Congress Returns, Ready to Battle Bush

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Congress Returns, Ready to Battle Bush
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Jul 9, 3:23 AM (ET)

By LAURIE KELLMAN

(AP) President Bush and first lady Laura Bush, arrive at the White House from Camp David, Md., Sunday,...
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Congressmen returning from their Independence Day break are ready for battle with the White House, with Democrats decrying President Bush's commutation of former aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's prison sentence and fighting Bush's latest claim of executive privilege.

Both events occurred around Congress' vacation, inflaming an intense battle between Democrats and Bush over his use of executive power.

Several Democrat-led investigations are playing out this week as they head toward contempt of Congress citations and, if neither side yields, federal court:

_Monday is the deadline for the White House to explain why Bush is refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena for e-mails and other documents on his aides' involvement in the firings of eight federal prosecutors last winter. The White House is not expected to comply with the deadline.

_In a pair of hearings Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee will look at Bush's commutation last week of Libby's prison sentence for obstruction of justice in the CIA leak case. The Senate Judiciary Committee is expected to hear from former White House political director Sara Taylor about the prosecutor firings, according to Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

_The next day, the House panel is expected to turn to the prosecutor firings and has scheduled testimony from former White House Counsel Harriet Miers. It's unclear whether she will appear.

The weeklong summertime break did not cool the disputes. In fact, Bush's commutation of Libby's prison sentence teed up a new project for Democratic investigators.

Leahy and others said they suspect that Bush commuted Libby's sentence to keep Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff from revealing internal White House discussions.

So they are talking to the prosecutor in the CIA case, Patrick Fitzgerald, about testifying before Congress, several senators said Sunday.

(AP) President Bush, jokingly gestures as he poses for a photograph with visitors at the White House,...
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"I think you may very well see Mr. Fitzgerald before the Senate Judiciary Committee," Leahy said on CNN's "Late Edition."

Through White House Counsel Fred Fielding, Bush declared executive privilege on the documents subpoenaed by the committees. He argued that releasing them would damage the confidential nature of advice given the president. The Judiciary Committee chairmen demanded that the White House explain the decision more fully by Monday.

The Washington Post, citing unidentified sources, reported Sunday that Fielding was expected to tell lawmakers that he already has provided the legal basis for the executive privilege claims and does not intend to hand over the documentation sought.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, a senior Republican on Leahy's committee, defended the White House.

"There comes a point where the White House has to say, 'Hey, look there are certain confidential things in the White House that we're not going to share with Congress, just like there are certain confidential things in Congress that we're not going to share with the White House,'" Hatch, R-Utah, said on CBS'"Face the Nation."

Both Leahy and House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., have said they would move toward holding those named in the subpoenas in contempt of Congress if they do not comply.

[guyone]

The commies are going down. Back to the depths of hell from whence they came.

[White_Male_Canada]

The commies are going down. Back to the depths of hell from whence they came.

What were their approval ratings again, 19% ? Worst ever?

Yeah, that gives Congress the upper hand/sarc off.

They already launched about 300 investigations in about 100 days. What are they gonna do, investigate more?/sarc off

[trish]

Jesus, guyone, is every fuckin’ thing in the universe a Bolshevik or a freedom loving American? We’re all concerned for your health; your mental health. You might want to seek counseling.

[trish]

And those sorry approval ratings were due to the fact that (choose one)

1. They were so effectively standing up to Bush;

2. With minor fuss they were giving Bush every thing he wanted.

Think twice before you leap to the conclusion that a poor approval rating for Congress translates into support for Bush, his policies and blunders.

[Rogers]

Jesus, guyone, is every fuckin’ thing in the universe a Bolshevik or a freedom loving American? We’re all concerned for your health; your mental health. You might want to seek counseling.
I think it's clear to everyone that guyone knows jack shit about politics, and probably a lot more besides. Even I know who Jennifer Justice is, and I just got here. WTF is guyone and his fellow wingnut retard _Canada doing here, if they despise liberals so much? Are they just here to try and bring this board down with false accusations of pedophilia? Not only would guyone not know a real commie if he saw one, but he actually thinks Hitler (and no doubt Mussolini) were socialists. Well, I've four words for guyone on the latter of his claims, the Spanish Civil War. With his childish stupidity, he is effectively shitting on every man, woman and child who has died as a result of both Communism and Fascism everytime he claims Hitler was a socialist, and everytime he calls someone a commie who isn't one.

