Mayweather V Hatton

[cockcraver]

Mayweather V Hatton

What a fight..cant wait!!!

I know mayweather is known as the best pound for pound fighter on the planet but hatton's undefeated too and i think he'll take him!

what do u guys think

[south ov da border]

I'd say mayweather wins just b/c Hatton would probably be cut and bleeding by round 3, stoppage by round 8. If Hatton lands a couple tho, it's anyone's game...

[partlycloudy]

hatton's scrappy, but mayweather is gonna school him.

[ARMANIXXX]

Mayweather V Hatton

What a fight..cant wait!!!

I know mayweather is known as the best pound for pound fighter on the planet but hatton's undefeated too and i think he'll take him!

what do u guys think

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I think that you don't REALLY believe that.........but you'd like to.

lol

[cockcraver]

seriously maywheather is an outstanding boxer but i just think hatton is gonna beat him...maywheather's last couple of fights have been very scrappy and he was lucky against de la hoya....i think he should stick to 'dancing with the stars'

[blckhaze]

mayweather by decision. with jermaine taylor getting his ass handed to him, mayweather will ateleast go from arrogant to confident and not take hatton lightly.

[cockcraver]

whoever wins its gonna be amazin

[Night Rider]

Maywheather's will no longer be known as 'pretty boy' after the fight. He'll be known as Floyd 'elephant man' Maywheather!

[Night Rider]

Ricky Hatton will take a leaf out of Jose Luis Castillo's book and get right in Floyd Mayweather's face.



The Hitman revealed his gameplan to American boxing writers ahead of the stellar WBC welterweight showdown on December 8th - live on Sky Box Office.


The Mancunian says he has studied enough tapes of Mayweather to know what he doesn't like and says that Castillo - the man he beat to set up this fight - and promoter Oscar de la Hoya both showed the way to fight.


Castillo twice took Mayweather the distance in 2002, with many observers feeling he could have at least been given one of the decisions, while de la Hoya pushed him all the way in the first half of their May superfight.


But, says Hatton, neither had his strength or speed to see it through to victory.


"I think I probably know more about Floyd's style and his career and his world fights than probably most fighters out there," he told boxingtalk.com.


"So I've constantly had the tapes and studying the tapes. I know what his strengths are. I know what his weaknesses are. I know - I've been watching these fights where he's been least comfortable.


"And very pleasing for me I think those are the fights where it shows him at his least comfortable - the first fight against Jose Luis Castillo, who was able to bully him to the ropes a lot and, you know, bearing in mind I don't think Castillo has got as good or faster footwork and just footwork as me and physically as strong as me and as quick as me."

I understand I'm an underdog in this fight with obviously everything that Floyd has done, but you look at Oscar's fights and you look at the Castillo fights and the fights against people who have put the pressure on him, he's looking a little bit less comfortable.

[Night Rider]

Ricky Hatton insists he will take the lessons learned from his last experience at welterweight into the Floyd Mayweather fight.


The Hitman endured one of the toughest nights of his career in his only ever experience boxing in the 140 to 147 pound limit in 2005.

He did not convince, despite winning the WBA welterweight title from Luis Collazo on points in that bout.

But as he prepares to move up the weights for only the second time in his 43-fight career Hatton remains in confident mood.


Fitness

"Things couldn't be going better," Hatton told Sky Sports 1. "I've started sparring already with the lads in the gym.

"My weight is right down. I'm holding the weight better - there's less fat more muscle now.

"My last visit to welterweight wasn't the most pleasant, but normally I get in the ring at around the 10st 12 mark, but last time when I fought welterweight I got in at 11st 6. It was very cumbersome and I didn't have the speed to get out of the way of the punches quite as much.

"But I've learnt by my mistakes and I think I'll be better for it, and I'll have to be because he's a five-weight world champion."

Both fighters are putting their undefeated records on the line in the fight, which you can catch live on Sky Box Office on 8th December.

[blckhaze]

noone is in better shape the Mayweather. Despite his over blown ego, he works his ass off. If he decide to focus hes unstoppable. Hatton has to hurt him and hurt him early to have a chance at winning. It just a fact of al mayweather fights, noone has really hurt him in the first half, and his excellent conditioning takes over. just ask de la hoya

[Night Rider]

noone is in better shape the Mayweather. Despite his over blown ego, he works his ass off. If he decide to focus hes unstoppable. Hatton has to hurt him and hurt him early to have a chance at winning. It just a fact of al mayweather fights, noone has really hurt him in the first half, and his excellent conditioning takes over. just ask de la hoya

I know, but Hatton is extremely under-rated in USA. I'm telling u he's gonna shock u. It's a coin flip at best for Floyd. U may think i sound crazy [and i probably am lol] but i think this is a fight too far far Mayweather.

But Hatton needs to knock him out, otherwise i think Floyd will edge it on points. But the hitman is more than capable! Either way, there is going to be abuse thrown out here at me or u LOL unless it's a draw!

Can't fucking wait :D

My prediction

Hatton Round 5

[partlycloudy]

night rider must be british to root for hatton so much.

[Night Rider]

no shit partlycloudy u're on the ball ;)

im not patriot but im sure he'll kick pretty boys ass!!


just u wait and see kid

[Oli]

Hatton's a great fighter, and can absorb a lot of punishment. I think he will against Mayweather. I'm not so sure Mayweather has seen anyone with the combination of resilience and firepower Hatton has. I think, in the end it's Mayweather, but I'm rooting for Hatton.

