WHAT WILL YOU TGIRLS DO WHEN YOU'RE OLDER??

[house]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?

[marissaazts]

What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?

i think you are an asshole and you wonder why you are charged for sex

[TsVanessa69]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think? What an asshole. I wonder how you look now, much less when you get older. Lets switch shoes, who is gonna want to be with your ignorant ass, no matter how you look on the outside, you are ugly on the inside. Now as far as looks, you should bring to the table what you want in return. If you want a Barbie doll at 50, then you better look like Ken, or be a trick for the rest of your life. Maybe you're a trick now, HMMM???

[house]

What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?

i think you are an asshole and you wonder why you are charged for sex

Sometimes ill pay and sometimes ill just get it. But I dont wonder why im paying if i do. If i pay its b/c i used it as a quickie service without the conversation, just like buying a sofa or a TV. The real question here is why you took it so offensively? Are you worried about your looks fading and the fact that you haven't planned for the future? Or maybe you already look bad so you don't even want to think what you'll look like in 20 years? There has to be a reason why you took it so personally. That's what i want to know.

[TsVanessa69]

How about you post your pics so we can see how you look.

[house]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think? What an asshole. I wonder how you look now, much less when you get older. Lets switch shoes, who is gonna want to be with your ignorant ass, no matter how you look on the outside, you are ugly on the inside. Now as far as looks, you should bring to the table what you want in return. If you want a Barbie doll at 50, then you better look like Ken, or be a trick for the rest of your life. Maybe you're a trick now, HMMM???

First off, spean english notorious BIG - i dont understand some of the words you used. And don't take it so offensively. I was asking what most guys at some point are going to ask themselves anyway. Doesnt mean im a bad guy, just rational.
As to the question of "what about me"? Well think about it this way. I could be good looking (guilty as charged) and still looking good at 50. Or i could be just decent and i'd still look fine at age 50 b/c that is societys norm for men. However, if a 50 year old tgirl starts looking like something in between a 50 year old guy and a 50 year old girl, it's not going to fit in with any of societys norms.
Im asking a legitimate question that you ought to have asked yourself already unless you're living in fantasy land (guys love me for who i am and will always love me, even when i look like an old guy tgirl).

[jefferson1776]

yo house you are a funny ass muthafucka

[TsVanessa69]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think? What an asshole. I wonder how you look now, much less when you get older. Lets switch shoes, who is gonna want to be with your ignorant ass, no matter how you look on the outside, you are ugly on the inside. Now as far as looks, you should bring to the table what you want in return. If you want a Barbie doll at 50, then you better look like Ken, or be a trick for the rest of your life. Maybe you're a trick now, HMMM???

First off, spean english notorious BIG - i dont understand some of the words you used. And don't take it so offensively. I was asking what most guys at some point are going to ask themselves anyway. Doesnt mean im a bad guy, just rational.
As to the question of "what about me"? Well think about it this way. I could be good looking (guilty as charged) and still looking good at 50. Or i could be just decent and i'd still look fine at age 50 b/c that is societys norm for men. However, if a 50 year old tgirl starts looking like something in between a 50 year old guy and a 50 year old girl, it's not going to fit in with any of societys norms.
Im asking a legitimate question that you ought to have asked yourself already unless you're living in fantasy land (guys love me for who i am and will always love me, even when i look like an old guy tgirl). T-Girl, male or female, looks are to be maintained. I know many breathtaking older trans woman. We maintain ourselves better than genetic females and we age slower. How was that for speaking good english ignorant bastard. Trying to say I can't speak english because you made an ass of yourself doesn't make me look bad. I'm Puerto-Rican and proud. But my english is better than yours, my spelling too. "spean"?? is that even a word??? :roll:

[house]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think? What an asshole. I wonder how you look now, much less when you get older. Lets switch shoes, who is gonna want to be with your ignorant ass, no matter how you look on the outside, you are ugly on the inside. Now as far as looks, you should bring to the table what you want in return. If you want a Barbie doll at 50, then you better look like Ken, or be a trick for the rest of your life. Maybe you're a trick now, HMMM???

First off, spean english notorious BIG - i dont understand some of the words you used. And don't take it so offensively. I was asking what most guys at some point are going to ask themselves anyway. Doesnt mean im a bad guy, just rational.
As to the question of "what about me"? Well think about it this way. I could be good looking (guilty as charged) and still looking good at 50. Or i could be just decent and i'd still look fine at age 50 b/c that is societys norm for men. However, if a 50 year old tgirl starts looking like something in between a 50 year old guy and a 50 year old girl, it's not going to fit in with any of societys norms.
Im asking a legitimate question that you ought to have asked yourself already unless you're living in fantasy land (guys love me for who i am and will always love me, even when i look like an old guy tgirl). T-Girl, male or female, looks are to be maintained. I know many breathtaking older trans woman. We maintain ourselves better than genetic females and we age slower. How was that for speaking good english ignorant bastard. Trying to say I can't speak english because you made an ass of yourself doesn't make me look bad. I'm Puerto-Rican and proud. But my english is better than yours, my spelling too. "spean"?? is that even a word??? :roll:

So if that's true (and i haven't seen any pictures of older good looking ts's in my life), wouldnt one have seen some of them by now? But no no! I take your word for it. Really, I believe you. Just like i believe you when you say something like, "we age slower". Somebody give a call to New England Journal of Medicine! Who knew that you could somehow age slower by being a tgirl? Interesting finding! No no, i'll stop now! Ok ok...thats it, i believe you.
"im Puerto Rican and proud..." Good for you! So you are descended from folks from an island in the caribbean. That's good to know! Thanks for telling me!

[Tara Emory]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

[TsVanessa69]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-TaraThats excatly what I was trying to say, guess I was just the wrong color.

[TsVanessa69]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think? What an asshole. I wonder how you look now, much less when you get older. Lets switch shoes, who is gonna want to be with your ignorant ass, no matter how you look on the outside, you are ugly on the inside. Now as far as looks, you should bring to the table what you want in return. If you want a Barbie doll at 50, then you better look like Ken, or be a trick for the rest of your life. Maybe you're a trick now, HMMM???

First off, spean english notorious BIG - i dont understand some of the words you used. And don't take it so offensively. I was asking what most guys at some point are going to ask themselves anyway. Doesnt mean im a bad guy, just rational.
As to the question of "what about me"? Well think about it this way. I could be good looking (guilty as charged) and still looking good at 50. Or i could be just decent and i'd still look fine at age 50 b/c that is societys norm for men. However, if a 50 year old tgirl starts looking like something in between a 50 year old guy and a 50 year old girl, it's not going to fit in with any of societys norms.
Im asking a legitimate question that you ought to have asked yourself already unless you're living in fantasy land (guys love me for who i am and will always love me, even when i look like an old guy tgirl). T-Girl, male or female, looks are to be maintained. I know many breathtaking older trans woman. We maintain ourselves better than genetic females and we age slower. How was that for speaking good english ignorant bastard. Trying to say I can't speak english because you made an ass of yourself doesn't make me look bad. I'm Puerto-Rican and proud. But my english is better than yours, my spelling too. "spean"?? is that even a word??? :roll:

So if that's true (and i haven't seen any pictures of older good looking ts's in my life), wouldnt one have seen some of them by now? But no no! I take your word for it. Really, I believe you. Just like i believe you when you say something like, "we age slower". Somebody give a call to New England Journal of Medicine! Who knew that you could somehow age slower by being a tgirl? Interesting finding! No no, i'll stop now! Ok ok...thats it, i believe you.
"im Puerto Rican and proud..." Good for you! So you are descended from folks from an island in the caribbean. That's good to know! Thanks for telling me! Well being a transwoman in the REAL world and not cyberland, I know and work with many trans woman in their 40"s and 50's who are stunning. The continue in their careers as showgirls, and get better looking with age. As far as aging slower, a doctor told me that females wrinkle faster than males, and weight maintainance is not the same either. And I was born in Caguas, Puerto-Rico, so I am as well as my decendants are from the Caribbean. Now all ts do not do porn. In the showgirl industry all over the world, older ts are seen on stage and appreciated on a daily basis, but since you live in cyberland and not reality, then you would never know that.

