Who is your 2008 Presidential Candidate?

[bulldogtuck]

Who are you planning to vote for as of October?

[TheOne1]

the real question is..who will the top world leaders decide for president??

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Just found out that Cheney & Obama are distant relatives................. not that that means anything for my Republican ass, but still, I'm not sure
lol

[Mac_Hine]

stern/quivers '08

[DJ_Asia]

Do your research and spread the word

Ron Paul is our only hope!

[twowaybro]

R u kidding....lol....NONE OF THE ABOVE !!! The American Electoral System has been totally compromised. Both major parties are corporately owned and controlled as well as the candidates they offer up. America as a constitutional republic is OVER. :cry: America the corporate Empire reigns and its people as well as the world suffers. Vote for whoever u like...it makes no difference. The agenda stays the same and it is out of the People's hands. Wake Up people and look within for comfort and salvation. The is no longer ANY hope in the process. 8) 8)

[Dino Velvet]

People mention that there's never been a woman president and there's never been a black president. Nuts to that noise! There's never been a friggin' Dego President! Go Rudy!!!

[Dino Velvet]

People mention that there's never been a woman president and there's never been a black president. Nuts to that noise! There's never been a friggin' Dego President! Go Rudy!!!

Let's all hope that people are not voting solely based on gender or ethnicity. For many reasons, I don't think Rudy has what it takes to win his party's nomination. Just my 2 cents. The electorate is hungry for a change, Bush's approval rating is at 24%, the war ain't going so well.

American voters will probably choose a Dem. in 2008.

The Democratic Congress has a worse approval rating than Bush. The American people are fed up with both parties but unfortunately we are stuck with them. I voted for Bush over Kerry in 2004 not because I was crazy about Bush but because I definitely didn't want Kerry to be President. Many times I find myself choosing the lesser of two evils.

[Realgirls4me]

R u kidding....lol....NONE OF THE ABOVE !!! The American Electoral System has been totally compromised. Both major parties are corporately owned and controlled as well as the candidates they offer up. America as a constitutional republic is OVER. :cry: America the corporate Empire reigns and its people as well as the world suffers. Vote for whoever u like...it makes no difference. The agenda stays the same and it is out of the People's hands. Wake Up people and look within for comfort and salvation. The is no longer ANY hope in the process. 8) 8)

Excellent post. It's really no wonder so many of this country's citizens have become disillusioned, disenfranchised, and cynical of the overall political process. And as long as the two right wings in power, which are beholden to powerful corporations, throw out a few crumbs to keep the citizens going for one more election cycle, things will not likely change in our lifetimes. The monster is just too big and powerful for one person to overhaul it, and thus the reason this country gets a draft-dodging, warmongering idiot, who can't get through a sentence to save his life.

... By the way, a month is an eternity in politics, so the question isn't even warranted at this point. It's way too early to seriously think about who the next president might be. :)

[Dino Velvet]

It's really no wonder so many of this country's citizens have become disillusioned, disenfranchised, and cynical of the overall political process. And as long as the two right wings in power, which are beholden to powerful corporations, throw out a few crumbs to keep the citizens going for one more election cycle, things will not likely change in our lifetimes.

Do you believe that Republicans and Democrats are both right wing? OK, maybe the Republicans. Hillary is on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays. But what about Kucinich and Edwards?

[Realgirls4me]

It's really no wonder so many of this country's citizens have become disillusioned, disenfranchised, and cynical of the overall political process. And as long as the two right wings in power, which are beholden to powerful corporations, throw out a few crumbs to keep the citizens going for one more election cycle, things will not likely change in our lifetimes.

Do you believe that Republicans and Democrats are both right wing? OK, maybe the Republicans. Hillary is on Tuesdays, Thurdays, and Sundays. But what about Kucinich and Edwards?

Gore Vidal was the one who coined the phrase (paraphrasing here), "We have two wings in our government, and they're both right wing".

Our Democratic party here in this country would be considered moderates, or center-right, in most western industrialized democratic countries, so to answer your question, YES.

... When was the last time you heard a Democrat talk about eradicating homelessness for example?

[Dino Velvet]

It's really no wonder so many of this country's citizens have become disillusioned, disenfranchised, and cynical of the overall political process. And as long as the two right wings in power, which are beholden to powerful corporations, throw out a few crumbs to keep the citizens going for one more election cycle, things will not likely change in our lifetimes.

