Conservatives say Shrek 3 promotes "sexual chaos"

[LG]

I haven't seen Shrek The Third, but I found the other two hilarious. I didn't see them as promoting transgenderism, but was a little peeved that the transgender character couldn't be made a little more feminine and pretty (and stubble free). But some people think that the Shrek movies will lead us to sexual chaos. Read on:

From the Illinois Review

Shrek's not the problem. It's the awkward inclusion of a transvestite and the uselessness of the character himself (herself?) in the story that is troubling.

Right in the midst of a warm "traditional family" setting, the film writers place a man dressed as a woman in with Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Snow White (the good gals). The crossdressing character simply doesn't make sense, except as a ploy to desensitize children and parents to transgenders.

Homosexual activists now are careful to not only use the term "LGBTs" as a unit, they are more boldly now declaring lesbians-gays-bisexuals-transgenders as a unit pushing together as one for civil rights. Those confused about their sexual roles are pushing for equal rights to be free to publicly demonstrate their odd sexual behavior. For transgenders, appearing to be a different sex in public is their particular turn on. We need to understand that acceptance of this sexual behavior is just another step moving our world toward sexual chaos.

It's disturbing there's not more outcry about this sly tactic being used in a movie made for children. But I suppose after being reminded this week of Jerry Falwell's concern about the Teletubbies characters' sexual orientations and the post-heaven going ridicule and hatred those who dare to question LGBTs tactics are likely to endure in the mainstream media after their passing, some have shyed away from publicly tackling the topic. That's understandable.

But well-meaning parents who plan to take their kids to see a movie that grossed $122 million in the opening weekend should be aware . . . it's the subtlety of the movie makers' agenda to desensitize that could be more harmful to your children than encouraging them to eat sugary cereals in the morning.

Not long ago, conservative and religious groups were complaining about the second installment. The Traditional Values Coalition noted:

Parents who are thinking about taking their children to see "Shrek 2," may wish to consider the following: The movie features a male-to-female transgender (in transition) as an evil bartender. The character has five o'clock shadow, wears a dress and has female breasts. It is clear that he is a she-male. His voice is that of talk show host Larry King.

During a dance scene at the end of the movie, this transgendered man expresses sexual desire for Prince Charming, jumps on him, and both tumble to the floor.

In another scene in the movie, Shrek and Donkey need to be rescued from a dungeon where they are chained against the wall. The rescue is conducted by Pinocchio who is asked to lie so his nose will grow long enough for one of the smaller cartoon characters to use it as a bridge to reach Shrek and Donkey. Donkey encourages him to lie about something and suggests he lie about wearing women's underwear. When he denies wearing women's underwear, his nose begins to grow.

An earlier scene in the movie features a wolf dressed in grandma's clothing and reading a book when Prince Charming encounters him. Later, one of the characters refers to the wolf's gender confusion.

TVC's report, "A Gender Identity Disorder Goes Mainstream," explains the transgender agenda and the effort to deconstruct the biological reality of male and female. DreamWorks is helping in this effort by promoting cross dressing and transgenderism in this animated film.

:what

Looks like someone's been hogging the cup of wine during Communion. What do you all think?

[SkyTwo]

What is it about cartoons-- cartoons!-- that causes right-wingers to go into a gay panic? How does that even occur to someone, much less cause the intense mental exercise that results in claims of a nationwide conspiracy to "deconstruct gender?"

I'll see your :what and raise you a :screwy

[Solitary Brother]

Thank you for tell us this info.
I for one would NEVER cavort with trannys and I am boycotting this hideous movie!

[LG]

Thank you for tell us this info.
I for one would NEVER cavort with trannys and I am boycotting this hideous movie!

:lol:

[Kriss]

"TRANSGENDER AGENDA"?????

now that's just BAD english.

[Fox]

lolconservatives

[LG]

lolconservatives
You should have a look into the Politics forum on these boards sometime. You'll laugh till you puke (or maybe just puke without laughing).
:shrug

[peggygee]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

[Realgirls4me]

I guess it's time to go support Shrek the Third. :)

[Silcc69]

I don't even know what Shrek is about.

[Realgirls4me]

I don't even know what Shrek is about.

Well, that makes two of us then ... Shall I spring for the popcorn and Coke, by the way?


:)

[whatislove]

Actually only based on the Pinocchio/Donkey story I say it's not age appropriate for the suggested toddler to young child audience.

Pinocchio wears womens underwear? How does a 5 yo benefit from that "knowledge" either humor wise or entertainment or anything....