[2Kaiser]

Exhibit A.

[house]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-TaraThats excatly what I was trying to say, guess I was just the wrong color.


tara emory, that was a well thought out response and i see what you're saying. That makes alot of sense. It's good to see some folks can look at a question objectively rather than subjectively and not automatically assume it's an insult.
As for you Gary Sheffield, yes that's it...that's exactly it. I was turned off by your response based on the picture next to your name (you pinned it right, i hate people of color despite my own bit of color!), not the fact that you sounded loud, angry, uneducated and insulting. I find it hard to believe that "thats exactly what i was trying to say". You know vanessa, a trait some people find positive in people in general is acknowledging a mistake and apologizing. Or at least just keeping quiet when you look foolish.

[Falrune]

There is one point that the OP in this thread seems to overlook -- a number of the posters in that other thread (the one that I posted in, at least) appreciated the more mature look. I don't think TG are going to be any worse off than GG when it comes to aging

[MaxFactor]

Amen, brother. Gravity effects everyone. So if you don't find mature women sexy that there's a very good chance you won't find mature tgirls sexy.

[tsntx]

i happen to know quite a few older ts's

in fact most of the pretty ones post on this site and just lie about their age... you cant be 26 for 10yrs in a row you know...



not to mention the beasts in that thread obviously changed over far later in life then the "pornstars'' youre used to seeing.... starting young is the key to looking good as you age...


just like regular GG women... if they dont start a skin care regimine when they are young... they will look like beasts too... but surely this is common knowledge to you as you are a doctor -j

[house]

i happen to know quite a few older ts's

in fact most of the pretty ones post on this site and just lie about their age... you cant be 26 for 10yrs in a row you know...



not to mention the beasts in that thread obviously changed over far later in life then the "pornstars'' youre used to seeing.... starting young is the key to looking good as you age...


just like regular GG women... if they dont start a skin care regimine when they are young... they will look like beasts too... but surely this is common knowledge to you as you are a doctor -j

haha, good answer. Nice straight answer that makes sense. And the first sentence is pretty true. Maybe its just b/c nobody posts their real age that i havent seen any....as for you...i think you'll look hot at any age mes amis

[horndog]

Here comes Mr. Newbee opinion...

First off, Vanessa my dear, chica, no tome los comentarios tan gravemente bonita.

Although house could have worded his comments a bit differently, it's a legitimate question. Kind of interesting too.

Of course, gravity, free radicals and genetics conspire against ALL of us... :cry:

Dammit Tara, I'd like to give you a medical examination RIGHT now... :lol:

[TsVanessa69]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-TaraThats excatly what I was trying to say, guess I was just the wrong color.


tara emory, that was a well thought out response and i see what you're saying. That makes alot of sense. It's good to see some folks can look at a question objectively rather than subjectively and not automatically assume it's an insult.
As for you Gary Sheffield, yes that's it...that's exactly it. I was turned off by your response based on the picture next to your name (you pinned it right, i hate people of color despite my own bit of color!), not the fact that you sounded loud, angry, uneducated and insulting. I find it hard to believe that "thats exactly what i was trying to say". You know vanessa, a trait some people find positive in people in general is acknowledging a mistake and apologizing. Or at least just keeping quiet when you look foolish.Wel then you should be quiet, because you look like a fool. Take your own advice. And as I mentioned before, since you are so wrapped up on looks, where are YOUR pic?

[TsVanessa69]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?My gut instinct is to say, "It happened to your mom, and her Johns kept coming back." But I'm above it. ;)

But seriously, I think TS usually age better than GG's anyway.

Now what's all this nonsense about anyone wanting to be with you for the rest of their lives? ;) See my point AGAIN!!!!!!!! and all from a guy who is a nameless, faceless admitted trick. The nerve of some people :roll:

[TsVanessa69]

Like I said before, male, female or trans, its all the same, its how you maintain yourself. Now what beautiful trans woman would not maintain herself, especially in this day and age and all we have available to us. But the ball swings both ways. If you are so demanding on how you feel the woman in your life looks, which is very shallow of you, can you bring the same? Is she going to always be attracted to what she see's? In a real loving relationship, looks are not that important, as a loving relationship is based on just that LOVE. And love is blind.

[house]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?My gut instinct is to say, "It happened to your mom, and her Johns kept coming back." But I'm above it. ;)

But seriously, I think TS usually age better than GG's anyway.

Now what's all this nonsense about anyone wanting to be with you for the rest of their lives? ;)

I almost might have felt bad if a good looking tgirl had said that to me.

[house]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?My gut instinct is to say, "It happened to your mom, and her Johns kept coming back." But I'm above it. ;)

But seriously, I think TS usually age better than GG's anyway.

Now what's all this nonsense about anyone wanting to be with you for the rest of their lives? ;) See my point AGAIN!!!!!!!! and all from a guy who is a nameless, faceless admitted trick. The nerve of some people :roll:

Your "point" is ever evolving to include the POINT made by the poster before you. Regardless, you want me to post a picture? I'm sure i've done so at some point. I wouldn't do it like a dog pulling tricks b/c some chick told me to do so. You ought to know what i look like considering you added me on myspace once and I thought "ok...fine". Don't make me rethink that decision.

[marissaazts]

Sometimes ill pay and sometimes ill just get it. But I dont wonder why im paying if i do. If i pay its b/c i used it as a quickie service without the conversation, just like buying a sofa or a TV. The real question here is why you took it so offensively? Are you worried about your looks fading and the fact that you haven't planned for the future? Or maybe you already look bad so you don't even want to think what you'll look like in 20 years? There has to be a reason why you took it so personally. That's what i want to know.

accutally asshole i retired in 1998 at 34 after i sold my business then did my transition and live off of that and the trust fund my folkes left me, my future is set an i need no man to support me, i have never had to rely on my appearance for income

[TsVanessa69]

I just saw a thread about mature ts's. They look like theyre in their 40s, 50s and i have to say, it doesnt look so appealing. I dont even want to think what theyll look like in their 60's and 70s. Can you imagine being in a long term relationship with them??
So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of? And the girls on this site? I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls. But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do. At some point it has to break down. Personally, this is one of the biggest reasons why i couldnt get into a real relationship with a tgirl. What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?My gut instinct is to say, "It happened to your mom, and her Johns kept coming back." But I'm above it. ;)

But seriously, I think TS usually age better than GG's anyway.

Now what's all this nonsense about anyone wanting to be with you for the rest of their lives? ;) See my point AGAIN!!!!!!!! and all from a guy who is a nameless, faceless admitted trick. The nerve of some people :roll:

Your "point" is ever evolving to include the POINT made by the poster before you. Regardless, you want me to post a picture? I'm sure i've done so at some point. I wouldn't do it like a dog pulling tricks b/c some chick told me to do so. You ought to know what i look like considering you added me on myspace once and I thought "ok...fine". Don't make me rethink that decision. Well your ignorance proves that looks are not everything. As far as the myspace thing, who gives a fuck, delete me I don't think one less "friend" will kill me. Get a clue asshole.

[tsmandy]

I can't imagine why I would give a shit. I plan on much bigger things than looking good in my 50's, though I bet I will still turn a few heads.

[foolish99]

I think your post is pretty ignorant not because the question is itself inappropriate or rude (though it is), and not because you come off as arrogant and superficial (though you do), but rather because I think the basic premise is false.

