Question for "straight" guys

[sucka4chix]

Since many times the place to find a cute TS is a gay bar or at least
gay friendly, how are you supposed to handle an advance from gay men,
if you don't swing that way? I was recently in Florida and a girl told me
these guys said "hi". Minutes later, one walks by and says " hi baby".
My reaction is to ignore them and hope they catch the hint. A TS
friend of mine says I should kindly say "I'm flattered, but I'm here for
the girls", or something like that. Anyone else ever encounter this? How'd
you handle it?

[62des]

Well although I would LOVE to meet a really sexy tgirl, its not NEARLY enough to make me go to a gay bar. Although I have absolutely nothing against gays, going to a place like that would make me a little homophobic, plus its a place where guys like guys so there's a 100% more chance of getting hit on and that's not my style. My attitude is, if I meet one hooray for me but I'm not gonna go lookin at a gay bar, there's WAY TOO MANY beautiful GG's women in straight clubs to even think of doing something like that. Women is my goal, wether Tgirl or GG, but I'm not going that far to find a TS.

[Urian]

Where I live you can´t find any beautiful tgirl in gay bars.

I have to say that I have seen a lot of tgirls in non-gay bars and I know the, because third persons.

[mofungo]

In my country, I have to go to gay bars to meet TS girls. When gay guys hit on me, I tell them I am flattered, but I'm not available. I am in control of who I choose to go home with.

To the OP, chill out dude. If a gay guy tries to hit on you, take it as a compliment.

[DJ_Asia]

The only time I went to a straight up gay establishment was at The Abbey in WEHO...went with Anna Alexandre(RIP),Kayla Taylor and Kitty Diaz...fun night!!!

Had several bois walk by and say things like.."Too bad youre straight" without ever speaking to me prior.I asked the girls about this phenomenon and they pretty much agreed that gay bois know a straight boy when they see one...so fret not,relax and enjoy.

[sucka4chix]

Well although I would LOVE to meet a really sexy tgirl, its not NEARLY enough to make me go to a gay bar. Although I have absolutely nothing against gays, going to a place like that would make me a little homophobic, plus its a place where guys like guys so there's a 100% more chance of getting hit on and that's not my style. My attitude is, if I meet one hooray for me but I'm not gonna go lookin at a gay bar, there's WAY TOO MANY beautiful GG's women in straight clubs to even think of doing something like that. Women is my goal, wether Tgirl or GG, but I'm not going that far to find a TS.
Yeah, I feel ya! When I do it I'm always asking myself "what are you doing here?!" But it's sorta like going to the video store and the TS vids are stuck in the gay section. I just do it and hope nobody I know comes in.
This last episode was at a tranny club, though. Kinda caught me off guard.
Just another part of the irony that t-girls are really a subset of the gay community, yet many of their admirers aren't that fond of the gay community.

[Night Rider]

gay bois know a straight boy when they see one...so fret not,relax and enjoy.

I have to disagree bc ive been hit on a couple of times in regular clubs. Just give them the evil eyes but if they approach u then say politely that ur ass is an exit only zone

[sucka4chix]

In my country, I have to go to gay bars to meet TS girls. When gay guys hit on me, I tell them I am flattered, but I'm not available. I am in control of who I choose to go home with.

To the OP, chill out dude. If a gay guy tries to hit on you, take it as a compliment.
Dude, I'm as chilled as it gets. It's no big deal. I just like to get along
with everyone. I hate drama. So if there's a better way to handle things
without coming across like a jerk, I'd like to know.

[DJ_Asia]

gay bois know a straight boy when they see one...so fret not,relax and enjoy.

I have to disagree bc ive been hit on a couple of times in regular clubs. Just give them the evil eyes but if they approach u then say politely that ur ass is an exit only zone

Yeah weve all been hit on by members of the same sex...its gonna happen.However most gay men have their "gaydar" working and can tell and will leave you alone,some can tell and will hit on you anyways hoping that their initial assesment was inaccurate,and others just dont give a shit...will toss out 30 lines and see what they catch.Regardless its not the end of the world and as long as your not getting gang raped in the toilets its no sweat off your balls either way...again relax and meet your girls.