The baggage that is behind that statement is huge, and none of it is age appropriate. Stealing a cookie, writing on a wall, hiding your brothers toy, etc are age appropriate examples.

[Kriss]

Actually only based on the Pinocchio/Donkey story I say it's not age appropriate for the suggested toddler to young child audience.

Pinocchio wears womens underwear? How does a 5 yo benefit from that "knowledge" either humor wise or entertainment or anything....

The baggage that is behind that statement is huge, and none of it is age appropriate. Stealing a cookie, writing on a wall, hiding your brothers toy, etc are age appropriate examples.

You are reading way too much into it. "benefit"?? To be honest i think a lot of that humour goes over the head of the average 5 year old. Thesejokes are probably included so that parents don't die of boredom in the cinema.
I had a religious freind (real nutcase)who wouldn't let his kids watch the simpsons. "simpsons isn't a family show" he would say. I really don't think kids get those adult jokes. I never did when i was a kid.

[muhmuh]

Pinocchio wears womens underwear? How does a 5 yo benefit from that "knowledge" either humor wise or entertainment or anything....

every well done kids movie will have a few gags that go whoosh above a kids head without them noticing in the least to keep the poor parent who has to sit though it with the kids entertained

reminds me of the gay mouse scanal in german kids programming... difference is though that its an inet joke
http://www.wolles-website.de/bloedsinn_maus/maus.gif

from my standpoint i cant do anything else than shake my head how a country as a whole can be so stupidly homo and transphobic

[whatsupwithat]

Someone better tell Bugs Bunny!

[LG]

Actually only based on the Pinocchio/Donkey story I say it's not age appropriate for the suggested toddler to young child audience.

Pinocchio wears womens underwear? How does a 5 yo benefit from that "knowledge" either humor wise or entertainment or anything....

The baggage that is behind that statement is huge, and none of it is age appropriate. Stealing a cookie, writing on a wall, hiding your brothers toy, etc are age appropriate examples.

The Shrek movies are rated PG meaning that Parental Guidance is suggested and that "Some material may not be suitable for children". This gives parent's an indication of whether they should take a young kid to a movie, but it still does not stop children from going to see the movie without a parent or guardian (I understand that this would require an R rating).

A long time ago, the rating that cover this category was M (For mature audiences) which was then changed to GP and finally PG. For a live-action film PG is often seen as box-office poison and sometimes filmmakers will include a few dirty words just to get it up to PG-13 and a 12 or even 15 rating in the UK. For a family movie or a kids film PG was once verging on unacceptable- the Toy Story films were both rated G, which means they are suitable for all- but now many animated features get this rating.

I always thought of the Shrek films as cartoons for grown-ups anyway. A lot of the material a kid will simply not get. Many of the jokes will go straight over their head, whereas adults will find some of the more risque jokes hilarious.

There's a fourth installment in the pipeline and even reports of a fifth Sherk film.

[LG]

Someone better tell Bugs Bunny!

Well, Elmer liked him...



Do you think Elmer was a trannychaser? :lol:

[Fox]

lolconservatives
You should have a look into the Politics forum on these boards sometime. You'll laugh till you puke (or maybe just puke without laughing).
:shrug

Don't I know it, lol.

And I agree about Shrek being more for teens/adults. Just cause it's animated doesn't mean it's for kids. It reminds of parents being outraged over Doom, Mortal Kombat, GTA, etc. because they're video games. Forget about the fact that parents should be screening what their kids see/interact with. :?

[Vala_TS]

Wow! I never thought about seeing either of those 2 movies until today! That's good. I saw the 1st Shrek but that was back when I was younger and more into that sort of stuff.

What about all of the Tom and Jerry scenes where male (animals) kiss other males or the cat dresses up as a woman? How come nobody every complained about that? I'd say that promotes the LGBT as well.

Vala,

[BlackAdder]

YES....i IMMEDIATELY felt like putting on a corset right after I saw this movie..

In fact, i had to be restrained from changing right there in the thearter...wow...what an IMPACT this movie made on my life...shew...changed my view of the world, it did...

[whatislove]

I thought they were G movies, I retract my statement.

Regarding Bugs, et al. I think that goes back to a theatre comedy drag history, shakespeare, flip wilson, milton berle.

Wearing womens underwear is a sexual fetish if your male.

It's a strong distinction.



Actually only based on the Pinocchio/Donkey story I say it's not age appropriate for the suggested toddler to young child audience.

Pinocchio wears womens underwear? How does a 5 yo benefit from that "knowledge" either humor wise or entertainment or anything....

