TS escorts who are racist

[kocconutz]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist. There is one TS escort named TS Siara who operates around NY/NJ.
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/ny-missd1-siara1.htm
I called her twice. Both times she hung up on me just because I said I was black. She didn't even give a reason. I mean, not all of us are thugs or gangstas, especially the ones (like myself) who like transexual/transgendered women. I definitely think that all TS escorts should give every person of any race a fair chance, especially since they are getting paid for their time and services. I don't know, maybe she had a bad experience or something, but she didn't even post what race she perfers to escort for in her ad. If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind. Please post up any other TS escorts, who seems the same way, hopefully there is only a few of them out there.

[TJ347]

I dare not comment on this one... :anon

[MrsKellyPierce]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

[TJ347]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

:anon :roll:

[kocconutz]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.Well hopefully, it was just that. If so, I don't mind, I just wish she said that. She didn't give a clear reason. Just that she doesn't do black guys.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.Well hopefully, it was just that. If so, I don't mind, I just wish she said that. She didn't give a clear reason. Just that she doesn't do black guys. Well I'm not exactly sure of her reasoning, but thats why some girls feel that way.

[TJ347]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.Well hopefully, it was just that. If so, I don't mind, I just wish she said that. She didn't give a clear reason. Just that she doesn't do black guys.

Doesn't get much "clearer" than that, friend. And please don't buy into this "bone structure/eye color" crap. There isn't one ethnic group on the planet that has identical bone structures and eye color across the entire group, so that's obvious nonsense that some use to get around calling it what it is... and that's not being attracted to certain racial groups. If you're not attracted to specific groups, then say so. But don't say so and then backtrack and try to go with a "bone structure" defense, as that insults the intelligence of anyone who knows enough to come in out of the rain.

[Fox]

Her loss.

[south ov da border]

Her loss.
I 2nd that...

[Mac_Hine]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.

[Perverted Monk]

Ain't even got do all that.

Before you even get on the phone, easiest thing to do is shoot them an email asking them if they see Black clients. Works for me.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

1st off welcome to the board, Secondly this is a good post and you've gotten some good replies, I want to suggest to you the addition of the search function because this has been discussed before, not recently but at least 2 years ago............ I'd like to add this: you live in the tri-state area, TRUST ME for every chick you deem racist or think has issues with someone of another nationality there are literally 9 other chicks that are usually hotter that WILL give you the time of day.

[TJ347]

Ain't even got do all that.

Before you even get on the phone, easiest thing to do is shoot them an email asking them if they see Black clients. Works for me.

Has it really come to that now? I mean, I've asked them different things, relating to what they will and won't do and for how much they'll do this or that, but has it really come to where I need to ask them if it's alright if I'm black? Wow...

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Ain't even got do all that.

Before you even get on the phone, easiest thing to do is shoot them an email asking them if they see Black clients. Works for me.

Has it really come to that now? I mean, I've asked them different things, relating to what they will and won't do and for how much they'll do this or that, but has it really come to where I need to ask them if it's alright if I'm black? Wow...

to be honest it's always been like that, there are some chicks that play the race card, they always will, is it fucked up: sure it is, but that's life........
while many of us see it as a negative I also look at it like this: alot of those chicks aren't turning you down for fear of drug dealer/thug mentality, they are turning you down because in their minds after you get done with them every other client will just be fucking a cavernous hole for the next day or so

[TJ347]

Ain't even got do all that.

Before you even get on the phone, easiest thing to do is shoot them an email asking them if they see Black clients. Works for me.

Has it really come to that now? I mean, I've asked them different things, relating to what they will and won't do and for how much they'll do this or that, but has it really come to where I need to ask them if it's alright if I'm black? Wow...

to be honest it's always been like that, there are some chicks that play the race card, they always will, is it fucked up: sure it is, but that's life........
while many of us see it as a negative I also look at it like this: alot of those chicks aren't turning you down for fear of drug dealer/thug mentality, they are turning you down because in their minds after you get done with them every other client will just be fucking a cavernous hole for the next day or so

Hadn't thought of it quite that way... :lol:

[timxxx]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist
You don't say
The only thing that surprise me is that you're surprised.Just move on


If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind.
Unfortally, it's still OK to be a racist but it seen as uncool & lower class to admit to being a racist.


Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

the KKK aren't racist they just don't like the bone structure and eye color of some people. DUMB ASS

[NiceBod]

Of course there are plenty of other escorts to choose from but I think some guys will take the rejection personal and then keep calling, maybe even trying to trick the ho into seeing him or using some tactic to waste her time/get even. Yea, these clients can be like that. An escort who wants to get her sessions over as soon as possible will probably view a black man as someone who's gonna want to stay the whole hour...really get his money's worth. A lot of the girls prefer an older white man who is easy to please and cums fast. This is what I've heard.

Another theory I heard in a Vietnam flick was, "Black man too beaucoup."

[TJ347]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist
You don't say
The only thing that surprise me is that you're surprised.Just move on


If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind.
Unfortally, it's still OK to be a racist but it seen as uncool & lower class to admit to being a racist.


Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

the KKK aren't racist they just don't like the bone structure and eye color of some people. DUMB ASS

And that's what I've been saying all along! "People always make it a skin issue when a lot of time it has to do with bone structure and eye color..." TTB!!!

[peggygee]

People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

I'm going to sit this dance out, and just observe the thread.

But I'm sorry Kelly that dog won't hunt. :smh





.....while many of us see it as a negative I also look at it like this: alot of those chicks aren't turning you down for fear of drug dealer/thug mentality, they are turning you down because in their minds after you get done with them every other client will just be fucking a cavernous hole for the next day or so



And I'm not going there either with the above statement, other than to
say Johnny you are too much, in all senses of the word.

Not that I know first hand. :wink:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

.....while many of us see it as a negative I also look at it like this: alot of those chicks aren't turning you down for fear of drug dealer/thug mentality, they are turning you down because in their minds after you get done with them every other client will just be fucking a cavernous hole for the next day or so



And I'm not going there either with the above statement, other than to
say Johnny you are too much, in all senses of the word.

Not that I know first hand. :wink:

Look Peggy someone had to say it, LMAO
I'm just reiterating something I've been told several times by GG's & TS'
and Kelly...................................
my bone structure and eye color have never been a reason for a chick outside my nationality to say "you aint puttin that in me"
;)

[TsVanessa69]

How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:
tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men

[Fox]

lol bone structure. That's creative.

[Jericho]

A lot of the girls prefer an older white man who is easy to please and cums fast. This is what I've heard.


As an older white man, i feel it my duty to dispel this foul myth...With age comes control!!! :lol: :P :lol:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I can't find sexychanel on eros so please post a pic

but those are my FAVORITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE IT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY 90% of them CHANGE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had this black chick approach me at a monthly a few months back, I've known her for years, she gave me the "Oh I don't usually talk to Black guys" bullshit speech yet she was groping me like I was a dancer at Chippendales. Years later she sees me at Vapor and is kicking it again, walking away from a Caucasian guy whom I guess wasn't interested. Her line that night "look you're getting older, I'm getting older, let's do this" I just politely walked away.

I've also had Latina chicks do the same thing, it is what it is...............but when they change up and wanna fuck I LAUGH MY ASS OFF...............

best Latina story I'll say quickly because I know the heathen is reading this even though she isnt logged onto the board:

Chick asked me to take her home, she's not one to really give a Black guy the time of day, and when I turned her down sexually in her apartment building she got mad, started whining and smacked herself TWICE in the face...........................

JWBL™

[TJ347]

I can't find sexychanel on eros so please post a pic

but those are my FAVORITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE IT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY 90% of them CHANGE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had this black chick approach me at a monthly a few months back, I've known her for years, she gave me the "Oh I don't usually talk to Black guys" bullshit speech yet she was groping me like I was a dancer at Chippendales. Years later she sees me at Vapor and is kicking it again, walking away from a Caucasian guy whom I guess wasn't interested. Her line that night "look you're getting older, I'm getting older, let's do this" I just politely walked away.

I've also had Latina chicks do the same thing, it is what it is...............but when they change up and wanna fuck I LAUGH MY ASS OFF...............

best Latina story I'll say quickly because I know the heathen is reading this even though she isnt logged onto the board:

Chick asked me to take her home, she's not one to really give a Black guy the time of day, and when I turned her down sexually in her apartment building she got mad, started whining and smacked herself TWICE in the face...........................

JWBL™

That Latina story is some funny shit! Interestingly, I've never had any issue with a girl over anything racial. Guess I'll count myself luck in that regard.

[TsVanessa69]

[quote="JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel"][b]I can't find sexychanel on eros so please post a pic

She has a hung angel profile, and has made a few postings here

[MrSecretAgent]

Like I've stated before I'm definitely not racist in any way and have several black friends (guys and girls).

There is a big difference between racism and sexual likes/dislikes.

Personally I'm not sexually attracted to arab and black girls. I don't know why......

I actually find it very abusive that you claim that you're a racist if are not sexually attracted to black people.

To put it on the edge it like saying that you're a dog-hater if you don't want to fuck a german shepherd ;) (Joke if you didn't get that)

Jumping into my fireproof suit and waiting for the flaming to begin. ;)

[adameast]

If she does not want to date you because you are black, that does not make her racist.

She has the right to choose who she spends her time with. But, if she wont go out with you. I will. Im a 40ish balding pudgy white male. Now, if you refuse, does that make you a racist or do u just not like men. Then you are a homophobe.

She has the right to determine who she provides her service to.

Qut being so paranoid and think everytime you dont get something it is because of your skin color.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

not for nothing Vanessa, and thanks brotha U for the links, but IF she told me she wasn't into Black guys I wouldn't be upset at all

[tsntx]

escorts have every much of right to be picky about their clients as their clients have the right to see other girls...

dont like getting turned down? sure its a blow to your ego but really in the long run... big flipping deal.

move on and take your money elsewhere... the way i see it if someone could make a whole thread blasting a girl, that doesnt even post on this site, then who knows what that person would do in person when the provider isnt willing to do EVERYTHING said client wants... she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

[hwbs]

ill sum this up real quick for ya....ive heard alot of girls that do this kind of thing...a lot of those same girls are mostly with black guys when i see them out at vapor and other bars...

[hwbs]

quote: Chick asked me to take her home, she's not one to really give a Black guy the time of day, and when I turned her down sexually in her apartment building she got mad, started whining and smacked herself TWICE in the face...........................




come on bro u know shes still trying....cant believe she was nice to me last time i saw her , lmao

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LOL, last time I was with perfect titties she sat next to us and said "How come you don't like me?" and I told her flat out "because you're a bitch"

[hwbs]

must of been right b4 i :puke

[tsntx]

she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

Yes, but if she post this information up front ahead of time on her ad or what-ever page, then it wouldn't be an issue for most of the blacks or what ever other ethnic background that seeks interest.

*I'm not in to escorts, just stating from a rejection point of view.*


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

[kocconutz]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist

You don't say
The only thing that surprise me is that you're surprised.Just move on

Of course I'm a bit surprised, that is why I started the topic. I didn't know that there was certain transexual escorts who have color boundaries.


If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind.

Unfortally, it's still OK to be a racist but it seen as uncool & lower class to admit to being a racist..

You mean (Unfortunately), and NO that is not what I meant. I don't think racism is OK at all. It is unfortunate that racisim and bigotry still exists, but I understand that you can't change certain people's minds on what type of races and sexual orientations they want to be around. What I meant to say was that in Siara's ad, it implies that she will accept ANY respectful gentlemen who gives her a call. This was misleading because when I called her and asked for a session, she immediately asked what was my race. As soon as I said I was black, she said "No Thank You" and then hung up. Pretty Foul. Now if she wrote in her ad previously that she only deals with certain races, or that she doesn't do black guys, I would've MOVED ON from the start. Instead I felt mislead by her, just because I'm of a certain race.


Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.


the KKK aren't racist they just don't like the bone structure and eye color of some people. DUMB ASS

Aint no reason to hate on Kelly just because she wants to speak on her mind on the issue. Anyhow what you wrote was over-exaggerated and anyone who is reading this post understands that she wasn't implying that.

Okay XXX Tim, or Tim XXX, decent replies. Now do you have anything intelligent to bring to this topic, or anything from personal experience.

[Killah]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist. There is one TS escort named TS Siara who operates around NY/NJ.
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/ny-missd1-siara1.htm
I called her twice. Both times she hung up on me just because I said I was black. She didn't even give a reason. I mean, not all of us are thugs or gangstas, especially the ones (like myself) who like transexual/transgendered women. I definitely think that all TS escorts should give every person of any race a fair chance, especially since they are getting paid for their time and services. I don't know, maybe she had a bad experience or something, but she didn't even post what race she perfers to escort for in her ad. If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind. Please post up any other TS escorts, who seems the same way, hopefully there is only a few of them out there.

That bitch is ugly anyway.

[Legend]

To quote cleveland from family guy "who cares their whores" lol just kidding but back to the matter if she flatout refuses you because of your race like many have said their are others that would take your money,this is not something to get worked up about after all it's illegal(in most states) to hire escorts,now get discriminated in some form of legal matter like getting hire for a job now that something you really should get upset about but not because i escort refused you,it would be kinda funny if sharpton or jackson spoke on behalf of all johns being discriminated against because escorts refuse them because of race.

I just don't think this is something to get worked up about.

[wjm]

Ain't even got do all that.

Before you even get on the phone, easiest thing to do is shoot them an email asking them if they see Black clients. Works for me.

Has it really come to that now? I mean, I've asked them different things, relating to what they will and won't do and for how much they'll do this or that, but has it really come to where I need to ask them if it's alright if I'm black? Wow...

I always make it a point to ask if they see blacks or in my email I state that I am black. If they say no, then I moved on. It gets to be kinda old to have to ask the question. Some girls put in their ad stating their preferences and I respect that. AT least I know not to call them . Just my two cents

[timxxx]

I was going to responed to the mind blowing stupidity of the commits made by tsntx,adameast & MrSecretAgent but l've dedecided to copy two of the more intelligent people on HA (peggygee & MystiquEvolution) & kick back and observe.

[tsmandy]

It's not just TS escorts. My guess is that any review board that discusses escorts will have had this discussion 10 or 20 times.

I posted on TER a year or so ago that I thought it was fucked up, screening clientele based on their skin color. Couple hours later I had a well known provider calling me up and telling me she was a good person, she just wouldn't see black guys. She told me she wasn't racist, just playing it safe.

Rather than call it something else, i.e attraction, I would just as soon acknowledge racial discrimination in the sex industry and try to figure out ways to challenge it. Really, most girls could give a fuck about being attracted to guys, when it comes down to it, its all about money and safety.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

it's comical actually, many of these chicks I hear often saying they don't date Black or Hispanic for safety are the ones with the wanna be thug legal teen hiding in their closets at their apartment or Red Roof Inn room while they turn a trick into a treat, I love this thread

[MrSecretAgent]

I was going to responed to the mind blowing stupidity of the commits made by tsntx,adameast & MrSecretAgent but l've dedecided to copy two of the more intelligent people on HA (peggygee & MystiquEvolution) & kick back and observe.

You might disagree with me - but there is certainly no reason to start bashing me. Like I said I'm NOT a racist and have seral black friends. I'm a member of a party on the far left.

I'm simply not turned on by black girls - just like some people aren't turned on by obese or girls - or some girls aren't turned on by a bald guy or a guy that has an extremely small cock.

The fact that you aren't able to see the difference betwen having a sexual preference for a certain look and being is racist just says more about you than it does about me.

[Azanti]

No doubt some people are racist, it exists both ways. But othertimes it just what kelly said.

[TJ347]

I was going to responed to the mind blowing stupidity of the commits made by tsntx,adameast & MrSecretAgent but l've dedecided to copy two of the more intelligent people on HA (peggygee & MystiquEvolution) & kick back and observe.

You might disagree with me - but there is certainly no reason to start bashing me. Like I said I'm NOT a racist and have seral black friends. I'm a member of a party on the far left.

I'm simply not turned on by black girls - just like some people aren't turned on by obese or girls - or some girls aren't turned on by a bald guy or a guy that has an extremely small cock.

The fact that you aren't able to see the difference betwen having a sexual preference for a certain look and being is racist just says more about you than it does about me.

And the fact that you and several others obviously can't tell the difference between being turned off by bald or fat people as opposed to being turned off by people because of their racial origin says everything.

[MrSecretAgent]

I was going to responed to the mind blowing stupidity of the commits made by tsntx,adameast & MrSecretAgent but l've dedecided to copy two of the more intelligent people on HA (peggygee & MystiquEvolution) & kick back and observe.

You might disagree with me - but there is certainly no reason to start bashing me. Like I said I'm NOT a racist and have seral black friends. I'm a member of a party on the far left.

I'm simply not turned on by black girls - just like some people aren't turned on by obese or girls - or some girls aren't turned on by a bald guy or a guy that has an extremely small cock.

The fact that you aren't able to see the difference betwen having a sexual preference for a certain look and being is racist just says more about you than it does about me.

And the fact that you and several others obviously can't tell the difference between being turned off by bald or fat people as opposed to being turned off by people because of their racial origin says everything.

Sounds to me like you just don't want to understand what I'm trying to say here - if she turns down black guys because they in general don't turn her on - then it wouldn't be racist in any way!

On the other hand if she were to turn down a black man not based on her sexual likes and dislikes but because of some stereotypical thaughts about what a black guy is like - then it would a racist act.

Please explain to me how it is different that black girls in general don't turn me on - just like severely obese girls in general don't turn me on ?

And please tell me I'm racist - because I've told you several times already that I've got several black friends (girls and guys).

[MrsKellyPierce]

Again you are making it a RACIAL ORIGIN. Mine has nothing to do with their skin color. If I see a good looking black man. I'd date him. The only one I've seen that has caught my interest is Shemar. And then you took it as me being racist. When it clearly wasn't. I just have not seen any other black men that I am attracted to.

[TomSelis]

LOL at this thread again, but I have to say....

[TJ347]

Sounds to me like you just don't want to understand what I'm trying to say here - if she turns down black guys because they in general don't turn her on - then it wouldn't be racist in any way!