I agree with Nicole and Vanessa that most Tgirls are capable of ageing more gracefully than Ggirls. I have dated several Tgirls in their 30's and I have been with a few Tgirls in their 40's. All of them were far more 'hardbodied' and 'better kept' than similarly aged ggirls I have been with. There are a lot of unfortunate reasons that there are not a lot of older tgirls who are beautiful --- a higher incidence of drug abuse, suicide, death from disease, etc. -- and I imagine that these problems are even more common among the more 'beautiful' tgirls who might live a wild lifestyle in their youth. Also, as you note, advances in cosmetic surgery, hormone treatments, etc., have recently made it possible for the girls we love to become even more beautiful and more feminine ---- this generation of girls is still young and I think we are all going to be lucky to see the girls we love age and get more beautiful with age ....

[SUPPLY42]

Ok. Now lets put this thing to bed right now. House you are a jerk and evidentialy do not know what you are talking about. Even though this was a legit question, you really do not have a clue. I am a 50 year old guy. I take care of myself, just as many other people do. This includes most of the ladies that are participating in this forum. The bottom line is, people age as gracfully as they maintain their physical being. Don't take care of yourself and you age badly. Take care of yourself and you will age gracefully. I for one enjoy the company of older tgirls. In fact I wish more of the ladies out their would be more honest when stating their ages. Nothing wrong with being 35 or 40. I do not think of my partnet as a tgirl nor have I ever (maybe when I was much younger and more foolish). Tara, you are adorable, just as the other ladies participating in this particuliar conversation. Take care of yourself and you will age into a more beautiful person. House, you will probably age into an old, hypocritical fool. Pick on yourself and leave the ladies alone. Enough said.

[Oli]

My gut instinct is to say, "It happened to your mom, and her Johns kept coming back." But I'm above it. ;)

But seriously, I think TS usually age better than GG's anyway.

Now what's all this nonsense about anyone wanting to be with you for the rest of their lives? ;)

What, no 'Cock Bandit'? Your mellowing a litlle. :wink:

[Rod la Rod]

I can't imagine why I would give a shit. I plan on much bigger things than looking good in my 50's, though I bet I will still turn a few heads.


TS or GG, if you are over 45 and have been escorting or doing porn for the last 20 years, you are in trouble.

Unless you are catering to the fetish/dom/slave crowd, there is little demand for a mature escort for straight sex much less porn.

I think a mature TS can look as good as a mature GG but who says it is easy for an actractive mature GG to find a quality partner.

Most successful/professional middle aged men are looking for a younger woman to start a second or third family, or a woman of the same age who is also successful/professional. That's just the way it is.

The question is not what you are going to look like at age 45. It is how are you going to make a living?

[house]

Ok. Now lets put this thing to bed right now. House you are a jerk and evidentialy do not know what you are talking about. Even though this was a legit question, you really do not have a clue. I am a 50 year old guy. I take care of myself, just as many other people do. This includes most of the ladies that are participating in this forum. The bottom line is, people age as gracfully as they maintain their physical being. Don't take care of yourself and you age badly. Take care of yourself and you will age gracefully. I for one enjoy the company of older tgirls. In fact I wish more of the ladies out their would be more honest when stating their ages. Nothing wrong with being 35 or 40. I do not think of my partnet as a tgirl nor have I ever (maybe when I was much younger and more foolish). Tara, you are adorable, just as the other ladies participating in this particuliar conversation. Take care of yourself and you will age into a more beautiful person. House, you will probably age into an old, hypocritical fool. Pick on yourself and leave the ladies alone. Enough said.

awww, an old guy acting chivalrous. I didn't make a judgement. I asked a question. Do yourself a favor and don't butt in to a conversation if you have nothing to add. And while you're at it, get on that treadmill and get rid of the paunch.

[house]

Sometimes ill pay and sometimes ill just get it. But I dont wonder why im paying if i do. If i pay its b/c i used it as a quickie service without the conversation, just like buying a sofa or a TV. The real question here is why you took it so offensively? Are you worried about your looks fading and the fact that you haven't planned for the future? Or maybe you already look bad so you don't even want to think what you'll look like in 20 years? There has to be a reason why you took it so personally. That's what i want to know.

accutally asshole i retired in 1998 at 34 after i sold my business then did my transition and live off of that and the trust fund my folkes left me, my future is set an i need no man to support me, i have never had to rely on my appearance for income

good for you. do i care? no. But good for you. You're retired at age 43 and living off a fund and don't need to rely on good looks. A WINNER!

[TsVanessa69]

I think your post is pretty ignorant not because the question is itself inappropriate or rude (though it is), and not because you come off as arrogant and superficial (though you do), but rather because I think the basic premise is false.

I agree with Nicole and Vanessa that most Tgirls are capable of ageing more gracefully than Ggirls. I have dated several Tgirls in their 30's and I have been with a few Tgirls in their 40's. All of them were far more 'hardbodied' and 'better kept' than similarly aged ggirls I have been with. There are a lot of unfortunate reasons that there are not a lot of older tgirls who are beautiful --- a higher incidence of drug abuse, suicide, death from disease, etc. -- and I imagine that these problems are even more common among the more 'beautiful' tgirls who might live a wild lifestyle in their youth. Also, as you note, advances in cosmetic surgery, hormone treatments, etc., have recently made it possible for the girls we love to become even more beautiful and more feminine ---- this generation of girls is still young and I think we are all going to be lucky to see the girls we love age and get more beautiful with age ....
You hit the nail on the head. See we are the best of both worlds. My doctor already explained that ts would take on the male genes and wrinkle slower and as you stated, stay "hardbodied" much longer than a female. I work with a few girls in their mid 50's and they perform on a weekly basis, shit Miss Sherri Payne of the Baton Show Loungs is over 55 and can dance and high kick and do the splits, I can't even do that. Age has nothing to do with looks. Olivia Love is a prime example, she is mature and still breahtaking.

[TsVanessa69]

I almost might have felt bad if a good looking tgirl had said that to me.Regardless of what you think of me, the chances of anyone spending their life with a guy like you are slim to none. Let's see a 21 yr old TS who would even give you a freebie BJ, let alone attach a ball and chain to you. So let's not get ourselves too worked up over a hypothetical scenario that you'll never have the opportunity to test anyway.Yea and he already admits he is a trick. Just like they say " you can't make a hoe into a housewife", you shure the fuck can't turn a trick into a husband!!!! :wink:

[tsmandy]

TS or GG, if you are over 45 and have been escorting or doing porn for the last 20 years, you are in trouble.

Unless you are catering to the fetish/dom/slave crowd, there is little demand for a mature escort for straight sex much less porn.

I think a mature TS can look as good as a mature GG but who says it is easy for an actractive mature GG to find a quality partner.

Most successful/professional middle aged men are looking for a younger woman to start a second or third family, or a woman of the same age who is also successful/professional. That's just the way it is.

The question is not what you are going to look like at age 45. It is how are you going to make a living?

I can't really fathom (for me) escorting or doing porn for the next 20 years, sounds terrible. As it is, I'm not really escorting anyways. But then again I can't imagine doing anything for that long at this point in my life. I can see doing it for the next 5 though, and hopefully by then I will have established something else.

I don't plan on meeting a rich man to take care of me, unless there is some rich man that wants to take care of me, and my partner. Otherwise, I think I will build a lifeplan around things that interest me, but in the meantime sex work allows me a tremendous amount of freedom and a modest income.

[house]

I think your post is pretty ignorant not because the question is itself inappropriate or rude (though it is), and not because you come off as arrogant and superficial (though you do), but rather because I think the basic premise is false.