Some more words for guyone:
SHAME ON YOU! and,
GROW THE FUCK UP!

[White_Male_Canada]

And those sorry approval ratings were due to the fact that (choose one)

1. They were so effectively standing up to Bush;

2. With minor fuss they were giving Bush every thing he wanted.

Think twice before you leap to the conclusion that a poor approval rating for Congress translates into support for Bush, his policies and blunders.

According to the last NBC/WSJ poll Congress approval was 23% and Sen. Reid was down to 19% with the President polling higher.

So with all that mojo they got, looks like a winning strategy to chase their tails and end up running into Article II Section II like a brickwall.

It`s the usual cheap politicking to appease the kook base who only see conpsiracies, from Libby to 9/11 was an inside job like the burning of the Reichstag.

[White_Male_Canada]

I think it's clear to everyone that guyone knows jack shit about politics, and probably a lot more besides. Even I know who Jennifer Justice is, and I just got here. WTF is guyone and his fellow wingnut retard _Canada doing here, if they despise liberals so much? Are they just here to try and bring this board down with false accusations of pedophilia?

Your hyperbole is only outdone by your hysterics and histrionics.

After the mod edited the posts I hit the search function and typed in pedophile. Guess what? No precedent was set by myself.

Now, we know you`re all pining for an all exclusive left-wing P&R section. So, go complain and lobby for it cry babies. Who knows, maybe you`ll get your collective wish. Or maybe they`re Libertarian and your worst nightmare. 8)

[Rogers]

After the mod edited the posts I hit the search function and typed in pedophile. Guess what? No precedent was set by myself.
Edited? Don't you mean delete? There is absolutely no excuse for such an allegation here. No society can tolerate pedophilia, no matter how liberal or libertarian. Giving people who are not followers of alternative lifestyles reason to believe we tolerate pedophilia is the quickest way of making sure they clamp down on all of us, or are you too retarded to understand such a basic concept, White_Bitch_Crank?

The psychology of cranks
As noted above, in addition to a general lack of ability to accurately assess their own skills and knowledge, many cranks also exhibit deficiencies in reading comprehension, logical reasoning, and other cognitive abnormalities, which may contribute both to how they arrive at some bizarre counterfactual belief in the first place, and to how they are able to cling to such a belief in the face of all objections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_%28person%29#The_psychology_of_cranks

[guyone]

Hey Roger!

You Commie!

[White_Male_Canada]

Edited? Don't you mean delete? There is absolutely no excuse for such an allegation here. No society can tolerate pedophilia, no matter how liberal or libertarian. Giving people who are not followers of alternative lifestyles reason to believe we tolerate pedophilia is the quickest way of making sure they clamp down on all of us...

Edited, as you can see, I`ve replaced the Topics in original form and they have not been deleted.

Secondly, you know nothing. You just think you know.

FYI numbnuts, it had to do with legal issues. HA was covering their butts, ergo the edit.

Did someone threaten them or was it just an excuse, who knows. I do know a search of the term will still return old posts relating to pedophilia and it involves an veteran HA member.

[Rogers]

Your ability to twist and butcher the English lanuage never fails to amaze me, _Candy. Let's stick to the facts, I know that's hard for you being a serial liar and fraud after all, but let's try. To edit something means to change it. The threads with your accusations of pedophilia were deleted, i.e. removed. If you had replaced the actual threads that were deleted, there would be a thread over 70 pages long on the first or second page of this forum, or don't you remember things older than a week. There ain't! All you did was repost the topics, not replace the actual threads. Repost ain't the same thing as edit, numbnuts!

You were also warned that your actions were putting you in line for being banned. That thread has also been deleted, most likely because NYCe does not want such a situation to be out in the open for all to see for too long, because as I've already said, there is absolutely no excuse for such allegations here. No society can tolerate pedophilia, no matter how liberal or libertarian, and no matter which way you try and twist things, you were clearly in the wrong, so STFU!!!

The psychology of cranks
As noted above, in addition to a general lack of ability to accurately assess their own skills and knowledge, many cranks also exhibit deficiencies in reading comprehension, logical reasoning, and other cognitive abnormalities, which may contribute both to how they arrive at some bizarre counterfactual belief in the first place, and to how they are able to cling to such a belief in the face of all objections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_%28person%29#The_psychology_of_cranks

[guyone]

Why don't you tell that to the American Criminal Liberties Union.