And please tell me I'm racist - because I've told you several times already that I've got several black friends (girls and guys).

Didn't you and I have the "racism" talk yesterday? *sigh*
Okay... if she turns down black guys because they don't "turn her on", then does it not logically follow that these guys don't turn her on because they're black? Think about that for a second... "She turns down BLACK guys because they don't turn her on"... Obviously, the issue here is that the guys are black. Now, to compare that to someone not liking a fat person or a bald guy is apples and... kiwis, not even oranges. And as I said, that you can't see why that is says everything about why you can't understand what I'm saying and what others have said on this issue. And by the way, don't repeat that "I have black friends" quote again, please. I've heard that since forever right before people proceeded to make a racially insensitive comment, and really would like to never hear it again if that's at all possible.

[Mami-Liiciouz]

.what about the clients who hate on you cause you date black/latin men?.

.that happen to me recently, this guy asked me if i see black/latin men, and i said yes i dont discriminate and he said "u "n word" lover", and then said he would never see me again.

.isn't that something?.

[TomSelis]

TJ man, don't even get yourself worked up over it. It is what it is.....simply put, bad business sense.

[MrSecretAgent]

What I'm saying is that in general I'm not turned on by black girls. Of course there is exceptions that proves the poing - for instance I think that Beyoncé Knowles is extremely sexy.

When you claim that my sexual preferences aren't just sexual preferences but instead are proof that I'm racist - that just that someone should get their definitions straight.

Racism is any form of bigotry, prejudice, violence, oppression, stereotyping or other socially divisive practice whose primary basis is the concept of race.

Which is not the case coz I'm not saying I won't have sex with people because they are black - what I'm saying is that very few black turns me on. Thus my preference is not based on race but instead on looks.....looks that has nothing to do with the colour of their skin.

There IS differences in the facial features of blacks, caucasians, arabs and asians. There is no doubt about that.

The fact that you keep insisting that I'm racist is extremely offensive - I've got, like I've stating again and again, several black friends whom I care for just as much as my caucasian friends.

I can not accept racism in any form - and have particapated in several marches against right wing parties, racism, danish imigration laws etc.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

.what about the clients who hate on you cause you date black/latin men?.

.that happen to me recently, this guy asked me if i see black/latin men, and i said yes i dont discriminate and he said "u "n word" lover", and then said he would never see me again.

.isn't that something?.

He's envious over the fact that you cater to all, because you said you Don't discriminate. The idea that you were with a moreno prior to his knowledge is a turn off to him about you.

that and the fact that the brotha most likely made Mami utter some things he could never get her to (i.e. speaking in tongues)

[tsmandy]

LOL at this thread again, but I have to say....
WONDER SHOWZEN! Yay!

[Fox]

Again you are making it a RACIAL ORIGIN. Mine has nothing to do with their skin color. If I see a good looking black man. I'd date him. The only one I've seen that has caught my interest is Shemar. And then you took it as me being racist. When it clearly wasn't. I just have not seen any other black men that I am attracted to.

I didn't think it was racist, I just found it funny.

In other news, do NOT over do it on sit-ups. It can throw your back out later. -.o

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

crunches on a swiss ball, trust me

[TJ347]

What I'm saying is that in general I'm not turned on by black girls. Of course there is exceptions that proves the poing - for instance I think that Beyoncé Knowles is extremely sexy.

When you claim that my sexual preferences aren't just sexual preferences but instead are proof that I'm racist - that just that someone should get their definitions straight.

Racism is any form of bigotry, prejudice, violence, oppression, stereotyping or other socially divisive practice whose primary basis is the concept of race.

Which is not the case coz I'm not saying I won't have sex with people because they are black - what I'm saying is that very few black turns me on. Thus my preference is not based on race but instead on looks.....looks that has nothing to do with the colour of their skin.

There IS differences in the facial features of blacks, caucasians, arabs and asians. There is no doubt about that.

The fact that you keep insisting that I'm racist is extremely offensive - I've got, like I've stating again and again, several black friends whom I care for just as much as my caucasian friends.

I can not accept racism in any form - and have particapated in several marches against right wing parties, racism, danish imigration laws etc.

I am going to take Tom Selis' advice... and keep it moving.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think some of you need to watch that show Whoopi Goldberg did on racism. And how her own community take things out of context all the time.

[MrSecretAgent]

What I'm saying is that in general I'm not turned on by black girls. Of course there is exceptions that proves the poing - for instance I think that Beyoncé Knowles is extremely sexy.

When you claim that my sexual preferences aren't just sexual preferences but instead are proof that I'm racist - that just that someone should get their definitions straight.

Racism is any form of bigotry, prejudice, violence, oppression, stereotyping or other socially divisive practice whose primary basis is the concept of race.

Which is not the case coz I'm not saying I won't have sex with people because they are black - what I'm saying is that very few black turns me on. Thus my preference is not based on race but instead on looks.....looks that has nothing to do with the colour of their skin.

There IS differences in the facial features of blacks, caucasians, arabs and asians. There is no doubt about that.

The fact that you keep insisting that I'm racist is extremely offensive - I've got, like I've stating again and again, several black friends whom I care for just as much as my caucasian friends.

I can not accept racism in any form - and have particapated in several marches against right wing parties, racism, danish imigration laws etc.

I am going to take Tom Selis' advice... and keep it moving.

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!

You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

please let's not let this good thread evolve into WHO'S RACIST ON HA, it's not about that (with the exception of that chick Vanessa was beefin with) what this is about is a guy of African-American or Hispanic decent getting turned down by a prostitute who chooses not to see them based on personal preference....... and IT IS THEIR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Believe me if I was a male escort and a fat chick called me up and asked me if I see BBW's I'd say no, that's my preference........ would she like it, probably not, just like those dudes wouldn't like it, but you have to respect it.

[General Disarray]

I think I should stay out of this one :shock:

[TJ347]

I think some of you need to watch that show Whoopi Goldberg did on racism. And how her own community take things out of context all the time.

"Her own community"... nice wording.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

not for nothing I can't really be mad at Kelly for typing that, it's her upbringing that caused it, and she's young, a few years under her belt and she'll choose her words more carefully

[TJ347]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did.

[MrsKellyPierce]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did. Then why do you argue with me baybee?

[TJ347]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did. Then why do you argue with me baybee?


I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't.

[MrsKellyPierce]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did. Then why do you argue with me baybee?


I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. Oh okay sexay

[MrSecretAgent]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did.

Although you didn't directly call me a racist you did so indirectly by saying that it's racist that I'm not attracted to the majority of black girls.

[MrsKellyPierce]

That is the easy way out when you don't know how to argue your point!
You haven't at any point tried to explain why you would consider me a racist - I have explained to you that is has nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's pretty arrogant to call me a racist and then refuse to explain in what way I'm being racist.

Firstly, I know how to argue my point, it's just that I'm working on determining when it's worth arguing, and when it isn't. I might suggest that you check your suppositions also, as you find it arrogant for me to call you a racist, although I never did.

Although you didn't directly call me a racist you did so indirectly by saying that it's racist that I'm not attracted to the majority of black girls. Now Now lol you have to think EVERYONE is sexy so you aren't RACIST. Get with the Love POWER dude lol Spread a little love. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :grouphug

[wjcdiver]

We are talking about having sex with a person right? The simple question is does someone, even an escort have the right to choose who they want to fuck?

Sexual arousal is one of the most individual things in the world. Let's remember where we are. Not everyone wants to have sex with transgender people, I do but many people do not.

Is it sexist for a lesbian not to want to have sex with a man? A gay male with a woman? What about a T-girl who only wants to be a bottom, or only a top?

Is it racist for a black woman not to want ot have sex with a white man, or a black man with a white woman, or a black man with a black woman?

What about not wanting to have sex with overweight men? What about men who only like overwieght women?

IMHO - Racism, sexism etc. has to do with denying, owr wanting to deny, individuals equal rights and opportunity because of their age, race, sex, religion or national origin.

Who you want to fuck is in an entirely different category. Just because you are an escort you don't give up your right to screw who you want.

[TJ347]

Although you didn't directly call me a racist you did so indirectly by saying that it's racist that I'm not attracted to the majority of black girls.

I was talking about escorts, everyone else was talking about escorts. Unless you're an escort, no one was talking about you, least of all me. However, if you're not attracted to the majority of black girls that you've met, seen on TV, etcetera, that isn't racist at all, as clearly the issue isn't them being black, since there are at least some black girls that you do find attractive. Had you said you don't find any black girls attractive though, then that'd be another issue, as you don't know and haven't seen every black girl on earth. I realize you're trying to defend Kelly's original position as well as your own, but you aren't getting why Kelly's original position is so ridiculous to some people, or acknowledging that her position has changed. Kelly originally tried to go with the Shemar Moore "bone structure" retcon to save her ass, which doesn't work because as I've said, a range of bone structures can be found in all ethnic groups. She has since restated her position, now saying that Shemar Moore is the only black man she's seen that she's found attractive. That indeed isn't racist, and may have been what she meant all along. It just would have been nice if she had said that rather than go with such a ridiculous retcon initially. Clear? I hope so, as I am done with this thread.

[MrSecretAgent]

Although you didn't directly call me a racist you did so indirectly by saying that it's racist that I'm not attracted to the majority of black girls.

I was talking about escorts, everyone else was talking about escorts. Unless you're an escort, no one was talking about you, least of all me. However, if you're not attracted to the majority of black girls that you've met, seen on TV, etcetera, that isn't racist at all, as clearly the issue isn't them being black, since there are at least some black girls that you do find attractive. Had you said you don't find any black girls attractive though, then that'd be another issue, as you don't know and haven't seen every black girl on earth. I realize you're trying to defend Kelly's original position as well as your own, but you aren't getting why Kelly's original position is so ridiculous to some people, or acknowledging that her position has changed. Kelly originally tried to go with the Shemar Moore "bone structure" retcon to save her ass, which doesn't work because as I've said, a range of bone structures can be found in all ethnic groups. She has since restated her position, now saying that Shemar Moore is the only black man she's seen that she's found attractive. That indeed isn't racist, and may have been what she meant all along. It just would have been nice if she had said that rather than go with such a ridiculous retcon initially. Clear? I hope so, as I am done with this thread.

we agree then, i've misunderstood your previous posts.......sorry about that

[tsluva]

.
Doubt if you see an eros ad display " i do not date blacks "
they don't prefer advertisers to be that blount.
When was the last time you saw something like that on
an Eros ad ?

If anything you could see that " i'm not for everyone "
.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

they dont post that on eros but they do post that on CL in the casual encounters section, same chicks that post ads on eros and the OTHER CL sections

[yodajazz]

Given the situation of the original post, there are scores of possibilities besides race. You could have sounded like her crazy stalker, (we all have them, I married mine), disguising his voice, or the policeman who busted her after he couldn’t come, etc. Given all the possibilities, I think this should go into ‘the don’t much worry about it’ categrory.

This should be placed into the ‘count your blessings’ category. There is always ‘a could have been worse’, scenario. She could have taken your money and given you lousy service, for example. In reality as long as you have money, you will eventually find a great provider. From where I’m at, I consider you lucky, very lucky, or I should say blessed.

In another topic in this thread, don’t be too hard on Kelly (or our other girls, tsntx), she’s young. That’s a good and bad thing. All she needs is the right love doctor and she’ll testifying and doing the holy dance in front of a Missionary Baptist church. Can I get an Amen!

P.S. There are a lot of good responses in this thread.

[TJ347]

^ Amen! :claps

[drock]

How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men

wow, I didn't know that chick had issues like this.. Thanks for dropping the 411 on her boo..

Anyway, i'd take you any day over her.. She's a beast, and you're sexy as hell..

[drock]

Again you are making it a RACIAL ORIGIN. Mine has nothing to do with their skin color. If I see a good looking black man. I'd date him. The only one I've seen that has caught my interest is Shemar. And then you took it as me being racist. When it clearly wasn't. I just have not seen any other black men that I am attracted to.

Who in the fuck cares! You look like a damn decaying lizzard anyway.. Personally I wouldn't even waste my time on something like you!

[TomSelis]

I'm going to play connect the dots a little bit here, just to kill this thread.

1) We've heard the "it's her body" argument everytime this type of thread comes up. That's cool because it's true and ultimately it still is the girl's choice.

Rebuttal to that: The bottom line with escorting is the woman is selling herself. It's supposed to be about $$$, but in this case it's not, it's more than that.

2) This is always mentioned too: The girl is doing it for "safety" reasons or she simply not attracted.

Rebuttal to that: See above about $$$. I've never read stories about someone getting refused because they're fat or they stink (though I'm sure it happens), a girl will take a fat or stinky guy's money, take a shower afterwards and keep it movin. I don't want to get all Cornell West up in here, but "Something's wrong with that."

3) Black/latino guys tend to want more for less. Or "They want the whole hour"

Rebuttal: WTF!? Didn't he pay for the whole hour? If I rent a power sander from Home Depot for a day, Home Depot better not come knocking on my door 12 hours later.

Other rebuttals from things I've read on here:

I've seen stories about non-black guys trying to or ripping girls off.

I've seen non black stalkers....on here.

I've said it before, not seeing black guys for any of those reasons is bad business sense, because it is. I can understand from an escorting standpoint trying to do less for more. But not seeing....$$$ because a black hand gave it to you.....

One more time, everybody say it with me.......

[deadclan69]

maybe she doesn't like black pubes....

[MacShreach]

I'm going to play connect the dots a little bit here, just to kill this thread.

1) We've heard the "it's her body" argument everytime this type of thread comes up. That's cool because it's true and ultimately it still is the girl's choice.

Rebuttal to that: The bottom line with escorting is the woman is selling herself. It's supposed to be about $$$, but in this case it's not, it's more than that.

Tom, I'm not trying to undermine your case but as a point of information many-- I would say most--whores are indeed fussy about whom they accept, it's not just a case of going with any man who has the cash. That is just not the way it is, certainly in my experience, which is reasonably extensive. In fact some girls prefer working the street because they can get a good look at the client and give him the brush-off if they don't fancy it.

When girls are booking on the phone it's much harder for them because they have to screen without seeing you. So I suppose some put down ground-rules that are offensive to many men.You have to remember whoring is a dangerous profession and the girl gets one chance to get it right; occupational hazards can be nasty in the sex trade. If they're whoring in a place where the very activity is illegal, multiply the paranoia by about a factor of 10.

Whatever, it's still the girl's body; just because you're offering money does NOT mean she HAS to fuck you, and that applies whatever colour your skin is.

Her reasons may be fair or completely unfair; but in the end she does have the right to choose, money or no.

I'm entirely on your side on the race element but on the girl's regarding right to choice here.

[Nooksack]

She could at least give a reason. Not to mention that not all people, even if they are from one race look alike or have the same bone structure. I consider myself a black man, but I have a mixed heritage and most people assume I'm Hispanic, yet my blood is black, Filippino and Native American. Her hanging up is poor etiquette and I don't know why anyone would endorse rudeness like that.

[TomSelis]

I'm going to play connect the dots a little bit here, just to kill this thread.

1) We've heard the "it's her body" argument everytime this type of thread comes up. That's cool because it's true and ultimately it still is the girl's choice.

Rebuttal to that: The bottom line with escorting is the woman is selling herself. It's supposed to be about $$$, but in this case it's not, it's more than that.

Tom, I'm not trying to undermine your case but as a point of information many-- I would say most--whores are indeed fussy about whom they accept, it's not just a case of going with any man who has the cash. That is just not the way it is, certainly in my experience, which is reasonably extensive. In fact some girls prefer working the street because they can get a good look at the client and give him the brush-off if they don't fancy it.

When girls are booking on the phone it's much harder for them because they have to screen without seeing you. So I suppose some put down ground-rules that are offensive to many men.You have to remember whoring is a dangerous profession and the girl gets one chance to get it right; occupational hazards can be nasty in the sex trade. If they're whoring in a place where the very activity is illegal, multiply the paranoia by about a factor of 10.

Whatever, it's still the girl's body; just because you're offering money does NOT mean she HAS to fuck you, and that applies whatever colour your skin is.

Her reasons may be fair or completely unfair; but in the end she does have the right to choose, money or no.

I'm entirely on your side on the race element but on the girl's regarding right to choice here.

Sure Shreach, that's what I started off saying. I'm not arguing that, in fact I'm C/Sing all of that. It still is, what it is....racist. That's all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure the OP has moved on and gotten laid by someone else by now. I'm just saying, call it what it is.

[tsntx]

I was going to responed to the mind blowing stupidity of the commits made by tsntx,adameast & MrSecretAgent but l've dedecided to copy two of the more intelligent people on HA (peggygee & MystiquEvolution) & kick back and observe.

u wanna try that again??? call me out and then dont have the balls to say how i said something stupid? fuck you.

[tsntx]

mac said:

Whatever, it's still the girl's body; just because you're offering money does NOT mean she HAS to fuck you, and that applies whatever colour your skin is.

Her reasons may be fair or completely unfair; but in the end she does have the right to choose, money or no.

EXACTLY. :claps :rock2 :peanutbutter

[TsVanessa69]

How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men

wow, I didn't know that chick had issues like this.. Thanks for dropping the 411 on her boo..

Anyway, i'd take you any day over her.. She's a beast, and you're sexy as hell.. She has been banning me from yahoo groups she moderatees becaise she thinks she is the hottest TS in Chicago, and I gave her a run for her money, (or lack of). She said you guys don't like me, that u talk to be, then go back to her and talk shit about me, funny thing banning me from a yahoo group don't do shit for me, my work sells in the real world, what the hell I need an empty yahoo group to promote my work. She also said I don't hold a candle to Aniya Red. Jada. Gia or Allanah, but yet she never leaves her house. She did 1 shoot on Black T-Girls and the pics are HORRIBLE, mine are quite lovely, I hate when girls think they are in competition with me, I don't need to compete with anybody, I am Vanessa, point blank! :twisted:

[tsntx]

Read the fine print of just about any escort ad, and it will say,

I do reserve the right to decline appointments as I deem necessary.

