thought were unimportant. we nevertheless did those PR-activities bc it was good marketing.

the same I assume is true for that project. If it is beeing done by people from within the community, things will probably be shown in a way more authentic way, avoiding emphasis on the sensationolist aspects of that community (that surely exist) .

mbf, thank you for your kind words.

i so hear you on the way the media portrays things. we are talking with reporters now from some major ny outlets and i would be lying if i didn't say i'm nervous as all fuck about what they will print or show. at least with one of the major ny papers (one of the more sensationalist ones) i have a friend who works there in a position of authority, so i'm not that worried about that one. but the others...yeah. very much so.

btw, i worked at a major label for years, so i can very much relate to your experiences. it was not my favorite industry to be part of...by a long shot.

[NewYorker]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

[Foreskin]

Just caught it!

Amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!


www.beingT.com



Wow, I want to know where I can get a hold of this when it is completed! Don't let me down, I loved the trailer

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Like I said to E lastnight, I love it! I wanna go see it when and IF it gets shown in LA. :P

I seen one guy I know way back and used to chat with. LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[NewYorker]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)

You're totally entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you're happy with it, especially since you're in it. However, as an editor and a documentarian, I have problems with it on a very specific level. As I said, I'm not attacking the actually documentary, or even the trailer, but if this is what's being used to sell the film or raise money to complete it I think it needs work. I think it's a great subject for a documentary, and would love to see it completed, and so felt I should speak up.

[whatsupwithat]

You're totally entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you're happy with it, especially since you're in it. However, as an editor and a documentarian, I have problems with it on a very specific level. As I said, I'm not attacking the actually documentary, or even the trailer, but if this is what's being used to sell the film or raise money to complete it I think it needs work. I think it's a great subject for a documentary, and would love to see it completed, and so felt I should speak up.

thank you so much for your thoughts. really. i like to hear them all...good or bad. and we all have different tastes. and styles. best of luck with your documenting and editing! if you're in nyc, we should get together and talk shop sometime. :)

[NewYorker]

You're totally entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you're happy with it, especially since you're in it. However, as an editor and a documentarian, I have problems with it on a very specific level. As I said, I'm not attacking the actually documentary, or even the trailer, but if this is what's being used to sell the film or raise money to complete it I think it needs work. I think it's a great subject for a documentary, and would love to see it completed, and so felt I should speak up.

thank you so much for your thoughts. really. i like to hear them all...good or bad. and we all have different tastes. and styles. best of luck with your documenting and editing! if you're in nyc, we should get together and talk shop sometime. :)

I work in midtown actually. I wanted to come down to the screening but couldn't get out early enough to make it. I think it's a great topic. A friend did a piece that touched on some similiar but in a very different way a couple of years ago and I always thought it would be a great subject to do properly.

Did you edit this on with AVID or FCP?

[whatsupwithat]

Like I said to E lastnight, I love it! I wanna go see it when and IF it gets shown in LA. :P

I seen one guy I know way back and used to chat with. LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

love you, hara! thank you. :)

and it will be shown there and everywhere. i promise you that.

[whatsupwithat]

[

i pm'd you.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)

You're totally entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you're happy with it, especially since you're in it. However, as an editor and a documentarian, I have problems with it on a very specific level. As I said, I'm not attacking the actually documentary, or even the trailer, but if this is what's being used to sell the film or raise money to complete it I think it needs work. I think it's a great subject for a documentary, and would love to see it completed, and so felt I should speak up.

Darling I am not arguing with you. Obviously you stated your opinion and I mine. No one said you were attacking anything- nor was I debating you.

YOU are entitled to think whatever you wish about it- as am I.


I am glad you are pleased that I am pleased- as I was pleased already before you were pleased.

So let's both be pleased that we are pleased :)

And always even a proffesional opinion, as well as my opinion- is just that an opinion. Not a matter of fact.....

[MrsKellyPierce]

I just watched the trailer and the only thing I wasn't impressed with was Oprahs comment and the audiences laughter.

[hondarobot]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)

You're totally entitled to your opinion and I'm glad you're happy with it, especially since you're in it. However, as an editor and a documentarian, I have problems with it on a very specific level. As I said, I'm not attacking the actually documentary, or even the trailer, but if this is what's being used to sell the film or raise money to complete it I think it needs work. I think it's a great subject for a documentary, and would love to see it completed, and so felt I should speak up.