[Night Rider]

It doesn't bother me any more than a gg i didnt fancy hitting on me....only if they cant take a hint

[sucka4chix]

Just give them the evil eyes
LMAO! I'm picturing the Lucy Liu evil eye from Ally McBeal!
How do you make 'em hear that growl?!

[Balcanoid]

@sucka4chix, just get yourself a tshirt like this one.... 8)

[tsmandy]

@sucka4chix, just get yourself a tshirt like this one.... 8)

I definitely think you guys should start wearing this shirt. It is the only way to protect yourselves from the ravages of gay men.

[crayons]

Why do the girls hang out in gay bars may I ask?

[tonkatoy]

I always hate when a gay guy starts buying you drinks, and then you feel like you have to go home with him cause it would be impolite not too, and then in the morning your butt hurts.

[crayons]

Can someone please answer my original question of why these girls are in gay bars if they're looking for straight guys? Thats like going fishing in the desert.

[whatislove]

I always hate when a gay guy starts buying you drinks, and then you feel like you have to go home with him cause it would be impolite not too, and then in the morning your butt hurts.

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[Balcanoid]

I always hate when a gay guy starts buying you drinks, and then you feel like you have to go home with him cause it would be impolite not too, and then in the morning your butt hurts.

You can always say NO!
This could be the good example what a girl feels when "man make a move"...

[Balcanoid]

Can someone please answer my original question of why these girls are in gay bars if they're looking for straight guys? Thats like going fishing in the desert.

Easy...good answer need time....

[Night Rider]

Can someone please answer my original question of why these girls are in gay bars if they're looking for straight guys? Thats like going fishing in the desert.

They dont go looking for gay guys, they go because straight guys hang out there knowing that tgirls are looking to hook up. It saves the hassle of having to explain their situation...

[crayons]

They dont go looking for gay guys, they go because straight guys hang out there knowing that tgirls are looking to hook up. It saves the hassle of having to explain their situation...

I don't understand. Tgirls go to gay clubs because straight guys go there to find tgirls? Why don't tgirls go to straight clubs where one would naturally find straight guys? :?

[Night Rider]

They dont go looking for gay guys, they go because straight guys hang out there knowing that tgirls are looking to hook up. It saves the hassle of having to explain their situation...

I don't understand. Tgirls go to gay clubs because straight guys go there to find tgirls? Why don't tgirls go to straight clubs where one would naturally find straight guys? :?

It doesn't make much sense but it's because if they go to gay bars the straight men obviously suspect or know that they are tgirls. Whereas if they go to just a regular club they might feel rejected if a guy doesnt fancy them just gor the reason that she is a ts. This might not be 100% correct, im just assuming...

[sucka4chix]

Can someone please answer my original question of why these girls are in gay bars if they're looking for straight guys? Thats like going fishing in the desert.
No not quite like that! They're not looking for straight guys, they're looking
for straight guys WHO LIKE T-GIRLS! If a guy is looking for a TS at a straight club, he's basically trying to win at lotto. Sadly, with the absence of
transsexual clubs, which ARE absent in most cities, the place for TSes and fans to meet defaults to gay clubs. Even if it's a tranny club, gay guys are gonna be there, just because.

[tsmandy]

They dont go looking for gay guys, they go because straight guys hang out there knowing that tgirls are looking to hook up. It saves the hassle of having to explain their situation...

I don't understand. Tgirls go to gay clubs because straight guys go there to find tgirls? Why don't tgirls go to straight clubs where one would naturally find straight guys? :?

It doesn't make much sense but it's because if they go to gay bars the straight men obviously suspect or know that they are tgirls. Whereas if they go to just a regular club they might feel rejected if a guy doesnt fancy them just gor the reason that she is a ts. This might not be 100% correct, im just assuming...

Well there's that whole phenomenon of trans-women getting brutally murdered or beaten up for hitting on the wrong guy, so a gay bar is a place where at the least a TS can have a drink and be relatively safe. Plus some trans-women don't give a rats ass whether a man is straight or gay as long as he knows how to please. I wouldn't really know though, because I don't go to gay bars to find straight people, I go to be around other queer people.