In fact, mine also says,

New clients are asked to supply two current and clear photographs in which their face is visable, and to briefly tell me a little about themselves. Please do not bother sending me pictures which only reveal what you look like from the waist down. If I like you AND I want to play with you, then I will bring you into my space.

Note: I do not take just anyone as a client. I am selective about who I choose to spend my time with.


every ad ive seen says the same thing... and most girls i know require photos BEFORE an apt is even set up /discussed.

[DeClock]

I have to agree to this, there are many ladies that do not want to deal with Black men no matter what. I could give you a list of names just in the New York City area alone. And believe it or not two are Black women. All this comes from first hand encounters I had.

[Shining Star]

I have to agree to this, there are many ladies that do not want to deal with Black men no matter what. I could give you a list of names just in the New York City area alone. And believe it or not two are Black women. All this comes from first hand encounters I had.This has to be one of the top five topics that just won't die a natural death, as it comes up like clock work.

No, it is not just race that causes some girls to turn away certian minorities, though that does factor into things. Quite simply, rightly or wrongly many girls feel there are easier pickings out there for the money, rather than dealing with what they think will be a client that will *gasp* demand he receive the service agreed to and paid for.

One reads lots of reviews from men who showed up and paid for lack luster service, only to leave with their tail between their legs when the escort tells them things are what they are and be told. Most white men (speaking broadly and in general), especially those willing to shell out the vast sums some girls are asking for, are not going to risk a beat down and or possible LE involvement by getting into it with an escort. OTHO many Latino and Black brothers (and probably a few other men as well), just simply aren't going to go down like that. If it is a confrontation a girl wants, then she will get it, period. There is also said man will "take care" of things later, by either harrassing the escort and or causing other types of trouble.

Now which would you rather bother with? A white business man who is willing to shell out $500 for what was supposed to be an hour of full service, but is more like 15 minutes of touchy/feely (with 10 minutes of that with the girl on the phone making other dates), or a "brother" with a Mandingo sized trade who wants his one hour of full service and isn't going anywhere until he gets it?

There are other parts of the world where escorts won't see blk/dark men. IIRC parts of Asia like Vietnam, or the Phillipines are or at least were famous for girls/houses that wouldn't cater to anything but white men. Much of this was due to the fact white men including soliders didn't want lay with/where a blk man had been. Then again there are parts of the world where working women welcomed dark men. From the stories one hears blk/dark WWII militarymen were welcomed all over Europe, especially places like France, Germany, and Italy where prior to the war coloured people were rare.

[tssexychanel]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.


LOL this is nothing new.

[TJ347]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.

[tssexychanel]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I have to agree to this, there are many ladies that do not want to deal with Black men no matter what. I could give you a list of names just in the New York City area alone. And believe it or not two are Black women. All this comes from first hand encounters I had.

name names


I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.

it is the worst kind of racism I agree, but in all fairness if someone of any nationality HAS TO feel INCLINED to date someone they aren't attracted to for WHATEVER reason then that's not fair........... I LOVE Black women and would never say I wouldn't date one, but as a BLACK MAN I've done my time, I've dated more than enough BLACK WOMEN in my lifetime to honestly say if I never date another one I'm good, I think everyone should be entitled to explore other relationships outside their nationality...........

which brings me to this


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.

I respect that, personally I got tired of dealing with chicks (not just Afro-American for the record but mainly) that expected me to do all of the work in a relationship while they sit back with that "you're getting what's in between these legs so I can get whatever I want" mentality........... When I finally got tired of dealing with chicks like that (and to be fair let's be honest I was dealing with chicks that weren't on my level but were earthy compared to myself with my suburban upbringing) and upgraded to classier dames I became happier. Classier dames can come from any nationality, the women this thread has focused on but NO ONE has defined are these escorts that choose not to see someone of a particular nationality forgetting where they came from. Most of them were those little kids in the hood that fought fierce mental & physical battles because they wanted to play with the dolls or jump rope with the girls which resulted in fights with kids of African American & Hispanic decent which ironically now as a woman they choose not to see....................

[ezed]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist. There is one TS escort named TS Siara who operates around NY/NJ.
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/ny-missd1-siara1.htm
I called her twice. Both times she hung up on me just because I said I was black. She didn't even give a reason. I mean, not all of us are thugs or gangstas, especially the ones (like myself) who like transexual/transgendered women. I definitely think that all TS escorts should give every person of any race a fair chance, especially since they are getting paid for their time and services. I don't know, maybe she had a bad experience or something, but she didn't even post what race she perfers to escort for in her ad. If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind. Please post up any other TS escorts, who seems the same way, hopefully there is only a few of them out there.

Call Al Sharpton. He'll make her apologize and get her banned from eros. Play the race card game, it's getting more popular than Texas Holdum.

If she didn't post her preference, report her to the better business bureau.

[tssexychanel]

I have to agree to this, there are many ladies that do not want to deal with Black men no matter what. I could give you a list of names just in the New York City area alone. And believe it or not two are Black women. All this comes from first hand encounters I had.

name names


I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.

it is the worst kind of racism I agree, but in all fairness if someone of any nationality HAS TO feel INCLINED to date someone they aren't attracted to for WHATEVER reason then that's not fair........... I LOVE Black women and would never say I wouldn't date one, but as a BLACK MAN I've done my time, I've dated more than enough BLACK WOMEN in my lifetime to honestly say if I never date another one I'm good, I think everyone should be entitled to explore other relationships outside their nationality...........

which brings me to this


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.

I respect that, personally I got tired of dealing with chicks (not just Afro-American for the record but mainly) that expected me to do all of the work in a relationship while they sit back with that "you're getting what's in between these legs so I can get whatever I want" mentality........... When I finally got tired of dealing with chicks like that (and to be fair let's be honest I was dealing with chicks that weren't on my level but were earthy compared to myself with my suburban upbringing) and upgraded to classier dames I became happier. Classier dames can come from any nationality, the women this thread has focused on but NO ONE has defined are these escorts that choose not to see someone of a particular nationality forgetting where they came from. Most of them were those little kids in the hood that fought fierce mental & physical battles because they wanted to play with the dolls or jump rope with the girls which resulted in fights with kids of African American & Hispanic decent which ironically now as a woman they choose not to see....................


your comment seemed contradictory but I think I kinda got what you meant. I am over trying to validate myself as a black woman transexual or black american especially since this always has to be done to the so called black community. I dont date people professionally or personally based on race its more of on an intellectual level on one hand you say you love and respect them when replying to the other poster but then to me you say that the majority of the blacks that you dated where shiftless and wanted to be taken care of. I feel it wasnt the race of these women so much as the class of them. I am from the hood and grew up in the hood was loved and respected in the hood. I see daily trannie and genetic women of all races over here trying to get some man to take care of them. Its not a matter of race its a matter of a persons intellectual level. I am college educated and have a loving supportive family that nurtured me and dont need the validate or care of a man.

Since I dont know you I will speak to my own situations cause I know me and my friends. A man is not needed its nice to have someone that you can share things with outside of sex. The men that interest can nuture every aspect of my being not just on a sexual level. I need some one to share all life has to offer not just my bed.

FYI too "classier dames" dont exist any woman with class is considered a lady. Dames is so demeaning. LOL. Just my two cents I am not here to convince any of the brothers to cum back to the dark side the sisters are doing just fine with out most of you. Be happy but dont blame us for your life choices thats what they are choices if we had that much control to run you to another race we would have used that power years ago to make you act right. LOL

[beatmaker]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.


I am confused. Do you or don't you date black men? When I visited your website, you didn't have the classic symptoms of the sista who thinks like that. First, you had a picture kneeling between a black man's legs and you claim your blackness most importantly. Most of these self-loathing types claim to be Brazilian, Dominican or Indian and run the whole "wealthy, generous man" line. However, I do notice most Dominant/Dominatrix type providers have issues with black men and latin men to a lesser extent. Obviously, the brotha or papi from the hood, ain't trying to pay you $500 for the pleasure of licking your boots and getting spanked with a paddle, holding a ball in his mouth like Marcellus from "Pulp Fiction".

Sexy Chanel, too many blacks have self-hatred issues based on the larger society and systemic miseducation, so these issues manifest themselves in our social interactions (violence, interracial dating etc). Then they spread like a cancer, as the "slighted" sista feels black men don't respect me, so let me run to the white man and vice-versa. People of color, are real fast to count each out, when they have some negative history. A white women will turn lesbian, before they say all white men are bad. JWBL, made a comment about women (mainly black women), who have a sense of entitlement, just because they are an attractive women giving you some sex. However, I realize that many of these women grow up in homes with no male authority figure or one who is present but pathetic and dysfunctional. Therefore, they don't know how to treat a man like a man, because they never seen that type of interaction between a man and woman, in their adolescence. Same applies to many black men. This is nothing but a byproduct of our history. If you ever worked in corporate America, you will notice black women are given more opportunity, than black men, as they are less threatening to the status quo. This has caused a power imbalance in the black home for years and pushed a lot of brothas to engage in criminal behavior to create their "own shit", as we say around the way. I refuse to buckle to this thinking, even though it seems easier. Don't get me wrong, I'll chill or even have sexual relations with any women I think looks good. However, I need a deeper, more cerebral connection for me too truely make a women "wifey". Just my 2 cents!

[tssexychanel]

How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men


exactly what I stated it has never been a secret at all. So for you to post an im like its news means nothing to me. I state again I am not bothered by the black men that prefer latin girls at all. I have a preference like all people do and I like what I like and wont pretend to like any one regardless of race just to be popular. Its ok that I am not everyones cup of tea and they should be ok that they are not mine.

TS Chanel
Misssexychanel
tssexychanel

Now what?

I thought so. I am grown made 38 March 3rd and as the black gentle man so eloquently put I am entitled to happiness even if its outside my nationality.

Try again.

[TJ347]

A man is not needed its nice to have someone that you can share things with outside of sex. The men that interest can nuture every aspect of my being not just on a sexual level. I need some one to share all life has to offer not just my bed.

I'm confused by your contradiction here... You say "A man is not needed", then end by saying "I need some one to share all life has to offer..." Those are at two different ends of the spectrum. It's either one or the other, so which is it? Do you feel you need a man, or don't you?



I am not here to convince any of the brothers to cum back to the dark side the sisters are doing just fine with out most of you. Be happy but dont blame us for your life choices thats what they are choices if we had that much control to run you to another race we would have used that power years ago to make you act right.

Here the problem is that I'm experienced enough to know better. The "sisters" have been crying about black men going to white and Hispanic women for as long as I can remember, and before that I'm sure. So how is it then that you can say "the sisters are doing just fine with out most of you" when this topic is covered seemingly every other month in black magazines from Essence right down to Jet, with women continually lamenting the black men who no longer have an interest in black women? Further, I love how this becomes a black men going after white women thing... There are a whole lot of "sisters" with personal ads all over the internet, who specify that they're looking only for white men, but yet black men get this bullshit from black women all the time as they ignore what they're doing themselves. Typical, hypocritical bullshit I've seen for my entire adult life. At the end of the day, the black men who don't want black women aren't worth crying about, and vice versa. But my point is, it isn't just the brothers crossing over, so get off a brother's goddamned back already! :evil:

[tssexychanel]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.


I am confused. Do you or don't you date black men? When I visited your website, you didn't have the classic symptoms of the sista who thinks like that. First, you had a picture kneeling between a black man's legs and you claim your blackness most importantly. Most of these self-loathing types claim to be Brazilian, Dominican or Indian and run the whole "wealthy, generous man" line. However, I do notice most Dominant/Dominatrix type providers have issues with black men and latin men to a lesser extent. Obviously, the brotha or papi from the hood, ain't trying to pay you $500 for the pleasure of licking your boots and getting spanked with a paddle, holding a ball in his mouth like Marcellus from "Pulp Fiction".

Sexy Chanel, too many blacks have self-hatred issues based on the larger society and systemic miseducation, so these issues manifest themselves in our social interactions (violence, interracial dating etc). Then they spread like a cancer, as the "slighted" sista feels black men don't respect me, so let me run to the white man and vice-versa. People of color, are real fast to count each out, when they have some negative history. A white women will turn lesbian, before they say all white men are bad. JWBL, made a comment about women (mainly black women), who have a sense of entitlement, just because they are an attractive women giving you some sex. However, I realize that many of these women grow up in homes with no male authority figure or one who is present but pathetic and dysfunctional. Therefore, they don't know how to treat a man like a man, because they never seen that type of interaction between a man and woman, in their adolescence. Same applies to many black men. This is nothing but a byproduct of our history. If you ever worked in corporate America, you will notice black women are given more opportunity, than black men, as they are less threatening to the status quo. This has caused a power imbalance in the black home for years and pushed a lot of brothas to engage in criminal behavior to create their "own shit", as we say around the way. I refuse to buckle to this thinking, even though it seems easier. Don't get me wrong, I'll chill or even have sexual relations with any women I think looks good. However, I need a deeper, more cerebral connection for me too truely make a women "wifey". Just my 2 cents!


I am a domme and throughly committed to the lifestyle it has nothing to do with money or escorting. I prefer to have a black man at my side but I will not settle for any man just because he is black. The stuff you see from me on the net is a job and is but a part of me. You cant read anything about me on the net from any site or any man, queen or trannie and percieve to know me. I am a very private person and the only way to really know me is to talk to me. I share bits of myself with the world but only my closest and real friends and family know me. Like I said the men personally in my life have to stimulate me mentally more so than physically I can get off with anyone but will only get with a man worth my time. I need nothing of any man finacially I like to do for self cause I dont jump thru hoops for money or things. Men that will wear the title of being my man will be strong and secure in himself and us. He will be intellectual goal oriented and driven someone who I can lean on and can lean on me we will support each other in all areas not just fuck good. Like I said Chanel is not ruled by any man black men dont have enough power over me to say fuck all black men and make me run to a white savior. So to answer your question yes I date black men but dark skin dont make you a black man. I not focused so much on race as his Maturity level. I am way past the I date for looks age thats for kids. I will date old young any race weight. Its most important that he realizes what he has in me than who the hell he is.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Dames, chicks, broads..........................whatever
hehe
glad you understood it toots

[TJ347]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again

So you second my opinion that a person who will date every other ethnic group but their own is the worst kind of racist... (by the way, I'm a man)



How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men


And yet make the above statement? :footinmouth

That's that bullshit!!! :smh :screwy

[tssexychanel]

How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men

wow, I didn't know that chick had issues like this.. Thanks for dropping the 411 on her boo..

Anyway, i'd take you any day over her.. She's a beast, and you're sexy as hell.. She has been banning me from yahoo groups she moderatees becaise she thinks she is the hottest TS in Chicago, and I gave her a run for her money, (or lack of). She said you guys don't like me, that u talk to be, then go back to her and talk shit about me, funny thing banning me from a yahoo group don't do shit for me, my work sells in the real world, what the hell I need an empty yahoo group to promote my work. She also said I don't hold a candle to Aniya Red. Jada. Gia or Allanah, but yet she never leaves her house. She did 1 shoot on Black T-Girls and the pics are HORRIBLE, mine are quite lovely, I hate when girls think they are in competition with me, I don't need to compete with anybody, I am Vanessa, point blank! :twisted:

Her Youtube page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-tgvepqRg).


AS USUAL VANESSA SITS AND TRIES TO GARNER SUPPORT OF MEN THAT I STATE AGAIN I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT I WILL BE THAT BEAST.

THIS WAS THE ACTUAL POST FROM THE GROUP AND THE REASON VANESSA IS BANNED NO ONE IS IN COMPETITION WITH HER OR ANY OTHER PERSON MY GOAL IS NOT TO BE LOVED AND ADORED BY ANY ONE I HAVE TO GET UP IN THE MORNING AND LOOK AT ME AND WHAT I HAVE DONE AND BE HAPPY WITH ME REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE THINKS. I AM HAPPY BEING CHANEL CAN YOU SAY THE SAME OF YOURSELF I DONT HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER GIRL DOWN TO MAKE MYSELF LOOK GOOD AND THAT YAHOO IM YOU POSTED WHY NOT POST THE WHOLE CONVO. I TELL YOU WHY CAUSE YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THE VICTIM WHEN EVERYONE THAT KNOWS YOU KNOWS WHAT AN EVIL WITCH YOU ARE AND AS I STATED IN THAT SAME EDITED CONVO YOU POSTED NO ONE HATES YOU I WISH THE BEST FOR YOU I JUST DONT FEEL THE NEED TO DEAL WITH YOU ANY LONGER. YOU ARE THE ONLY GIRL I WAS DEALING WITH THAT THERE IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. I TALK TO LIYAH EVERY DAY ANIYAH RED EVERY DAY THE SAME MEN CONTACT US AND WE LAUGH ABOUT IT YOU GET PERSONALLY OFFENDED UNLIKE DIANE AND OTHER SO CALLED FRIENDS OF YOURS I NEVER FUCKED YOUR MAN AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT BEHIND YOUR BACK. GET A GRIP AND GET SOME HELP YOUR ISSUES IS WHY I DONT LIKE YOU NOT YOUR LOOK LIKE I SAID YOU ARE PRETTY BUT IN A POOL OF PRETTY GIRLS YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE ANY GIRL THAT THINKS SHE IS IS A DAMN FOOL AND SETTING HERSELF UP FOR A BIG ASS LET DOWN.

TO THE BROTHER THAT THINKS I AM A BEAST IF THATS YOUR PIC IN YOUR AVATAR YOUR NOT MY TYPE SO LUCKY ME YOU DONT FIND ME ATTRACTIVE EITHER. I WILL SAY THIS ALSO ANY MAN THAT WOULD GET INTO THE MIDDLE OF A GIRL FIGHT IS TOO MUCH WOMAN FOR ME TO DATE SO ITS COOL THAT YOU FIND ME SO UNATTRACTIVE. NO ONE BUT ME CAN GIVE YOU THE 411 ON ME THIS IS A GOSSIP SITE LIKE MOST OF THE SITES ON THE NET. GO TO THE SOURCE DONT LISTEN TO THE HORSE.

BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL I LIVE FOR ME NOT YOU. I WILL NOT GO OUT OF MY WAY TO CHANGE ANYONES OPINION OF ME OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE.

HTTP://GROUPS.YAHOO.COM/GROUP/TRANSEXUALGOODIES


WE WILL NOT TOLERATE DISRESPECT HERE OF ANYONE. ALL RACES BODY TYPES
AGES AND SEXUAL IDENTITIES ARE WELCOME TO SHARE WHAT THEY WILL HERE.
THERE ARE MILLIONS OF YAHOO GROUPS AND IF YOU CAN'T ACT ADULT HERE
ITS BEST YOU FIND ONE OF THE ONES THAT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER TO
PRACTICE YOUR BULLSHIT IN. TANYA I ACTUALLY DONT CARE HOW YOU LOOK IT
REALLY DOESNT MATTER YOU COULD LOOK LIKE ALLANAH STARR WHO IS THE
HOTTEST LATINA TRANSEXUAL IN THE WORLD AND YOU STILL HAVE NO RIGHT TO
LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE ELSE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE KENDRA START YOUR
OWN GROUP AND DON'T ALLOW HER TO POST. ANYONE THAT HAS ISSUE WITH
WHAT GOES ON HERE GET OUT. SIMPLE AS THAT. THIS IS AN ADULT GROUP FOR
A REASON BECAUSE PEOPLE HERE ONLY WANT TO ASSOCIATE IN ADULT
ACTIVITIES.

EVEN THOUGH VANESSSA HAS BEEN BANNED I KNOW SHE WILL STILL GET THIS
MESSAGE. SO I SAY THIS BEFORE YOU EVEN GO AROUND TALKING ABOUT HOW
YOU GOT KICKED OUT CAUSE YOU ARE TOO PRETTY OR EVERYONE IS JEALOUS OF
YOU. YOUR SMALL MINDED SELF CENTERED ATTITUDE IS WHY YOU ARE NO
LONGER WELCOME HERE. THE WORLD DOESNT REVOLVE AROUND YOU. WHAT WAS
GOING ON BETWEEEN THEM TWO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. YOUR COMMENT
ONLY SHOWS HOW SMALL YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT YOUR PETTY ASS MATERIAL
BEING REMOVED FROM HERE FUNNY HOW EVERYONE HAS MOVED ON BUT YOUR
STILL BITTER ABOUT IT. YET YOUR SO DAMN FABULOUS.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD TO ENDURE THE
STUPIDITY OF MESSAGES GETTING THRU. THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
GROUPS THAT I MODERATE AND I AM NOT THE OWNER HERE. IGNORANCE IS THE
MAIN REASON THESE MESSAGES ARE MODERATED. I ALLOWED VANESSA'S LAST
POST BECAUSE SHE LIKES TO GO OTHER PLACES AND TALK ABOUT HOW SHE IS
DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND SHE IS SUCH AN ANGEL. I WAS NOT INSULTED
ABOUT THE FACT OF HER THINKING THAT I AM UGLY WHAT EVER I AM I AM
SUCCESSFUL IN MY LIFE AND HAPPY BUT I THINK THAT SHE TOTALLY
DISRESPECTED MY FRIENDS WHO ARE PROMOTED HERE. I FOR ONE DONT THINK
THAT SHE CAN HOLD A CANDLE TO ALLANAH, ANIYAH, JADE OR ANY OF THE
OTHER TRANSEXUAL MODELS HERE. THATS JUST MY OPINION AND I HAVE KEPT
IT TO MYSELF UNTIL NOW.

IF YOU ARE HERE AND THERE IS SOMEONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE
FEATURED YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT YOUR CHOICE OF A HOTTTIE BUT YOU
WILL NOT PUT DOWN OTHERS HERE.

[tssexychanel]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again

So you second my opinion that a person who will date every other ethnic group but their own is the worst kind of racist... (by the way, I'm a man)



How about black transexuals who are racist to their own kind? case in point, in a heated convo with Ts Sexy Chanel in Chicago I just had:tssexychanel: you are not that important
tsvanessa69: I don't care
tssexychanel: in fact the men that talk to you
tssexychanel: dont interest me in the least
tssexychanel: im a top
tsvanessa69: a top what
tssexychanel: i dont date black or latin men


And yet make the above statement? That's that bullshit!!! You don't seem to have a clue what side of this issue you stand on at all! :smh


you read part of an edited im which I have no problem sending to you in its entirety so that you can get a full understanding until then you dont know what you are talking about.

Thank you

[beatmaker]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.


I am confused. Do you or don't you date black men? When I visited your website, you didn't have the classic symptoms of the sista who thinks like that. First, you had a picture kneeling between a black man's legs and you claim your blackness most importantly. Most of these self-loathing types claim to be Brazilian, Dominican or Indian and run the whole "wealthy, generous man" line. However, I do notice most Dominant/Dominatrix type providers have issues with black men and latin men to a lesser extent. Obviously, the brotha or papi from the hood, ain't trying to pay you $500 for the pleasure of licking your boots and getting spanked with a paddle, holding a ball in his mouth like Marcellus from "Pulp Fiction".

Sexy Chanel, too many blacks have self-hatred issues based on the larger society and systemic miseducation, so these issues manifest themselves in our social interactions (violence, interracial dating etc). Then they spread like a cancer, as the "slighted" sista feels black men don't respect me, so let me run to the white man and vice-versa. People of color, are real fast to count each out, when they have some negative history. A white women will turn lesbian, before they say all white men are bad. JWBL, made a comment about women (mainly black women), who have a sense of entitlement, just because they are an attractive women giving you some sex. However, I realize that many of these women grow up in homes with no male authority figure or one who is present but pathetic and dysfunctional. Therefore, they don't know how to treat a man like a man, because they never seen that type of interaction between a man and woman, in their adolescence. Same applies to many black men. This is nothing but a byproduct of our history. If you ever worked in corporate America, you will notice black women are given more opportunity, than black men, as they are less threatening to the status quo. This has caused a power imbalance in the black home for years and pushed a lot of brothas to engage in criminal behavior to create their "own shit", as we say around the way. I refuse to buckle to this thinking, even though it seems easier. Don't get me wrong, I'll chill or even have sexual relations with any women I think looks good. However, I need a deeper, more cerebral connection for me too truely make a women "wifey". Just my 2 cents!


I am a domme and throughly committed to the lifestyle it has nothing to do with money or escorting. I prefer to have a black man at my side but I will not settle for any man just because he is black. The stuff you see from me on the net is a job and is but a part of me. You cant read anything about me on the net from any site or any man, queen or trannie and percieve to know me. I am a very private person and the only way to really know me is to talk to me. I share bits of myself with the world but only my closest and real friends and family know me. Like I said the men personally in my life have to stimulate me mentally more so than physically I can get off with anyone but will only get with a man worth my time. I need nothing of any man finacially I like to do for self cause I dont jump thru hoops for money or things. Men that will wear the title of being my man will be strong and secure in himself and us. He will be intellectual goal oriented and driven someone who I can lean on and can lean on me we will support each other in all areas not just fuck good. Like I said Chanel is not ruled by any man black men dont have enough power over me to say fuck all black men and make me run to a white savior. So to answer your question yes I date black men but dark skin dont make you a black man. I not focused so much on race as his Maturity level. I am way past the I date for looks age thats for kids. I will date old young any race weight. Its most important that he realizes what he has in me than who the hell he is.

Alright sis, I can respect where you are coming from. Trust me, I have dealt with grief at my current job occasionally, because many of the black women get offended, then spiteful, if you don't want to date them or play fuck buddy. I am mature enough not to shit were I eat (excuse my French), so I'm not going to deal with the post-romance B.S, at my place of employment. The ghettofied types, try to make little slick accusations about not me liking women, jokingly. Note: I like TS's and GG's ONLY! So, that is a bunch of B.S, but I ignore it, as it is a coping mechanism to deal with rejection, when you really haven't dealt with it before from the opposite sex. Most men are simpletons who think with their dick, so when a man walks outside that paradigm, some women (TS/GG) needs to rationalize by labeling and stereotyping, to avoid an alternative reality.

Peace and Respect!

[tssexychanel]

I'll just end my commentary on this issue by talking about something all together different... So I guess I'm not actually commenting on this issue at all then, huh? Anyway, I have always thought people who don't date within their own group have a mental problem, and should be avoided by people who don't want to interact with psychos. So that I'm clear, I'll re-word that, since I can see how people could read that wrong: I'm talking about a black person, for example, who will date people of every other ethnic group except their own. In my opinion, that's the worse kind of racism.


you better preach sister amen and amen again


I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.


I am confused. Do you or don't you date black men? When I visited your website, you didn't have the classic symptoms of the sista who thinks like that. First, you had a picture kneeling between a black man's legs and you claim your blackness most importantly. Most of these self-loathing types claim to be Brazilian, Dominican or Indian and run the whole "wealthy, generous man" line. However, I do notice most Dominant/Dominatrix type providers have issues with black men and latin men to a lesser extent. Obviously, the brotha or papi from the hood, ain't trying to pay you $500 for the pleasure of licking your boots and getting spanked with a paddle, holding a ball in his mouth like Marcellus from "Pulp Fiction".

Sexy Chanel, too many blacks have self-hatred issues based on the larger society and systemic miseducation, so these issues manifest themselves in our social interactions (violence, interracial dating etc). Then they spread like a cancer, as the "slighted" sista feels black men don't respect me, so let me run to the white man and vice-versa. People of color, are real fast to count each out, when they have some negative history. A white women will turn lesbian, before they say all white men are bad. JWBL, made a comment about women (mainly black women), who have a sense of entitlement, just because they are an attractive women giving you some sex. However, I realize that many of these women grow up in homes with no male authority figure or one who is present but pathetic and dysfunctional. Therefore, they don't know how to treat a man like a man, because they never seen that type of interaction between a man and woman, in their adolescence. Same applies to many black men. This is nothing but a byproduct of our history. If you ever worked in corporate America, you will notice black women are given more opportunity, than black men, as they are less threatening to the status quo. This has caused a power imbalance in the black home for years and pushed a lot of brothas to engage in criminal behavior to create their "own shit", as we say around the way. I refuse to buckle to this thinking, even though it seems easier. Don't get me wrong, I'll chill or even have sexual relations with any women I think looks good. However, I need a deeper, more cerebral connection for me too truely make a women "wifey". Just my 2 cents!


I am a domme and throughly committed to the lifestyle it has nothing to do with money or escorting. I prefer to have a black man at my side but I will not settle for any man just because he is black. The stuff you see from me on the net is a job and is but a part of me. You cant read anything about me on the net from any site or any man, queen or trannie and percieve to know me. I am a very private person and the only way to really know me is to talk to me. I share bits of myself with the world but only my closest and real friends and family know me. Like I said the men personally in my life have to stimulate me mentally more so than physically I can get off with anyone but will only get with a man worth my time. I need nothing of any man finacially I like to do for self cause I dont jump thru hoops for money or things. Men that will wear the title of being my man will be strong and secure in himself and us. He will be intellectual goal oriented and driven someone who I can lean on and can lean on me we will support each other in all areas not just fuck good. Like I said Chanel is not ruled by any man black men dont have enough power over me to say fuck all black men and make me run to a white savior. So to answer your question yes I date black men but dark skin dont make you a black man. I not focused so much on race as his Maturity level. I am way past the I date for looks age thats for kids. I will date old young any race weight. Its most important that he realizes what he has in me than who the hell he is.

Alright sis, I can respect where you are coming from. Trust me, I have dealt with grief at my current job occasionally, because many of the black women get offended, then spiteful, if you don't want to date them or play fuck buddy. I am mature enough not to shit were I eat (excuse my French), so I'm not going to deal with the post-romance B.S, at my place of employment. The ghettofied types, try to make little slick accusations about not me liking women, jokingly. Note: I like TS's and GG's ONLY! So, that is a bunch of B.S, but I ignore it, as it is a coping mechanism to deal with rejection, when you really haven't dealt with it before from the opposite sex. Most men are simpletons who think with their dick, so when a man walks outside that paradigm, some women (TS/GG) needs to rationalize by labeling and stereotyping, to avoid an alternative reality.

Peace and Respect!


THANKS VERY MUCH I FELT WHERE YOU WERE COMING FROM. AGAIN I STATE ITS A PERSONS INTELLECTUAL LEVEL THAT MAKES THEM UNFIT TO BE WITH ME NOT THEIR RACE AGE OR BODY TYPE. MY SELF WORTH UNLIKE MOST TRANNIES IS NOT TIED UP IN MY LOOKS. I AM COLLEGE EDUCATED I HAVE A BA AND AM RETURNING TO SCHOOL FOR MY MASTERS DEGREE. I AM CONFINDENT IN WHO I AM NOT HOW I LOOK. AND INTELLEGENCE WILL LAST LONGER THAN BEAUTY WITH EVERYONE. I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND THE RIGHT WOMAN THAT IS DESERVING OF A MAN LIKE YOURSELF ONE DAY. I HAVE MANY FRIENDS ON MY LEVEL AND THEY ARE SEEKING THE SAME THING IN LIFE THAT I AM. MATURE GROWN WOMEN LOOKING FOR A MAN PAST HIS LOOKS OR HOW MUCH HE GOT. WE ARE WOMEN THAT GET OUR OWN. HANG IN THERE AND WAIT ON YOUR QUEEN YOU DONT DESERVE ANYTHING LESS THAN THE ONE THAT CAN LOVE YOU FOR YOU.

PEACE TO YOU

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

uh huh, back to the OP...............................

everyone grab a section of erotic services via CL in your town and call 5 broads and see which ones say they don't date Black men/or Hispanic Men (hell include Asian men also) we'll create a list and from now on before anyone calls and waste their time they can check the list [hehe]

[tssexychanel]

uh huh, back to the OP...............................

everyone grab a section of erotic services via CL in your town and call 5 broads and see which ones say they don't date Black men/or Hispanic Men (hell include Asian men also) we'll create a list and from now on before anyone calls and waste their time they can check the list [hehe]



excellent idea see now you using your head for more than a hat rack. LOL

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

why would I ever use my head for a hat rack when I could use your nose? LOL ;)

[tssexychanel]

why would I ever use my head for a hat rack when I could use your nose? LOL ;)


Lets not forget imma beast have you seen this nose you could hang your coat on it. LOL. Im fuckable from the neck down. LOL.

[beatmaker]

escorts have every much of right to be picky about their clients as their clients have the right to see other girls...

dont like getting turned down? sure its a blow to your ego but really in the long run... big flipping deal.

move on and take your money elsewhere... the way i see it if someone could make a whole thread blasting a girl, that doesnt even post on this site, then who knows what that person would do in person when the provider isnt willing to do EVERYTHING said client wants... she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.




she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

Yes, but if she post this information up front ahead of time on her ad or what-ever page, then it wouldn't be an issue for most of the blacks or what ever other ethnic background that seeks interest.

*I'm not in to escorts, just stating from a rejection point of view.*


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

What you're saying would have validity if these escorts only had clients, whom they were physically attracted to. However, we all know that most escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients. Trust me, many of these escorts who refuse black men are dealing with a deeper pathology. It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. Many have bought into this "Evening News" version of black malehood (along with many poor, miseducated black men unfortunately), so they feel sleeping with a black man, as more of a representation of something negative. It's like the scene from the KKK classic "Birth of a Nation", where they have the poor, helpless white women dives off a cliff, rather than be taken by the big, bad black buck.

TSNTX, you obviously subscribe to the same line of thinking as TS Siera (NYC). The fact that you had to characterize the brotha as some "pyscho" or "stalker", to justify TS Siera's actions, shows that buy into this mindset, so much so, you had to rationalize it, so as not to feel you're closeminded or racially insensitive (self-inflicted mind games). Kocconutz, just stated he called for a date respectfully and was hung up on twice. However, you feel that behavior was acceptable. See the problem with this behavior, is who is to say the black man on the other end of the line doesn't resemble Shemar Moore (for Kelly Shore) or isn't very wealthy and dignified. Problem is, you hear a Black man's voice and assume he looks like J.J Evans from "Good Times" or is some violent psychopath.
Kelly Shore says Shemar Moore is the only "acceptable negro" and Mr. Secret Agent says his is Beyonce Knowles. This "bone structure" argument is just a Trojan Horse for the real pathology of color caste systemology. Most blacks joke behind closed doors, that the more you resemble a caucasian (i.e lighter skin, straighter hair, keener features) the more socially acceptable you'll be. It's the lagacy of the house slave vs. the field slave. The comments by Kelly Shore, reminded me of an episode of the HBO special "Taxi Cab Confessions", I had seen around 10 years ago. This cabbie picked up, two drunk, trailer trash looking white girls. He asked them why they were in California and they said to meet celebrities and just like on HA for some reason, it turned to Black people. Anyway, she went on to say, she would only date a black man if he was famous, rich and good looking. I believe the two guys she named were Lenny Kravitz and LL Cool J. I mean, this chick looked like a Jerry Springer reject, washed out face, overprocessed bleached hair, cheap spandex dress, uneducated and low class, yet the only black man good enough for her, had to be at the pinnacle of American society. I had to laugh at the audacity and pathological arrogance, that drove her comments.

All I'll say is "karma is a bitch". It seems all you TS's who are looking for the Abrecrombie and Fitch male model type, are usually the ones who will descent in middle and old age, very lonely, bitter and disillusioned. Funny thing, you will rarely do enough self-catharsis, to see your exile is self-imposed, due to standards more rigid than the modelesque looking GG female, who has the pick of the litter. Like JWBL stated before, eventually many of these "I don't date this, that and the third" types, will eventually buckle as their wall of options close in on them. I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him.

Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later.

[tssexychanel]

escorts have every much of right to be picky about their clients as their clients have the right to see other girls...

dont like getting turned down? sure its a blow to your ego but really in the long run... big flipping deal.

move on and take your money elsewhere... the way i see it if someone could make a whole thread blasting a girl, that doesnt even post on this site, then who knows what that person would do in person when the provider isnt willing to do EVERYTHING said client wants... she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.




she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

Yes, but if she post this information up front ahead of time on her ad or what-ever page, then it wouldn't be an issue for most of the blacks or what ever other ethnic background that seeks interest.