Darling I am not arguing with you. Obviously you stated your opinion and I mine. No one said you were attacking anything- nor was I debating you.

YOU are entitled to think whatever you wish about it- as am I.


I am glad you are pleased that I am pleased- as I was pleased already before you were pleased.

So let's both be pleased that we are pleased :)

And always even a proffesional opinion, as well as my opinion- is just that an opinion. Not a matter of fact.....

I think this project is brilliant, anyone who attacks me in other threads, I'll fuck you up. Oh, I love Blondie, and we're all kinda crazy. That's the world we live in. There's more to it, but it's not my problem.

8)

[theone]

Not doing any bashing or whatever.
But I just tried watching the trailer oh High-Res and it was stopped part way through, only for my computer to inform me that it contained a virus.

Not sure if that was a problem from your website or on my side, I'm computer-illiterate.

However, from what I had seen of it, I was impressed beyond all comprehension. This type of project had to done, and I get the distinct impression that you and your team were the right people for the job.

Thank You.

[whatsupwithat]

Not doing any bashing or whatever.
But I just tried watching the trailer oh High-Res and it was stopped part way through, only for my computer to inform me that it contained a virus.

Not sure if that was a problem from your website or on my side, I'm computer-illiterate.

However, from what I had seen of it, I was impressed beyond all comprehension. This type of project had to done, and I get the distinct impression that you and your team were the right people for the job.

Thank You.

hey. thank you! :)

yeah, we are having some difficulties and i'm on it with the web guy. can i ask what browser you were using?

[theone]

Internet Explorer 7.

[Quiet Reflections]

looks like a good watch

[Nikka]

lovely trailer :)

[whatsupwithat]

Thank you, Quiet Reflections and Nikka! :)

theone...explorer has been giving us tons of grief. we've also put up a quicktime version now, as well. :)

[whatsupwithat]

I just watched the trailer and the only thing I wasn't impressed with was Oprahs comment and the audiences laughter.


kelly! thank you, beautiful!!

and i hear you on oprah. it's why we put it in there. do you know they actually edited out part of that exchange in the show? angelika retorted and oprah wouldn't hear it.

i can't say i was a fan of oprah before, but now...definitely not.

[Hazel Tucker]

Can't wait to see it.

[WendyWilliams]

I just watched the trailer and it left me with several emotions: Fear,sadness, anger (oprah part), disgust, and the list goes on, AMAZING trailer.

Wendy

[poleskr]

Wow! I've been really getting into documentaries lately and this is one I gotta see. I can relate to the sexually confused guys they showed on there. I guess that's a part of a guy's evolution when first exposed to transsexual porn. It definitely shakes your belief system about sexuality and who you are as a man. But, I'm sure over time as you get into transsexuals more and more you learn to accept your sexuality not as either striaght, gay or bi but just a human loving other humans.

[whatsupwithat]

I just watched the trailer and it left me with several emotions: Fear,sadness, anger (oprah part), disgust, and the list goes on, AMAZING trailer.

Wendy


hi wendy. thank you so much! everyone involved thanks you...and we were and still are all very much involved with seeing the project through. :)


hazel, thank you! and from an nyc girl, to boot! :)

[whatsupwithat]

Wow! I've been really getting into documentaries lately and this is one I gotta see. I can relate to the sexually confused guys they showed on there. I guess that's a part of a guy's evolution when first exposed to transsexual porn. It definitely shakes your belief system about sexuality and who you are as a man. But, I'm sure over time as you get into transsexuals more and more you learn to accept your sexuality not as either striaght, gay or bi but just a human loving other humans.


thanks, poleskr!

we will be focusing heavily on the guys in our series. and i want to give these particular guys a shout out for having the balls to appear and put themselves out there. so many of the men out there won't. these men did. and for that, they deserve a big hand and all our support. :)

[hwbs]

rock on 4 the guys !!!!!

[flabbybody]

it finally opened on my computer via the quicktime version.
very powerful. can't wait to see the final product.

[whatsupwithat]

thanks, flabbybody! much appreciate the kudos.

m77, i'll pm you on that.