I agree with Nicole and Vanessa that most Tgirls are capable of ageing more gracefully than Ggirls. I have dated several Tgirls in their 30's and I have been with a few Tgirls in their 40's. All of them were far more 'hardbodied' and 'better kept' than similarly aged ggirls I have been with. There are a lot of unfortunate reasons that there are not a lot of older tgirls who are beautiful --- a higher incidence of drug abuse, suicide, death from disease, etc. -- and I imagine that these problems are even more common among the more 'beautiful' tgirls who might live a wild lifestyle in their youth. Also, as you note, advances in cosmetic surgery, hormone treatments, etc., have recently made it possible for the girls we love to become even more beautiful and more feminine ---- this generation of girls is still young and I think we are all going to be lucky to see the girls we love age and get more beautiful with age ....
You hit the nail on the head. See we are the best of both worlds. My doctor already explained that ts would take on the male genes and wrinkle slower and as you stated, stay "hardbodied" much longer than a female. I work with a few girls in their mid 50's and they perform on a weekly basis, shit Miss Sherri Payne of the Baton Show Loungs is over 55 and can dance and high kick and do the splits, I can't even do that. Age has nothing to do with looks. Olivia Love is a prime example, she is mature and still breahtaking.

hmm, that is true about less wrinkles and the hard body (bc the muscles will stay on longer so the person will be more fit). i agree with that. and yeah, that girl olivia love does still look great so that's also true. ok that answers it.

[SUPPLY42]

To all the ladie out there, you should just ignore the creep. He is probably just a litle old man with nothing to do but make excuses for his dull and sorry life. Has nothing better to do with hmself but sit at his keyboard and trie to make excuses for the lack of his own verility by questioning others about theirs. By the way house, I worked my butt of to get to where I am today, self supporting, own a nice home, travel quite a bit and never use a tread mill. I run an average 10-15 miles a week (and that's a bad week) and probably date (not pay) more in a week then you pay for it in a year. Get a life.

[house]

I almost might have felt bad if a good looking tgirl had said that to me.Regardless of what you think of me, the chances of anyone spending their life with a guy like you are slim to none. Let's see a 21 yr old TS who would even give you a freebie BJ, let alone attach a ball and chain to you. So let's not get ourselves too worked up over a hypothetical scenario that you'll never have the opportunity to test anyway.

See "tsmandy" and her answer above? She said she's not going to depend on another to provide (that makes her smart). She also says she's going to build her life around what interests her and meanwhile make and set aside money for the future (that's also a mark of intelligence).
But your assumption is what we call "base". I think that if you didn't know who i was on this board, i could probably bed you for free (and that's a big if bc i sure as hell wouldnt want to) within 4 hours, probably the same night.

[tsmandy]

I almost might have felt bad if a good looking tgirl had said that to me.Regardless of what you think of me, the chances of anyone spending their life with a guy like you are slim to none. Let's see a 21 yr old TS who would even give you a freebie BJ, let alone attach a ball and chain to you. So let's not get ourselves too worked up over a hypothetical scenario that you'll never have the opportunity to test anyway.

See "tsmandy" and her answer above? She said she's not going to depend on another to provide (that makes her smart). She also says she's going to build her life around what interests her and meanwhile make and set aside money for the future (that's also a mark of intelligence).
But your assumption is what we call "base". I think that if you didn't know who i was on this board, i could probably bed you for free (and that's a big if bc i sure as hell wouldnt want to) within 4 hours, probably the same night.

Don't drag me into this, your'e on your own.

[house]

To all the ladie out there, you should just ignore the creep. He is probably just a litle old man with nothing to do but make excuses for his dull and sorry life. Has nothing better to do with hmself but sit at his keyboard and trie to make excuses for the lack of his own verility by questioning others about theirs. By the way house, I worked my butt of to get to where I am today, self supporting, own a nice home, travel quite a bit and never use a tread mill. I run an average 10-15 miles a week (and that's a bad week) and probably date (not pay) more in a week then you pay for it in a year. Get a life.

Between the two of us, you're the one trying hard to build up an image and attempting to mask false flattery with chivalry. That alone says all I need to know. I'd give you my biography but the thing is...i just don't care what a guy like you thinks so what's the point?

[TheShyGuy]

lol this message board is so dramatic! I think that's what makes it so fascinating. Every single time I visit this website, there's some sort of controversy. Someone questions someones mental health. Someone talks about coming back after a long hiatus and how they have changed in that time off. Then someone insults her. Then someone stands up for her. Then someone offers a backhanded compliment. This current debate is an excellent example. My take is that I don't know too many trans(sexual?) or trans(gendered?) people so I can't say if they look bad or good with old age. But I think that if a girl looks great when she's young, eats properly, does not smoke or drink too much and works out to stay fit, she should age the same way as a girl her age would. At least I hope so! (ladies im still looking for the ONE :)

[SUPPLY42]

You go Nicole!! And yes,Mandy, I would date you in a minute if afforded the opportunity And that goes for Nicole also. To me it is not the size of what is between the legs, but, it has more to do with the personality.. And to house, there is nothing wrong with chibalry. I do open the door for my date and I do still give my dates flowers. But, I guess that is beyond your type of mentality.

[Oli]

Between the two of us, you're the one trying hard to build up an image and attempting to mask false flattery with chivalry. That alone says all I need to know. I'd give you my biography but the thing is...i just don't care what a guy like you thinks so what's the point?

Hey Sisyphus, quit while your behind. Try and save what little face you have left.

[Night Rider]

controversial lol..i haven't bothered reading any posts, but im assuming there's war going on with a question like that. I don't think ts will age that much older (if any) than gg, if they look after themselves with the correct diet and exercise.

It seems extremely shallow that u wouldn't have a relationship with a ts for that reason. I myself am not bad looking but i would rather have someone that i had things in common with, than a trophy wife that boils my head.

[SUPPLY42]

Thanks Oli

[TsVanessa69]

I think your post is pretty ignorant not because the question is itself inappropriate or rude (though it is), and not because you come off as arrogant and superficial (though you do), but rather because I think the basic premise is false.

I agree with Nicole and Vanessa that most Tgirls are capable of ageing more gracefully than Ggirls. I have dated several Tgirls in their 30's and I have been with a few Tgirls in their 40's. All of them were far more 'hardbodied' and 'better kept' than similarly aged ggirls I have been with. There are a lot of unfortunate reasons that there are not a lot of older tgirls who are beautiful --- a higher incidence of drug abuse, suicide, death from disease, etc. -- and I imagine that these problems are even more common among the more 'beautiful' tgirls who might live a wild lifestyle in their youth. Also, as you note, advances in cosmetic surgery, hormone treatments, etc., have recently made it possible for the girls we love to become even more beautiful and more feminine ---- this generation of girls is still young and I think we are all going to be lucky to see the girls we love age and get more beautiful with age ....
You hit the nail on the head. See we are the best of both worlds. My doctor already explained that ts would take on the male genes and wrinkle slower and as you stated, stay "hardbodied" much longer than a female. I work with a few girls in their mid 50's and they perform on a weekly basis, shit Miss Sherri Payne of the Baton Show Loungs is over 55 and can dance and high kick and do the splits, I can't even do that. Age has nothing to do with looks. Olivia Love is a prime example, she is mature and still breahtaking.

hmm, that is true about less wrinkles and the hard body (bc the muscles will stay on longer so the person will be more fit). i agree with that. and yeah, that girl olivia love does still look great so that's also true. ok that answers it.See bitch, I was right. :roll:

[foolish99]

btw House, everyone knows that tgirls are much older than the ages that they announce --- and that they can stay young forever by drinking a secret mixture of the tears of trannychasers who have been feeding on the semen of ladyboys born under the light of a full moon (but I imagine you know that). Like vampires, tgirls are immortal ....