[svenson]

Your ability to twist and butcher the English lanuage never fails to amaze me, _Candy. Let's stick to the facts, I know that's hard for you being a serial liar and fraud after all, but let's try. To edit something means to change it. The threads with your accusations of pedophilia were deleted, i.e. removed. If you had replaced the actual threads that were deleted, there would be a thread over 70 pages long on the first or second page of this forum, or don't you remember things older than a week. There ain't! All you did was repost the topics, not replace the actual threads. Repost ain't the same thing as edit, numbnuts!

You were also warned that your actions were putting you in line for being banned. That thread has also been deleted, most likely because NYCe does not want such a situation to be out in the open for all to see for too long, because as I've already said, there is absolutely no excuse for such allegations here. No society can tolerate pedophilia, no matter how liberal or libertarian, and no matter which way you try and twist things, you were clearly in the wrong, so STFU!!!

The psychology of cranks
As noted above, in addition to a general lack of ability to accurately assess their own skills and knowledge, many cranks also exhibit deficiencies in reading comprehension, logical reasoning, and other cognitive abnormalities, which may contribute both to how they arrive at some bizarre counterfactual belief in the first place, and to how they are able to cling to such a belief in the face of all objections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_%28person%29#The_psychology_of_cranks

white-male-canada cant tell the truth about things two of his threads arent replaced. mods deleted three and his fake bliskin account becvause of an cleer hoax. so so so sad a person

[White_Male_Canada]

You were also warned that your actions were putting you in line for being banned. That thread has also been deleted, most likely because NYCe does not want such a situation to be out in the open for all to see for too long, because as I've already said, there is absolutely no excuse for such allegations here. No society can tolerate pedophilia, no matter how liberal or libertarian, and no matter which way you try and twist things, you were clearly in the wrong, so STFU!!!


It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.

NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...

Obviously, being embarrassed over and over your whole life has hardened you to the point that you just don`t give a shit how bad you come off looking anymore.
Sheesh, what a life you must lead. :smh

[Rogers]

It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.
LMFAO!!! What, a KO punch like you landed on the two threads we've locked horns on so far? You're a deluded joke, seriously! I'm afraid for you that any punches you think you may have landed on me are all in your silly sissy mind.
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20400&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=21782&start=90


Obviously, being embarrassed over and over your whole life has hardened you to the point that you just don`t give a shit how bad you come off looking anymore.
Sheesh, what a life you must lead. :smh
More projection again, _Candy. From what I've seen in the short time I've been here, I think you've been embarassed more times on this forum than I've been embarassed in the whole of my life. Do I really need to post my, oops, Quinn's long list of quotes about you? That pantywaist quote by yourself alone is enough to condemn you (were you trolling other boards and got caught, or are you really a poofter?). You've embarassed yourself simply by thinking that I'm Quinn. So what real life is like for you, I dread to think. No wonder you're a deluded crank. Your need of psychological projection is clearly very strong. That's why you made up fake accounts on other boards for Quinn, specialk and svenson, because their signatures were clearly getting to you. To protect your fragile mind you had to deceive yourself, and try to deceive others, by trying to make it all look like a conspiracy against you, kooky. That's some of the craziest shit I've ever witnessed. And that's just been the last few weeks. You really do seem to have a tenuous grasp on reality at best. At the end of the day, I actually feel quite sorry for you. The amount of time you spend here alone is clear evidence that you ain't got much going on. And why you think you're some kind of news service for HA's is truly beyond me?

[qeuqheeg222]

the congress should go after rove or cheney because the public is really against these fat fucks...they have all time low approval ratings..why the hell not?..but the repugs know to stall this shit in court cases and appeals yeah like those presidential papers we are still tryin to get from 2001...stall till the stupid fuckin complacent consuming americans burp and forget about it..................

[guyone]

The bolsheviks in congress are going to find a nice big carbon footprint up their ass!

[White_Male_Canada]

What, a KO punch like you landed on the two threads we've locked horns on so far?

That the one where you claim but cannot substantiate in any way that the Antarctic polar vortex drives global mean temp? That one? Well, still waiting for proof. Is that the same one where I posted what, half a dozen studies and you posted one or two? Well, still waiting for you to provide the preponderance of evidence.And are you absolutely certain that James Hansen and NASA is your final answer? :lol:

It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.

NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...

What don`t you get in being absolutely wrong. Think the mods are gonna wade thru 50 pages of text and delete only the parts that worry them legally, or is it just easier to erase the whole thing and allow me to repost the original. Added to all that is the fact their house cleaning isn`t very efficient. A simple hit of the Search function reveals others held the opinion and, it`s still up there to be read.

It`s official.

WMC= 3

rogers= 0

[Rogers]

What, a KO punch like you landed on the two threads we've locked horns on so far?

That the one where you claim but cannot substantiate in any way that the Antarctic polar vortex drives global mean temp? That one? Well, still waiting for proof. Is that the same one where I posted what, half a dozen studies and you posted one or two? Well, still waiting for you to provide the preponderance of evidence.And are you absolutely certain that James Hansen and NASA is your final answer? :lol:

It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.

NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...

What don`t you get in being absolutely wrong. Think the mods are gonna wade thru 50 pages of text and delete only the parts that worry them legally, or is it just easier to erase the whole thing and allow me to repost the original.

It`s official.

WMC= 3

rogers= 0
Please feel free to post links to the 3 threads then, _Candy, and the quote where I say drive. And I see you've finally conceded that your threads with your accusations were deleted/erased! :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)


After the mod edited the posts...

The psychology of cranks/kooks
... many cranks also exhibit deficiencies in reading comprehension, logical reasoning, and other cognitive abnormalities, which may contribute both to how they arrive at some bizarre counterfactual belief in the first place, and to how they are able to cling to such a belief in the face of all objections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_%28person%29#The_psychology_of_cranks

[White_Male_Canada]

That the one where you claim but cannot substantiate in any way that the Antarctic polar vortex drives global mean temp? That one? Well, still waiting for proof. Is that the same one where I posted what, half a dozen studies and you posted one or two? Well, still waiting for you to provide the preponderance of evidence.And are you absolutely certain that James Hansen and NASA is your final answer? :lol:

It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.

NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...

What don`t you get in being absolutely wrong. Think the mods are gonna wade thru 50 pages of text and delete only the parts that worry them legally, or is it just easier to erase the whole thing and allow me to repost the original.

It`s official.

WMC= 3

rogers= 0


Please feel free to post links to the 3 threads then...



Cooling of the Antarctic... has lowered the global mean temperature.

[b] I`ve posted at least 4 to 6 researched documents that prove you`re full of shit. Now, I`m still waiting for you to provide any data that supports your opinion that Antarctic temps lower/drive the global mean.If it lowered the mean then it is in the driver`s seat dumkoff.
And do you still stand behind James Hansen of NASA?

That`s one.

Two, http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22692

Three,http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22619&start=10

Your opinion blown out of the water with facts:

It`s official, you do know nothing, you`re a kook and a complete ignoramus.So vapid and vacuous, you walked right into another KO punch.

NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...


Obviously, being embarrassed over and over your whole life has hardened you to the point that you just don`t give a shit how bad you come off looking anymore

WMC= 3

rogers= o

UPDATE It`s a complete shut-out 4 -zip.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22529

[b] "Waaaa-haa-haaa, let`s ban wmc. check his IP, track him down, post the results. Lets go back to the days when there was no libertarians, classical liberals, or conservatives in the P&R section. He`s a big meanie for making us look stupid and only us leftists are allowed to make accusations and hold opinions.

Sorry for complaining to you too much but we`re cybabies who can dish it out and carry taglines around full of accusations and opinions but we don`t want anybody doing likewise...waaa-haa-haa...we can`t take it."

[trish]

The bolsheviks in congress are going to find a nice big carbon footprint up their ass!

that's gonna be pretty boring to watch 'cause there are no bolsheviks in congress. wake up and learn a little history guyone.