[echimandu]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)Wait a minute. Let me understand something here. New Yorker works on and edits documentaries for a living. You watch them. Hmmm. Thats kinda like Brett Ratner having an opinion about a film he saw and some movie goer jumping down his throat for it. Why is it that civilians want to tell the professionals how things should be done? Whatever, at any rate, critical opinions are a part of the industry. And sometimes someone with a more well trained eye for the product may in fact have a point. And does Oprah have to like everyone? She's has a right to dislike things just like everyone else. I didn't hear her comments because I've not watched the trailer. Nor will I. No desire to. So I don't know what she said or the tone she used. But this is a reflection of a larger issue that I talked about before. Everything is fine and dandy in a trannies world as long as everyone praises them. The minute someone has something even remotely negative to say(constructive or not) one of you girls jumps down his throat. And Allanah, as much as you've done, putting yourself out there, promoting this and that, completley leaving yourself open for all kinds of criticism. I would like to think that New Yorker's comments would be just that. And he would be left alone by you. I would expect this from some other fragile egos on this board who haven't had nearly the exposure as yourself.

[whatislove]

Way to skim, echi... :roll:

Civilized people can disagree civilly.

[Mami-Liiciouz]

i finally got to see it fully without it freezing in the middle, i hearts; it.

can't wait to see it when it airs!

sell it to the judgesssss hunny! lolx dina is too much! love her and she was so funny and entertaining in the youtube clip. her and allanah need their own reality show or something. =]

and paris is a scandal, "walking down the street looking a brick mess" lolx.

oh p.s. ... i showed my mom, she enjoyed the trailer as well.

[LBCDO]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)Wait a minute. Let me understand something here. New Yorker works on and edits documentaries for a living. You watch them. Hmmm. Thats kinda like Brett Ratner having an opinion about a film he saw and some movie goer jumping down his throat for it. Why is it that civilians want to tell the professionals how things should be done? Whatever, at any rate, critical opinions are a part of the industry. And sometimes someone with a more well trained eye for the product may in fact have a point. And does Oprah have to like everyone? She's has a right to dislike things just like everyone else. I didn't hear her comments because I've not watched the trailer. Nor will I. No desire to. So I don't know what she said or the tone she used. But this is a reflection of a larger issue that I talked about before. Everything is fine and dandy in a trannies world as long as everyone praises them. The minute someone has something even remotely negative to say(constructive or not) one of you girls jumps down his throat. And Allanah, as much as you've done, putting yourself out there, promoting this and that, completley leaving yourself open for all kinds of criticism. I would like to think that New Yorker's comments would be just that. And he would be left alone by you. I would expect this from some other fragile egos on this board who haven't had nearly the exposure as yourself.

See, now I think I should throw in my $.02. Techincally, Allanahs view, and those of the people on this board would weigh A HELL OF A LOT MORE, like 5000x more than that of a documentarian because who do you think the target audience is with the Trailor [lets keep in mind, we can only judge the effectiveness of the trailor because thats what we saw]. Do you think that the TARGET audience, the people who will see the film [let it be in a local movie house or pressed on DVD] is going to have a client base of video editors and producers of documentaries, or Transexuals and their admirers? It is the goal of the producer to create something that shows his style and is also appealing for the target audience.

I am a photographer for a nightclub, and the owner hates my pics but the club gets tons of compliments for them. So he told me to change my style or lose my job. Now if the pictures are for the patron to view, and the patrons are viewing and enjoying them, what logic would their be in changing my style?

Plus one editor will always look at ways that someone could have done things different. I also do graphic design also, and look at a lot of work that just sucks IMHO, but everyone else says that its not bad. Thats why everyone has their own style of doing things. A Michael Bay and John Woo film are both action flicks, but nowhere near the same. Think about it, and tell me who is going about things the right and wrong way

[echimandu]

I'm sorry to be negative but I really don't like this trailer. I think the documentary is a great idea and it looks like you got an incredible amount of access but the trailer is needlessly chaotic. At times it almost feels like the trailer to a horror movies with the way it throws scattered, brief images at you. It jumps around in subject matter too in an uncoordinated way. Again, I'm not bashing the actually documentary but as a fundraising tool (I think I saw you say a couple pages up that it was being used as such) I don't think this works. (As a point of reference I'm a video editor and documentarian)

As an avid documentary viewer I disagree.

It's fast paced, exciting, and in you face- like New York City and many of the girls here. I think the trailer is a reflection of the subject- the craziness- the high and lows- the chaos.

It's very entertaining and I clearly see a story line in the trailer-the sadness and happiness in all of our lives and that we are all in fact just human beings with a unique set of issues.

As a consumate detailed indivudual-if it did not make sense to me or if it was crappy I would have told Eric right away when I saw a preview weeks ago.

I think the team did an excellent job.