So, for instance, Vanessa was born in Puerto Rico, but only 30 years after Columbus first visited the New World. And Nicole Dupree, well, Henry VIII did in fact bear offspring. And Allanah's Cleopatra costume? Well, she last wore it when she ruled the Nile. And Vicki Richter was consort to Atilla the Hun. Tsntx was there at the Alamo. And so on and so on ....

[cal_tsg]

Wow, i didn't realise what i was doing when i brought the mature TS topic back to peoples attention. I'm not really an expert, but i think mature TS are as good lookig as mature real GG's and look how much mature porn is out there and the dedicated followers it has

I think T-girls out there will look as good as anyone else no matter what age!

[rvince]

One of my friend is 52yo TS, and 50% of the 40yo GGs would kill to have the same face/body. (she's a professional dancer)

[tslvr]

Way to go after this knucklehead, Vanessa. All people age at a certain rate, that can't be stopped. But, the way many of the tgirls take care of themselves, I'm sure they will age much more gracefully.
And, Vanessa, as I've asked before, I sure hope you will consider going out for pizza and a movie with me when I visit Chicago. Just a regular date, no strings attached...I'd love to walk down the street with you by my side.

[tonkatoy]

I wonder if ts women face more health risks as they age from being on hormones for a long time. I know that it can be hard on the liver or kidneys, and if they stop working well then that could be rough. Are post ops still at risk for prostate cancer? I don't mean to be ignorant, I just don't know.

[echimandu]

To all the ladie out there, you should just ignore the creep. He is probably just a litle old man with nothing to do but make excuses for his dull and sorry life. Has nothing better to do with hmself but sit at his keyboard and trie to make excuses for the lack of his own verility by questioning others about theirs. By the way house, I worked my butt of to get to where I am today, self supporting, own a nice home, travel quite a bit and never use a tread mill. I run an average 10-15 miles a week (and that's a bad week) and probably date (not pay) more in a week then you pay for it in a year. Get a life.

Between the two of us, you're the one trying hard to build up an image and attempting to mask false flattery with chivalry. That alone says all I need to know. I'd give you my biography but the thing is...i just don't care what a guy like you thinks so what's the point?It happens quite often here. This board is filled with many chasers in case you haven't noticed. They throw all objectivity out of the window and view everything said about a trannie as an attack, if its not directly in praise of the trannie. Just look at the responses of the trannie chasers. He first defends the trannies honor(no matter how right or wrong she is) then at the end its always 'hey, if you're ever in my city, I'd love to do you'. FUCKING HILARIOUS. And couple that with the fact that most trannies are hyper sensitive when you discuss their issues, sadly very few will actually see what you're really trying to say. They wiil only see what they want. Which is I'm being attacked or insulted. I really think your post was about more than how will they look in 20 yrs., which coming from some trannies here, it doesn't surprise me that thats all they saw. It was also about lifestyle, earning a living in the real world, getting some sort of education that can make them viable in a 9 to 5 setting cause porn and escorting are tough to do at 50. I think part of your question included stuff like that as well. They just didn't see it as usual. Par for the course when dealing with defensive minded people. I do think ts mandy understood some of what you were trying to say though.

[Sacha]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

You're Bang on the Money there, Tara ...

Firstly, I agree 100% re what you say about April Ashley:

http://www.briannaaustin.com/photogalleries/divas/aprilashley/april.html

she looks amazing and you know that with bone structure like that ... well, there's no question that she 'ages well' ... and she really does look of the genre of Sophia Loren, doesn't she??

Then, there's Amanda Lear,

http://www.briannaaustin.com/photogalleries/divas/AmandaLear/amanda.html

It's easy enough to see that there are plenty of valid photos of her looking alluringly sexy in her mid to late 40s ... and beyond. In fact, I consider her to look in many cases very much indeed the 'Alpha Female' over her many GG 'peers' of a similar age!!

And Finally, to really smash that nail into the coffin (i.e. the one that encases the corpse of a lie that TGs age faster than GGs ...) :
Theres's Ex-'Bond Girl' and model Caroline Cossey:

http://www.briannaaustin.com/photogalleries/divas/divas.html (her photos are almost at bottom of page)

I could not find recent photos of her but I remember when she was on the news (due to the infamous 'outing' incident) in the UK back in 1990/1 when I think she was around 37 to 38-ish years of age ... and I will never forget how sexy, beautiful and femininely attractive she looked ... I clearly remember many people remarking about the lack of GG girls that could compete in facial or physique appearance with her ...

[TsVanessa69]

Way to go after this knucklehead, Vanessa. All people age at a certain rate, that can't be stopped. But, the way many of the tgirls take care of themselves, I'm sure they will age much more gracefully.
And, Vanessa, as I've asked before, I sure hope you will consider going out for pizza and a movie with me when I visit Chicago. Just a regular date, no strings attached...I'd love to walk down the street with you by my side. I love pizza!!!!!!

[iloveshemales77]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

She's sooo right.You can tell when when someone has (soul) class. She has it in spades!

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Well unless this guy has found the fountain of youth- I would like to see what he would look like @ 50, 60, 70.

Most men don't do well with aging either.

I know a few ts women in their 60's and they- like women- can either look great for their age-or their age- or not so great.

It's all relative.

Plus that's what plastic surgery is for. Nowadays, you can look younger than ever longer.

[justatransgirl]

Wow what a great thread.

Well, first of all most of us WON'T be older... because about 50% of us will kill ourselves or die of AID's.

I personally know a number of older trans women, pre and post op in their 60's and 70's. Some are in LTR's with others their age - believe it or not, not all older men want to have sex with children.

Other's will live and die alone, as do many older women, and older men.

Me, I have a 23 year old GF so I can't get old... eat your heart out!

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

[TsVanessa69]

Well, first of all most of us WON'T be older... because about 50% of us will kill ourselves or die of AID's.


Now where did that come from? With all the older girls I know, nobody has killed themselves or died of AIDS. The trans population in Chicago is huge and tons of girls are well over 40, and they still kick ass!!!

[tonkatoy]

I thought the remark was tongue in cheek. Did she giggle? You can say whatever you want as long as you giggle afterwards.

[SXFX]

We all age. We are born we grow older and one day we die. If we are lucky we will have made some great friends along the way and had a bit of fun. If we are really lucky we get to find some one to grow old with and watch the sun set into the ocean.
As a vain individual, i don't date girls who are bigger than size 8, this is very hard for me to understand but as I get older, i'm 30 now, i kind of get it a little more and more every day. But that's not so say I'm ready and willing to accept it! I mean if i could stay 30yo for 60 years and then suddently plop dead sure I would take it and I'm sure 100% of the women, GG or TG would also take it to.
But what are you going to do it's life!
As the french say, se la vi!

[TsVanessa69]

I thought the remark was tongue in cheek. Did she giggle? You can say whatever you want as long as you giggle afterwards.Now I'm confused. She's see it and explain. maybe I read wrong.

[Rod la Rod]

As a vain individual, i don't date girls who are bigger than size 8,
As the french say, se la vi!

As the french say, se la vi? WTF? it's "c'est la vie" .

Size 8? What do you share their clothes?

[liisawinkler]

It seems extremely shallow that u wouldn't have a relationship with a ts for that reason. I myself am not bad looking but i would rather have someone that i had things in common with, than a trophy wife that boils my head.

clap clap!!!

best answer in my humble opinion....in the first place character and personality last a lifetime so why place beauty above these two in your search for a lifetime partner...

[dc_guy_75]

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

Tara will be looking good until 50 and beyond... its obvious.

We all get older and our tastes change as we age, after all, its all temporary anyways.

I can only hope to pass the time (life), with someone who you love (and loves you back). Life is way too short for anything less////

[SXFX]

As a vain individual, i don't date girls who are bigger than size 8,
As the french say, se la vi!

