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ps911fan
06-10-2007, 03:20 PM
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/02/1622/


A part of the article.....read it and weep...wingnuts....!

Rudy giuliani is a true American hero, and we know this because he does all the things we expect of heroes these days — like make $16 million a year, and lobby for Hugo Chávez and Rupert Murdoch, and promote wars without ever having served in the military, and hire a lawyer to call his second wife a “stuck pig,” and organize absurd, grandstanding pogroms against minor foreign artists, and generally drift through life being a shameless opportunist with an outsize ego who doesn’t even bother to conceal the fact that he’s had a hard-on for the presidency since he was in diapers. In the media age, we can’t have a hero humble enough to actually be one; what is needed is a tireless scoundrel, a cad willing to pose all day long for photos, who’ll accept $100,000 to talk about heroism for an hour, who has the balls to take a $2.7 million advance to write a book about himself called Leadership. That’s Rudy Giuliani. Our hero. And a perfect choice to uphold the legacy of George W. Bush.

Yes, Rudy is smarter than Bush. But his political strength — and he knows it — comes from America’s unrelenting passion for never bothering to take that extra step to figure shit out. If you think you know it all already, Rudy agrees with you. And if anyone tries to tell you differently, they’re probably traitors, and Rudy, well, he’ll keep an eye on ‘em for you. Just like Bush, Rudy appeals to the couch-bound bully in all of us, and part of the allure of his campaign is the promise to put the Pentagon and the power of the White House at that bully’s disposal.

Rudy’s attack against Ron Paul in the debate was a classic example of that kind of politics, a Rovian masterstroke. The wizened Paul, a grandfather seventeen times over who is running for the Republican nomination at least 100 years too late, was making a simple isolationist argument, suggesting that our lengthy involvement in Middle Eastern affairs — in particular our bombing of Iraq in the 1990s — was part of the terrorists’ rationale in attacking us.

Though a controversial statement for a Republican politician to make, it was hardly refutable from a factual standpoint — after all, Osama bin Laden himself cited America’s treatment of Iraq in his 1996 declaration of war. Giuliani surely knew this, but he jumped all over Paul anyway, demanding that Paul take his comment back. “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that before,” he hissed, “and I’ve heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th.”

It was like the new convict who comes into prison the first day and punches the weakest guy in the cafeteria in the teeth, and the Southern crowd exploded in raucous applause. Coupled with yet another implosion by aneurysm-in-waiting John McCain a few days later (”Fuck you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room!” McCain screamed at a fellow senator during a meeting about immigration), the Ron Paul ass-whipping revived Giuliani’s standing among conservatives who lately had begun to abandon him over his pro-choice status.

The Paul incident went to the very heart of who Giuliani is as a politician. To the extent that conservatism in the Bush years has morphed into a celebration of mindless patriotism and the paranoid witch-hunting of liberals and other dissenters, Rudy seems the most anxious of any Republican candidate to take up that mantle. Like Bush, Rudy has repeatedly shown that he has no problem lumping his enemies in with “the terrorists” if that’s what it takes to get over. When the 9/11 Commission raised criticisms of his fire department, for instance, Giuliani put the bipartisan panel in its place for daring to question his leadership. “Our anger,” he declared, “should clearly be directed at one source and one source alone — the terrorists who killed our loved ones.”

White_Male_Canada
06-10-2007, 07:12 PM
Huh? People actually read, let alone believe, what they read at commondreams ? Common dreams, even the name is collectivist in nature.

Rudy isn`t really conservative. A front runner, but the base is waiting for a Reagan Conservative to step in, talk sommon sense in a plain language and steal the nomination.

guyone
06-10-2007, 07:51 PM
When has a bolshevik been jailed in this country for his/her ideas?

TJT
06-10-2007, 09:29 PM
The govt. jailed and deported a bunch of 'em back in 1919/1920 during the great Red Scare.

Cuchulain
06-10-2007, 09:44 PM
" the base is waiting for a Reagan Conservative to step in, talk sommon sense in a plain language and steal the nomination."

Reagan? LOL! Not to hijack the thread, but ol' Ronnie Raygun was more corrupt than Nixon.

http://www.rise4news.net/Reagan_War_Crimes.html

The International Conference on the Reagan administration’s foreign policy convened in Brussels from 28-30 September, 1984 under the auspices of the International Progress Organization. Reports were submitted by international jurists and foreign policy specialists on the various aspects of the Reagan administration’s foreign policy.

Conclusion

21. United Nations Action. From the foregoing, it is clear that the Reagan administration has substituted force for the rule of international law in its conduct of foreign policy around the world. It has thus created a serious threat to the maintenance of international peace and security under article 39 of the United Nations Charter that calls for the imposition of enforcement measures by the UN Security Council under articles 41 and 42. In the event the Reagan administration exercises its veto power against the adoption of such measures by the Security Council, the matter should be turned over the to UN General assembly for action in accordance with the procedures set forth in the Uniting for Peace Resolution of 1950. In this way the Reagan administration’s grievous international transgressions could be effectively opposed by all members of the world community in a manner consistent with the requirements of international law.

Both the Security Council and the General Assembly should also take into account the numerous interventionist measures taken by the Reagan Administration, whether direct or indirect, seeking to impose financial and economic policies which are contrary to the sovereign independence of states, especially in the developing world, and which severely damage the quality of life for all peoples.

The massive (but under-reported)
Reagan Administration Corruption

Contrast that to the great numbers of the Republican administration of Ronald Reagan who were not just charged, but were found guilty, but which most Americans don't remember because the so-called "Liberal media" rarely, if ever, make any mention of them. See the actual names & crimes below.

http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html

chefmike
06-10-2007, 11:20 PM
The GOP is desperately hoping that Hollywood will save their sorry asses once again. That's no surprise, as the repugs are the party of Hollywood...

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=19674

guyone
06-11-2007, 06:08 AM
The govt. jailed and deported a bunch of 'em back in 1919/1920 during the great Red Scare.

They were probably a bunch of illegal immigrants.


And since the 1920's...?

The only Thought Crime on the books is the current hate crime legislation.


(and now for a clever personal insult I turn to ChefMike.)

qeuqheeg222
06-11-2007, 07:49 AM
yeah them grand gay ol pederasts are hopin this here actor/senator freddy thompson can save their asses..newt has that infidelity thing so his ass cant run plus i dont think"pres.newt"would go over well in the international community...