[partlycloudy]

no shit partlycloudy u're on the ball ;)

im not patriot but im sure he'll kick pretty boys ass!!


just u wait and see kid
care to make this interesting? let's have an avatar bet. loser has to use an avatar of the winner's choosing for a period of 3 months. you got hatton. i got mayweather. interested?

[Night Rider]

no shit partlycloudy u're on the ball ;)

im not patriot but im sure he'll kick pretty boys ass!!


just u wait and see kid
care to make this interesting? let's have an avatar bet. loser has to use an avatar of the winner's choosing for a period of 3 months. you got hatton. i got mayweather. interested?

lol right ok....

...if hatton wins u have to have him as an avatar until jan 08, but if floyd wins then i have to have him until jan 08!!!

and it's of the other persons choice and u have to go through with it!!


deal?

[Quinn]

I think Mayweather is an asshole, and I would like to see him lose. That said, I have to give the guy credit on every level. He's well balanced and smart in the ring. As much as I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton win, I don't think he can do it. As such, I'll be placing a considerable amount of money on Mayweather.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

He definatley can do it...it's just whether he will or not. I'm not rooting for Hatton because im British, it's just because im a fan. When Frank Bruno fought Tyson i was going for Tyson because i liked him [at the time]

just over a month to go :D

[partlycloudy]

no shit partlycloudy u're on the ball ;)

im not patriot but im sure he'll kick pretty boys ass!!


just u wait and see kid
care to make this interesting? let's have an avatar bet. loser has to use an avatar of the winner's choosing for a period of 3 months. you got hatton. i got mayweather. interested?

lol right ok....

...if hatton wins u have to have him as an avatar until jan 08, but if floyd wins then i have to have him until jan 08!!!

and it's of the other persons choice and u have to go through with it!!


deal?
no deal. i have something else in mind as your avatar besides floyd :twisted: so i want to be able to choose.

length is negotiable though. i chose 3 months cause i can go a month without posting easy and 6 months is too long. it'll be served after the winner is determined and the avatar is posted. for example, if the fight was today and i lost then i'll have to use an avatar of your choosing for 3 months (nov 4, 2007 - feb 4, 2008).

let me know.

[Quinn]

Now you're making this interesting PC. :lol:

Cosign. A bet in which the winner pics the loser's avatar or something along those lines is a great idea, not to mention potentially hysterical.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

no deal. i have something else in mind as your avatar besides floyd :twisted: so i want to be able to choose.

length is negotiable though. i chose 3 months cause i can go a month without posting easy and 6 months is too long. it'll be served after the winner is determined and the avatar is posted. for example, if the fight was today and i lost then i'll have to use an avatar of your choosing for 3 months (nov 4, 2007 - feb 4, 2008).

let me know.

no deal. it has to be ricky hatton or floyd "gay boy" mayweather but i'll comprimise for 3 months even though i change my avatar like my boxers.

and if u want we can have a sentence made up for below the avatar...

are we getting close to a deal

[Night Rider]

alright fuck it

the winner picks the avatar for the loser but it's only for 1 month

interested???

:D

[Night Rider]

ur a bunch of hussling bastards lol

maywether is the strong favourate and ur calling the shots..

2months then final offer

:)

[Quinn]

ur a bunch of hussling bastards lol

maywether is the strong favourate and ur calling the shots..

2months then final offer

:)

If no one else accepts those terms, I would be more than happy to take them. My avatar sucks anyway.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

lol

3 way bet if u want (to make things fair :))

u in?

[Night Rider]

Beware partlycloudy Beware

Jamie Moore insists he just can't see any way that Floyd Mayweather is going to beat his good friend Ricky Hatton.



The Hitman is busy training ahead of his massive showdown with Pretty Boy Floyd on December 8, live on Sky Box Office..


British light-middleweight champion Moore knew all about Hatton's talents after the pair went toe-to-toe in their amateur days.


Now fighting out of the same gym in Manchester, he has been able to see how Hatton's preparations are going from close quarters and believes the 29-year-old is in better shape now than when he stopped Kostya Tyszu in 2005.



Unbelievable


"He's looking unbelievable," Moore told Sky Sports News. "Even before the Kostya Tszyu fight he wasn't looking this good.


"He's right down on his weight and is looking sharp and focused and has that look in his eye that he had before he fought Tszyu.


"I just can't see Mayweather beating him. Style-wise Ricky is going to be an absolute nightmare (for Mayweather).


"If anyone can do the job it is Ricky and I really, really do believe that he will do it."


Moore will be the appetiser before the main course when he takes on reigning European light-middleweight champion Zaurbek Baysangurov in Wigan.



The Salford southpaw is hoping he can get the night off to a perfect start for Britain before settling down to watch Hatton in action on the other side of the pond.


Unbeaten Ukrainian Baysangurov will be no pushover for Moore but, having seen footage of his opponent, he is confident he can bring home the belt.



Tough fight


"It's going to be a tough fight, there's no doubt about it," he admitted.


"He (Baysangurov) was an excellent amateur champion and is the European champion now, he's only had 16 fights and has won 12 by knockout.


"I've seen the tape of him and I'm 100 percent confident that I can bring that European title back to England.


"He's pretty similar to me, he's a come forward aggressive fighter. He's a bit upright and stationary like most European fighters are.