*I'm not in to escorts, just stating from a rejection point of view.*


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

What you're saying would have validity if these escorts only had clients, whom they were physically attracted to. However, we all know that most escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients. Trust me, many of these escorts who refuse black men are dealing with a deeper pathology. It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. Many have bought into this "Evening News" version of black malehood (along with many poor, miseducated black men unfortunately), so they feel sleeping with a black man, as more of a representation of something negative. It's like the scene from the KKK classic "Birth of a Nation", where they have the poor, helpless white women dives off a cliff, rather than be taken by the big, bad black buck.

TSNTX, you obviously subscribe to the same line of thinking as TS Siera (NYC). The fact that you had to characterize the brotha as some "pyscho" or "stalker", to justify TS Siera's actions, shows that buy into this mindset, so much so, you had to rationalize it, so as not to feel you're closeminded or racially insensitive (self-inflicted mind games). Kocconutz, just stated he called for a date respectfully and was hung up on twice. However, you feel that behavior was acceptable. See the problem with this behavior, is who is to say the black man on the other end of the line doesn't resemble Shemar Moore (for Kelly Shore) or isn't very wealthy and dignified. Problem is, you hear a Black man's voice and assume he looks like J.J Evans from "Good Times" or is some violent psychopath.
Kelly Shore says Shemar Moore is the only "acceptable negro" and Mr. Secret Agent says his is Beyonce Knowles. This "bone structure" argument is just a Trojan Horse for the real pathology of color caste systemology. Most blacks joke behind closed doors, that the more you resemble a caucasian (i.e lighter skin, straighter hair, keener features) the more socially acceptable you'll be. It's the lagacy of the house slave vs. the field slave. The comments by Kelly Shore, reminded me of an episode of the HBO special "Taxi Cab Confessions", I had seen around 10 years ago. This cabbie picked up, two drunk, trailer trash looking white girls. He asked them why they were in California and they said to meet celebrities and just like on HA for some reason, it turned to Black people. Anyway, she went on to say, she would only date a black man if he was famous, rich and good looking. I believe the two guys she named were Lenny Kravitz and LL Cool J. I mean, this chick looked like a Jerry Springer reject, washed out face, overprocessed bleached hair, cheap spandex dress, uneducated and low class, yet the only black man good enough for her, had to be at the pinnacle of American society. I had to laugh at the audacity and pathological arrogance, that drove her comments.

All I'll say is "karma is a bitch". It seems all you TS's who are looking for the Abrecrombie and Fitch male model type, are usually the ones who will descent in middle and old age, very lonely, bitter and disillusioned. Funny thing, you will rarely do enough self-catharsis, to see your exile is self-imposed, due to standards more rigid than the modelesque looking GG female, who has the pick of the litter. Like JWBL stated before, eventually many of these "I don't date this, that and the third" types, will eventually buckle as their wall of options close in on them. I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him.

Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later.

BEATMAKER IS WATER BOO LET IT ROLL OFF YOU I FEEL WHERE YOU COMING FROM THIS IS AN ARENA FOR DRAMA NOT INTELLEGENT DISCUSSION. THE WOMAN WORTHY OF YOU IS OUT THERE. YOU NEVER SPOKE TRUER WORDS THOUGH. NOTHING BUT LOVE FROM ME. THOSE WHO ARE SHALLOW AND FOCUSED ON THE LOOKS OR OTHERS ARE DOOMED FOR A BIG UPSET. CHARACTER WILL LAST A LOT LONGER THAN ANYONES LOOKS.

[blckhaze]

ok. my piece.

As a black man, i personally don't care too much if a female or shemale don't like me because im black. There are probaly girls out there who like black guys and don't date white guys, but white guys don't complain because they realize it aint a big deal. Yes, these ladies are providing a service, but if they dont wanna see you, move on until you find one who will. You'll probably have a better time anyway. Same goes for dating. If the girls wants to judge me by my cover, then they usually miss out. In high school, one of my piers' parents wasnt to keen with me dating her friends daughter, and let it be known. My response: I aranged a metting, sat down with the parents and had a 2 hour convo about life in general. By meetings end, the parent not only apologized for their statement, the father (A CFO of a fortune 500 company) wrote me a recomendation for a grant award which helped me through my first degree.

Moral of the story. Either prove them wrong or get over it, cause in the end, you'll exert the same amount of enegry, you might as well do something positve instead of just bithcin'.

[Deepdarkfucker]

Hmmmm?

[BlackAdder]

"Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later"

Fuckin A-men to that bro!!


Blkchaze is also right; when i see a fine girl on myspace and the website loads up with hip hop playing and all her friends are black and latino.....I DONT get offended that shes not going to be into my skinny white suburban ass....I just move on to the next one ..no big deal...

Find the girls that want do deal with ya, and screw the girls that dont...why stress it? Plenty of fish in the sea for everyone.

[kocconutz]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist. There is one TS escort named TS Siara who operates around NY/NJ.
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/ny-missd1-siara1.htm
I called her twice. Both times she hung up on me just because I said I was black. She didn't even give a reason. I mean, not all of us are thugs or gangstas, especially the ones (like myself) who like transexual/transgendered women. I definitely think that all TS escorts should give every person of any race a fair chance, especially since they are getting paid for their time and services. I don't know, maybe she had a bad experience or something, but she didn't even post what race she perfers to escort for in her ad. If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind. Please post up any other TS escorts, who seems the same way, hopefully there is only a few of them out there.

Call Al Sharpton. He'll make her apologize and get her banned from eros. Play the race card game, it's getting more popular than Texas Holdum.

If she didn't post her preference, report her to the better business bureau.

You mean Texas Hold'Em. Come on "Ezed", now your just over-exaggerating to be funny. Too bad that it wasn't funny. Do you have anything intelligent to bring to this topic, or anything from personal experience?

[TsVanessa69]

AS USUAL VANESSA SITS AND TRIES TO GARNER SUPPORT OF MEN THAT I STATE AGAIN I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT I WILL BE THAT BEAST.
I don't need to sit here and go back and forth with someone who never leaves her house, who lives in a fantasy world on a computer in her bedroom. I live in the real world, I travel, I entertain in clubs, I work in many aspects of the community. I also help co-facilitate a transgender support group here in Chicago. We could go back and forth for days, but sweetie, it's not worth my time. As I said, and will say again, I don't need a yahoo group, they basically don't serve a pourpose in the real world, I deal in REAL time not PC time. If it wasn't for a yahoo group, nobody would even know you exsisted. I had a yahoo group, I had over 11000 members and I deleated it. Yo say I don't hold a candle to Allanah, Gia, Aniya or Jade, but I get out there and do my thing, I do it well. You read me for doing drag shows, but the clubs are calling me and booking me, who books you? When I go to NY, Allanah books me as one of her dancers, who books you? What do you do? NOTHING but sit at home and jack off on a webcam. You make post about all these tours, yet they never happen, you post about going to this function and that, yet you never show? Why? You such a bad ass bitch, so come out from behind the computer, you girls are so quick to talk the talk, now walk the walk! I don't hate you, I loved you as the sister I never had, but come on now bitch, get it together,that all I have to say, get it together, do what I do as well as I do it, then we can talk!

[TsVanessa69]

I FOR ONE DONT THINK
THAT SHE CAN HOLD A CANDLE TO ALLANAH, ANIYAH, JADE OR ANY OF THE
OTHER TRANSEXUAL MODELS HERE. THATS JUST MY OPINION AND I HAVE KEPT
IT TO MYSELF UNTIL NOW.
Well like I said, I do my thing, and it shows, you sit behind a computer and read, I model, I am on a few sites, and have a few more lined up, and I am doing other things, I am on my way to compete in the Miss Continental pageant this year also, so your opinion of me is worthless, you are NODODY, what they fuck do you do? you talk, talk is CHEAP, I say stop talking and do something. Oh and for saying i was a beast? Your mirror is broken boo :twisted: :roll: :twisted:

[TJ347]

Beatmaker's last comment said it all, so I'll just shut up now.

[tsluvaman]

[TJ347]

I dont mind so much now because I have met so many wonderful men due to the fact that black men said black girls werent good enough their loss. I thank them for showing me that I could find all I needed in men no matter what race I will not date an asshole.
As a guy who doesn't usually post in these forums I just had to add my 2cents on this one. I ocasionally treat myself to a date with a tgirl. I contacted Chanel online, I had $250 to spend with her, but my issue was with her location above anything, at the time she used the name Eternity. She is located in a very dangerous area of Chicago, so I questioned how could she be the escort business with such a risky location, she went off on and on about that why she didn't see black men, thats why she stuck with white guys, but if I wouldn't go in that neighborhood, what white guy would?

I've read what she's had to say, and what people like yourself have had to say on this issue. I have concluded from these that "Sexy" Chanel is both not at all sexy, and full of shit besides. She lives in a crap section of Chicago? What a surprise... I wouldn't expect much of a girl who calls herself "Chanel", to be honest, including for her to be very attractive or to live in an area anywhere near as posh as her chosen name would imply. :roll:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol wait a minute TJ, you really didn't expect anything else, did you?

[tetsuo]

Boo Hoo, get over it.

[tetsuo]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy. You are an idiot dude. Its her choice what kind of people she wants to be with. Choice not rascism.

[tsntx]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy. You are an idiot dude. Its her choice what kind of people she wants to be with. Choice not rascism.

exactly... HER CHOICE.

[tsntx]

escorts have every much of right to be picky about their clients as their clients have the right to see other girls...

dont like getting turned down? sure its a blow to your ego but really in the long run... big flipping deal.

move on and take your money elsewhere... the way i see it if someone could make a whole thread blasting a girl, that doesnt even post on this site, then who knows what that person would do in person when the provider isnt willing to do EVERYTHING said client wants... she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.




she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

Yes, but if she post this information up front ahead of time on her ad or what-ever page, then it wouldn't be an issue for most of the blacks or what ever other ethnic background that seeks interest.

*I'm not in to escorts, just stating from a rejection point of view.*


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

What you're saying would have validity if these escorts only had clients, whom they were physically attracted to. However, we all know that most escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients. Trust me, many of these escorts who refuse black men are dealing with a deeper pathology. It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. Many have bought into this "Evening News" version of black malehood (along with many poor, miseducated black men unfortunately), so they feel sleeping with a black man, as more of a representation of something negative. It's like the scene from the KKK classic "Birth of a Nation", where they have the poor, helpless white women dives off a cliff, rather than be taken by the big, bad black buck.

TSNTX, you obviously subscribe to the same line of thinking as TS Siera (NYC). The fact that you had to characterize the brotha as some "pyscho" or "stalker", to justify TS Siera's actions, shows that buy into this mindset, so much so, you had to rationalize it, so as not to feel you're closeminded or racially insensitive (self-inflicted mind games). Kocconutz, just stated he called for a date respectfully and was hung up on twice. However, you feel that behavior was acceptable. See the problem with this behavior, is who is to say the black man on the other end of the line doesn't resemble Shemar Moore (for Kelly Shore) or isn't very wealthy and dignified. Problem is, you hear a Black man's voice and assume he looks like J.J Evans from "Good Times" or is some violent psychopath.
Kelly Shore says Shemar Moore is the only "acceptable negro" and Mr. Secret Agent says his is Beyonce Knowles. This "bone structure" argument is just a Trojan Horse for the real pathology of color caste systemology. Most blacks joke behind closed doors, that the more you resemble a caucasian (i.e lighter skin, straighter hair, keener features) the more socially acceptable you'll be. It's the lagacy of the house slave vs. the field slave. The comments by Kelly Shore, reminded me of an episode of the HBO special "Taxi Cab Confessions", I had seen around 10 years ago. This cabbie picked up, two drunk, trailer trash looking white girls. He asked them why they were in California and they said to meet celebrities and just like on HA for some reason, it turned to Black people. Anyway, she went on to say, she would only date a black man if he was famous, rich and good looking. I believe the two guys she named were Lenny Kravitz and LL Cool J. I mean, this chick looked like a Jerry Springer reject, washed out face, overprocessed bleached hair, cheap spandex dress, uneducated and low class, yet the only black man good enough for her, had to be at the pinnacle of American society. I had to laugh at the audacity and pathological arrogance, that drove her comments.

All I'll say is "karma is a bitch". It seems all you TS's who are looking for the Abrecrombie and Fitch male model type, are usually the ones who will descent in middle and old age, very lonely, bitter and disillusioned. Funny thing, you will rarely do enough self-catharsis, to see your exile is self-imposed, due to standards more rigid than the modelesque looking GG female, who has the pick of the litter. Like JWBL stated before, eventually many of these "I don't date this, that and the third" types, will eventually buckle as their wall of options close in on them. I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him.

Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later.

first off.... fuck you. dont put words in my mouth. dont use SOMEONE ELSES arguements for the reasons THEY dont see black men as MY OWN.

second.... you said
"we all know that MOST escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients.
keyword is MOST. you said it YOURSELF. MOST not ALL. NOT ALL ESCORTS DO IT FOR "MONEY" OR FOR A "LIVING". some girls ACTUALLY make something out of themselves and work NORMAL jobs, only escorting here and there for __their_reason_here__.

third... WTF are you talking about w/ this random comment?
It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. WHAT???

fourth.... you said " I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him. "

congradu-fucking-lations... i know their cheating husbands.

and partially?? why would ANYONE marry someone they are only PARTIALLY attracted to?

FUCKING MONEY YOU MORON.

[mustang]

escorts have every much of right to be picky about their clients as their clients have the right to see other girls...

dont like getting turned down? sure its a blow to your ego but really in the long run... big flipping deal.

move on and take your money elsewhere... the way i see it if someone could make a whole thread blasting a girl, that doesnt even post on this site, then who knows what that person would do in person when the provider isnt willing to do EVERYTHING said client wants... she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.




she was just in declining you as its her body and her right.... deal w/ it... tons of other girls out there that will work w/ you, instead of focusing on the one that wouldnt, save up and blow it on the ones that will.

Yes, but if she post this information up front ahead of time on her ad or what-ever page, then it wouldn't be an issue for most of the blacks or what ever other ethnic background that seeks interest.

*I'm not in to escorts, just stating from a rejection point of view.*


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

What you're saying would have validity if these escorts only had clients, whom they were physically attracted to. However, we all know that most escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients. Trust me, many of these escorts who refuse black men are dealing with a deeper pathology. It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. Many have bought into this "Evening News" version of black malehood (along with many poor, miseducated black men unfortunately), so they feel sleeping with a black man, as more of a representation of something negative. It's like the scene from the KKK classic "Birth of a Nation", where they have the poor, helpless white women dives off a cliff, rather than be taken by the big, bad black buck.

TSNTX, you obviously subscribe to the same line of thinking as TS Siera (NYC). The fact that you had to characterize the brotha as some "pyscho" or "stalker", to justify TS Siera's actions, shows that buy into this mindset, so much so, you had to rationalize it, so as not to feel you're closeminded or racially insensitive (self-inflicted mind games). Kocconutz, just stated he called for a date respectfully and was hung up on twice. However, you feel that behavior was acceptable. See the problem with this behavior, is who is to say the black man on the other end of the line doesn't resemble Shemar Moore (for Kelly Shore) or isn't very wealthy and dignified. Problem is, you hear a Black man's voice and assume he looks like J.J Evans from "Good Times" or is some violent psychopath.
Kelly Shore says Shemar Moore is the only "acceptable negro" and Mr. Secret Agent says his is Beyonce Knowles. This "bone structure" argument is just a Trojan Horse for the real pathology of color caste systemology. Most blacks joke behind closed doors, that the more you resemble a caucasian (i.e lighter skin, straighter hair, keener features) the more socially acceptable you'll be. It's the lagacy of the house slave vs. the field slave. The comments by Kelly Shore, reminded me of an episode of the HBO special "Taxi Cab Confessions", I had seen around 10 years ago. This cabbie picked up, two drunk, trailer trash looking white girls. He asked them why they were in California and they said to meet celebrities and just like on HA for some reason, it turned to Black people. Anyway, she went on to say, she would only date a black man if he was famous, rich and good looking. I believe the two guys she named were Lenny Kravitz and LL Cool J. I mean, this chick looked like a Jerry Springer reject, washed out face, overprocessed bleached hair, cheap spandex dress, uneducated and low class, yet the only black man good enough for her, had to be at the pinnacle of American society. I had to laugh at the audacity and pathological arrogance, that drove her comments.

All I'll say is "karma is a bitch". It seems all you TS's who are looking for the Abrecrombie and Fitch male model type, are usually the ones who will descent in middle and old age, very lonely, bitter and disillusioned. Funny thing, you will rarely do enough self-catharsis, to see your exile is self-imposed, due to standards more rigid than the modelesque looking GG female, who has the pick of the litter. Like JWBL stated before, eventually many of these "I don't date this, that and the third" types, will eventually buckle as their wall of options close in on them. I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him.

Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later.

first off.... fuck you. dont put words in my mouth. dont use SOMEONE ELSES arguements for the reasons THEY dont see black men as MY OWN.

second.... you said
"we all know that MOST escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients.
keyword is MOST. you said it YOURSELF. MOST not ALL. NOT ALL ESCORTS DO IT FOR "MONEY" OR FOR A "LIVING". some girls ACTUALLY make something out of themselves and work NORMAL jobs, only escorting here and there for __their_reason_here__.

third... WTF are you talking about w/ this random comment?
It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. WHAT???

fourth.... you said " I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him. "

congradu-fucking-lations... i know their cheating husbands.

and partially?? why would ANYONE marry someone they are only PARTIALLY attracted to?

FUCKING MONEY YOU MORON.

You guys all need to calm down a bit.

The point seemed to be that there are people you will be attracted to in any race no matter how much a person says they aren't. It is 2007!! There are plenty of well dressed,good looking,well behaved black men out there such as myself. Being selective is acceptable......but being a racist isn't helping out this country at all.This coming from a community(ts community) fighting for acceptance themselves. It tickles me to see that!