As the french say, se la vi? WTF? it's "c'est la vie" .

Size 8? What do you share their clothes?
sorry mate it's been a two martini evening.
Size 8 american, apparently by some account's that's small. but for me that's a medium. Size 8 or less for me. Not a big fan of "thick" girls.
Atheletic is my gig

[whatsupwithat]

Wow what a great thread.

Well, first of all most of us WON'T be older... because about 50% of us will kill ourselves or die of AID's.

I personally know a number of older trans women, pre and post op in their 60's and 70's. Some are in LTR's with others their age - believe it or not, not all older men want to have sex with children.

Other's will live and die alone, as do many older women, and older men.

Me, I have a 23 year old GF so I can't get old... eat your heart out!

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

keeping it real. thank you.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol this message board is so dramatic! I think that's what makes it so fascinating. Every single time I visit this website, there's some sort of controversy. Someone questions someones mental health. Someone talks about coming back after a long hiatus and how they have changed in that time off. Then someone insults her. Then someone stands up for her. Then someone offers a backhanded compliment. This current debate is an excellent example.

one of the best replies ever written that I've took the time to read, Karma to you my friend for writing it.................

I hang out with an older Caucasian TS that I've known for about 7 years now, she's close to hitting the ½ century mark and you'd hardly ever notice, she exercises daily, is always on the go, and eats right. Regardless of those 3 factors visually she is always going to be stunning, in her late 40's she has great looks and can pull dudes ½ her age at will, as I'm sure many other women her age could if they wished to.

House i think you asked a question that many other folks would love to hear an answer to, and I applaud you for writing it before I did because you are in the ring not me (hehe). I just want to give you a word of advice. Word your threads carefully on HA. Unless you like being attacked; write something, go to the kitchen, grab something cold to drink (preferably alcoholic if your writing on this board) and then come back and proof read.....................

For the record some of us like older women, figured I'd throw that out there.

[whatsupwithat]

btw, if i fall in love with someone, i'm not going to fall out of love with them whether they age gracefully or not.

man, the way some people look at love and relationships around here (and in a large majority of the trans community) is truly fucked up.

[whatsupwithat]

I hang out with an older Caucasian TS that I've known for about 7 years now, she's close to hitting the ½ century mark and you'd hardly ever notice, she exercises daily, is always on the go, and eats right. Regardless of those 3 factors visually she is always going to be stunning, in her late 40's she has great looks and can pull dudes ½ her age at will, as I'm sure many other women her age could if they wished to.

House i think you asked a question that many other folks would love to hear an answer to, and I applaud you for writing it before I did because you are in the ring not me (hehe). I just want to give you a word of advice. Word your threads carefully on HA. Unless you like being attacked; write something, go to the kitchen, grab something cold to drink (preferably alcoholic if your writing on this board) and then come back and proof read.....................



and what he said.

ps - where the hell were you last night?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

ps - where the hell were you last night?

I'd say it, but however I'd word it someone would get offended, so I'll just say I was 'preoccupied'.

[whatsupwithat]

ps - where the hell were you last night?

I'd say it, but however I'd word it someone would get offended, so I'll just say I was 'preoccupied'.


nice. i love being preoccupied.

[Tophat Gentleman]

This is my first attempt at posting, hope I get it right. If you were lucky enough to meet a special girl and she loved you enough to stay with you in a relationship, I don't believe that the changes over time, good or bad, would have any effect on the relationship. If all your into is the looks, you are a very shallow person. I don't believe tht you will ever find a girl that would ever want to live their life with someone as shallow as you are.

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/tea14x3.jpg

:popcorn

[Vicki Richter]

I am 50 and I look OK.

But for real, the girls who look kinda bad when they are older, probably started out older when hormones are almost entirely ineffective. Surgery can only do so much. I think most girls who get their surgery when they are relatively young (20's) and start hormones when they are relatively young (20's) have a much better opportunity to age like GG's.

Just the same, I can't understand why people get married at all. Just hire escorts for 20 years and you will save yourself a ton of money over 1-2 divorces. Then, when you are 50-60, you can have 20 year old's worshipping your cock. I think when I am 65, I will go hire the best looking GG's to lick my ass just to degrade them.

Anyway, this is one reason why I tell all the girls to go get education and careers outside of the sex industry if possible.

[SarahG]

Planning for the future is something that everyone has to deal with, I don't care what a person's field is, if they find themself in retirement age without a pension, healthcare or any form of retirement savings- they're gonna be in a world of hurt.



So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of?

Have you considered the fact that alot of the mature trans girls whose pictures you're gonna be seeing online are late transistioners?

If someone transitions when middle aged or older, of course they're going to have more problems with their appearance. That isn't related to aging so much as when and how they had started the process.



I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls.

So why are you judging girls who are transitioning in "this decade" by looking at older girls who transitioned either late OR in the past when modern doctors and procedures were not as good?

There is a huge fallacy with that logic. If you have a tgirl who is 50, either she transitioned late OR she transitioned in the past.



But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do.

The "only so much plastic surgery you can do" observation just goes to show why late transitioning isn't ideal. Someone who starts early is not going to need as much, and what they do need will have a greater chance at giving them what they need, want, or expect. Starting young alone is not always enough, a friend of mine started at 16 and she needed ffs to pass- just bad genetics/luck.



At some point it has to break down.

Not sure what you mean by that. Some plastic surgery procedures like implants don't last forever, there is a lifespan of the implant materials (usually what, 10-20 years?). Fat injections can be absorbed by the body, etc. But not all procedures are like that. I have had some heavy plastic surgery on my ears to correct some disfiguring birth defects. That was more than 15 years ago (and I am not that old) and I've never had any problems with them deteriorating or needing touch up work. In fact even when I point out that I've had the work done, people can't tell that I've had anything done there unless they start looking behind my ears for scars.



What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?

If the girl has her testes intact and is NOT on hrt (or not on enough hrt) then sure, I can buy the argument that her appearance would change over time and appear to "switch back" BUT I don't see how you can make that case for people who have taken care of those factors.

[elvis_p]

For the record some of us like older women, figured I'd throw that out there.

I second that. My date for the TG Vagina Monologues in 2004 is north of 50 (hardly "mature" imo) and she was and is gorgeous. There were quite a few ladies there over 50 (including Jane Fonda :) ) and every one not only looked great, most are very accomplished - doctors, lawyers, judges, ex-fighter pilots (like my date!).

[memyself]

Now: I think the org poster (that you included in your reply) has not much 'love of life' speaking from this 'I' personaly


Planning for the future is something that everyone has to deal with, I don't care what a person's field is, if they find themself in retirement age without a pension, healthcare or any form of retirement savings- they're gonna be in a world of hurt.



So what happens to all the older tgirls? For example, all the current girls who guys are praising and posting pictures of?

Have you considered the fact that alot of the mature trans girls whose pictures you're gonna be seeing online are late transistioners?

If someone transitions when middle aged or older, of course they're going to have more problems with their appearance. That isn't related to aging so much as when and how they had started the process.



I mean this decade is probably the first time the girls have been able to look as good as GG girls.

So why are you judging girls who are transitioning in "this decade" by looking at older girls who transitioned either late OR in the past when modern doctors and procedures were not as good?

There is a huge fallacy with that logic. If you have a tgirl who is 50, either she transitioned late OR she transitioned in the past.



But I don't think theyll be able to keep up with regular girls in the looks department as they age because theres only so much plastic surgery you can do.

The "only so much plastic surgery you can do" observation just goes to show why late transitioning isn't ideal. Someone who starts early is not going to need as much, and what they do need will have a greater chance at giving them what they need, want, or expect. Starting young alone is not always enough, a friend of mine started at 16 and she needed ffs to pass- just bad genetics/luck.



At some point it has to break down.