"I think I'm more adaptable than him - I've got a bit more variety and that's the reason why I'll come out on top."

[partlycloudy]

night rider,
winner picks avatar/loser wears it for 2 months sounds good to me. deal?

also, you still have your signature spot available for another bet (you can post pics there too).


:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

night rider,
winner picks avatar/loser wears it for 2 months sounds good to me. deal?

also, you still have your signature spot available for another bet (you can post pics there too).


:mrgreen:

Deal.

if there's a KO or TKO then the loser has to have a signiture pic of the winners choice as well as the original bet

deal?

[partlycloudy]

if there's a KO or TKO then the loser has to have a signiture pic of the winners choice as well as the original bet

deal?
i think quinn was looking for a bet so i'll give him first crack. if he passes, i'll take it. you want this one to be 2 months also? this bet is only if the fight ends in ko/tko correct?


:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

correct :)

if quinn doesn't take it then it's for 2 months

[Night Rider]

some vids on the fight if any of u are interested. just click hatton just above the screen for the list...

..mayweather actually seems like a completely different person than the act he puts on for pre-fight promotion

..i'd say he's down to earth :? sort of

http://www.skysports.com/video/0,20285,,00.html

[lust4ts]

Hatton's furiosity will wear him down just like it did Tszyu, maraud him, spoil a bit, open him up with crunching body shots and just take his heart away.

I went to the Hatton/Tszyu fight at the M.E.N in Manchester, Ricky was brilliant, remember at the time Tszyu was known as the biggest puncher at light (or junior as they say in the U.S) welterweight, and Ricky just walked through his best shots. He was undefeated for ten years, and for the people who say he was over the hill, he had just destroyed Shamba Mitchell with ease.

Ricky will be so up for it, and one thing about Ricky is you can never prepare for his style.

Ricky tenth round stoppage is my bet.

[Night Rider]

Hatton's furiosity will wear him down just like it did Tszyu, maraud him, spoil a bit, open him up with crunching body shots and just take his heart away.

I went to the Hatton/Tszyu fight at the M.E.N in Manchester, Ricky was brilliant, remember at the time Tszyu was known as the biggest puncher at light (or junior as they say in the U.S) welterweight, and Ricky just walked through his best shots. He was undefeated for ten years, and for the people who say he was over the hill, he had just destroyed Shamba Mitchell with ease.

Ricky will be so up for it, and one thing about Ricky is you can never prepare for his style.

Ricky tenth round stoppage is my bet.

Hatton is in the best shape of his life. He's even said it himself. In his last fight against Castillo he was carrying a bit more weight, which he said himself, made him slower. He hasn't peaked yet in terms of full match fitness, but that's only because they'll time that to perfection (Dec 8). He's looking very powerfull and quick and i'm sure he'll beat him.

In fact I think he'll destroy him if Mayweather underestimates him.

I'll call KO round 7.... :D

[lust4ts]

Hatton's furiosity will wear him down just like it did Tszyu, maraud him, spoil a bit, open him up with crunching body shots and just take his heart away.

I went to the Hatton/Tszyu fight at the M.E.N in Manchester, Ricky was brilliant, remember at the time Tszyu was known as the biggest puncher at light (or junior as they say in the U.S) welterweight, and Ricky just walked through his best shots. He was undefeated for ten years, and for the people who say he was over the hill, he had just destroyed Shamba Mitchell with ease.

Ricky will be so up for it, and one thing about Ricky is you can never prepare for his style.

Ricky tenth round stoppage is my bet.

Hatton is in the best shape of his life. He's even said it himself. In his last fight against Castillo he was carrying a bit more weight, which he said himself, made him slower. He hasn't peaked yet in terms of full match fitness, but that's only because they'll time that to perfection (Dec 8). He's looking very powerfull and quick and i'm sure he'll beat him.

In fact I think he'll destroy him if Mayweather underestimates him.

I'll call KO round 7.... :D

Lets face it Mayweather hates being roughed up and that's one thing Ricky is going to do to him.

Billy Graham will have a solid plan, watch tapes for hours, whether Ricky follows that plan to point, or not he will still win.

He just needs to go after him from round one, use the head a bit, lean on him, chase him down, stay right in his face for the whole fight because Mayweather will be dangerous if you give him time and room.

Mayweather is used to outboxing fighters, Ricky knows that and simply will not let him.


Ricky has the perfect style to take him way out of his comfort zone, I've seen him do it before and he will do it again.

[Night Rider]

Exactly, Mayweather can't handle constant pressure. If Ricky doesn't give him time to settle from the start, I just don't see Mayweather beating him.

Mayweather didn't exactly win convincingly against De La Hoya. Hatton is definately his fiercest opponent so far and I think he knows it. Mayweather doesn't seem as cocky as he usually is pre-fight. I know he was messing about at the press conference but I don't think he's as confident as he's making out.

[Quinn]

My apologies for taking so long to get back to this. I've been all over the place the last week or so. Anyway, Partly discussed a deal with you first, and I don't want to step over that, but I still want to be invovled. Here's what I propose:

1) If Hatton wins, Night Rider, you get to pic the avatar for both Partly and I for two months.

2) If Mayweather wins, Partly pics your avatar for two months (I have faith in his ability to select a good one).

3) Anything pertaining to the sig (KO, TKO, etc.) is a side bet between you and Partly.

Let me know if this is acceptable to the two of you. I can't wait for this fight...