[Night Rider]

Yea, it's a fucked up world. But there will be a time when ts woman are respected and valued just as gg's, could be a very long time though unfortunately...

[alpha2117]

Gay guys tend to know who the straight guys are.

If your hanging with t's or looking at them a lot it's pretty easy to tell what you like so the gay guys pick that up.

Even if you do get approached it's pretty easy to just laugh and say I'm straight but thanks for the compliment.

[slinky]

Gay guys tend to know who the straight guys are.


And like that "protects" you? sure, because no gay guys want to be "the one".

[slinky]

Why do the girls hang out in gay bars may I ask?

Because they can't pass. And as was pointed out, there can be ramifications of that, but also ramifications if they do. It's a no-win situation.

But also, are TS girls only allowed to go out places where they are looking for sex partners?

[crayons]

So the gay populous is more welcoming to trans-women where as the straight crowd is more hostile? Is this a correct assessment?

Also, would the guy be considered desperate if he is willing to risk the stigma of being labeled "gay" by his peers for frequenting a gay establishment in search of a trans-woman with something "extra" to insert into his butt?

thanks in advance.

[slinky]

Any straight guy who walks into a gay bar runs the risk of some "stigma". It's not like he walks in there with a sign over his head "only here for TS cock". So how would anyone know why he was there? Mostly likely assumption would be that he was gay, not a tranny chaser.

But there's plenty of straight guys who go to gay bars for many reasons. For example, there's a gay bar on Roosevelt which a couple of the straightest of my friends go to, because it's the only place these B-girls who they like to hang out with can go out around there without getting "busted" one way or another.

[crayons]

I have another question (and sorry for derailing this thread if I am) but when a straight guy approaches a trans-woman and says "hi. I'm actually straight" isn't there some sort of confusion as to exactly why he's at the gay club?

The reason I ask is because I've read from many trans-women here that they want to be treated as any woman would be treated (and rightly so). But if a man is going specifically searching for a trans-woman in a gay bar is he:

firstly: treating the situation differently since he's basically affirming this a different type of woman
and secondly: running that "yeah right!" move where a gay guy tells you they are straight simply so they can have sex.

I guess what am getting at is: this definition of "straight" seems somewhat loose. How does one establish "straightness" when one is involved in semi-homosexual behavior?

Thanks for answering

[Night Rider]

So the gay populous is more welcoming to trans-women where as the straight crowd is more hostile? Is this a correct assessment?

Also, would the guy be considered desperate if he is willing to risk the stigma of being labeled "gay" by his peers for frequenting a gay establishment in search of a trans-woman with something "extra" to insert into his butt?

thanks in advance.

You've a curious mind crayons...

Even Jeeves could tell u that the majority of straight people are hostile towards ts women. But the straight guys that like ts go to gay bars bc they are more likely to be there.

Some people don't give a fuck what their peers think...but then some do, so it just depends who ur friends are. But if they are just going to get it up the ass then im not sure they are straight in the first place!

You're welcome by the way :wink:

[mbf]

well, I am derailing that thread any further....

what is a "straight" club/place anyways????

I am an avid lover of nightlife, and I go to places/clubs that are mixed regarding race and "sexual orientation" (an umbrella term that I just utilized for my purpose....) those places usually seem to be the most interesting.

and second: do you folx just go out to get laid in the first place???

[62des]

well, I am derailing that thread any further....

what is a "straight" club/place anyways????

I am an avid lover of nightlife, and I go to places/clubs that are mixed regarding race and "sexual orientation" (an umbrella term that I just utilized for my purpose....) those places usually seem to be the most interesting.

and second: do you folx just go out to get laid in the first place???

Good question. But I don't think a club is a good place to look for a soulmate so I only go to get laid.

[crayons]

Thanks for answering my questions Night Rider.

mbf: I'd suspect a straight club is one facilitated to entertain members of the opposite sex eg. a majority of the clubs in any major city.

A gay club would therefore be for members of the same sex. I've been to a couple and I wouldn't necessarily say they're for entertainment. They seem mostly to be bars (straight up) for hooking up.