Do you believe that Republicans and Democrats are both right wing? OK, maybe the Republicans. Hillary is on Tuesdays, Thurdays, and Sundays. But what about Kucinich and Edwards?

Gore Vidal was the one who coined the phrase (paraphrasing here), "We have two wings in our government, and they're both right wing".

Our Democratic party here in this country would be considered moderates, or center-right, in most western industrialized democratic countries, so to answer your question, YES.

... When was the last time you heard a Democrat talk about eradicating homelessness for example?

I've heard them mumble occasionally about it but that's about all. John Edwards has a big house with a few extra rooms.

Question; what would you want done about the homeless and how would you get it done? If people want to help the homeless, they can always donate to charity. The government doesn't need to hijack your paycheck in the form of taxes.

[Realgirls4me]

It's really no wonder so many of this country's citizens have become disillusioned, disenfranchised, and cynical of the overall political process. And as long as the two right wings in power, which are beholden to powerful corporations, throw out a few crumbs to keep the citizens going for one more election cycle, things will not likely change in our lifetimes.

Do you believe that Republicans and Democrats are both right wing? OK, maybe the Republicans. Hillary is on Tuesdays, Thurdays, and Sundays. But what about Kucinich and Edwards?

Gore Vidal was the one who coined the phrase (paraphrasing here), "We have two wings in our government, and they're both right wing".

Our Democratic party here in this country would be considered moderates, or center-right, in most western industrialized democratic countries, so to answer your question, YES.

... When was the last time you heard a Democrat talk about eradicating homelessness for example?

I've heard them mumble occasionally about it but that's about all. John Edwards has a big house with a few extra rooms.

Question; what would you want done about the homeless and how would you get it done? If people want to help the homeless, they can always donate to charity. The government doesn't need to hijack your paycheck in the form of taxes.

What does Edward's home have to do with this?

Homelessness hit this country in one fell swoop when Reagan cut aid to cities in favor of turning it over to the defense budget. Along with our federal debt, that's one of the Gipper's "shining" legacies. I still remember that part of the 80s as it seemed to hit this country overnight and with such a heady force. It went from front page news to non issue in less than a decade.

Are your taxes pooled together with those of other Americans to pay for the roads you use? The firemen and police you hopefully won't need to call upon? Your public libraries, local and federal parks, etc.? We as a society should do all we can to help those in our country who down on their luck, or need institutionalization. Why was that the case before Reagan took office? What horrible paradox is at work when the richest, most powerful country the world has ever known has homeless people walking its streets. You're okay with that contradiction? You're okay with a defense budget that out spends the world's military budget combined, and yet has a crumbling infrastructure, no healthcare for 47 million of your fellow Americans, and has homeless Americans living in streets throughout the country?

Now you answer me a question: Why would you vote for a man who went AWOL during Vietnam over a legitimate war veteran, among many other reasons?

[El Nino]

Ron Paul is different. He is not controlled by any special interest groups or corporate influence.

You can take all the long hard looks at Ron Paul. He's not perfect, but once you take a look at all the other candidates and puke in your mouth a little, he's the only one worth voting for.

Hillary is truly a bad choice. This short little clip EXPOSES the true Hillary Clinton, no conspiracy theory here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

[Dino Velvet]

I see your point but honestly if anyone ran on a platform to end homelessness and said how much it would really cost, you and who else would vote for the guy?

I was more or less joking about Edwards.

[Realgirls4me]

Ron Paul is different. He is not controlled by any special interest groups or corporate influence.

You can take all the long hard looks at Ron Paul. He's not perfect, but once you take a look at all the other candidates and puke in your mouth a little, he's the only one worth voting for.

Hillary is truly a bad choice. This short little clip EXPOSES the true Hillary Clinton, no conspiracy theory here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

Do you seriously believe that Ron Paul, or anyone for that matter, could change our solidly entrenched system of powerful special interest money and corporate power and machinations?

Yes, Hillary is a bad choice, but she's levels above any of the Republican candidates -- levels!

[El Nino]

Wrong!!!! She wants additional warfare against Iran. This ultimately means WWIII and this is bad. Ron Paul wants out. Spread the message and do something about it. Unless of course you like war?

Seriously, watch the video this time. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

[Realgirls4me]

Wrong!!!! She wants additional warfare against Iran. This ultimately means WWIII and this is bad. Ron Paul wants out. Spread the message and do something about it. Unless of course you like war?