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

Sounds good to me Quinn.

Only 3 1/2 wks to go :D

[partlycloudy]

sounds good to me too.

[Quinn]

Nice... Gentlemen, we have a deal – one that will give me yet another reason to scream like a maniac at the television during a big boxing match (seriously, I frequently lose my voice).

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

It adds even more excitment to the fight. Just so we're clear on this, there's no rules regarding the avatars which means no matter how obsene or gay it is, u have to accept.

Hatton better not let me down!

[Night Rider]

I'll try not to but some people have a death wish for me :D

[partlycloudy]

3 weeks to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZBr-h2_hEs



:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

Yep, can't wait.

Just hope Hatton doesn't hit him with a lethal body shot too early in the match 8) Should be good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjH-Y9HMQB0&feature=related

[Quinn]

HBO is featuring a "count down" to the fight, where they track each fightersr progress in traning (same as they did for the De La Hoya fight). The first episode airs tonight.

http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&FOCUS_ID=657525

Hopefully, those of you stuck on the other side of the pond get it too.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

Hopefully, those of you stuck on the other side of the pond get it too.

-Quinn

Unfortunately the shithole that's known as UK doesn't get HBO.

[Quinn]

Hopefully, those of you stuck on the other side of the pond get it too.

-Quinn

Unfortunately the shithole that's known as UK doesn't get HBO.

I'm willing to bet you'll be able to find the show on Youtube tomorrow.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

Nice one.

I'll definately check it out.

[partlycloudy]

hatton vs mayweather 24/7

part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niy7CvXD8YY
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J74S7GYcs5Q
part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCBYtFQX_k
part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ59KOSK0pQ


i almost wanna root for hatton just based on their personalities. but there's no denying mayweather's talent.

[Night Rider]

i almost wanna root for hatton just based on their personalities. but there's no denying mayweather's talent.

True. Mayweather is a legend no matter what the outcome.

Cheers for the links.

[Quinn]

i almost wanna root for hatton just based on their personalities. but there's no denying mayweather's talent.

I know the feeling. I'm not a fan of Mayweather's big mouth – and I absolutely loathe his entourage. Still, the guy always rises to the occasion and is unfailing in his ability to back up his claims.

I also saw something in Hatton's training last night that made me feel a lot better about our wager and Mayweather's chances.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

I also saw something in Hatton's training last night that made me feel a lot better about our wager and Mayweather's chances.

care to share?

:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

one week until someone is sporting a cringable avatar :D

[partlycloudy]

one week until someone is sporting a cringable avatar :D
hope you don't get banned before you get to serve out the bet.



:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

one week until someone is sporting a cringable avatar :D
hope you don't get banned before you get to serve out the bet.



:mrgreen:

Hopefully Hatton won't fuck me over..

And you have to post at least once a day!

:twisted:

[Night Rider]

Billy Graham has rubbished claims by Floyd Mayweather that he is the greatest fighter of all time, saying he is not in the same class as Muhammad Ali in, or out of, the ring.


Mayweather continues to build himself up ahead of Saturday's fight but Ricky Hatton's trainer admits neither he not his fighter are intimidated by the American's brash proclamations.

"He can rant and rave and shout and say all the things he wants - but it doesn't matter to me, or more importantly to Ricky," Graham said.

"I've met plenty of fighters who are a bit intimidating. But Floyd's not intimidating; he's not scary.


Poor imitation

"Ali was the master. He was funny, and you could see that he was a really nice guy behind it all. Floyd's neither got his wit nor his timing. He's a very poor imitation of Muhammad Ali.

"I know the bloke's got a lot of ability - but he's not a scary man. I think somewhere hidden deep down is a nice guy who's a little bit insecure.

"I'm not so sure he's as confident as he says he is."

Down-to-earth Graham also reiterated his belief in Hatton, whom he has helped to mould into a world class fighter since the pair got together more than a decade ago.

And he believes his all-action style will always prove more popular with fight fans than Mayweather's more negative tactics.


Workrate

"I am always looking for my fighter to dismantle his opponent and win inside the distance, because that is what boxing is all about," he said.

"Ricky will fight from bell to bell, and it will be hard to outpoint him because of his workrate.

"I think people would rather watch Ricky than Floyd. Floyd's a fantastic fighter, and his idea is to hit and not be hit. But the reality is that that isn't really what it's all about.

"People come to see a fight, and that's what Ricky Hatton always gives them. That's why Ricky is the best British boxer ever.

"He's the complete package. I'd rather watch Ricky Hatton fight than any other fighter on this planet."

[Night Rider]

Ricky Hatton issued a defiant warning to Floyd Mayweather ahead of the biggest fight of the decade as he vowed: "I'm going to knock you out."



The Hitman and the Pretty Boy will go toe-to toe in Las Vegas on Saturday night when their eagerly-anticipated WBC welterweight showdown takes place at the MGM Grand.


Neither fighter has tasted defeat in their professional careers and with just a week to go until the biggest night of his career, Hatton reckons his proud record will still be intact after the fight.


However, he is no longer simply expecting to beat Mayweather in his own back yard, but is planning to knock his rival out and steal his title as the best pound-for-pound boxer on the planet.


"This is everything I've strived for and it means everything to me," Hatton said.


"I'll be going for the knockout like I always do. With every training session I'm feeling more confident that I can knock him out.