I've been to sex clubs which offered a place for gay, transsexual and straight members of the community, but the straight people were far outnumbered by gay people and bissexual men who often didn't care who they went home with. Although the club was for anyone regardless of sexual orientation: it basically had a gay vibe. Also the trans-women were more often than not crossdressers.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I always hate when a gay guy starts buying you drinks, and then you feel like you have to go home with him cause it would be impolite not too, and then in the morning your butt hurts.


"Tonka"...Where the hell you been, you're still just as crazy as ever!!!

ROTFLMAO :claps :claps :claps

To add: If you jump into a pool(with water in it = Honda), you're gonna get wet! If you can't swim, it sucks to be you! :shrug

[mbf]

mbf: I'd suspect a straight club is one facilitated to entertain members of the opposite sex eg. a majority of the clubs in any major city.

A gay club would therefore be for members of the same sex. I've been to a couple and I wouldn't necessarily say they're for entertainment. They seem mostly to be bars (straight up) for hooking up.

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I still dont get that "concept". I seem to be the odd person here I guess. a "Club" for me is a place that is crowded by sweaty people on a dancefloor, where peeps dance to some DJ, nick pills, drink alcohol and smoke marihuana. in fact, such a palce is rather asexual. neither "straight" nor "gay".

altho, I have to say,in the city I used to live there were "gay"clubs. so, per definition, ANY other thatn the "gay" club would be "straight" then.... :?:

[crayons]

I suppose it depends on which clubs you fashion to be in. I don't go to the type of club you described (crowded sweaty people yuck). I mostly visit clubs where music is playing, people sit around or stand around yacking and occasionally (on another level) dance.

These clubs are mostly for couples or people to meet others and strike find common bonds. They're not particular on whether you should be straight or not to attend and participate but you'll be hard pressed in find a gay couple- though I've seen a few lipstick lesbians ;)

[62des]

Dumb question warning: Are lesbian clubs as rare as TS clubs, or do they not exist? If so, wouldn't that give guys like a 70% chance of getting a 3some going with two chicks?

[slinky]

more like 0%

[hwbs]

i have gone out with this girl and she took me to this gay bar a couple times. i had no problems plus not giving a shit always helps. even though there were other "girls" there , i never went back on my own.i also went once with my gf an friend to esquilita to see a drag show..no big deal. just a couple guys tried to buy me drinks but i just declined. if u are unsure of who u are i can see how it could be a problem.

[hwbs]

Dumb question warning: Are lesbian clubs as rare as TS clubs, or do they not exist? If so, wouldn't that give guys like a 70% chance of getting a 3some going with two chicks?


there was a lesbian party where the sat party used to be on sat nights. these girls all looked like gang bangers. i would go with my gf and they would always hit on her and try to make me comfortable when we would leave. so the answer to your question is that you are more likely to get into a brawl with a chick that looks like a dude than a 3some :twisted:

[tsmandy]

I wouldn't really know though, because I don't go to gay bars to find straight people, I go to be around other queer people.

Have you ever had a yearning to be with a straight guy? Or do you never feel like you're missing anything?

Thanks for asking.

No. I've never had a yearning to be with a straight guy. I've also never had a yearning to be with a gay guy. I also have no yearning to be with straight women, or lesbian women for that matter (though I've had some so-so experiences with lez identified women.). I tend to want to have sex with people who don't feel the need to place boxes on their sexuality.

Whether that makes them bi-sexual, pan-sexual, or just plain old slutty, I don't really care. Straight to me, is a social identification, that is about being "normal". Well, normal is boring, and certainly not going to change the way society approaches sex, and that is actually of great importance to me. Beyond that, I've always felt much more comfortable with people who are openly attracted to people of whatever body type, because I'm somewhere in between, and I don't have to worry about hang-ups around what a woman should want in bed (which are just as real with the queer women I've dated as with straight men)

I have had sex with plenty of men who considered themselves straight, and they paid me. But I've never wanted a husband, or a straight boyfriend or any of that. I'm an independent lady, and I'm a slut, and straight culture as it is now, is not really conducive to either.

xoxo
Mandy

[dc_guy_75]

I've been to many gay (t-friendly) bars, and for me, gay guys know you're not gay (lack of style, being relatively ungroomed etc). Most of the time, they'll talk to you with a friend (often ambiguously referring to oral sex).