Seriously, watch the video this time. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

I said that Hillary would be a bad choice -- what more do you want? She's way too establishment and centrist for me. ... Ron Paul has a snowball's chance in hell to win anything, much less the presidency. I do however like his straightforwardness on the war, and the fact that he is really throwing the Republicans' dialogue askew in their debates. It's a great counter to Giuliani's 9/11 Tourettes syndrome.

I was against both Gulf Wars, so don't tell me about wanting to get out. We should have never been in.

[Dino Velvet]

Wrong!!!! She wants additional warfare against Iran.

I don't think anyone wants war with Iran but anyone convinced that Hillary is some kind of pacifist is being sold a bill of goods. She's kind of been playing both sides of the fence depending on who her audience is. We as Americans don't have a lot of good choices but we still have to make one unless you choose to stay at home.

[DJ_Asia]

Ron Paul is different. He is not controlled by any special interest groups or corporate influence.

You can take all the long hard looks at Ron Paul. He's not perfect, but once you take a look at all the other candidates and puke in your mouth a little, he's the only one worth voting for.

Hillary is truly a bad choice. This short little clip EXPOSES the true Hillary Clinton, no conspiracy theory here.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019

Do you seriously believe that Ron Paul, or anyone for that matter, could change our solidly entrenched system of powerful special interest money and corporate power and machinations?

Yes, Hillary is a bad choice, but she's levels above any of the Republican candidates -- levels!

Ron Paul is the best hope the states have.He has publicly stated several times he wants to abolish the Federal Reserve,you know the guys who are PRIVATELY owned and just keep printing money every time Bush asks for it and thus driving the economy into a complete mess.

Again Paul may not be Superman but at least he isnt in denial as to the real issues and ways to fix them,all the while upholding the Constitution of the U.S.

[Dino Velvet]

It's a great counter to Giuliani's 9/11 Tourettes syndrome.

I'm with you on that. I might have put a check next to Rudy's name but the fact that he continues to remind me over and over again that he's the "9/11 Guy" gets tiresome. You could make a drinking game watching his speeches and take a shot every time he makes a 9/11 reference. By Election Day, you'd need a liver transplant.

[El Nino]

Think positively and have a little faith. You're exhibiting classic defeatist behavior. Ron Paul certainly has grown by leaps and bounds and is starting to surprise everybody. Don't believe those polls you see CNNBBCBS etc... They're bullcrap.

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

www.ronpaul2008.com

[El Nino]

They don't call Giuliani "Ghouliani" for nothing...




http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/10/07/2007-10-07_no_matter_what_the_question_is_rudy_says.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/15/new-film-exposes-how-rudy_n_68426.html


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/_democratic_group_accuses_rudy_of_moneylaundering_ around_california_initiative.php

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/10/08/alg_rudy.jpg

[Realgirls4me]

It's a great counter to Giuliani's 9/11 Tourettes syndrome.

I'm with you on that. I might have put a check next to Rudy's name but the fact that he continues to remind me over and over again that he's the "9/11 Guy" gets tiresome. You could make a drinking game watching his speeches and take a shot every time he makes a 9/11 reference. By Election Day, you'd need a liver transplant.

LOL!

... What I really still don't understand is what was it that Giuliani did during 9/11 that any other politician, regardless of their political stripe, would not have done? What did this exploiter of what happened on 9/11 actually do that was so superhuman and unique? To me, it seems he was just a person who happened to be at the right place at the wrong time.

[Dino Velvet]

Think positively and have a little faith. You're exhibiting classic defeatist behavior. Ron Paul certainly has grown by leaps and bounds and is starting to surprise everybody. Don't believe those polls you see CNNBBCBS etc... They're bullcrap.

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

www.ronpaul2008.com

Even though I wouldn't vote for guys like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, I respect them for keeping their integrity.

[El Nino]

Dino... buying into the fear mongering propaganda huh? Don't let them brainwash you. Remember that old saying... There's Nothing to fear but fear itself? Oh yeah, that guy was "assassinated"

Anyway, all the troops support Ron Paul... http://incontiguousbrick.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/military-supports-ron-paul/

[Dino Velvet]

Dino... buying into the fear mongering propaganda huh? Don't let them brainwash you. Remember that old saying... There's Nothing to fear but fear itself? Oh yeah, that guy was "assassinated"

Anyway, all the troops support Ron Paul... http://incontiguousbrick.wordpress.com/2007/10/17/military-supports-ron-paul/

I deleted the last part of my post because it wasn't very well thought out. I still ain't voting for Ron Paul though.

[Realgirls4me]

Hey, Dino, what is the significance of the picture of the movie Hardcore in your signature area?


Just wondering.

[El Nino]

Why? He's brilliant and honest

By the Way: The CNBC televised dabate last week, Ron Paul won by a landslide of 86% (public poll), and CNBC's website took down the poll within 2 hours. They're running scared now. Be smart

[Dino Velvet]

Hey, Dino, what is the significance of the picture of the movie Hardcore in your signature area?


Just wondering.

I just love that movie. George C. Scott was the best overactor I've ever seen. I just love the way he growls his lines. When he gets frustrated and angry, it looks like his head is going to explode. If you haven't seen Hardcore, you absolutely must. He was also great in Exorcist 3 and, of course, Patton.

My favorite part of Hardcore was when he was looking for his daughter who ran away to do porno. He went undercover pretending to be a producer for adult films. He wore a bad wig, a Poncho Villa mustache, and a hideous Hawaiian shirt and tried to act hip and speak like the young people. Fucking classic!

I am a fan of good bad acting especially with cheesy dialogue. I also like Charles Bronson and even Chuck Norris. I absolutely hate David Caruso though as he is in the bad bad acting category.

[El Nino]

So what, thats not a good enough reason to not support a message if you believe in it. I am not trying to be disrespectful to anybody but I have found that it is wise and noble to stand up for what you believe, even against the most terrifying odds. Ron Pauls message of freedom will not die even if he does not get elected. His supportersand movement will shine in the face of "HillRudy" and it will be an embarassment to them, respectively.

[Dino Velvet]

Are we done here, fellas? I'm getting ready to rub one out and go to sleep.

[mbf]

why isnt that in the politics and religion section int he first place?

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Wrong section...Right topic!!! Moderators, please do your thing! I'm lookin' for chicks with dicks here, not a cunt and an asshole. :shrug

[phxguy]

Barack Obama has my vote. I'll vote for Hillary if she's nominated, but I feel she carries too much baggage.

[Realgirls4me]

Wrong section...Right topic!!! Moderators, please do your thing! I'm lookin' for chicks with dicks here, not a cunt and an asshole. :shrug

Why not just ignore the thread? And which one is the cunt, Romney or Guiliani?

[Realgirls4me]

By the way, think about this, people, the next time you get into it with a rightwinger ... they really can't help it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/suneditorials/la-ed-brains12sep12,1,3505990.story?coll=la-sunopinion-editorials


:)

[Ecstatic]

bulldogtuck, you asked two quite different questions:

1) Who is your 2008 Presidential Candidate?

2) Who are you planning to vote for as of October?

To answer the first, Dennis Kucinich (who has less of a chance than Ron Paul), but to answer your second, Hillary. I'm more closely aligned with Dennis than any other candidate on more issues, so in that sense he's "my candidate," but my vote will go to Hillary as at this pass I think she's the Dem with the best chance of getting elected, and she's far preferrable to me than any of the Republicans....

...except maybe Ron Paul, but he's a mixed bag. I love his stance on the war, and that's huge, but his stances on abortion and several other issues are repugnant. However, I will give him credit for not being anyone's puppet and for having great personal integrity. Only Dennis rivals him in that regard.

As to voting for the candidate you truly believe in, I did that in my first Presidential election: I voted for Shirley Chisholm, who was a black woman of great integrity and whose policy choices matched mine. We ended up with Tricky Dick that year (1972).

In a showdown between Hillary and Rudi or Mitt or any other Rep (except Paul), I'm solidly for Hillary.

[Dino Velvet]

For all the Hillary peeps, assuming she gets the Dem nomination, who do you think she would take on as a running mate? Wesley Clark, maybe?

[saifan]

Sadly I haven't seen anyone remotely interesting yet. Looks like I'll most likey go independent again.

[Quinn]

I'll take Rudy Giuliani, even if he isn't an Independent. The one candidate I don't want is Hillary. I'll take any of the current candidates over her.

-Quinn

[Felicia Katt]

Do your research and spread the word

Ron Paul is our only hope!

did the research before

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=271178&highlight=ron+paul#271178

but it bears repeating

Ron Paul may be a straight talker on a lot of issues, but he is "straight" right winger on a lot of social ones. He is pro-life and introduced legislation that would prohibit the Supreme Court from ruling on issues relating to abortion, birth control, the definition of marriage and homosexuality and states that the court's precedent in these areas would no longer be binding.

He is opposed to euthanasia.

He is opposed to gay rights. He is hiding his anti-gay record by claiming he voted agaonst the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004. But he has expressed support for the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and expressed his support for the Marriage Protection Act as an alternative to the FMA. He voted for banning gay adoptions in DC. He thinks the Supreme Court was wrong to tell Texas they couldn't criminalize private consensual sex. He thinks its ok for organizations, like the Boy Scouts, to discmininate against homosexuals and still use State resources.

He is also opposed to Federal human embryonic stem cell research

He supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. He is in favor of public displays on State property of the 10 Commandments.

He might be the best Republican candidate. But thats like saying he is the tallest midget, really.

The word to spread.... NO.

FK

[phxguy]

Unlike Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama accepts no money from PACs, lobbyists or special interests. Plus Obama was against the Iraq War from the start while Hillary Clinton voted for it in the Senate.

Obama has my vote in the Arizona primary. If Clinton is nominated, I'll hold my nose and vote for her.

[Ecstatic]

Thanks for raising the specifics about Ron Paul, Felicia. Despite his positive stances (opposition to the war being the top item), his social conservatism is just too much.

You might say it's the easy dodge, but I simply find Obama too green for the job. I've thought for the past 3 or 4 years that he could be a great President someday...but that day is still a decade away. He's as young as JFK was in 1960, and nowhere near as well-prepared for the job.

40+ years ago, Paul Simon put it very well:

"Going to the candidates' debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
when you've got to choose
Anyway you look at it you lose." (Mrs. Robinson)

and Mick Jagger:

"Let's think of the wavering millions
Who need leaders but get gamblers instead
Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter
His empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows
And a parade of the gray suited grafters
A choice of cancer or polio" (Salt of the Earth)

Maybe Jagger hit it best: the Democrats may be crippling, but the Republicans are cancerous.

[El Nino]

Ron Paul wants to re-enstate and give back all of our civil liberties. This is of paramount importance even though some of you may not realize this. No other candidate, (except from Kucinich) will. They have already submitted to thier masters. These rights include, right to private property, protection against search and siezures, rigt to due process and a fair trial (habeus corpus) right to free speech, no warrentless wiretapping, etc etc etc... These have all been stricken by neocon elitists. Hillary is no different. PERIOD. Get your fucking rights back and vote for Ron Paul

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/dyingfreedom.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/lavatory.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/Lbutchery.jpg

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/foxwash_dees.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/paul_dees2.jpg

[Dino Velvet]

These rights include, right to private property

I own income property. If he wants to get rid of rent control so I can jack up my rents to market value, I might consider the guy. Is he against eminent domain for building private businesses like strip malls and other crap?

[avrix]

NO 1 FOR ME

[El Nino]

Well considering the former Soviet Union sign is your avatar... I am no surprised!

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/new_sheeple_dees.jpg


http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/ronpaulrace_dees.jpg

[DJ_Asia]

Do your research and spread the word

Ron Paul is our only hope!

did the research before

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=271178&highlight=ron+paul#271178

but it bears repeating

Ron Paul may be a straight talker on a lot of issues, but he is "straight" right winger on a lot of social ones. He is pro-life and introduced legislation that would prohibit the Supreme Court from ruling on issues relating to abortion, birth control, the definition of marriage and homosexuality and states that the court's precedent in these areas would no longer be binding.

He is opposed to euthanasia.

He is opposed to gay rights. He is hiding his anti-gay record by claiming he voted agaonst the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004. But he has expressed support for the Federal Defense of Marriage Act and expressed his support for the Marriage Protection Act as an alternative to the FMA. He voted for banning gay adoptions in DC. He thinks the Supreme Court was wrong to tell Texas they couldn't criminalize private consensual sex. He thinks its ok for organizations, like the Boy Scouts, to discmininate against homosexuals and still use State resources.

He is also opposed to Federal human embryonic stem cell research

He supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. He is in favor of public displays on State property of the 10 Commandments.

He might be the best Republican candidate. But thats like saying he is the tallest midget, really.

The word to spread.... NO.

FK

With all due respect FK clearly Ron Paul like anyone else isnt flawless.I support stemcell research and gay marriages,yet it seems to me that there are bigger issues on the table that you are ignoring.

The man upholds the constitution of the United States and wants to abolish the Federal Reserve,who have devalued the USD 62% in 6-7 years!!
The other candidates are a watermelon truck full of the same shit we've had for the last 25 years...I mean how bad do things have to get before the country wakes up and says "ENOUGH!!!"

You can criticize Ron Paul all you want but I hate to break it to you but the country is facing MUCH bigger issues then whether or not Joe can marry Fred.

[Balcanoid]

...my 2 cents for the listed people:
Same shit different package ... :crap

[CORVETTEDUDE]

...my 2 cents for the listed people:
Same shit different package ... :crap

Co-Sign!!! :shrug

[El Nino]

Nice post DJ Asia. That's all I am talking about. nicely put.

[Ecstatic]

In order of issues, policy, and integrity, it's Dennis Kucinich first, Ron Paul second, and all the rest trailing far behind. However, neither of these is going to be elected. That, sadly, is the way it is. Hillary (or Obama or Edwards) is a far better choice than any other Republican, despite her failings.

Vote for Ron Paul, feel good, put a bumper sticker on your car saying "Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul."

[Kriss]

Do your research and spread the word

Ron Paul is our only hope!

He is right that Ron Paul is the only rational choice for americans, he opposes the federal reserve but i can't help thinking that he must be controlled as he is in the two party system. Maybe he is emmanuel Goldstein?

The two party system operated in most 'democracies' is always open to abuse. In America like the U.K. , BOTH parties are controlled by the SAME group. This gives the public the ILLUSION of a choice. The only way for real; government that reflects the will of the people is PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION.

my bet is.....


HILARY CLINTON WILL BE YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT.

Head of the Bush CRIME FAMILY, Papa george Bush has been the principal public controller of USA for nearly 50 years. He was in control when reagan went in, back when he was head of CIA, moving the coke into USA through his ZAPATA oil rigs off CUBA. then he himself was pres, then they put clinton in to give the people the perception of a break from republican rule, in reality bill clinton is a mind controlled 'MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE' much like 'W' bush, and john kerry. Hilary is more powerful than bill clinton or 'w' bush but subordinate to senior bush.

The only other possibility is an 'interim' AL GORE government (note all the pro-gore propaganda manipulating public perceptions), set up when the bush administration is dismantled prematurely to avoid conflict with chinese secret societies, as suggested by Benjamin Fulford

http://www.benjaminfulford.com/secretgoverment.html

[Kriss]

Vote for Ron Paul, feel good, put a bumper sticker on your car saying "Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul."

That's fucking funny. Really, that is genius and i'm not being sarcastic

I suspect that Ron paul will be the Reptillian, sorry i mean REPUBLICAN candidate, Hilary will be the reptillian, sorry i mean the DEMOCRAT candidate.

HILARY will win. by hook or by crook, through votes or slight of hand she will be Selected president.

Then Ron paul will be blamed for losing to clinton and the republican party will say "he failed us, The people chose and the lesson is LET'S NEVER SPEAK OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AGAIN."

It's the LONG CON

[Night Rider]

will arnold swarchenegger ever be elegible?? that would be quality

[Kriss]

why isnt that in the politics and religion section int he first place?

I thought that too, especially as some topics get binned there so quick when they are neither politics OR religion but HUMAN interest, sometimes pertinant to TS issues.

The other day somedude (can't remember who) posted a topic about education that was neither politricks OR religion, presumably because he is so used to any topics outside of shoes, cars or comic books being banished to the desolate tundra of the 'politics & religion' section

when i point this out some ever so clever little prick insinuates that I am wrong to comment because i post general interest topics in GENERAL DISCUSSION, topics that i assume said prick thinks are politics. He fails to see that i was not attacking the post or topic , just saying it should be in gen disc so people will actually read it. When in doubt put it in gen disc and let the gods sort it out or just delete it in minutes like my FOX NEWS ARE SHAPESHIFTING LIZARDS THREAD

LIFE is not politics. Race, sexuality, ideas, these are not politics.

THIS THREAD IS POLITICS.

[Night Rider]

COO COO


http://www.ibiblio.org/jimmy/folkden/php/images/The_Coo_Coo.jpg

[Kriss]

Wrong section...Right topic!!! Moderators, please do your thing! I'm lookin' for chicks with dicks here, not a cunt and an asshole. DUMB IT DOWN , FOR FUCKS SAKE DUMB IT DOWN , GOTTA KEEP IT REAL STOOOPID

Why the fuck do you care so much THOUGHT POLICE?

If it's in the wrong section JUST DON'T CLICK ON THE TOPIC!

DO YOU GO TO WATCH A HORROR MOVIE AND THEN COMPLAIN THAT THERE WAS GORE AND SCARY MONSTERS IN IT? (see what i did there? Gore? geddit? eh? AL GORE!? eh? "Monsters", geddit? funny eh?)

DO I click on your poxy 'car' threads and complain that its "just about cars and i dont like cars"?

erm, o.k., maybe i DO THAT, but THE POINT IS ....

it's NOT up to YOU to tell the GODS OF H.A. what to do with what topic. You might want to BEG nicely in a grovelling PM. But who tha fuck are YOU to meke demands of THE GODS OF H.A?

Unless of course you outrank them all in apron-wearing, blood drinking, scaly-ass illuminutty status

[Kriss]

He thinks its ok for organizations, like the Boy Scouts, to discmininate against homosexuals and still use State resources.

How do the boy scouts discriminate against homosexuals?

[NewYorker]

He thinks its ok for organizations, like the Boy Scouts, to discmininate against homosexuals and still use State resources.

How do the boy scouts discriminate against homosexuals?

They don't allow them to be members or troupe leaders.

[Kriss]

He thinks its ok for organizations, like the Boy Scouts, to discmininate against homosexuals and still use State resources.

How do the boy scouts discriminate against homosexuals?

They don't allow them to be members or troupe leaders.

"Troupe" isn't that a gay way of saying troop?

Do you mean that they can't be members as in SCOUTS or they can't hold administrative roles or do you mean they can't be 'scoutmasters'? (i don't know the US names). It would be a bit odd if kids were excluded for being gay. I can see why parent's wouldn't want to send their boys off to camp with gay group leaders. It's just not appropriate. Everyone's got an equal right to live in this world but I don't think Gay men should be teaching or mentoring in an all male enviroment. Same way I wouldnt want a daughter to go to soccer practice with only lesbian coaches there.

Maybe I'm just stirring up a hornet's nest here, and I don't really empathise with the gay psyche ... BUT it seems to me that gays above all prize YOUTH. Gay boys are always shaven, short hair or more often shaved or baldhead, in a word BOYISH. Roman culture cultivated this look and it is perpetuated as the current norm. You don't see adverts telling you NOT to shave your face but gillette certainly spend millions on reminding you to buy thier product.

Nazi germany was GAY. I mean , look at it, it's like an opera about ancient rome designed by seigfried and roy!

IN THEORY it would be no problem and i think MANY gay men would be great with kids and have NO sexual attraction going on or devient agenda BUT past cases of CATHOLIC PRIESTS, CARE WORKERS , TEACHERS , show that people who abuse kids SEEK out positions that facilitate that. High profile cases in the UK have shown us how little vigilance there is in state departments when it comes to communicating, even about KNOWN peados.

I have to tell it how i see it and you can throw all your politically correct newspeak at me but i know what i believe.

Scouts is weird anyway. What is the point of separating boys and girls for thier development? Why can't they progress together ? Why are kids segregated into boys and girls much of thier school life so why need to keep them apart in out of school clubs and activities? Boys and girls are kept apart and told they are different species almost for years before puberty. Our culture needs healing

[El Nino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFjM1ZzZSE8

[trish]

Kriss remarks,
It would be a bit odd if kids were excluded for being gay.

I agree, but as I understand it, the BSA doesn't allow gay kids to become scouts, and the organization expells those who are. It's also the case that BSA will not tolerate an adult, gay scout leader (i.e. an adult volunteer who supervises the local chapter in an official BSA capacity).

[cigarboopy]

Ron Paul will lose the Republican Nom to everybody's favorite Gangster Guiliani, and then he'll declare himself as a third party candidate, effectively weakening the campaign of whoever the Dems put up there (either Hillary or Obama).

My vote is going Ron Paul (if he gets that far). Simply, the best choice from a giant pool of bad choices.



Walk in Balance
CB

[the commander]

Personally, I am a Barack Obama fan. I'm hoping he does well enough in Iowa that the rest of the electorate will come to its senses and abandon Hillary.

However, I might be a little biased...he's one of my secret agents.. :)

The Commander
DIA