"I used to have the mentality that I would be happy just to beat him. But now, I'm thinking I'm going to knock him out!


"I think he is in the comfort zone in his training camp, there's no venom in his punches and he's never going through the pain barrier.


"I know his speed and his boxing ability will lead me a merry dance in the fight from time to time, but can he keep it up for 12 rounds? Is he going to hit me hard enough? Is his defence good enough? Look how good I am at threading my punches into the smallest area.



"I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I just don't see him beating me."



Talking dirty

Hatton's confidence is perhaps based on noises coming out of the Mayweather camp as the American fighter and his trainer and uncle, Roger, have escalated the war of words between the two boxers.


They have started to suggest that the Hitman is a "dirty fighter" and while Hatton strongly refutes that claim, he sees their comments as a sign of weakness and an attempt to influence the officials.



Distance


"Nobody has ever accused me of being a dirty fighter before," he continued. "Physical, yes, but never dirty.


"They've said those things because Floyd Mayweather doesn't want to get involved. He wants to keep the fight at a distance for as long as he possibly can and he's calling me a dirty fighter to try and influence the referee.


"That's why I'm delighted that Joe Cortez has been appointed as the referee because he can see past that.


"If Floyd had it his way it would probably be non-contact. If I'm making infringements, then the referee will deduct points, but he mustn't do it just because I'm making it physical. He must let the fight rock on."


Hatton also vowed to put the seal on a triumphant year for British boxing and is determined to prove wrong his American critics who claim he has no chance against the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.



Sweeter

He concluded: "They've written me off in America. They are all going for Mayweather and that's the way I like it. There's not a living soul there that thinks I'm going to win, but that will make it all the sweeter when I do.


"The Americans have always tended to have the heavyweight champion of the world and they've lost that in recent years with the rise of the Russians and other countries.


"So if Britain were to take the title of best pound-for-pound boxer as well, then it would be devastating for them.


"British fighters haven't had a great deal of respect in the past from the American fight press. They say we defend our world titles in our own back yard, but when we come up against the Americans we tend to lose.


"Britain has had a lot of great champions and a lot of undisputed champions, but how many of them could you say were the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world?


"Joe Calzaghe, Gavin Rees, Enzo Maccarinelli and David Haye are all coming over to cheer me on, which makes me feel very proud."


"So with them in my corner, I'd say to the Americans: 'The Brits are coming'."

[Quinn]

Ricky Hatton issued a defiant warning to Floyd Mayweather ahead of the biggest fight of the decade as he vowed: "I'm going to knock you out."

If it happens, it will be huge, but I just don't see it. I think it's a fool's bet for those few willing to make it.


"I think he is in the comfort zone in his training camp, there's no venom in his punches and he's never going through the pain barrier."

I have to disagree with this point. Mayweather getting soft living in the lap of luxury is a legitimate concern, as with any fighter from his background, but I haven't seen any evidence of this – and I've watched for it (since both my money and my avatar are on the line).


They have started to suggest that the Hitman is a "dirty fighter" and while Hatton strongly refutes that claim, he sees their comments as a sign of weakness and an attempt to influence the officials.

I agree with this assessment. It’s a bitch move.


The Americans have always tended to have the heavyweight champion of the world and they've lost that in recent years with the rise of the Russians and other countries.

The continental European style of boxing stinks. It really can’t compare. The only reason we’re seeing a rise in boxers from these other countries is because: One, many of them are adopting the more fluid American style; two, there haven't been any good American heavyweights for quite a while.

-Quinn

[Night Rider]

Don't get my wrong Quinn, I'm not agreeing with all that. Just the part that Ricky's going to knock him out. Prepare for a shock.

:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

Less than a week left until Fight Night, Night Rider. You nervous? :lol:

Hatton's gonna knock him the fuck out!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9rHyuicVE8&feature=related

Boxing legend Oscar de la Hoya insists Ricky Hatton has what it takes to shake up the world in Las Vegas on Saturday night.



Floyd Mayweather is a hot favourite to be the man to retain his 'Undefeated' tag in the 'Fight of the Decade', but de la Hoya is tipping Manchester's finest to upset the odds.


Speaking after watching Hatton's final serious sparring session before Saturday's fight, six-weight former world champion de la Hoya told Sky Sports News: "Watch for Ricky Hatton to make the fight happen. Watch for Ricky Hatton to put the pressure on in a very intelligent way.


"Because that's the difference with Ricky Hatton. Yes, he is going to put the pressure on but in a smart way and I think when he mentioned that a while back, that's when I thought to myself - he is going to do it."



Comfort zone


De la Hoya lost a contentious split decision to Mayweather earlier this year but in the early rounds of that fight he showed how the 'Pretty Boy' could be pressurised out of his comfort zone. He has been advising Hatton on how it's done.


"I have been in there with Floyd and I know what it takes to beat him," de la Hoya added. "I gave (Ricky) a few inside tracks and he has been following them.


"He has a great trainer and a great team and they know what they are doing. That combination right there can really catapult him to that next level and win this fight.


"Ricky Hatton obviously has done his homework. He knows what he is doing - mentally and physically I see him as the strongest he's ever been."


As for the man himself, he is as relaxed as ever as the biggest night of his life creeps ever closer.


"I'm fired up but it's controlled aggression," he told Sky Sports News. "There is a lot of press around and obviously a lot of interviews because of the size of the fight I'm involved in, but I'm my usual sarcastic, relaxed and joking self."

[Night Rider]

You sound confident. Have you found Partly cloudy's avatar yet?

I haven't found his or Quinn's yet, but I haven't really looked that much yet. Have you had any luck with legend's? When does that start anyway?

[Night Rider]

You sound confident. Have you found Partly cloudy's avatar yet?

I haven't found his or Quinn's yet, but I haven't really looked that much yet. Have you had any luck with legend's? When does that start anyway?

I think I'm going with the one I posted on the Thailand thread. The Payment was originally set to start January 1st. I might PM Legend and tell him he can start sooner if he wants.


Yeah, the sooner the better. That was a good one anyway! :lol:

[lust4ts]

The only new avatar NR might be having after staurday is going to be one showing that money throwing, smug asshole being knocked on his ass!

[Night Rider]

you know it's true!

[JamesHunt]

I haven't read all the replies on this thread, and I'm no expert on boxing. I'm just going off all the bull I've heard on the media. From what I can gather, Mayweather is faster than Hatton, and has a longer reach, and twists his punch on impact to tear the skin, and has no probs with stanima over 12 rounds or whatever. I'd suggest Mayweater keeps his distance, aims for Hattons eyes & gets em bleeding, stay out of close combat and use his reach to punish that bleeding zone....

I hope I'm wrong & talking bullshit

Best of luck Hatton 8)

[TJ347]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

[JamesHunt]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

I believe Hatton will win this fight through pure heart, I don't think he's interested in the money :wink:

[lust4ts]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

Hatton's last fight was against Castillo TJ, a Knock out with a great body shot.

You are thinking of Collazo a couple of fights before, that was a tight desicion, granted.

Also Ricky has allot of support from current and former American fighters. i.e Oscar and Bernard Hopkins.

Anyway soon all this debate will be over and we will be dissecting the fight, "blow by blow" so to speak. And if I'm proved wrong, then so be it, but Ricky's furiosity will be too much for him! A ninth round TKO is my prediction :)

[Night Rider]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

I know boxing and there are plenty of people who know boxing think otherwise. Shane Mosley's American and he's tipped Hatton as have many others. It's not as cut and dry as you Americans think, this is without a doubt, by far Mayweathers toughest fight yet. He struggled against an over the hill De La Hoya and he didn't have the speed and persistence of Hatton. How can you say Hatton can't fight his weight, his record is 42-0. And the fight you were refering to (Collazo) was a close fight but there was no doubt Hatton won it.

Just you wait TJ, if you're not watching it just logg on here after and you'll find Quinn and partlycloudy with a couple of new avatars :lol:

[blckhaze]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

I know boxing and there are plenty of people who know boxing think otherwise. Shane Mosley's American and he's tipped Hatton as have many others. It's not as cut and dry as you Americans think, this is without a doubt, by far Mayweathers toughest fight yet. He struggled against an over the hill De La Hoya and he didn't have the speed and persistence of Hatton. How can you say Hatton can't fight his weight, his record is 42-0. And the fight you were refering to (Collazo) was a close fight but there was no doubt Hatton won it.

Just you wait TJ, if you're not watching it just logg on here after and you'll find Quinn and partlycloudy with a couple of new avatars :lol:


do agree. if God had created a guy to beat mayweather jr, i can think of only a few. suga ray robinson, suga ray lenord, and ricky hatton. Hatton, unlike De la hoya, has the power to slow down maywather like j.l. castillo did. the de la hoya fight was scored with oscars past in mind, floyd didnt reall dominate, but he easily won that fight. My edge still goes to mayweather as hes is a fucking boxing savant and can pick his pots well, but watching the last three or four fights, he has the tendency to stand still even if hes bobbing his head. If you can catch him in the body with short crisp hooks while maintaining a jab or quick cross upstairs, u has a shot to win. wont be easy, but do able. oscar and jose luis proved hes beatable
Its kinda like hat the pats are goin throught right now. last few games, theyve been tested and a blue print is out there now on how to be em. same goes for mayweather. theres a plan, just need someone buit to execute it.

[Night Rider]

Hatton's gonna lose, and nobody who knows boxing thinks otherwise. Hell, Hatton lost his last fight, honestly. It was a gimme. And that guy was no Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Hatton's slower, can't hit as hard, and isn't particularly good fighting at this weight. Sorry, but it's another great white hope turned great white hype when all's said and done. Not that he isn't a very good fighter, but his name wouldn't make it on a list of the best who ever did it... and like it or not, Floyd's would. Even if he does imitate 50 Cent too much for my liking...

I know boxing and there are plenty of people who know boxing think otherwise. Shane Mosley's American and he's tipped Hatton as have many others. It's not as cut and dry as you Americans think, this is without a doubt, by far Mayweathers toughest fight yet. He struggled against an over the hill De La Hoya and he didn't have the speed and persistence of Hatton. How can you say Hatton can't fight his weight, his record is 42-0. And the fight you were refering to (Collazo) was a close fight but there was no doubt Hatton won it.

Just you wait TJ, if you're not watching it just logg on here after and you'll find Quinn and partlycloudy with a couple of new avatars :lol:


do agree. if God had created a guy to beat mayweather jr, i can think of only a few. suga ray robinson, suga ray lenord, and ricky hatton. Hatton, unlike De la hoya, has the power to slow down maywather like j.l. castillo did. the de la hoya fight was scored with oscars past in mind, floyd didnt reall dominate, but he easily won that fight. My edge still goes to mayweather as hes is a fucking boxing savant and can pick his pots well, but watching the last three or four fights, he has the tendency to stand still even if hes bobbing his head. If you can catch him in the body with short crisp hooks while maintaining a jab or quick cross upstairs, u has a shot to win. wont be easy, but do able. oscar and jose luis proved hes beatable
Its kinda like hat the pats are goin throught right now. last few games, theyve been tested and a blue print is out there now on how to be em. same goes for mayweather. theres a plan, just need someone buit to execute it.

I agree, if it goes the distance then Mayweather will probably win, but if it's early then it will be Hatton (although Hatton's a bleeder). Mayweather has a 7" reach advantage but Hatton likes to fight on the inside anyway so it shouldn't be a problem. It's going to be a contrast in styles with Hatton's power going forward and Mayweather's excellant defensive skills.

[Night Rider]

The only new avatar NR might be having after staurday is going to be one showing that money throwing, smug asshole being knocked on his ass!

It seems to me that you ought to be betting too, if you're that confident. :D

I'd take the bet lust. I'm telling you it's a certainty.

[Night Rider]

The only new avatar NR might be having after staurday is going to be one showing that money throwing, smug asshole being knocked on his ass!

It seems to me that you ought to be betting too, if you're that confident. :D

I'd take the bet lust. I'm telling you it's a certainty.

The silence from Lust is deafening. :lol:

LOL PM him, that might work...i wanna see more avatars on the line 8)

[big_red3445]

mayweather...hands down

[Night Rider]

:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

[blckhaze]

OMG i wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt seen it with my own two eys. This was an ending NOONE saw.

[Night Rider]

OMG i wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt seen it with my own two eys. This was an ending NOONE saw.

I must admit that KO was impressive.

[lust4ts]

The only new avatar NR might be having after staurday is going to be one showing that money throwing, smug asshole being knocked on his ass!

It seems to me that you ought to be betting too, if you're that confident. :D

I'd take the bet lust. I'm telling you it's a certainty.

The silence from Lust is deafening. :lol:

I'm so glad I didn't now, respect to Mayweather, not a great man, but a great fighter, granted!

[partlycloudy]

there's only oooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeee may-WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!


:mrgreen:

[Night Rider]

:banghead :censor

[Night Rider]

Tribute to Mayweather....good reading

Floyd Mayweather was - and still is - the best pound-for-pound fighter. But he had never had that one defining fight that rubber-stamped his greatness. It may have been one-sided in the end but, says Tim Hobbs, it took Ricky Hatton to remind us all just how good and indeed great, the Pretty Boy is...



You've got to hand it to Ricky Hatton. Even in defeat he managed to treat us all.


Not to the sort of barnstorming display that stunned Kostya Tszyu into submission. Not to a blood-and-guts battle that will go down in boxing folklore.


And sadly, not to the sight of a Briton stood proudly at the top of the pound-for-pound rankings, the WBC belt round his waist and the world at his feet.


Instead, what Ricky gave bleary-eyed boxing fans and interested newcomers in the small hours of Sunday morning, was proof that Floyd Mayweather Jr is what he told us all along: the very best there is.


In dismantling the very live challenge of Manchester's finest, the Pretty Boy produced a display so shrewd, so slick and so stylish that even the most ardent Hatton fans had something to cling on to.


And those newcomers had the pleasure of witnessing something close to perfection. And he did it without even breaking sweat.


From the moment he marched into the ring, without a trace of pomp or ceremony to when he left it, undefeated record intact and the thousands of Brits applauding, Mayweather was a man in complete control. Of his own destiny, of his opponent and indeed the outcome.


Admittedly, referee Joe Cortez deprived Hatton of his only real chance of ruffling Floyd's millionaire feathers, but you still got the feeling that even if he had been allowed in close, the challenger could have come a cropper even quicker.


For once the Hitman's irresistible force came up against an object that was anything but immovable in Mayweather. We knew about the fleet of foot and speed of hand, we had seen him leave some of boxing's biggest reputations - and Arturo Gatti's face - in tatters.


Admirer

But did everyone inside and outside the Phoenix Camp, under-estimate the Pretty Boy? Guilty as charged. And I considered myself an admirer.


Parallels to previous eras do no-one any favours, but give him his dues, defensively Mayweather can compare to anyone. The half-turned shoulder, the blocking with elbows and arms, the slight faints that, more often than not, squared Hatton up as he honed in were - if you were quick enough to catch them - a sight to behold.


Offensively, you don't win world titles at five weights with speed - or knockout power - alone. Mayweather has them both as he showed in round eight, when the slightest gap opened up between them and before Hatton could think about landing and even before Cortez could step in, he unleashed a sickening five-punch combination, all of them spot-on, all of them sending Hatton's head rocking back.


The finish, when it ultimately came was emphatic. He'd spent six rounds setting it up - he'd taken the fifth round off as only he can do in a world title fight - he lured Hatton in, stepped to the side, turned him onto the ropes and as he did so pivoted off the left foot and whipped in a short left hook that was right on the (sizeable) money.


Hatton's look said it all from the floor. He knew it was no good. He made the count but he knew he was beaten. And by the better man. He knew he was going to have to produce something special anyway, and had his senses not been scrambled, he would have realised that even then it was probably doing Floyd a huge disservice.