If you smile and compliment them and then mention you're here for the "girls", they'll help you out at least 50% of the time...

For sure, you'll see guys kissing in most gay bars. While it doesn't do anything for me, I like the fact they're "allowed" to do it. When I see two guys holding hands on the street, I'm proud that I live in a country (or city, DC) that (while passively) allows it.

For me to US cities that are t-friendly:


SF
NYC
Boston
LA
Miami
DC?

[tsntx]

fuck off faggot, if i wanted ur dick id let you know


thats what i say

[dc_guy_75]

edit - double post

[sucka4chix]

fuck off faggot, if i wanted ur dick id let you know


thats what i say

Hilarious, as usual!

[sucka4chix]

fuck off faggot, if i wanted ur dick id let you know


thats what i say

Hilarious, as usual!

[sucka4chix]

fuck off faggot, if i wanted ur dick id let you know


thats what i say

Hilarious, as usual!

[sucka4chix]

tripple post sorry

Yep, sorry. Fuckin' Iphone!
(actually maybe not phone this time. Kept
getting a "problem sending mail, debug mode
error from server")

[cage801]

if ur not interested just say no. why is this all so hard?

[whatsupwithat]

i say "hi" back and smile. what's the problem?

[tsntx]

y do you have to say anything at all

i get hit on by men and women all the time im not interested in at ALL

all i do is shake my head "no" or show them blinged out ring finger.... *im single* but the ring says "fuck off im taken"

[justatransgirl]

Ok - who's reviving all the ancient threads today?

But since it's here.

Jen, I thought you had a BF? You aren't "gay" are you? GIGGLE :-) :-)

As for straight guys looking to hook up with t-girls and getting hit on by boys in gay bars.

Yes, just be polite. After all YOU are in their space.

Usually as someone else said gay guys will catch the signs and understand, but not always. There's some mighty straight looking gay men. So just politely say you are hoping to meet a t-girl.

Who knows, they may hook you up.

In generaly though unless a T-girl is non-passable, or a pro looking for a hook up, or emplyeed by the bar, you won't find too many t-girls in gay or trans bars.

I know Jessica and I virtually never go to a gay or t-bar unless it's on business.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

[Daponster]

gay people don't really hit on me :(

[StaggerLee]

I used to live with a gay woman, we were very close friends. Every now and then, I would go to a gay bar or some 'gay event' with her...I wish I could say I was okay with guys coming up to me and assuming that I was gay-but I was young and dumb, so I used to wear work boots or old, ratty jeans or something-to not have that 'look'. She still laughs at how obvious it all was, and how guys would even ask to buy me a beer, just to see the expression on my face as I stammered out a reply...

[flabbybody]

it's some kind of gay radar they have. gay guys only hit on each other

[crayons]

Since many times the place to find a cute TS is a gay bar or at least
gay friendly, how are you supposed to handle an advance from gay men,
if you don't swing that way? I was recently in Florida and a girl told me
these guys said "hi". Minutes later, one walks by and says " hi baby".
My reaction is to ignore them and hope they catch the hint. A TS
friend of mine says I should kindly say "I'm flattered, but I'm here for
the girls", or something like that. Anyone else ever encounter this? How'd
you handle it?

Easy: tell the gay guy that if he dressed up like a chick (check the amateur Ts/CD/sissy thread for more info) then you'll fuck him.

[EyeCumInPiece]

Well although I would LOVE to meet a really sexy tgirl, its not NEARLY enough to make me go to a gay bar. Although I have absolutely nothing against gays, going to a place like that would make me a little homophobic, plus its a place where guys like guys so there's a 100% more chance of getting hit on and that's not my style. My attitude is, if I meet one hooray for me but I'm not gonna go lookin at a gay bar, there's WAY TOO MANY beautiful GG's women in straight clubs to even think of doing something like that. Women is my goal, wether Tgirl or GG, but I'm not going that far to find a TS.

I was gonna chime in on this subject but this guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth.