Who cares about politics and religion?

[mofungo]

As a sociology and philosophy student, I often wonder if there is any point in discussing such issues. Every quality humans possess can be represented by a 'bell-curve'. For example, a small percentage of humans are blind, a small percentage possess 20/20 vision; most of us fall somewhere on the bell-curve.

The same curve can map our political and theist biases. To argue politics or religion is akin to disputing our ability to see, walk, paint, or fuck. Some are zealots, some are lethargic, some are 'atheistic'. Argument won't change nature. So let's all accept difference and suck some tranny cock. ;-)

[tsafficianado]

my vision is 20/20, just had it tested last week
thanks for asking

[trish]

But argument has changed nature. Euclid’s thirteen volumes of geometric demonstrations are all argument, precise and pure. Without them, no mathematics, no Boolean logic, no universal Turing machines, no electronic computers, no internet, no HA forums, in particular no HA personals and consequently, no tranny cock to suck.

[ezed]

But argument has changed nature. Euclid’s thirteen volumes of geometric demonstrations are all argument, precise and pure. Without them, no mathematics, no Boolean logic, no universal Turing machines, no electronic computers, no internet, no HA forums, in particular no HA personals and consequently, no tranny cock to suck.

Trish! I love when you speak Boolean logic!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)

Fuck this thread....... And Liberals, TOO!

[LG]

Fuck this thread....... And Liberals, TOO!
What a nice person you are, TFan... :roll:

[trish]

i love gomez addams, i saved the pic. thanks ezed.

[chefmike]

Fuck this thread....... And Liberals, TOO!

Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, TFool. Just ask the chimp-in-chief that you grovel for.

[trish]

Watch who you fuck TFan, you might get our liberal cooties on you...they might burrow into you mind and twist your .....damn I was going to say "thoughts" but you don't have any. Damn you're smart!!

[mofungo]

But argument has changed nature. Euclid’s thirteen volumes of geometric demonstrations are all argument, precise and pure. Without them, no mathematics, no Boolean logic, no universal Turing machines, no electronic computers, no internet, no HA forums, in particular no HA personals and consequently, no tranny cock to suck.

Hi Trish. Do you think Euclid's work changed nature, or did it simply change our perception, and how we interact with nature?

As for "no tranny cock..." I don't want to think of such a world :wink:

Regarding TFan's comment. Here in Australia the Liberals are the Bush (and Howard) supporters... I don't think I'd like to fuck them.

[trish]

Without Euclid, there’s no science and no medicine. No medicine, no hormone treatments and no surgery and that spells no trannies and no tranny cock to suck.

More seriously, we ARE nature. Our artifacts are just as natural as nests and hives. Our perceptions are just as natural as a lion’s sleep or its predatory alertness. When we flit this way and that, that is nature flitting this way and that.

I knew you Australians have “up” and “down” reversed (I’ve seen the map with Australia “above” the equator and Europe “below”) but who would’ve guessed you also got “liberal” switched with something else as well??

[mofungo]

Without Euclid, there’s no science and ... no tranny cock to suck.

Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! :cry: :cry: :cry: :wink:

Seriously... Transsexuals in some form (intersexuals) have existed without science throughout history. In some cultures, people born intersexual were thought of as holy/godly beings.


More seriously ... Our artifacts are just as natural as nests and hives.

An interesting concept, Trish; though I would not claim that a personal computer is a 'natural' artifact, in that its production requires human interruption of natural processes. That is, computers do not occur in nature. I'm not saying you're wrong, of course; I'm simply questioning your proposition. I'm quite willing to agree with your position if your argument convinces me.


Our perceptions are just as natural as a lion’s sleep or its predatory alertness.

Agreed. But we must remind ourselves that our perceptions are not essentially correct. To say otherwise would imply that psychosis is rational.


I knew you Australians have “up” and “down” reversed (I’ve seen the map with Australia “above” the equator and Europe “below”)

And why not map ourselves as 'above' the equator? Once again, our perception of the orientation of earth is a controlled, human concept. That is, why think 'north' means 'up'?


but who would’ve guessed you also got “liberal” switched with something else as well??

Tell me about it! Our 'Liberal' party is the most conservative institution in Australia. Without getting on my soap-box, they're racist scum! Grumble grumble...

P.S. I like chatting with you, Trish :wink:

[trish]

The argument is simple once you agree to a natural assumption. Humans are part of nature and their actions neither interrupt nor interfere with the ordinary flow of events. Given that it’s easy to see that computers do occur in nature. The argument proceeds that since humans are part of nature, when humans change, nature also changes. This does not require that our perceptions be correct, only that they have effect and that their effect is entirely within the natural dynamic.

[mofungo]

I see your point, Trish. I'll have to think more about it before I can respond with any intelligent rebuttal. ;-)

[trish]

no hurry....i'm gonna be gone for a week...taking a much need vacation. catch ya later.

[mofungo]

Oh great! Just when I thought I was 'in'. :wink:

Seriously, I hope you have a great vacation.

[TJT]

The historian Michael Grant, has written extensively about the revolution in Greek thought in from 7th century BCE on. His books are widely available,well researched and a rare thing among historians,a pleasure to read. Any good library would have them.

Enough of the academics,it's bad for my image.