It may be because we all wanted Ricky to win so badly we were looking for any which way to belittle Mayweather's skills.


It may be because we in Britain find it hard to put sportsmen on a pedestal for any other reason than to knock them off.


And it probably was because we just didn't like him.


But either way, it took the downfall of a national hero to remind us that boxing already has its own Tiger Woods, its own Roger Federer. Record-breaking, money-making and just downright exceptional. Way too good for Ricky, just as he was way too good for the 38 that had been beaten before him. And too good for his own good.


Weakness

OK, he did himself few favours, with the trash-talking and arrogance. But it sold tickets and pay per view buys and the grace - and shrewdness - in paying homage to Hatton and his fans he showed afterwards proved us all wrong. He's not the devil incarnate after all.


We all thought he was taking Hatton lightly, another routine defence in a long line of stellar challengers that have all been beaten. The straight right leads that landed with alarming ease were not off the cuff. He had no doubt seen Kostya Tszyu do the same and seen a weakness in Hatton. We were wrong again.


He was supposed to have hand problems. He had barely dented the heavybag in training and even if 100 per cent he couldn't punch; he hadn't stopped someone in two years. Someone's 'o' had to go, but that left hook nearly took the 'h', the 'a', the double 't' and the 'n' with it. Wrong again.


And with millions in the bank, surely the king of bling was lacking motivation. His mind shouldn't have been on it. Well, 50 Cent was kicked to the curb for Bruce Springsteen's Born In The USA. The ringwalk was for once just that. No chariots, no headgear, no dancing girls. Instead just a plain robe, hood up, eyes down, focused. Another mistake on our part.


In our defence, we hadn't questioned Mayweather's pound-for-pound title. But we needed proof of just how good he was. Warriors like Gatti couldn't help us, slicksters like Sharmba Mitchell and Zab Judah couldn't either.


Oscar de la Hoya gave us a hint for the first six rounds but ultimately it was left to Ricky, bloodied, but brave to the bitter end, to show us what we'd all suspected, but refused to buy into all along... that Floyd Mayweather Jr is in a class all of his own.


As I say, I was a confirmed admirer before. Now, although I am not about to start up a club or a facebook group and expect you all to sign up, I am a Floyd Mayweather fan.


Watch the re-run on Friday night, buy the DVD when it's out, even ask Ricky should you bump into him in a Manchester watering hole and you'll find at last, I'm not wrong.

[vegasboy]

Joe Cortez is a dick, and he wouldn't let them fight for a couple of rounds, but not even Mickey Vann could have helped Ricky. Ricky's a tough guy and a very good fighter. His performance against Castillo was impressive, but he wasn't using a jab at all in this fight.

I did pick Mayweather, but I thought it would be much closer than it was. We'll see Ricky Hatton again.

[Night Rider]

Joe Cortez is a dick, and he wouldn't let them fight for a couple of rounds, but not even Mickey Vann could have helped Ricky. Ricky's a tough guy and a very good fighter. His performance against Castillo was impressive, but he wasn't using a jab at all in this fight.

I did pick Mayweather, but I thought it would be much closer than it was. We'll see Ricky Hatton again.

I agree Joe Cortez was an absolute joke. At one stage he said he was going to take a point of both fighters for the same incident! What is he about?

He was as nervous as I've ever seen a fighter pre-fight, he could hardly string a sentence together. His gameplan went to shit right from the start, and as you say he never used his jab. That aside Mayweather was different class and that 5 shot combo and knockout was very impressive. I still think if Hatton got another chance it could end up a different story even though Mayweather is the better fighter.

The English press have been quick to say Hatton had a good fight but that's nothing like the real Ricky Hatton....courageous, yes but not a good performance at all compared to what he's capable of.

My hat's of to Mayweather though, he deserved the win, no doubt.

[vegasboy]

Funny you say that about him being nervous. I was thinking he looked wound up in his dressing room. He's the type of live wire that needs to get going before a fight, but he was too revved up. He came out quickly and Joe Cortez was calling break as soon as they touched each other.

The weird thing was that Hatton wasn't that successful when he did start bulling Mayweather to the ropes. Maybe it was the elbow he got in the face, maybe he was panicked, maybe he was fatiguing at that point but definitely Mayweather was better on the inside than I though he'd be.

Hatton has a great left hook to the body and head as I'm sure you know as a fan. The Mayweather defense is good at nullifying the left hook, but maybe Hatton will land it to the body more next time. Either way, Hatton could do a lot better in a rematch and before the sixth round it was competitive. Credit to Mayweather. But I am annoyed that some boxing fans are saying Mayweather might be the best p4p of all time. That's just horseshit to anyone who's watched tapes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Aaron Pryor, Hank Armstrong, the list goes on. But he's a hell of a fighter.

[Night Rider]

On Sky Box Office Hatton had an interview before the match and I've never seen anyone as nervous. He sounded like he was high on acid, it was that bad! Then he was putting on the "hard man" focused face but underneath you just knew the occasion was getting to him. Hopefully he can pick himself up and go on another good run of victories.

Yeah, I completely agree that Mayweather's not the best p4p, in fact he's a good bit off the mark. At this moment in time there's no doubt he's the best p4p, but not of all time.

That said, he's one of the most talented of all time, it's just a pity he didn't produce more performances like he did against Hatton.

If he does decide to stick to his word and retire, noone can critisise his achievements.