The baggage that is behind that statement is huge, and none of it is age appropriate. Stealing a cookie, writing on a wall, hiding your brothers toy, etc are age appropriate examples.

The Shrek movies are rated PG meaning that Parental Guidance is suggested and that "Some material may not be suitable for children". This gives parent's an indication of whether they should take a young kid to a movie, but it still does not stop children from going to see the movie without a parent or guardian (I understand that this would require an R rating).

A long time ago, the rating that cover this category was M (For mature audiences) which was then changed to GP and finally PG. For a live-action film PG is often seen as box-office poison and sometimes filmmakers will include a few dirty words just to get it up to PG-13 and a 12 or even 15 rating in the UK. For a family movie or a kids film PG was once verging on unacceptable- the Toy Story films were both rated G, which means they are suitable for all- but now many animated features get this rating.

I always thought of the Shrek films as cartoons for grown-ups anyway. A lot of the material a kid will simply not get. Many of the jokes will go straight over their head, whereas adults will find some of the more risque jokes hilarious.

There's a fourth installment in the pipeline and even reports of a fifth Sherk film.

[whatsupwithat]

I thought they were G movies, I retract my statement.

Regarding Bugs, et al. I think that goes back to a theatre comedy drag history, shakespeare, flip wilson, milton berle.

Wearing womens underwear is a sexual fetish if your male.

It's a strong distinction.



So, when Bug gets dressed up and makes moves on Elmer et al, stroking them, cooing in their ear, getting all sexual?

Come on, man.

Transgenderism is here to stay and it's going to be more and more visible. And more and more a part of what society likes to say is "normal". It's about time people freakin' understood that. It's not going away. This is it. Deal with it, America. Just about every other civilized country has.

[alpha2117]

The strange thing is the character is not even neccesarily meant to be transgender - it's the ugly stepsister character. The fact that it was voiced by Larry King and it has a 5 o'clock shadow is part of the joke.

I wonder if we should point out Bart Simpson is actually a girl to these people.

[francisfkudrow]

"TRANSGENDER AGENDA"?????

now that's just BAD english.

Kind of hard to say if you're drunk. They should shorten it to "Transgenda".

[whatsupwithat]

The strange thing is the character is not even neccesarily meant to be transgender - it's the ugly stepsister character. The fact that it was voiced by Larry King and it has a 5 o'clock shadow is part of the joke.

I wonder if we should point out Bart Simpson is actually a girl to these people.

these people lost their sense of humor a long time ago.

[scroller]

What truly takes the cake is the part where they're upset that "an earlier scene in the movie features a wolf dressed in grandma's clothing..."

Aren't they like, about 700 years late on that story? (Re: French La finta nonna, The False Grandmother, from the 14th century: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_red_riding_hood#Pre-Perrault )?

[LG]

"TRANSGENDER AGENDA"?????

now that's just BAD english.

Kind of hard to say if you're drunk. They should shorten it to "Transgenda".

That's a good one. I like that. I'm all for promoting the Transgenda. :lol:

[SkyTwo]

"TRANSGENDER AGENDA"?????

now that's just BAD english.

Kind of hard to say if you're drunk. They should shorten it to "Transgenda".

:lol:

[trish]

We need to understand that acceptance of this sexual behavior So what’s to accept?…that’s what I want to know. What does it mean not to accept this behavior? We already can’t get married or enter civil unions in most states. So what manner of unacceptance do they want to see, stoning, beating, stocks…what? The fundamentalist right wingers are soooo fucking sexually repressed they think about every thing in terms of sex. They see innuendo everywhere…like the producers of Shrek are out to pervert the sexual orientation of five year olds…give me a break. However, not even my ex-boyfriends lay in bed at night thinking about what’s going on in my bedroom…it’s nice to know the editors of the Illinois Review do. Ya think I should send them some pictures?

[BeardedOne]

It's clear that this maroon (Ignoranimous, I say!) does not get the =UGLY= stepsister gag.

And Pinnochio?

"It's a =THONG!="

"No it's =NOT=!" *SPROING!*

Fucking priceless! :lol: :lol:

C'mon, do the math. Do you think five-year olds are forking out that $122 million? Not bloody likely. The film series, while pandered to kids, is clearly aimed at an adult audience, desperately wanting to escape from the house but with kids-in-tow. The kids watch the funny animals while the adults enjoy the humor.

G ratings are pure death to box office receipts. This is why Disney founded Touchstone Pictures to market the PG titles (Highly profitable, but removed from the all-G Disney profile).

Hunh. I thought humorectomies went out with lobotomies and forced sterilization.

Maybe they just sterilized the wrong people. :x