[guyone]

Democrats = Bolsheviks

(or commies if you prefer)

[Rogers]

That the one where you claim but cannot substantiate in any way that the Antarctic polar vortex drives global mean temp? That one? Well, still waiting for proof.
Ah, the poof wants proof! Still no quote of me mentioning "drive", eh? And therefore another feeble attempt at putting words in my mouth, _Candy. Your reading comprehension is clearly very poor. This seems to be a problem with cranks like yourself. You may think lower and drive have the same meaning, but I'm afraid for you they don't, numbnuts. I'll use them in context in an example so that you can maybe understand one last time, retard: The Sun drives the Earth's weather, whereas increased volcanic activity will lower its temperature. Now, if you cannot understand that, _Candy, I suggest you go elsewhere to try and improve your reading comprehension, because I never planned on being a teacher to retards. It's far too time-consuming for one, and I'm off to sea in a couple of days. Like I said, you clearly have reading comprehension problems, retard:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:44 am Post subject:
Last edited by White_Male_Canada on Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:44 am; edited 5 times in total

Wow, edited 5 times over a period of an hour. Got nothing better to do with your time, _Candy, or are you just slow?


[b]Is that the same one where I posted what, half a dozen studies and you posted one or two? Well, still waiting for you to provide the preponderance of evidence. :lol:
Nope, you posted half a dozen references to try and prove the following:

You`re completely wrong, averaged over the past 40 years there has been a slight warming due to the mitigating factor that parts of the continent warmed
And I blasted your argument out of the water, or don't you remember?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=21782&start=90
I even saw a climate skeptic you might have heard of on the TV on Saturday, mentioning how the Antarctic had cooled. Of course, he never said that's it's most likely because of the hole in the ozone layer, i.e. man-made and artificial. But skeptics do seem to be generally low-down like that.


NYCe:


If this ban was based on opinion wouldn't you have been banned already?

This site already had legal issues...
You can spin it whatever way you like, _Candy. Your threads containing your accusations were deleted, and NYCe posted a warning. If NYCe told you something different, then how am I supposed to know what NYCe told you? I'm not a mind-reader. Have you thought that NYCe might be trying to keep both sides sweet just like a good peacekeeper would? Probably didn't think about that, eh _Candy? In your crazy eyes, you're perfect, and if you get in trouble it's because people are framing you, aren't they, kooky? You can dress it up and imply conspiracy stories all you like, _Candy, you ain't convincing me of jack shit. Why you think this implies some sort of moral victory on your behalf I really don't know, or care? The fact that you seem to believe this, only suggests that there is something really wrong with you. And if you do believe in God and Heaven, which you have led me to think, I really don't understand how you think you're going to make it there with the way you treat people. I'm crossing my fingers that you find out one way or another soon.


UPDATE It`s a complete shut-out 4 -zip.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22529
That thread had exactly the desired effects I had hoped for:
(1) I'm pretty sure now that no one here thinks I'm Quinn, even kooky you, and your false accusation was giving some people doubts on the General Discussion Board;
(2) It stands as a testament to just how crazy you are. Why did you think I added the quotes from other posters about you manipulating your posts, other than to make you look like the complete and utter shit you really are. I bet quite a few people have seen it now, eh kooky?;
(3) I'm a newb and no one gives a fuck about me, so people may understand that I don't know how things work here, but more shit has definitely stuck to you. After all, you would have been banned on any other board a long time ago.

Also, it was an IP check request for both myself and Quinn, and getting a check on your IP wasn't asked for:

"Waaaa-haa-haaa, let`s ban wmc. check his IP, track him down, post the results.
That's another clear indication that you are indeed paranoid. Feel free to check the thread again if you like, but your IP wasn't mentioned. :lol: And the signatures have gotten to you, haven't they, loosening an already unhinged mind even further, which explains what all the crazy shit you've pulled the last few weeks has been about:

[b]"... we`re cybabies who can dish it out and carry taglines around full of accusations and opinions but we don`t want anybody doing likewise...waaa-haa-haa...we can`t take it."
I really think no one here would give a shit about you, if it weren't for the way you treat others. You bring this shit on yourself, and no one is trying to frame you. Get some help, dudette.

Your need of psychological projection is clearly very strong. That's why you made up fake accounts on other boards for Quinn, specialk and svenson, because their signatures were clearly getting to you. To protect your fragile mind you had to deceive yourself, and try to deceive others, by trying to make it all look like a conspiracy against you, kooky.

Even if you had won four debates against me, which you haven't (and like I've said before, debating isn't about winning), there would still be the question of our first debate:
WM_Canada just got OWNED thanks to leftist scientist Al Gore
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20400&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90
But then your understanding of figures is probably just as bad as your understanding of words, not to mention your grasp on reality, eh kooky?