Death to Capitalism

[avrix]

Capitalism Should Die !!

Don't You Think???

[hondarobot]

I don't think so, I think there are many good points to Capitalism (depending on how you define that).

Oh, and I find it funny the girl in the picture has only 1 dollar bills stuck in her panties. I found a $20 bill yesterday just by moving a speaker cabinet.

True story.

Over and out.

[Realgirls4me]

Kill it? No. Unfortunately, among the many warts it has, one of them is that it will eventually consume itself.


One planet. Booming population. Finite resources. ...Do the math.

[hondarobot]

Kill it? No. Unfortunately, among the many warts it has, one of them is that it will eventually consume itself.


One planet. Booming population. Finite resources. ...Do the math.

I just had this argument with a girl at a bar today. I don't agree with this theory. Humanity is learning at an exponetial rate, we can prove to be the exception to the rule.

[Realgirls4me]

I don't share your optimism. ...Are we learning to preserve the planet at an exponential rate? Hardly.

[hondarobot]

Some people are. It's complicated, but it's not impossible.

[JelenaCD]

Well capitalism is the best system available right now , of course it is flawed yet that's the nature of the human condition , it's the best of all known systems by default !

[hondarobot]

Capitalism is based on greed and power. Accumulating money leads to a streamlined version of control over a persons enviroment.

Money, which is the basis of capitalism, is the realistic extension of "magic". It doesn't really matter how you get it, or why you get it, it works regardless of it's origin.

So what does money represent? Nothing really. The accumulation of it represents a shared idea that it actually does mean something. Obviously it doesn't. The more money a person has means they can buy two cheeseburgers as opposed to one, or none. The only reason that means anything is because people are willing to believe that.

On the other hand, if we didn't have money, what would be the basis of power? As far as it goes, it does seem effective in the long term. There are alterations to the system which should be made. It's an interesting question.

[JelenaCD]

Tell me Putin , Chavez and ahmadinejad are not bent on power and greed ? are you kidding ?

[JelenaCD]

power and greed is a human condition , all economic and political systems use power and greed , nothing to do with capitalism actually ! it's a condition of the heart !

[hondarobot]

Everyone is bent on power and greed. Well, except me.

Heh. I don't know if that's good or bad. I am pretty fucking smart, though.

:P

[SarahG]

Kill it? No. Unfortunately, among the many warts it has, one of them is that it will eventually consume itself.


One planet. Booming population. Finite resources. ...Do the math.

I just had this argument with a girl at a bar today. I don't agree with this theory. Humanity is learning at an exponetial rate, we can prove to be the exception to the rule.

But running out of resources could have the effect of scaring an animal thats backed into a corner.

As to greed- if humanity has certain known flaws (such as greed) then it is easy to design a system around those flaws... which capitalism does, hence how well it has done as far as economic models go.

Capitalism's success probably is not helped by the fact that the global economy is a market one... half the countries in the world could be noncapitolistic and yet... if one country is three times cheaper to buy sprockets from, you're gonna go to that country to trade with to obtain the sprockets you need.

[hondarobot]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Although if an honest examination of things is to be made, I don't understand what the answer is. I could just not visit this forum anymore. Easy enough.

I will say, she's definately a great kisser. So am I.

:)

[Balcanoid]

wow, people calm down...P&R is second door to the left...

[hondarobot]

People certainly do need to calm down, this thread stopped making any sense sometime last night.

Personally, I find examination of the merits of excess interesting (it relates to the capitalism topic in a round about way). I'm going out today and I'm going to eat a retardedly expensive steak. Because I want to.

If an amusing or interesting story results from this, it will posted later.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I'm going out today and I'm going to eat a retardedly expensive steak.


Oh, I see! You found a $20 bill yesterday...
That explains the mystery..

:wink:

[hondarobot]

People certainly do need to calm down, this thread stopped making any sense sometime last night.

Personally, I find examination of the merits of excess interesting (it relates to the capitalism topic in a round about way). I'm going out today and I'm going to eat a retardedly expensive steak. Because I want to.

If an amusing or interesting story results from this, it will posted later.

I ended up having a cheesburger at an Irish pub, and it was pretty damn good. The good steak joints were packed. I also had several beers and some mildly amusing conversation.

Prince is back in town tonight. Downtown is pretty crazy right now.

[Xiorc]

In the 50's and 60's Capitalism was the shit! America was an untouchable superpower and our economy was second to none. Simply because capitalism was encapsulated within the national boarder.
However in today's world when you outsource your economy to other "cheaper" countries you do create easier income for your nation but in the long term the people in the outsourced nation (our nation) have fewer and fewer job opportunities I/E little or no resources to but back into their (our) capitalist economy. If this trend continues you end up with a nation of unemployed people. And we all know what Zero times a 20 million equals!

[Xiorc]

In the 50's and 60's Capitalism was the shit! America was an untouchable superpower and our economy was second to none. Simply because capitalism was encapsulated within the national boarder.
However in today's world when you outsource your economy to other "cheaper" countries you do create easier income for your nation but in the long term the people in the outsourced nation (our nation) have fewer and fewer job opportunities I/E little or no resources to but back into their (our) capitalist economy. If this trend continues you end up with a nation of unemployed people. And we all know what Zero times a 20 million equals!

Thus and therefore the end of capitalism....or as we know it, the end of our lifestyle.

[tsmandy]

Free Market Capitalism only exists as an ideology, certainly never in practice. Unless somehow military conquest and state violence are an integral aspect of supply and demand.

Personally, I think capitalism is just one more bullshit outgrowth of midevil Europe that makes no sense as a way of meeting peoples needs. It does however, do an excellent job of making lords and serfs, masters and slaves, Kings and peasants.

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