Not sure what you mean by that. Some plastic surgery procedures like implants don't last forever, there is a lifespan of the implant materials (usually what, 10-20 years?). Fat injections can be absorbed by the body, etc. But not all procedures are like that. I have had some heavy plastic surgery on my ears to correct some disfiguring birth defects. That was more than 15 years ago (and I am not that old) and I've never had any problems with them deteriorating or needing touch up work. In fact even when I point out that I've had the work done, people can't tell that I've had anything done there unless they start looking behind my ears for scars.



What if i really like her and year by year i see her turning into something im really not attracted to. What do you think?

If the girl has her testes intact and is NOT on hrt (or not on enough hrt) then sure, I can buy the argument that her appearance would change over time and appear to "switch back" BUT I don't see how you can make that case for people who have taken care of those factors.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

the red leather seat is a bit much considering her ass is the gas tank.......................

[memyself]

the red leather seat is a bit much considering her ass is the gas tank.......................
Yea, but what a stroke....◄◄ :-P

[kirk]

experience, maturity, sensuality all in one... a very erotic mix and i for one are attracted to the mature girls.

[BrendaQG]

Ok. I have basically read the whole thread and I see the confusion. TSNTX pointed it out to House earlier, and I will do it again. When discussing how mature t-girls will look one has to distinguish between a late starter and an early starter. I know that's not politically correct to say but it is true.

Most every tgirl has some dream. Some are more of pipe dreams than others. Doing what we dream of is what our future plans include. I dream of someday being a professor at a college or university. I dream of being a great scientist. I dream of telling the world about science and educating the public. I have done my very best to make that happen. If that fails I can always go back in to sales and financial services...even as I hate those jobs. They pay well.

As for letting yourself go as you age, and Tgirls seeming to age slower. I can second everything Vanessa has said. I have noticed in my own life many people can't believe that I am as old as I am. I have also met some of the same people Vanessa has. What she says is totally true. Some girls perform until the day they die, and look just as good as a younger girl doing it.

[house]

Way to go after this knucklehead, Vanessa. All people age at a certain rate, that can't be stopped. But, the way many of the tgirls take care of themselves, I'm sure they will age much more gracefully.
And, Vanessa, as I've asked before, I sure hope you will consider going out for pizza and a movie with me when I visit Chicago. Just a regular date, no strings attached...I'd love to walk down the street with you by my side.

a "good job" compliment coming from a douchebag like this ought to be a slap in the face.

[house]

This is my first attempt at posting, hope I get it right. If you were lucky enough to meet a special girl and she loved you enough to stay with you in a relationship, I don't believe that the changes over time, good or bad, would have any effect on the relationship. If all your into is the looks, you are a very shallow person. I don't believe tht you will ever find a girl that would ever want to live their life with someone as shallow as you are.

But you know what? Getting regular action from all types is alot more important to me at this stage. So thanks "gentleman" but i'll pass on the lifelong relationship for now. Good to hear you offer your 2 cents. By the way, you forgot to use proper protocol on this board. As is standard for douchebags standing up for all of tgirl nation without regard to the original question, you forgot to end your post with a "Hey (insert name here), I think you're really sexy, we should go out some time". Awwww, too late!

[house]

*CLAP CLAP CLAP*
What a debate! A soap opera! I had my question answered over a lengthy thread of 9 pages and there seems to be no end in sight (though it could have been answered completely by the single posts from TSNTX, Mandy, Tara or Vicki).

Excepting a few odd cases like TSVanessa (aggressive as a gangsta) or Nicole (that new tattoo hurts my areol and i have the IQ of an 11 year old), the LADIES for the most part saw the question objectively, or at least as an honest question worded insensitively, which would be a fair characterization. On the other hand, only a handful of the MALES were astute enough to actually READ the original post and contribute an interesting answer or observation (notably theshyguy, echimandu and johnnywalkerblacklabel), which was VERY revealing.

A subclass of male weirdos also reared their heads on this issue. The standard tactic they seem to use (no doubt perfected amongst themselves over whispered conversations in dark theaters while eating buttered popcorn) appears to be just as those above have pointed out. If its ok with you "Supply42" i'll use you as an example since you epitomize the class. Sniffing the scent of controversy in the air, you jump into your swivel chair (Batman! Possible insult against a tgirl detected!). Without regard to the post itself, you quickly insert yourself into the conversation, taking heed to include a mini autobiography for all the folks wondering "JUST WHO IS SUPPLY42 REALLY, AND WILL HE MAKE A GREAT LIFE PARTNER??"

supply42:
"Girls you should ignore this guy house bc he's a jerk and a loser" (true meaning: i am standing up for you as a modern day internet knight, protecting your honor while he is an evil evil dragon)
"I'm a self made man at age 50 who owns a house and travels" (true meaning: i have the financial security of a standard 30 year old).
"I also run 10-15 miles a week" (true meaning: I'm not utterly disgusting, pleease someone give me a chance...im so cold...)
"I date more women in a week than you do in a year" (this could mean mean he has sex with ~ 40 women per week but more likely zero)
"Hey BETTY you looked great in BETTYS HOT FANTASIES 10" (he is now attemping to work his way into the girls good graces)
"If you're ever around, i'd love to take you out to the opera and dinner" (please spend time with me, you might even grow to love me and pity fuck me. i would pay you since i'm a gentleman!)

[joe68odessa]

geez, the guy (house) had a legitimate question. he wasn't poking fun or trashing anyone. why is everyone getting so bent out of shape and jumping all over him??? it wasn't a question that anyone should've taken so personally. sheesh

[MrsKellyPierce]

What a offensive thread, and I can name plenty of transexual girls over the age of 40 that still look damn good! SO STFU!

[mimiplastique]

What a offensive thread, and I can name plenty of transexual girls over the age of 40 that still look damn good! SO STFU!


I DON'T LIKE YOU.
I DON'T WANT SHIT TO DO WITH YOU
NO FIGHTS NO DRAMA
LEAVE MY THREADS ALONE AND KEEP THAT PRETTY NOSE
AWAY FROM MY SHIT

[MrsKellyPierce]

What a offensive thread, and I can name plenty of transexual girls over the age of 40 that still look damn good! SO STFU!


I DON'T LIKE YOU.
I DON'T WANT SHIT TO DO WITH YOU
NO FIGHTS NO DRAMA
LEAVE MY THREADS ALONE AND KEEP THAT PRETTY NOSE
AWAY FROM MY SHIT :lol:

[SarahG]

he wasn't poking fun or trashing anyone. why is everyone getting so bent out of shape and jumping all over him??? it wasn't a question that anyone should've taken so personally. sheesh

It had everything to do with how it was worded.

Basically he said in the OP that all tgirls end up looking like guys by the time their middle aged or older, while failing to take into consideration that- as he said himself in the same post, girls that are transitioning young NOW in this past decade have been able to look like GGs in ways older transistioners and people in the past have been by and large unable to do so (yes, this is a generalization and not an absolute).

Do you see the issue there?

[Trogdor]

What a offensive thread, and I can name plenty of transexual girls over the age of 40 that still look damn good! SO STFU!

Could not have said it any better myself, KS.

Heck, looks at some of the older GG's out there, like Jane Seymor...she's in her 60's and looking fine. 8) So, logically I can easily see many tg's do the same thing. :wink:

[Trogdor]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

Yep many TG's seem to age better than GG's often do, be it by nature or by taking better care of themselves, I have noticed that......though that 'real girl' part confuses me.

You seem like a real girl to me. :D

And I can't believe I did not mention Mrs. Loren in this thread. :shock:

[MrsKellyPierce]

We will beat the crap out of you with our canes thats what we will do!

