Question:Do you pay to fuck or get it for free?

[Freak_on_A_Leash]

Just want to take a quick survey on this board because my message was deleted on the *** site board. Do most of you pay for sex or do you get it for free? Not sex with your wives, but with shemales. personally I've gotten my handful of free samples but for the most part I've had to pay.

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[Porndog]

u do realize that either way you end up paying. Nothing in this world is free. u either pay mentally, physically or someother way.

[thanos]

On 2002-02-20 03:19, Porndog wrote:
u do realize that either way you end up paying. Nothing in this world is free. u either pay mentally, physically or someother way.


PD don't make me shit myself. You're the only 40+ year old who can still get "freebies", you charming motherfucker!

[Quinn]

At thirty years of age, I have been sleeping with shemales for 5 years now. To date, I have only paid for it with one woman (twice). As none of my friends share my taste for shemales (or even know that I enjoy them for that matter), I can't be sure that my experience is typical. It probably isn't. Regardless, I have been fortunate to sleep with quite a few very attractive shemales without paying it. However, Porndog is correct that you do end up paying - even if you aren't paying cash.

i pay, and i do so glady. i'm 35 and i really don't have time to wine and dine someone. with cash, it's quick, easy, and painless. a business transaction, no need for messy emotions. and since we're quoting old sayings, i have one: "you don't pay a hooker for sex.you pay her to leave when your done."

Love that last quote. Never thought of it that way. Yes you pay for it one way or another. worse still if you happen to "bond" with one their going to hit you up for cash or some other type of favor. just like a woman. Yes I also pay and gladly! Who needs the excess emotional bullshit.

[dj4monie]

The biggest problem I have with paying for is that 90% of my dates don't cost $150 or more.

I took a local "T" out late last year. We went out two times, total cost was around $180-$190. That includes, parking, drinks (she drank like a fish and so did her brother) and later dinner after going to "Peanuts" the first time and Rage (gay club, yes I know...). Not that I count my money before and after talking somebody out on a date. But after two dates and a few phone calls, we just kinda stop seeing each other.

She was usually tall for a girl (6'2 and liked to wear heels, I'm 6'1) so that was kinda unconfortable. Plus on the "passable" scale, she was about a 6. Maybe that's bias cause I know what usually gives a T away to the general public. But for those that don't think like I do, then she might go un-noticed pretty easily.

That's the ONLY true TS I have ever been with. Everybody else was some sort of a BiCD and thought they were TV's. But I took the attitude, you gotta start someplace, right?

After digging deep into the scene alone (friends and family have no idea) for about a year or so now, I'm disapointed by the level of TS I see that are NOT in the industry as either a porn star or escort and usually both. That is totally the case on AOL, just about every good looking TS on AOL is a porn star or up and coming porn star or escort. Personally I think I'm one of the few people that can truly handle my girlfriend(s) being involved in that kind of lifestyle or career. I don't playa hate, you get over the best way you know how and the adult sex business is high paying so I don't blame alot of them for doing it.

So I don't have a problem with that. I guess I just have to get out there more. But I hate clubbing alone...

[NYCe]

In order for most TS's to look as good as the Porn Stars or Escorts, they need to pull in serious amounts of money. Between Silicon Injections, Hormones, Electrolysis, etc, we're talking over 10,000 dollars, and that's not even considering major surgery (nose jobs, dental work, jawline reconstruction, implants...). So find a girl who's a 10, natural and without working in "the business" is going to be a hard task. You have those rare girls who have it all without any assists from the doctor, but those are few, far between, and more than likely, taken.

[dj4monie]

Well I do know ONE lady. Natural looking, has never work in the business and is a career student...lol

She's giving me a hard time now, so I'm looking at other options.

Like I said, I'd date an escort or porn actress. Guess that means another trip or two to Peanuts..lol

suprisingly dating an escort or porn star isn't that hard. one u learn to separate their job from who they are, it's much easier. sometimes u trip out when you see pics of your girl on the net or in an escort paper.

[dj4monie]

I wouldn't trip. It's a means to an end and should be treated as such. Some enjoy there work, or at least lie to themselves.

Once upon a time, I did call up a TS in LaXpress one night. We just started talking, talked for about an hour or two that night. I would call her every so often, maybe twice a week. She never asked me if I was coming over or anything like that. I guess being an escort wasn't her favorite thing to be doing. So I guess I sounded like BF material, but that never end up happening because she shortly moved to Santa .ca and changed numbers and I never heard from her again.

So I totally agree it's possible. But I think you have to make it known your just not in it for free ass, but the long haul. How I got to talking to this girl prolly isn't the best way to go about it, but Im not too sure meeting them at Peanuts is much better since most of the girls there are looking for a "trick" for the evening.

I guess the best place would be Queen Mary or any laid-back type of TG night club. Meghan Chavilier (sp?) and a few other porn starts used (maybe still do) go there. I know Meghan is married now, but I'm sure at least 75% of the "A-List" ladies aren't involved with anybody.

Guess I'll have to put my theory to the test.

I have to disagree with "anonymous" on that point, no matter how much you lie to yourself about her job, if you ever catch falling in love, you won't be able to balance what she does with how you feel. Ask yourself this, would you be alright knowing that the bed you lay in at night is the same bed where 4 or 5 guys fucked your wife during the daytime. What about knowing that anybody could "get at your wife" for the right price. Sure it's a means to an end, but i can't see myself doing it. If you can, your a better man than me.

[dj4monie]

It takes a strong metal makeup I would suppose. The way I kinda look at, at least she's -

A) Getting paid for her services. It just goes to prove men will pay for anything if it has women or sex involved in it, so her getting over, I kinda have the last laugh. At least she's sleeping with me because she wants to and not because she has too.

B) Is it really any different than before you got involved? She was doing alot of guys before then and I'm sure most would agree with me, they would stop if they got seriously involved with somebody. So if they stepped out of the business, then it's your job to provide for her while she tries to find more legit work. Some would like to stay involved because the money is good. I don't know too many jobs that somebody can make as much as $5000 or more a week.

It would be no different than dating a natural girl that was a stripper or a porn actress.

It's not for everybody. But your not less of a man for dating or loving such a woman.

On 2002-05-20 06:34, dj4monie wrote:
It takes a strong metal makeup I would suppose. The way I kinda look at, at least she's -

A) Getting paid for her services. It just goes to prove men will pay for anything if it has women or sex involved in it, so her getting over, I kinda have the last laugh. At least she's sleeping with me because she wants to and not because she has too.

B) Is it really any different than before you got involved? She was doing alot of guys before then and I'm sure most would agree with me, they would stop if they got seriously involved with somebody. So if they stepped out of the business, then it's your job to provide for her while she tries to find more legit work. Some would like to stay involved because the money is good. I don't know too many jobs that somebody can make as much as $5000 or more a week.

It would be no different than dating a natural girl that was a stripper or a porn actress.

It's not for everybody. But your not less of a man for dating or loving such a woman.






true, but how many natural girls are strippers or porn actresses? (well you're out in LA so it's probably different ratio for you) :smile:

[dj4monie]

More than a few, you can be sure of that.

[thanos]

I have to agree with Tony on this one, once you get over any inital issues, dating an escort is just like dating a girl with any other jobs.

Except for the fact that she'll constantly keep a collection of condoms on her, just-in-case. :wink:

Most girls can easily draw a line between business/personal lives.

i find it hard to believe that all that wear and tear on a girl doesn't affect the sex

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[RallyCola]

I too gladly pay transwomen escorts. I have no issue with purely NSA fun. It is a very small investment in my happiness and I deserve it. Now, if my wife left me, I would date any women that had the looks and personality I am attracted to but until that point, I'll pay for an hour or two at a time.

[Jericho]

Damn, Thredula has risen from the grave! :hide-1:

[RallyCola]

Holy crap, I didn't even look at the date. Oh well, I've necro'ed enough for today.

[LI SEAN08]

Of course I paid both ggs and tgs. And Ive had some great times with both. Evan tho I have a hot Latina gg that I see as a real girlfriend, I still find it irrisistable to be with a a tranny. And most here in NY are hookers. Therfore, Ive answered ads as well as put my own up looking for CDs. Ive discovered that very few if any at all are seeking compensation. Some are very sexy and passable. I don't mind them coming over aa a dude, and dressing in my bathroom I prefer going to their places, but some are married or have roomates. Bottom line is that my wallet stays healthier this way.

[trish]

Question: Do you ask for a receipt?

[CORVETTEDUDE]

ANYBODY, that says they don't pay for it, is some way, shape or form....is a frickin' liar!!

[LI SEAN08]

so if that was directed at me, oh well..... u keep on doing it ur way then. Keep giving them money hungry filled with attitude tranny hookers ur paychecks. LOL YES..... I get mine from crossdressers that onbly are interested in having a good time and some dick!!!!

[CD_Sasha]

This thread is too funny. LOL @ Trish w/ the "do you ask for a receipt?"

[RallyCola]

so if that was directed at me, oh well..... u keep on doing it ur way then. Keep giving them money hungry filled with attitude tranny hookers ur paychecks. LOL YES..... I get mine from crossdressers that onbly are interested in having a good time and some dick!!!!

i have no interest in having sex with a man in a dress. yes, transwomen at some point had to start out just crossdressing but there is a vast difference between a man who dresses up in women's clothes for the purposes of sex and a person deciding that their birth gender is not who they really are.

now...i'm sure there are some men out there that live pay check to pay check and don't have two nickels to rub together in an interest baring account who still fork over cash to escorts...and i say the same thing to these people that i say to someone making a $500 a month car payment when they make $15-20/hr...you are an idiot for mismanaging your money but do what makes you happy. personally, the money i spend on escorts is of no consequence therefore for overall quality of the experience...that is how hot the girl is PLUS not having to invest in courting her PLUS doing near anything I want because I'm paying her, there is really no reason NOT to keep it business only and there is nothing that a crossdresser has that i want. plus i fuck passionately...so i don't need a wig falling off and ruining the mood. :)

i am not a trllionaire, but my time is, IMHO, far too valuable to waste on trying to hook up. i did that in high school and college and i'm done. i'm not going to court a television or playstation...i'm going to buy it. i'm not going to try to woo my steak dinner...i'm going to buy it. so when i want ass, i buy that too. its really simple. if there weren't sellers deserving of my money, it might be different, but i am also lucky enough to live in a city where there are more transwomen than i care to count, so its a buyers market...plain and simple.

[itsnotme]

hmmm transsexual escorts well i have been looking for a way to finally kill my self esteem

[BatMasterson]

I most definitely prefer to pay cash. In 2015 (especially in America), there is way too much bullshit that comes with sex with any woman. They're not worth the trouble and neither is any sexual escapade, therefore I much prefer to pay because the money negates any of the associated crap just like magic. You're not paying a 'working' woman for sex, you're paying her to go away afterwards. It's just a convenience charge and then she can buy things for herself or pay her rent and be independent and she doesn't have to deal with you either. Win/win when you pay for it.

MGTOW Forever

[Instrumental]

Free. Not into the whole escorting thing. Also not into the whole I'll fuck you if you pay for my dinner thing. I mean actual free as in we both enjoy sex so we don't need to monetize it in any way.

[fred41]

... Also not into the whole I'll fuck you if you pay for my dinner thing....

Hmmm..never really sure what this means. When I take a woman to dinner, it's because I want to enjoy her company with a meal out...good food, good conversation perhaps and something enjoyable to look at.

...if you think that's what you gotta do for sex, but your not into that, well...I've got to assume you've never taken anyone out to eat.
I couldn't have lived like that.
I can do that now , because I'm older and I've changed a bit and prefer to do most things alone... but not always eating.

[Instrumental]

Hmmm..never really sure what this means.

It means there are women who find it an affront to their sensibilities if you don't pay for their meal on a date and will lose interest in you. Not sure why you're explaining why you go out to dinner on dates.



...if you think that's what you gotta do for sex, but your not into that, well...I've got to assume you've never taken anyone out to eat.

This sentence seriously makes no sense, man.

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

ill ask my wallet that

or... at least the censored version of that

[gaysian71]

Question: Do you ask for a receipt?

He'll yes I do. That shit is tax deductible. it's therapy for me. It goes under medical expenses.

[holzz]

this kind of bravado is telling. TSs are a minority of the population, so finding one to date is hard. and who cares who pays for it or not? paying for it only ever is wrong imho if the guy has no other option and not truly oiut of choice, if that makes sense.