Like Dina Says-

"If this is too much for you-the fuck you....LA'

:)Wait a minute. Let me understand something here. New Yorker works on and edits documentaries for a living. You watch them. Hmmm. Thats kinda like Brett Ratner having an opinion about a film he saw and some movie goer jumping down his throat for it. Why is it that civilians want to tell the professionals how things should be done? Whatever, at any rate, critical opinions are a part of the industry. And sometimes someone with a more well trained eye for the product may in fact have a point. And does Oprah have to like everyone? She's has a right to dislike things just like everyone else. I didn't hear her comments because I've not watched the trailer. Nor will I. No desire to. So I don't know what she said or the tone she used. But this is a reflection of a larger issue that I talked about before. Everything is fine and dandy in a trannies world as long as everyone praises them. The minute someone has something even remotely negative to say(constructive or not) one of you girls jumps down his throat. And Allanah, as much as you've done, putting yourself out there, promoting this and that, completley leaving yourself open for all kinds of criticism. I would like to think that New Yorker's comments would be just that. And he would be left alone by you. I would expect this from some other fragile egos on this board who haven't had nearly the exposure as yourself.

See, now I think I should throw in my $.02. Techincally, Allanahs view, and those of the people on this board would weigh A HELL OF A LOT MORE, like 5000x more than that of a documentarian because who do you think the target audience is with the Trailor [lets keep in mind, we can only judge the effectiveness of the trailor because thats what we saw]. Do you think that the TARGET audience, the people who will see the film [let it be in a local movie house or pressed on DVD] is going to have a client base of video editors and producers of documentaries, or Transexuals and their admirers? It is the goal of the producer to create something that shows his style and is also appealing for the target audience.

I am a photographer for a nightclub, and the owner hates my pics but the club gets tons of compliments for them. So he told me to change my style or lose my job. Now if the pictures are for the patron to view, and the patrons are viewing and enjoying them, what logic would their be in changing my style?

Plus one editor will always look at ways that someone could have done things different. I also do graphic design also, and look at a lot of work that just sucks IMHO, but everyone else says that its not bad. Thats why everyone has their own style of doing things. A Michael Bay and John Woo film are both action flicks, but nowhere near the same. Think about it, and tell me who is going about things the right and wrong wayFrom the sounds of things, it seems as though they're going for a much broader audience than that.

[LBCDO]

I shouldve been a little more clear. I meant as in opinions on this board. And I think you're missing one point. The opinion of an editor is nilt compared to someone who enjoys docu's, in the eyes of a producer. Thats the bigger picture

[whatsupwithat]

Wait a minute. Let me understand something here. New Yorker works on and edits documentaries for a living. You watch them. Hmmm. Thats kinda like Brett Ratner having an opinion about a film he saw and some movie goer jumping down his throat for it.

I wouldn't normally respond to something like this, but i think it needs to be before the entire thread gets derailed into some crazy critique on crticism.

1) I'm all for New Yorker expressing his opinion and I clearly stated that. I think it adds to the dialogue....which the entire community should be a part of. He knows this very well and we are communicating through PMs.

2) To compare this situation to Brett Ratner having an opinion and moviegoer jumping down his throat is ingenious. You elevated New Yorker into some venerated film professional without knowing his credentials and made Allanah out to be unworthy of responding. Let me tell you this. Allanah is a very smart and profesionally savvy woman...and I value her opinion. I value the opinions of all involved. To make her opinion out to be less than is very false on your part...and really quite demeaning to her and to all who worked on and are working on this project.

3) I'm sorry you don't want to watch the trailer. Whatever your reasons, I thought I'd let you know that my mom always wanted me to eat spinach. I wouldn't because I hated it. One day I ate it. I loved it.

4) Much peace.

ps - Brett loves the trailer. Thanks. :)

[TrueBeauty TS]

ps - Brett loves the trailer, too. Thanks. :)



She sure does!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40pTxP0S9Ms


:D


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[whatsupwithat]

[quote=whatsupwithat]

ps - Brett loves the trailer, too. Thanks. :)



She sure does!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40pTxP0S9Ms


:D


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hahaha!

:P

[MrsKellyPierce]

Echimandu you are a fucking ass!

thats all

And the Oprah thing, she totally disreguarded her for who she was and was quite rude it was distasteful as a GUEST on her show. As it would be for anyone as a GUEST for the interviewer to be rude and make fun of you.

[whatsupwithat]

Oprah owes a huge apology to angelika and the rest of the t community.