[Night Rider]

WHAT WILL YOU TGIRLS DO WHEN YOU'RE OLDER?? the same things gg's do:

complain more

wash less

go to the toilet 20 times a day

drink more coffee

and shit themselves occassionally

[MrsKellyPierce]

WHAT WILL YOU TGIRLS DO WHEN YOU'RE OLDER?? the same things gg's do:

complain more

wash less

go to the toilet 20 times a day

drink more coffee

and shit themselves occassionally Men tend to shit themselves first

[Night Rider]

nah men get better with age!

grey hair is classed as dignified and we can call our flab beer bellies!

whereas u women just hit the slippery slope at 50

[MrsKellyPierce]

nah men get better with age!

grey hair is classed as dignified and we can call our flab beer bellies!

whereas u women just hit the slippery slope at 50 pfft I'm gonna be like Dolly..timeless

[crayons]

How about you post your pics so we can see how you look.

you are one to talk. you have the body of a twink and the head of a drag queen look at yourself?
your like Arnold Schwarzenegger in drag and half the size. you are one ghoulish animal. the elephant man got more sympathy than you- and he did it without makeup.

[Night Rider]

priceless!!!!!!!!!!

[badboy69]

wow... what does anyone do when they are with someone and they get older??? unless you got millions packed away to buy some young piece of ass every time you feel your partner is to old looking good luck jerkin off...

[natina]

http://granny-tranny.thumblogger.com/

http://trannygranny.maniacpass.com/?id=cole&pt=r


http://images.imageturtle.com/users/3972/hl/115f4c1e56da9fe63c4383a66e8923a6.jpg

[MissBStar]

they are not all that old. It's just that they have done a shit ton of drugs

[natina]

I think I detect some denial

this will help you


http://h6img.com/p/2/fun-bags.jpg

[Niccolo]

Wel then you should be quiet, because you look like a fool. Take your own advice. And as I mentioned before, since you are so wrapped up on looks, where are YOUR pic?
There is really no need to be so hostile. As the original poster said, it's a reasonable question, which one would expect someone who trades on their looks to have considered. What happens when/if those looks fade with age?

After all, everyone gets older, and everyone has their own concerns and worries about this. In a lot of cases, losing one's looks won't matter a jot. But in some cases, it will.

[russtafa]

They will settle down and get married and be happy

[irongoddess]

I`ll be bodybuilding till my last day on this earth.It`s possible to still look in top shape,even when i`m 70yrs old!

[LibertyHarkness]

i will be smoking my pipe in slippers on beachyhead, swearing at the french most likely

[Jericho]

i will be smoking my pipe in slippers on beachyhead, swearing at the french most likely

I'm thinking you'll have to fight for elbow room! :lol:

[LibertyHarkness]

yeah probably ....the french are not to favoured in pensioners in england

[Niccolo]

I'll just be happy that I've managed to get old. When I think of some of the stunts I've pulled, I'm actually quite pleased just to be here right now.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I've seen quite a few older [women] that look even more passable than some overdone younger [women] alot of guys go nuts for........... go figure

[lisaparadise]

i've seen quite a few older [women] that look even more passable than some overdone younger [women] alot of guys go nuts for........... Go figurego figure? Im maybe the oldest chick in here and as long as there are surguries ill always look hot lol besides being a tugour isnt all that bad i aint in a rockin chair yet lol

[MissBStar]

I'll start to crochet and i'll make spanikopita for the greek church =X

[dderek123]

I'll start to crochet and i'll make spanikopita for the greek church =X
Mmmm spanikopita. Love greek food!

I think TS as they get older their lives won't be that different from GGs. Looks fade as time goes by for everybody. A person who survives on their beauty should have a contingency plan.

[renoned]

I'll start to crochet and i'll make spanikopita for the greek church =X

OOH is that the dish with spinach in phyllo.
Don't wait make it now. Please :praying:

[Mari_Mar]

I can't help but wonder what the OP is going to feel like when he gets old, bald, and used as a sugar daddy by some young t-girl who's taking him for all he's worth...

[LOS4ME]

We only have two choices, get older or die.

I prefer to get older... :)

[dderek123]

I can't help but wonder what the OP is going to feel like when he gets old, bald, and used as a sugar daddy by some young t-girl who's taking him for all he's worth...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_viWbhRtuOio/Sf2-6PoGEuI/AAAAAAAABOo/8Cpal4pjwcY/s400/Irony.jpg

[Mari_Mar]

Right!?!?!?!?

[dderek123]

Right!?!?!?!?

Yeah I agree. You reep what you sew. At that point he would have already made his bed and then he would have to lay in it.

I just think his post was really short-sited. Everyone gets old.

When I'm really old I hope I have someone with me. I'll be too tired to go chasing after the hottest thing. I imagine being very old is so lonely. It would be nice to have a companion or at least someone to play cards with.

[Mari_Mar]

I totally agree Derek. We all get old, and no one is typically happy about it.

[fred41]

Yeah I agree. You reep what you sew. At that point he would have already made his bed and then he would have to lay in it.

I just think his post was really short-sited. Everyone gets old.

When I'm really old I hope I have someone with me. I'll be too tired to go chasing after the hottest thing. I imagine being very old is so lonely. It would be nice to have a companion or at least someone to play cards with.

..."reap what you sow"....damn it Derek, aren't you a teacher??..lol.

[TsVanessa69]

I can't help but wonder what the OP is going to feel like when he gets old, bald, and used as a sugar daddy by some young t-girl who's taking him for all he's worth...
He would never get that lucky.
More like old, broke and alone would be more like it!

[dderek123]

..."reap what you sow"....damn it Derek, aren't you a teacher??..lol.

Fake it until you make it! Right?

LOL!

I almost spit out my coffee when i read this. Cheers for that

[hippifried]

Wow! Somebody really dug deep in the archives to find this one.

Gravity isn't just a good idea, it's the law.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Cliches Я us.


Perceptions of beauty, or more precisely "attractiveness", change over time in each one of us. This reality will slap all y'all whippersnappers upside the head as you age, provided nobody shoots ya first. Don't get me wrong. I still drool over the hot chix. But a level of comfort with my companion at any given time has gained a huge importance. This has nothing to do with gender.

[goldensamba]

Actually, I think a lot of us tgirls will fare better than real girls when we're older. If we are generally thin, we'll probably stay thin, whereas women will tend to get heavier especially if they have a baby.

I think there's a ts named April Ashley who was active in the 1960's who still looks pretty good now, and she's pretty old - like Sophia Loren old (but she looks really good too)

I guess it all depends on the person, any person- I've seen plenty of women who looked good at 20, and after life has sorta taken its toll (living in a trailer, kids, too many trips to Walmart) they look like hell at 35. Same with any guy, though plenty of men look more distinctive when they hit 40.

I think the tgirls who are models will still continue to look pretty good at 50 (and what's to say that some of us - not me! - are already 50!)

-Tara

Only if they don't go nuts with the plastic surgery. Unfortunately Sophia Loren is starting to look freakish from too many surgeries....

[lisaparadise]

Only if they don't go nuts with the plastic surgery. Unfortunately Sophia Loren is starting to look freakish from too many surgeries....oh ya?wait till ya see what your wife will look like at that age then youll see freakish

[bat1]

As they say a dog is man's best friend

more so as you get older....

[bat1]

getting old is a part of life:wiggle:

[luv4Tgirls]

Vanessa I'll be there for ya

[hippifried]

Hey Bat. Damnit, there's not supposed to be any pictures of me on the internets anywhere.

[MissBStar]

OOH is that the dish with spinach in phyllo.
Don't wait make it now. Please :praying:


Mmmm spanikopita. Love greek food!



Yes boys Spinach with Feta in phyllo ;)

[bat1]

Hey Bat. Damnit, there's not supposed to be any pictures of me on the internets anywhere.

Sorry had to post one :)