Tsntx...as a fellow texan and UT grad.....I would like to believe you are better than that. That's the reason a person moves to Austin instead of Jasper after all right???

As far as Kelly goes.....I have sat back and listened to quite a bit that girl has to say.......I am still waiting for something of substance. You may be good looking......but you can make yourself ugly really fast with some comments. Get to know some of us......you may find out a lot of your beliefs are just mis-conceptions.

[tsntx]

i live where i live b/c its accepting and no one turns their head at me no matter where or what im doing... when i lived in houston... it wasnt pretty.

[mustang]

i live where i live b/c its accepting and no one turns their head at me no matter where or what im doing... when i lived in houston... it wasnt pretty.


exactly!! That's why I went there for school! .......and that's why I am moving back there in August! You seem like a sweet girl from what I read thus far. That's why I said you are better than that. Besides.....you never know who your mate my be.......if you have blinders on....you may miss them entirely! As far as escorting goes.......I think it is fine to be selective. Cutting out thugs and knuckleheads is cool......cutting out the whole race is not.

[beatmaker]

TSNTX, I have to laugh at your post. It kills me, how people act like what you're saying doesn't phase them, yet your sitting at your keyboard, typing away, while foaming at the mouth like Cujo with a bunch of rants and obscenities.

The fact that you resorted to name calling, vulgarities and all these bolded fonts shows two things. 1) What I said struck a nerve. 2) You have little emotional intelligence. People who can't express themselves intelligently in defense of their positions, are usually tempermental and impulsive. Yeah, you can front and come back with a response more simple-minded than your first one, but who are you kidding!



first off.... fuck you. dont put words in my mouth. dont use SOMEONE ELSES arguements for the reasons THEY dont see black men as MY OWN.


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

TSNTX, have you heard of the term "deductive reasoning"? I don't need to put words in your mouth. You have advocated TS Siera's treatment of Kocconutz throughout this entire thread. Right or wrong? So, why would you defend someone you don't know from Adam, so stridently, unless you agree with their position? You not her friggin message board attorney, so why then? Most sane, sensible people don't waste keystrokes defending people's actions, unless they agree with them. At least someone with a modicum of common sense won't.



second.... you said
"we all know that MOST escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients.keyword is MOST. you said it YOURSELF. MOST not ALL. NOT ALL ESCORTS DO IT FOR "MONEY" OR FOR A "LIVING". some girls ACTUALLY make something out of themselves and work NORMAL jobs, only escorting here and there for __their_reason_here__.

When I said escorts can't make a living dating only good looking clients, I said FULL-TIME. Taking clients in your leisure, why working a NORMAL job, is not escorting FULL TIME. You're debating a point, that is null and void. Obviously, if you have another means of supporting yourself, you can be highly selective in the clients you chose to have relations with. However, if TS Siera isn't escorting part-time, then your point is invalid. Note: most providers on Eros are full-time.



third... WTF are you talking about w/ this random comment?
It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. WHAT???

If you comprehended the example, about the drunken, trailer trash white woman on "Taxi Cab Confessions", who said a black man would have to be good looking, rich and famous, to get a date with her, you would have understood the correlation. Obviously, some white females have such a issue with this, that the only black man that is worthy of their time, is some attractive, buffed wealthy entertainer/athlete type. And this is the point of view of a white women at the lowest rung, so imagine the perspective of some so called "good white women". Someone with common sense, can understand the point I'm making. However, people's biased opinions will render them helpless, to connect the dots. It's this whole, even though I'm at the lowest of the low, my skin and race give me eniough equity to demand more of a black man than I would from a white man. Obviously, this viewpoint is bullshit, but it's not as uncommon as you would think.



fourth.... you said " I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him. "

congradu-fucking-lations... i know their cheating husbands.

and partially?? why would ANYONE marry someone they are only PARTIALLY attracted to?

FUCKING MONEY YOU MORON.

This is just a dumbass response bottomline! It reaks of arrogance and narcissism.

You're calling me a moron, when I never said these men had money. So, I'll be the moron, but since you assume, you made an ass of u. These men are regular working class dudes with government jobs and blue collar trades. They are decent providers, but their wives work F/T too. This endrun to money, just shows where your mind is. If you believe that all normal looking men must have money, in order to maintain a serious relationship with an attractive women, then you're immature and shallow.

This comment about knowing their cheating husbands is juvenile. Like your the fucking alpha and omega. All men cheat on their wives, all men cheat with trannies or gay men. This is just self-serving B.S, used for the self-aggrandizement of simpletons. In psychology terms, this pathology is known as "delusions of grandeur". Sure, men do cheat on their wives with escorts, but this blanket statement has no intellectual validity. It's just proof of a reactionary personality, who speaks before thinking.

Once again. Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later.

[tsntx]

^^ go "beat" your face w/ a bat until you meet your "maker" i have nothing further to discuss w/ you as youre an idiot. that is all. carry on being a fucking moron.

[Fox]

I know it's touchy, but this whole issue isn't even worth getting upset about. Dialogue is good, but at this point it's not really going anywhere.

[TJ347]

Discussions of differing opinions are fine, but at the end of the day, an intelligent argument is essentially worthless if those who are hearing it (or in this case reading it) are incapable of comprehending it. That is why I rarely bother giving too much thought to what I post here, as some people on HA clearly think "logic" is just some made-up word Mr. Spock used to say, that doesn't actually exist in the English language. Looking at the basis of some of the arguments people present in this thread, you can see what I mean.
Calling someone who has outlined their points clearly, supported them fully, and demonstrated the level of class appropriate for a debating of ideas a moron, and not countering any of their points with anything of substance, is very telling... and in fact says it all. This issue can't be summed up any better than Beatmaker summed it up, and if there is anyone out there who can counter that argument in an intelligent and coherent fashion, please do so, as all counter-arguments to date have been either ridiculous, indecipherable, racist or a combination of the three.

[tsntx]

Discussions of differing opinions are fine, but at the end of the day, an intelligent argument is essentially worthless if those who are hearing it (or in this case reading it) are incapable of comprehending it. That is why I rarely bother giving too much thought to what I post here, as some people on HA clearly think "logic" is just some made-up word Mr. Spock used to say, that doesn't actually exist in the English language. Looking at the basis of some of the arguments people present in this thread, you can see what I mean.
Calling someone who has outlined their points clearly, supported them fully, and demonstrated the level of class appropriate for a debating of ideas a moron, and not countering any of their points with anything of substance, is very telling... and in fact says it all. This issue can't be summed up any better than Beatmaker summed it up, and if there is anyone out there who can counter that argument in an intelligent and coherent fashion, please do so, as all counter-arguments to date have been either ridiculous, indecipherable, racist or a combination of the three.his post is all wrong. and if you agree w/ him then youre not paying attn. i got upset b/c the idiot used words like "most" "partially" and "kelly shore said/ feels this way" as to say that w/e the hell kelly says is what im saying

i dont appreciate someone trying to put me on blast and make me their puppet hoping ill say some rascist comment, when im not now nor ever have been rascist, so they can only further try to get me in hot water. its not going to happen b/c i dont feel that way. so stfu about ME. u have beef w/ the whore... THEN CALL HER AND TELL HER. you have beef w/ what kelly said... THEN TELL HER. dont put others thoughts in a post directed at me.

[Legend]

This whole thing really isn't that big of a deal aren't we talking about escorting here, i mean if this was some kind of discrimination like being turned down a job because of your skin color then thats something to get worked up about but not because some escort refuse you.

It's just more important issues to stand up against besides escorting.

[tsntx]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"

[Legend]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"

I just think this isn't a matter to "fight the power" way more important issues out there today and escorting isn't even on the list.

[TJ347]

I just think this isn't a matter to "fight the power" way more important issues out there today and escorting isn't even on the list.

You're of course right about there being bigger issues out there, but come on! Escorts who are perceived as being racists is what the thread is about, and that's what people are here talking about. If it wasn't something people wanted to talk about, it wouldn't still be an active thread. I understand fully where it's pointless ultimately, but then, find me a thread that isn't...

[MacShreach]

Unfortunately there are two completely different and apparently incompatible prerogatives here; people's right not to be discriminated against on the grounds of race, creed or colour, and a person's right to choose with whom that person has sex. The money angle is an irrelevant red herring.

Having experienced discrimination against myself in my travels, either because I was white, from a Christian background, wrongly identified as either American or English, or because I was correctly identified as a Scot, I have some idea of the hurt that is caused by it. And I have seen how quickly some people here play the race card.

My experience has been very mild, however; I KNOW it must be many, many times worse to be routinely discriminated against because of your colour in the country you were born and raised in. I have great sympathy for the men who are complaining here. Many arguments against racism have been eloquently put in this thread, and I agree with most if not all of them.

BUT you simply can't get round the fact that a person has the right to choose with whom to have sex. Suggesting otherwise is to suggest some sort of contractual rape. You may disagree with that person's reasons, but that's where it ends. Even if the reasons ARE racist, bigoted, discriminatory or unfair, that does not mean that her (in this case) right to say "no" is invalidated.

IT IS NO MAN'S RIGHT THAT ANY WOMAN HE CHOOSES SHOULD HAVE SEX WITH HIM, WHETHER HE'S GOT A FIST FULL OF CASH OR NOT.

If you don't accept that basic tenet you're putting yourself way beyond the pale.

As for the girl putting the phone down on the OP, that interested me. It did sound like ignorance and rudeness. However it happens that I was in a position to ask an acquaintance (GG) who books over the phone about this very point and her answer was telling.

She said that if she decided she didn't want to go with the guy, she just hung up and that was that. I said that seemed rude and asked why and she said "If you don't hang up they'll curse at you and shout down the phone at you and call you names. The easiest is not to give them that chance."

Maybe the girl the OP phoned is a rude, ignorant, small-minded, racist bigot. It doesn't matter; when she says no it's time to move on, quit bitching and PLEASE no more of this ludicrous "She's a whore so she HAS to fuck me" pseudo-moralising crap.

[TJ347]

Does the escort have to fuck a guy, just because he has money? No.
If she doesn't fuck a guy solely because of his race, is that racist? Yes.

The first one is pretty easy for most to get their head around.
The difficulty is getting some people to understand why the second is true.

[tsntx]

shit happens. deal w/ it. call any of the other 3000 trannie hookers you guys gossip about daily... surely a few will take you... the ones that dont... BIG DEAL!

why do you wanna bitch and moan about how your money wasnt even good enough for an unattractive *imo* girl anyway? be glad you still have your $250 to take to someone more attractive and willing to treat you w/ some respect.

[drock]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.


LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass!

[johnnyshemalelover]

I love TS escorts, but there are some out there who are racist. There is one TS escort named TS Siara who operates around NY/NJ.
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/ny-missd1-siara1.htm
I called her twice. Both times she hung up on me just because I said I was black. She didn't even give a reason. I mean, not all of us are thugs or gangstas, especially the ones (like myself) who like transexual/transgendered women. I definitely think that all TS escorts should give every person of any race a fair chance, especially since they are getting paid for their time and services. I don't know, maybe she had a bad experience or something, but she didn't even post what race she perfers to escort for in her ad. If she wrote, "just whites and hispanics" (whom I believe she perfers) only in her ad, I would probably of paid it no mind. Please post up any other TS escorts, who seems the same way, hopefully there is only a few of them out there.

I couldn't find her there. Apparently she's been kicked off? That's pretty low to hang up on someone for being a certain race. She could at least have explained that she has a problem with black men and said she was sorry and referred you to another t-girl. She's not right in the head, apparently.

[goldensamba]

Some girls just aren't physically attracted to a black man, white man, asians, whatever. People always make it a skin issue when a lot of times it has to do with bone structure and eye color. That sort of thing.

In this particular case there was no way for that to be true. He said he was black and she hung up. She didn't ask his eye color or anything else. Therefore it was a racial decision.

Trying to protect ignorance with more ignorance is great.

[houstonshemalefan]

"too buku, too buku!"

[TsVanessa69]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.


LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass! Amen and amen again, preach!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

[arnie666]

A couple of times when seeing an escort they have asked what I look like one even wanted a pic sent to her . I had no probs with that as I just thought she was fussy. Don't blame her really as if I was a male escort I would only have sex with fit milfs .

Didn't see it how you lot are seeing it. I think it depends the reasons for not seeing Black males. If it is an attractiveness issue fair enough. I wouldn't see an asian escort for that reason. As everyone is attracted to different types of people. I tend to try see Black escorts for that reason.

But if she is going off a stereotype then that is wrong there are wankers in all races. Reminds me a bit of the signs in the bed and breakfasts 'no blacks or irish' .

However I think she has a right to refuse any customer she doesn't like for whatever reason. It's just a shame we all can't be a bi more openminded about different races.

[MacShreach]

I don't think you quite understand the magnitude of the situation at all.

I think I do and if you read my post you would see that you have my support. What I am saying is no matter the rights or wrongs of the reasons why, no matter the iniquity or offensiveness of racism, there is simply no way round the fact that people have the right to choose whom they have sex with.

They can't be forced either to agree to sex or justify why they said no because a guy is holding money either, whether the person is a whore or not and whether the man is black or not. That is because these things-- the right to say no to sex and not have to explain yourself-- are accepted core human rights in civilised societies. So you can't redress the wrong of a girl's racism by forcing her to have sex. Therefore it is a stalemate.

Fight this fight where it can be won-- in the workplace, the marketplace, housing, education, wherever, and I'm right behind you. This is a cul-de-sac.

[tetsuo]

TSNTX, I have to laugh at your post. It kills me, how people act like what you're saying doesn't phase them, yet your sitting at your keyboard, typing away, while foaming at the mouth like Cujo with a bunch of rants and obscenities.

The fact that you resorted to name calling, vulgarities and all these bolded fonts shows two things. 1) What I said struck a nerve. 2) You have little emotional intelligence. People who can't express themselves intelligently in defense of their positions, are usually tempermental and impulsive. Yeah, you can front and come back with a response more simple-minded than your first one, but who are you kidding!



first off.... fuck you. dont put words in my mouth. dont use SOMEONE ELSES arguements for the reasons THEY dont see black men as MY OWN.


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

TSNTX, have you heard of the term "deductive reasoning"? I don't need to put words in your mouth. You have advocated TS Siera's treatment of Kocconutz throughout this entire thread. Right or wrong? So, why would you defend someone you don't know from Adam, so stridently, unless you agree with their position? You not her friggin message board attorney, so why then? Most sane, sensible people don't waste keystrokes defending people's actions, unless they agree with them. At least someone with a modicum of common sense won't.



second.... you said
"we all know that MOST escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients.keyword is MOST. you said it YOURSELF. MOST not ALL. NOT ALL ESCORTS DO IT FOR "MONEY" OR FOR A "LIVING". some girls ACTUALLY make something out of themselves and work NORMAL jobs, only escorting here and there for __their_reason_here__.

When I said escorts can't make a living dating only good looking clients, I said FULL-TIME. Taking clients in your leisure, why working a NORMAL job, is not escorting FULL TIME. You're debating a point, that is null and void. Obviously, if you have another means of supporting yourself, you can be highly selective in the clients you chose to have relations with. However, if TS Siera isn't escorting part-time, then your point is invalid. Note: most providers on Eros are full-time.



third... WTF are you talking about w/ this random comment?
It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. WHAT???

If you comprehended the example, about the drunken, trailer trash white woman on "Taxi Cab Confessions", who said a black man would have to be good looking, rich and famous, to get a date with her, you would have understood the correlation. Obviously, some white females have such a issue with this, that the only black man that is worthy of their time, is some attractive, buffed wealthy entertainer/athlete type. And this is the point of view of a white women at the lowest rung, so imagine the perspective of some so called "good white women". Someone with common sense, can understand the point I'm making. However, people's biased opinions will render them helpless, to connect the dots. It's this whole, even though I'm at the lowest of the low, my skin and race give me eniough equity to demand more of a black man than I would from a white man. Obviously, this viewpoint is bullshit, but it's not as uncommon as you would think.



fourth.... you said " I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him. "

congradu-fucking-lations... i know their cheating husbands.

and partially?? why would ANYONE marry someone they are only PARTIALLY attracted to?

FUCKING MONEY YOU MORON.

This is just a dumbass response bottomline! It reaks of arrogance and narcissism.

You're calling me a moron, when I never said these men had money. So, I'll be the moron, but since you assume, you made an ass of u. These men are regular working class dudes with government jobs and blue collar trades. They are decent providers, but their wives work F/T too. This endrun to money, just shows where your mind is. If you believe that all normal looking men must have money, in order to maintain a serious relationship with an attractive women, then you're immature and shallow.

This comment about knowing their cheating husbands is juvenile. Like your the fucking alpha and omega. All men cheat on their wives, all men cheat with trannies or gay men. This is just self-serving B.S, used for the self-aggrandizement of simpletons. In psychology terms, this pathology is known as "delusions of grandeur". Sure, men do cheat on their wives with escorts, but this blanket statement has no intellectual validity. It's just proof of a reactionary personality, who speaks before thinking.

Once again. Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later. Okay first stop pretending that you are actually intelligent, so put down the dictionary and pay attention. I think tsntx knows a little more about this business than you. And why should you care that Siera doesnt take black clients? Every one should stop being babies and let go of your ego, get over it, find another provider who will take black clients.

[tetsuo]

TSNTX, I have to laugh at your post. It kills me, how people act like what you're saying doesn't phase them, yet your sitting at your keyboard, typing away, while foaming at the mouth like Cujo with a bunch of rants and obscenities.

The fact that you resorted to name calling, vulgarities and all these bolded fonts shows two things. 1) What I said struck a nerve. 2) You have little emotional intelligence. People who can't express themselves intelligently in defense of their positions, are usually tempermental and impulsive. Yeah, you can front and come back with a response more simple-minded than your first one, but who are you kidding!



first off.... fuck you. dont put words in my mouth. dont use SOMEONE ELSES arguements for the reasons THEY dont see black men as MY OWN.


she doesnt need to advertise that she doesnt see black guys ... apparently she has a way to discourage that *she hangs up on them* .... is it rude? sure... would it save her time to put that in her ad? .... prob not... then guys that get pissy about the fact she doesnt see black guys and would make posts on an internet forum about it, would call her non-stop just to fuck w/ her and tell her shes a rascists cunt or some other words that were used to describe her here.. only further justifying her self imposed rule of not seeing black guys

TSNTX, have you heard of the term "deductive reasoning"? I don't need to put words in your mouth. You have advocated TS Siera's treatment of Kocconutz throughout this entire thread. Right or wrong? So, why would you defend someone you don't know from Adam, so stridently, unless you agree with their position? You not her friggin message board attorney, so why then? Most sane, sensible people don't waste keystrokes defending people's actions, unless they agree with them. At least someone with a modicum of common sense won't.



second.... you said
"we all know that MOST escorts can't make a decent living by being a full-time escort, only taking good looking (in their eyes) clients.keyword is MOST. you said it YOURSELF. MOST not ALL. NOT ALL ESCORTS DO IT FOR "MONEY" OR FOR A "LIVING". some girls ACTUALLY make something out of themselves and work NORMAL jobs, only escorting here and there for __their_reason_here__.

When I said escorts can't make a living dating only good looking clients, I said FULL-TIME. Taking clients in your leisure, why working a NORMAL job, is not escorting FULL TIME. You're debating a point, that is null and void. Obviously, if you have another means of supporting yourself, you can be highly selective in the clients you chose to have relations with. However, if TS Siera isn't escorting part-time, then your point is invalid. Note: most providers on Eros are full-time.



third... WTF are you talking about w/ this random comment?
It's almost like a heterosexual male escort refusing to date a male client. The physically attraction issue is just surface level, but viscerally they feel being with a black man would somehow tarnish or violate them. WHAT???

If you comprehended the example, about the drunken, trailer trash white woman on "Taxi Cab Confessions", who said a black man would have to be good looking, rich and famous, to get a date with her, you would have understood the correlation. Obviously, some white females have such a issue with this, that the only black man that is worthy of their time, is some attractive, buffed wealthy entertainer/athlete type. And this is the point of view of a white women at the lowest rung, so imagine the perspective of some so called "good white women". Someone with common sense, can understand the point I'm making. However, people's biased opinions will render them helpless, to connect the dots. It's this whole, even though I'm at the lowest of the low, my skin and race give me eniough equity to demand more of a black man than I would from a white man. Obviously, this viewpoint is bullshit, but it's not as uncommon as you would think.



fourth.... you said " I know plenty of GG women, who are in happy marraiges with men, they are partially attracted to physically, but they saw the whole man and that is why they love and married him. "

congradu-fucking-lations... i know their cheating husbands.

and partially?? why would ANYONE marry someone they are only PARTIALLY attracted to?

FUCKING MONEY YOU MORON.

This is just a dumbass response bottomline! It reaks of arrogance and narcissism.

You're calling me a moron, when I never said these men had money. So, I'll be the moron, but since you assume, you made an ass of u. These men are regular working class dudes with government jobs and blue collar trades. They are decent providers, but their wives work F/T too. This endrun to money, just shows where your mind is. If you believe that all normal looking men must have money, in order to maintain a serious relationship with an attractive women, then you're immature and shallow.

This comment about knowing their cheating husbands is juvenile. Like your the fucking alpha and omega. All men cheat on their wives, all men cheat with trannies or gay men. This is just self-serving B.S, used for the self-aggrandizement of simpletons. In psychology terms, this pathology is known as "delusions of grandeur". Sure, men do cheat on their wives with escorts, but this blanket statement has no intellectual validity. It's just proof of a reactionary personality, who speaks before thinking.

Once again. Shallow people are doomed to live a shallow existence, if not now then later. Okay first stop pretending that you are actually intelligent, so put down the dictionary and pay attention. I think tsntx knows a little more about this business than you. And why should you care that Siera doesnt take black clients? Every one should stop being babies and let go of your ego, get over it, find another provider who will take black clients.

[TJ347]

I SAY AGAIN:
Does the escort have to fuck a guy, just because he has money? No.
If she doesn't fuck a guy solely because of his race, is that racist? Yes.

The first one is pretty easy for most to get their head around.
The difficulty is getting some people to understand why the second is true.

[TomSelis]

I SAY AGAIN:
Does the escort have to fuck a guy, just because he has money? No.
If she doesn't fuck a guy solely because of his race, is that racist? Yes.

The first one is pretty easy for most to get their head around.
The difficulty is getting some people to understand why the second is true.

Man, I told you just let it go. This has to be like the ninth thread like this and it always ends up the same way.

Hurt Guy: "This escort wouldn't see me because I'm black."

Postersin denile: "So what? It's her body. It's her right. Get over it."

Hurt Guy: Never responds again.

RealisticPosters: "Not seeing someone because of their skin color is racist. It's alright Hurt Guy, other girls will see you."

Postersin denile: "No it's not racist. It's her right."

RealisticPosters: "It's still racist."

Postersin denile: "No it's not."

RealisticPosters: "Yes it is...."

See, the realistic thing is to just speak on it and let it go. That's why it's racism, because it can be extreme or it could be a grey area like this. But in the end, it's still real life and sometimes a right hook comes out of nowhere and catches you off-guard....even when you're indulging a fantasy.

[drock]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.


LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass! Amen and amen again, preach!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

LOL :lol: :lol:

[johnnyshemalelover]

I SAY AGAIN:
Does the escort have to fuck a guy, just because he has money? No.
If she doesn't fuck a guy solely because of his race, is that racist? Yes.

The first one is pretty easy for most to get their head around.
The difficulty is getting some people to understand why the second is true.

Man, I told you just let it go. This has to be like the ninth thread like this and it always ends up the same way.

Hurt Guy: "This escort wouldn't see me because I'm black."

Postersin denile: "So what? It's her body. It's her right. Get over it."

Hurt Guy: Never responds again.

RealisticPosters: "Not seeing someone because of their skin color is racist. It's alright Hurt Guy, other girls will see you."

Postersin denile: "No it's not racist. It's her right."



I got the impression she was racist in the "bad" sense because she hung up on the guy. That was rude and inconsiderate, and according to what the guy said, the only provocation (which it wasn't any excuse, really) was telling her that he's black.

Refusing to date black people because you are turned off by their race meets the dictionary definition of racism, but it's not offensive behavior at all. People are attracted to or turned off by different things. Refusing to have sex with someone because you're turned off by their race is not a bad thing or a good thing. However it is possible to state so openly and up front and to be gentle about it. The escort seemed to bear malice toward the caller simply because he was black, and that certainly is offensive behavior.

Racism itself is neutral in one sense of the word. It means treating someone differently because of their race. In that definition if a woman prefers black men, she's racist, whether she's black or white or purple with orange spots. She's racist because she gives black men preferential (different) treatment. Nothing wrong with that at all, of course. It's natural for people to be attracted to different things. That's one meaning of the word racism.

In another meaning of the word racism, it's a bad thing--it means treating someone badly because of their race. That's a whole world of different from treating someone differently because of their race.

If I was an escort and I had a hang-up which caused me to find, say, blond hair gross and disgusting, I would have to turn down anyone with blond hair because I'm not a good enough actor to fake enjoyment when I am that turned off--therefore I would not give good service to blond people, no matter how much I wanted to. I wouldn't bear them any ill will because I don't have a moral problem with blond hair, and I'd be happy to service them if I was a taxi driver or a dentist or a store owner, because my hang-up wouldn't inhibit my ability to give them quality service.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I got the impression she was racist in the "bad" sense because she hung up on the guy.

There's a good sense?

[TsVanessa69]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.


LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass! Amen and amen again, preach!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

LOL :lol: :lol:See now she shut the fuck up and went back to her empty pointless yahoo groups, and left here. I tell these girls, don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk! And isn't it funny, she has a black boyfriend!!

[TJ347]

LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass! Amen and amen again, preach!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

LOL :lol: :lol:See now she shut the fuck up and went back to her empty pointless yahoo groups, and left here. I tell these girls, don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk! And isn't it funny, she has a black boyfriend!!

As un-"Sexy" Chanel is completely ridiculous, I truly feel for that poor fellow... Who besides having to deal with her bullshit, is obviously also blind, making his life difficult all around. :smh

[a994]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"


If I were to go to an escort and she turned me down because of my race or for whatever reason, that's her choice. (Also it's her problem if she IS racist.) I'm also not going to waste my time in trying to beg her to change her mind, feel sorry for me, and be with me in spite of her feelings.

I only want to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me.

[Solitary Brother]

To the guys that are offended by "racist" escorts............go find someone else.
You guys are pussies!
Find someone that isnt racist!
Did she hurt your feelings so bad that you have to come here and vent?
The answer is yes for many of you since this topic is a recurring theme.
Get off it!
Be a man and move on.
We all face rejecting by women for various reasons........dont let it be the defining moment on your life!
This is one topic that just kills me.....there are over a billion women on earth.
MOVE ON MY BROTHERS!!!!!!

[a994]

Does the escort have to fuck a guy, just because he has money? No.
If she doesn't fuck a guy solely because of his race, is that racist? Yes.




True. And I'll just move on, because such a woman is one whom I wouldn't waste my time with anyway.

Also I agree with those who have postulated that there are far more important situations to deal with where race can become a factor. One must pick one's battles.

[a994]

See now she shut the fuck up and went back to her empty pointless yahoo groups, and left here. I tell these girls, don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk! And isn't it funny, she has a black boyfriend!!


Sheesh. Sometimes I'd swear "HA" REALLY stands for "Hypocrites'Association" with all of these posts I read here.

[TrueBeauty TS]

:popcorn






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[TJ347]

Sometimes I'd swear "HA" REALLY stands for "Hypocrites'Association" with all of these posts I read here.

Sometimes? :wink:

[johnnyshemalelover]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"


If I were to go to an escort and she turned me down because of my race or for whatever reason, that's her choice. (Also it's her problem if she IS racist.) I'm also not going to waste my time in trying to beg her to change her mind, feel sorry for me, and be with me in spite of her feelings.

I only want to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me.

Well said, and a healthy attitude.

[Legend]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"


If I were to go to an escort and she turned me down because of my race or for whatever reason, that's her choice. (Also it's her problem if she IS racist.) I'm also not going to waste my time in trying to beg her to change her mind, feel sorry for me, and be with me in spite of her feelings.

I only want to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me.

Well said, and a healthy attitude.

That's just simple logic girl doesn't want to be with you so you move on to the next one.Complaining will accomplish nothing that's why this thread has been for pure entertainment purposes only.

[johnnyshemalelover]

someone already made that EXACT post legend in the first page or 2... yet ppl still get pissed bc they think just bc theyre "willing" to pay she should jump at the chance to "play"


If I were to go to an escort and she turned me down because of my race or for whatever reason, that's her choice. (Also it's her problem if she IS racist.) I'm also not going to waste my time in trying to beg her to change her mind, feel sorry for me, and be with me in spite of her feelings.

I only want to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with me.

Well said, and a healthy attitude.

That's just simple logic girl doesn't want to be with you so you move on to the next one.Complaining will accomplish nothing that's why this thread has been for pure entertainment purposes only.

Simple logic for you, not so simple for people who have feelings about the issue. Emotions displace logic in a way that's practically invisible to the individual. Probably the most important thing you can learn when it comes to understanding others and why the world is the way it is called "confirmation bias" and it works like this:

People decide what to believe based on emotions, then look for any evidence or reasoning to support their decision, but they perceive the opposite; that they found the evidence and did the reasoning first and arrived at their decision through weighing of the evidence and reasoning! Furthermore, all evidence which would prove their belief is untrue they dismiss as biased or unimportant; or they simply forget about it. This has been shown repeatedly through psychological research. You can see it for yourself if you don't believe the research--but you have to look carefully.

The stronger someone's feelings are on a subject, the more likely they are to apply confirmation bias.

It's easiest to see this happening in people with whom you disagree. More difficult to see it happening in people with whom you agree. Practically impossible to see it happening in yourself. Almost everyone believes they're an exception to this rule, but this is one rule that has no exceptions.

When you examine logic, you'll see that while it has many practical applications, it's fundamentally flawed when applied to the nature of reality. Logic is a useful delusion.

What's the problem with logic? Well, the problem is that in order to reach a conclusion you have to have at least two knowns, and in reality there aren't two knowns. Again, this isn't so for practical use--I'm referring to the larger reality of the nature of existence.

Sorry for the threadjack. :)

[brickcitybrother]

Ok ... I have NOT read all 18 pages of this mess. I do remember the discussion the Moderator mentioned (which happened here about 2 years ago because I was a part of it).

1. She's racist and we all know it. Let's move on. She is neither the first or last.

2. Girls have preferences (like guys do). However, this is about business and in business money is what counts first. And lest we forget, everyones' money is green. I do not turn away my clients because they are of a certain race or nationality. Of course, I am not a racist.

3. Once you as the client acknowledge 1. and 2., then it becomes easier to find a provider who will appreciate you for you and act accodingly.

4. More likely than not, you will get past this and realize that there is someone else who is probably better looking, with whom you will have a better experience.

5. Personally, when it happened to me (and the provider I'm talking about could not tell I was black, but did ask me, stating: 'I don't f#ck with black men, too much time and effort') I was initially upset as well. But over a very short period of time, I was actually happy to know this fact upfront and avoid what would have been a very unpleasant experience. I share my info with others who need to know and keep on moving.

:2cent










Brickcity (I'm not really back and wouldn't make a big deal if I was - lol).

[penny-trayshun]

i once argued with an escort about her decision not to meet black guys. she said every black guy she ever met tried to rape or steal from her.

ive met a lot of guys from all ethnic backgrounds and never experienced anything bad.

at the end of the day i suppose if an escort chooses not meet any type of group of men its her personal choice. i dont want to meet obese men- due to physical difficulties rather than not finding them attractive. i happen to like "cuddly" guys but i do have a limit. i explain this on my website.

its not racist if the girl displays on her website that she doesnt meet a certain type of guy. but i think its wrong to hang up if she realises u r black on phone and doesnt want to meet. its also damned rude.


www.birchplace.com/ixora

[johnnyshemalelover]

I got the impression she was racist in the "bad" sense because she hung up on the guy.

There's a good sense?

No, but there's a neutral sense, which I explained in that post. The human mind constantly makes judgments whether the judger is aware of it or not. Trying to stop making judgments about any particular thing is impossible. However, it is possible to be aware of one's judgments, and to accept them as trivial and likely to be incorrect. It's also possible to refrain from acting on judgments.

The two words "racism" and "prejudice" are commonly used to mean the "bad" sense, which is using ones own prejudices to motivate or justify detrimental actions toward another. I don't condone wither of those actions.

[johnnyshemalelover]

Bottom line, IMO

The escort behaved badly toward the black man. I don't know what it feels like to be black, so I can't judge the guy's feelings. I do know what it feels like to be treated like a piece of shit because of something about myself I can't change, though. That's essentially what she did to him. And that really stinks.

If she has a problem with black guys, she should state this clearly in her ad. Whether or not such a preference is racist is moot. People can't help what they're attracted to or turned off by.

[Killah]

Trannies can't afford to be racist. Especially since the gay/trans community as a whole is just barely accepted and hardly respected.

[beatmaker]

^^ go "beat" your face w/ a bat until you meet your "maker" i have nothing further to discuss w/ you as youre an idiot. that is all. carry on being a fucking moron.

It's amazing how someone can call you a "moron" in the midst of leaving a moronic response. "Beat" your face with a bat until you meat your "maker". Bitch please! That shyt was corny and stupid. Try again. Maybe you can be funny because you clearly aren't intelligent. Maybe, you have more redeeming qualities, than putting on makeup and wearing designer clothes. Where are PeggyGee, BrendaTS, or Vicki Richter, when you need them. They can disagree with someone and still have dialogue with some class, sophistication and most importantly intelligence. I'm sick of these 2-Dimensional broads, who post mindless drivel on this board.

[happyjack]

oh please,stop your fucking whining because somebody doesnt like you,,maybe you came off like an asshole whining little bitch like you do in this post,and she doesnt like that?oh no,caN T be because you a black man and thats the reason,,so shut the fuck up and deal with it and get a life....

[ARMANIXXX]

oh please,stop your fucking whining because somebody doesnt like you,,maybe you came off like an asshole whining little bitch like you do in this post,and she doesnt like that?oh no,caN T be because you a black man and thats the reason,,so shut the fuck up and deal with it and get a life....

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You're commin off kinda wrong here dude. Why does OP have to be all kinds of bitches? Some girls don't like black men, this is obvious, but it still sucks hard to be treated that way.



In fact, here's my old post on the experience.
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=10581&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=racist+tranny+hookers

[beatmaker]

first stop pretending that you are actually intelligent, so put down the dictionary and pay attention. I think tsntx knows a little more about this business than you. And why should you care that Siera doesnt take black clients? Every one should stop being babies and let go of your ego, get over it, find another provider who will take black clients.

Tetsuo aka "Captain Save-A-Ho", why are meddling in a conversation, that has nothing to do with you.

First, let me just clear up two false statements you've made. First, I don't pay escorts for sex, even though I've paid a GG or TS a few bucks for a brief lapdance on occasion. Shyt, I make good money, so that's nothing. Furthermore, I primarily deal with black TS/GG women and sometimes Latinas, if I can gauge that they aren't on that racist bullshyt. Sure, you have beautiful white TS/GG's like Jennifer Paris who I wouldn't refuse, if I felt a "mutual" attraction. However, my name isn't O.J Simpson, so I don't chase, beg or pay white women or brown, black or blue women for that matter to have sex with me. Don't take my posts on this issue, as being some malcontent, sick of being rejected by Eros escorts. Last time I paid for sex, it was a $20 blowjob, when I was 18 y.o in the mid 90's, down in the West 20's, where the hookers and nightclubs used to be. Once again, if your going to refuse a blackman for "not being your type", why are willing to sleep with the fat, hairy old whiteguy with the B.O and halitosis breath. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here. I mean if these broads had a choose between a brother who looked like Kobe Bryant versus John Belushi, to say it's personal preference to choice the latter is B.S. It's a racial hangup, let's just keep it real folks. I'm more getting at the B.S muthafuchas in this thread, trying to defend this TS Siera chick, not the actually escort herself. She is a bigot and obviously proud of it. What I'm sick of, are the people trying to defend her behavior, just like Imus, Michael Richards and others. IT IS WHAT IT IS. Many times, these same people will call Al Sharpton a racist in the same breath, as they defend a racist provider or celebrity. I see this B.S on HA all the time. In conclussion, all of the racist TS's are entitled to how they think and feel, but when some insensitive guy your flirting with at the nightclub, calls you a "fag in a wig" or some other harsh comment when you approach him, don't get mad and call him a homophobe. If you can dish it out, be ready to take it!

As far "pretending to be intelligent" or "putting away the dictionary", this is analogous to this fat guy I used to work with, who accused every buffed guy of being on steroids. It's a bitchy remark, coming from a bitchy man! I guess this is what you and TSNTX have in common. I have a college degree, a successful business and part of my business requires me to write a lot. So, this hater B.S about "trying to be intelligent", is just the rantings of a fool, who is probably either not intelligent himself and threatened by someone who is and feels the need to tear them down or you assume that any African-American who writes poignantly, must be plagiarizing, copying out of a dictionary or thesaurus. Whether you agree with me or not Tetsuo, has it dawned on you, that I actually could be intelligent. Maybe, you prefer my postings to be riddled with Ebonics, the N word and other ghetto bullshit. My mother always told me, that SOME in the larger society will be threatened by any black man or woman, who is more intelligent or successful than them. It's why so many successful black man have stories about being pulled over in expensive cars, only to have some cop (usually white) try to humiliate them and "get the upper hand". Basically, to put the negro in his place. So, that crap you said about me "trying", is you "trying" to interject some bullshit into the debate. Dude, I don't TRY in life, I DO!

On another note, let me clear up one thing about me. I believe everyone is entitled to date who they want in their personal lives, but what I do have a problem with, are people who are using the concept of "personal preference" to defend feelings of bigotry and racial superiority. Oprah, (yeah I said Oprah) had a really good show today on self-hatred in our young people, especially youth of color. Wanting to be lighter and whiter for the most part. No wonder why Beyonce and Halle Berry are he only sistas getting props in the mainstream media. Can Gabrielle Union or Kelly Rowland get some love too? This definitely sends a subconscious signal to children of color, then people like to say "Look how you discriminate against each other, you have no room to criticize whites". This is a ploy, without any historically reference. This color caste crap plays itself out in adulthood, even with escorts and who they decide to date. If you look at Latin Television, it's a virtually blackout, with the exception of musicians and athletes, so it's no wonder so many Latin providers will shun Black men. I ride the subways in NYC to work and Latinos are usually the people I overhear, making offensive comments about blacks or black physical traits (hair texture, complexion etc.) Other races and ethnicities at least wait until they're around each other or the internet. So, this ain't just about white against black people.

I personally would never date a white women romatically. Why? This very discussion is why. Even, if the woman your dating is very open-minded, the chances are some of her friends and family are going to be on that bullshit and think you're beneath her. At this juncture, I really wouldn't pursue a serious relationship with a Latina either for those same reasons. Jennifer Lopez's parents hated Puffy, but liked Ben Affleck, wonder why? Her sister newswomen Linda Lopez eluded to the fact, her father didn't allow them to date black guys, when they grew up in the Bronx. I used to hang in Castle Hill where they grew up and it's about 50/50 in terms of Blacks and Latinos. In his book Notorious C.O.P, NYPD Hip-Hop Unit cop Derrick Parker recalled one story about Jennifer Lopez being in the back of a police car after the Club NY shooting she and Puffy were involved in and her mother making some racist comments in Spanish and warning her about that "moreno", thru the speakerphone (I guess she was handcuffed). I wonder when Ben Affleck was caught on tape, coked up and eating out some stripper's coochie he didn't even know, what Mama Lopez had to say about that. I bet she gave J.Lo the whole "Men will be men" speech and that he's a good catch. I remember one white female comedianne on BET, joking about how her white friends and family would castigate her, for doing so many shows on BET and at black comedy clubs, basically asking her "What are you trying to be Black now". While she is cool, her friends and family are people I would butt heads with. I have a buddy of my mines, I used to work with. I ran into him two summers ago downtown. We went to Starbucks to shoot the breeze for a minute. He always tried to run the "Your being closeminded for not dating white women" thing on me. Funny thing, he was telling me that the white women he was dating at the time was O.K, but the family and friends B.S, were the death blow to the relationship. Sure, they had financial problems and she was very jealous (especially of very attractive black women in their presence). I guess she felt subconsciously, that those were the types he really went for. Anyway, one of their final arguments had to deal with a situation, that occurred at a party at her best friend's house. My boy, said her best friend always gave him cold vibes, when she would come around but he shook it off to keep the peace. Anyway, much like the sales associate that wants to racially profile at the local department store and follow you around and peak around corners, she would do this everytime he left the crowd to use the bathroom or to get away from the noise and music, to speak on his cell phone. Some of the shit was just blatant. Her best friend, really felt my boy was going to start stealing her personal items if left unattended. The irony of it, was that his girlfriend had gotten arrested for shoplifting in high school and this best friend knew about it. He kept a cool head about it, but brought it up to his girlfriend, when they got home and she accused him of being paranoid and delusional. Claimed he was playing the "race card". He said after that, he would never get into a serious interracial relationship, until he met her family and good friends to see where their heads were at. I have little patience for people and their feelings of perceived superiority, so I've just removed myself from that situation altogether. However, that is in my personal life. I have done plenty of business with whites, even when I didn't have to. Also let me stay this, I find beauty in all races. I've seen more than my share of fine white chicks. So this, "The only black person I've ever seen that was attractive is Shemar Moore" nonsense, is just lunacy. The women I'm most attracted to are black and latino. However, living in NYC, I see woman from all walks of life, that could definitely share my bed with me. One guy in another thread said "The only black woman he's attracted to is Halle Berry" another said Beyonce Knowles. I don't know where they are from, but if they live in large, diverse city, I find this hard to believe. In NYC, I see Black women everyday (especially with this summer weather), who are just as beautiful as those two. Most won't be, but how many white woman in NYC will be prettier than Angelina Jolie. My point is, these statements are like the proverbial "I'm not racist, I have black friends" defense. I don't really like black women, but I do like Beyonce though! Give me a friggin break!

[beatmaker]

oh please,stop your fucking whining because somebody doesnt like you,,maybe you came off like an asshole whining little bitch like you do in this post,and she doesnt like that?oh no,caN T be because you a black man and thats the reason,,so shut the fuck up and deal with it and get a life....

Listen Happyjackass,

Please read my post above. I don't give two shyts about paying some white TS on Eros for sex, because I'm not even into white chicks for the most part. However, I've seen more than enough to appreciate the beauty in white women too, unlike some people in here who say ALL black GG's and TS's are ugly. Yeah, let a Black TS like Lola Malone or Jenysis flirt with them at the local TS club and see their dyck get harder than a roll of quarters. I have a white woman at my job, who looks way better than TSNTX, Kelly Shore, and 75% of the white TS's on Eros, I could hit for free if those were my intentions. I'm just not interested in waltzing around the office and local eateries with her, when they're black women I work with, that I'm much more attracted to. This female asked me to lunch like 3 times, then finally got the hint. I think she is on that Kim Kardashian or Carmen Electra (post Dennis Rodman) shyt. Short of straight sex, I wasn't interested in anything romantic, especially at the J.O.B. However, if I was a male escort, I would see women from all races, as long as they had good hygiene and weren't deformed or elderly. It's only good business. However, I would never escort or strip, so it doesn't really matter anyway. My point is, I damn sure ain't paying for it, with someone from Eros or wherever else, when I have numerous opportunities to get it for free. My posts were addressing a mindset prevelent in this forum (including yours), not looking for absolution from the Association of White and Latina TS Escorts. Please get it right dude!

You remind me of the dumbasses that say people that complain about discrimination are just poor, uneducated losers looking for handouts, but when it's Oprah or someone of means making these same points, all you do is call her "fat" or some other mindless comment.

Happyjackass, not everyone who posts on HA expressing their stance on a topic, is doing so from a biased vantage point. Obviously, you're to dim to understand that.

[TomSelis]

This again? It's funny that people are catching feelings more than the OP.

[TJ347]

Closet racists, who are attracted to transsexuals. HA really does have it all. What unknown demographic will appear next?

[taniatv]

Most black guys who call me tell me up front that they are black and ask if it is Ok. I tell them no problem, the last photo shoot I did was with a local black guy now client.

I used to try and guess by their voice if they don't give a description. It's often debated whether one can tell anothers ethnicity just by their voice.
In my experience...well I've assumed it's 50+ yr old white guys coming over to be greeted with 30 yr old black guys! So no you can't always tell.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

does it really matter? I could understand if you were on an island with a population of 10 you being the newcomer 11th and the only person of another nationality but that's not the case...........

[tssexychanel]

LOL this is nothing new.

Beggars can't be choosy especially when they're hurting in the looks department; you should be happy that someone even wants to look in your grill!

Obviously, you can't be me making a lot of money! For some old busted black Hag to have issues with Black Men only means that you're probably sleeping on the sidewalks of the streets at night because I damn sure can't see too many white guys wasting their money
on your tired ass! Amen and amen again, preach!!! :twisted: :lol: :twisted:

LOL :lol: :lol:See now she shut the fuck up and went back to her empty pointless yahoo groups, and left here. I tell these girls, don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk! And isn't it funny, she has a black boyfriend!!

As un-"Sexy" Chanel is completely ridiculous, I truly feel for that poor fellow... Who besides having to deal with her bullshit, is obviously also blind, making his life difficult all around. :smh


GUESS ITS LUCKY FOR ME YOU ARE SHIT THAT I WOULD STEP IN LET ALONE DATE. HAVE A NICE LIFE I LEFT THE TOPIC ALONE BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE. YOU GOT ENOUGH GIRLS HERE DOING THAT. AS UN SEXY AS I MAY BE THE OPINIONS OF SIMPLE MINDED PEOPLE MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ME. WHEN THERE IS AN INTELLEGENT OR INTERESTING TOPIC I WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY UNTIL THEN ITS ENOUGH FOOLISHNESS GODDESS NEED NOT OPEN HER MOUTH. THIS IS PERTAINING TO ALL CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN MY DOMAIN. YOUR TALK MEANS NOTHING FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM. MOVE ON LOSERS.

[ARMANIXXX]

As beatmaker alluded,

The reason this "I don't see black guys" sentiment seems to be such a hot button with some black people, is because the truth isn't just the attraction (lack thereof) factor. The truth is, the girls are afraid of black men. That these girls actually have the nerve and audacity to discriminate against black men on their percieved basis that somehow black men create an unsafe and threatening element/environment, THAT is the true offending element here.

Period and point blank.

[TomSelis]

Around and around it goes,
when people will leave it alone...nobody knows.

[ARMANIXXX]

but if many of the girls who feel this way have had those types of experiences, how is it wrong? The escort has the right to accept or refuse ANYONE at will. If you don't care for a certain person, certain types of people or even total groups...why should they get chastised because of it? That's their preference. It's the same as someone saying they don't like fat people, men, people with tattoos, etc...



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I almost want to pretend you didn't just say that. :|

[johnnyshemalelover]

but if many of the girls who feel this way have had those types of experiences, how is it wrong? The escort has the right to accept or refuse ANYONE at will. If you don't care for a certain person, certain types of people or even total groups...why should they get chastised because of it? That's their preference. It's the same as someone saying they don't like fat people, men, people with tattoos, etc...



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I almost want to pretend you didn't just say that. :|

How come? Just as there are people who are turned off by fat folks, men and tattoos, there are people who like those things also.

[johnnyshemalelover]

but if many of the girls who feel this way have had those types of experiences, how is it wrong? The escort has the right to accept or refuse ANYONE at will. If you don't care for a certain person, certain types of people or even total groups...why should they get chastised because of it? That's their preference. It's the same as someone saying they don't like fat people, men, people with tattoos, etc...



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I almost want to pretend you didn't just say that. :|

How come? Just as there are people who are turned off by fat folks, men and tattoos, there are people who like those things also.

You're missing the point. If it talks like one and walks like one. Then it is one. If someone is going to be something, then live up to the label that person has earned themselves.

A person who cuts down trees is a lumberjack. A person who works on combustion engines is a mechanic. A person who rejects, discriminates or intollerates another individual for or based on their color of the skin(ethnicity) is a racist (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist).

I see what you're saying now. But I have a question:
What's the word for a person who rejects, discriminates or intollerates another individual for or based on their weight?

Or on their tattoos?

Or on their looks? Lots of ugly people get rejected, but they can't help how they look of course. Calling anyone who rejects an ugly person "racist" isn't exactly correct. Looksist, maybe?

What about women who are turned off by hairy guys? Or by guys who lack hair?

Are heterosexuals who won't have sex with members of their own sex sexist? They have to be--they're rejecting and discriminating against another individual on the basis of sex, right?

Of course not, even though it fits the dictionary definition, it's an unfair label.

My point is this: I believe the person that hung up on you was racist. Not because she doesn't want to have sex with a certain race, but because she hung up on you. Hanging up on someone is a sign of contempt. Being sexually turned off by a certain race isn't in itself racist in the sense of bearing contempt for a certain race, unless the reason for being turned off itself is racist.

For example, if a white girl came home and saw her mom cheating on her dad with a black guy, it could cause a trauma that might turn her off to black guys. Not her fault, just the result of an unfortunate event which her mind associated with the most visually obvious thing about the man other than he's a man and he's schtupping her mom. It's an unconscious association over which she has no control. If her mom's lover was a white guy with a shaved head, she might then be turned off by white skinheads.

On the other hand, if someone thinks other races are inferior or whatever and that's why they are turned off by them, that's racist, big-time. Judging by the way she hung up on you, I'd say that the latter fits.

All I'm trying to say is that a women who doesn't date black guys does not necessarily harbor hatred, contempt or scorn for black people and on that basis alone, labeling her racist might fit the dictionary definition but the common meaning implies a small-minded person who views black people as inferior so it wouldn't be fair to apply it to her. That said, I'd reiterate that the bitch who hung up on you IS racist because she had obvious contempt for black folks.

[deadclan69]

Maybe the girl don't like black pubic hair. Does that make her/him racist? Or the contrast between pink and brown.

Even if she is racist, get over it. You can't expect everybody to like everybody. Stop pretending to be all loving. We are all a little bit racist.

Black people are the most racist people I have ever met. They even hate each others colour...

[DominantCad]

There are white women who only sleep with black men.
There are black me who only want to sleep with white women.
There are black women who only want to sleep with black men and hate the idea of black men and white women.
There are white men who only want to sleep with asian women.
There are white men who only want to sleep with white women and hate the idea of black men and white women.
Etc etc etc.

Are they racist or just picky ?

Its just as well we don't all like the same thing as there would be none left !!

Are we saying that Escorts should not have the right to choose who their clients are ? That they should be like london taxis or red london buses (legally required to stop providing they're "in service")

[johnnyshemalelover]

deadclan69, DominantCad:

I'm always humbled when someone says what I said but uses 1/20th the number of words to say it. :oops:

[TJ347]

Black people are the most racist people I have ever met. They even hate each others colour...

Yeah... paraphrasing Chris Rock doesn't do anything to make you look any less racist. You have a history of making racist comments, but want to say "black people are the most racist people" you've ever met? How about you try looking in the mirror before looking outside...

[loverboy1513]

HERE,S THE DEAL ,when it comes to sex - and interpersonal relationships , we all have the right to be racist , were not hiring at mcdonalds here , we are giving someone our most personal belonging - ourself . so if i dont like to sleep with indian women than so be it , does it make me a racist ? who cares . just because i dont like to sleep with indian women doesnt mean i hate them . i just dont want to stick my toung in there snatch .. same goes for this escort ,.- lets keep it real here ... i dont think allot of you guys would sleep with a 310 pound t.s - tg or gg with puss coming out of there ass , why not ? oh your a racist ? no you just dont like fat women with puss coming out of there ass . ....

[ARMANIXXX]

HERE,S THE DEAL ,when it comes to sex - and interpersonal relationships , we all have the right to be racist , were not hiring at mcdonalds here , we are giving someone our most personal belonging - ourself . so if i dont like to sleep with indian women than so be it , does it make me a racist ? who cares . just because i dont like to sleep with indian women doesnt mean i hate them . i just dont want to stick my toung in there snatch .. same goes for this escort ,.- lets keep it real here ... i dont think allot of you guys would sleep with a 310 pound t.s - tg or gg with puss coming out of there ass , why not ? oh your a racist ? no you just dont like fat women with puss coming out of there ass . ....


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I didn't say anything on my topic, because I kinda said I wouldn't.....sorta.


But since you pasted here, let me be brief.

The majority of escorts see old men, fat men, rude men, ugly men, smelly men, all types of fucked up men. And for a fee, They suck their dicks, let them cum on them, fuck them in the ass, rub cocks, even piss on them. Now you want to pretend as if giving up thier bodies for sex is a sacred, devine and so special it should be revered? Please fuckin please.

You also equated having sex with fat 300 pound trannies with puss out their ass as equivalent to having sex with some other races.



I have only 1 more thing to say:

[TJ347]

^^ :lol: ^^

[deadclan69]

TJ, for your information, I am black and I'm not paraphrasing anyone when I say black people are the most racist I have met. My "history" of racial statements I assume relates to an earlier post where I stated that I find the black ts on this site to be the least convincing of all the races.

There are a lot of chubby men in wigs being praised as the next Beyonce on here. I think it only fair to state my opinion rather than suck up to the escorts and webmasters who frequent this forum. I don't think we are ever going to solve the race issue on a website devoted to cocks and wanking.

[ARMANIXXX]

TJ, for your information, I am black and I'm not paraphrasing anyone when I say black people are the most racist I have met. My "history" of racial statements I assume relates to an earlier post where I stated that I find the black ts on this site to be the least convincing of all the races.

There are a lot of chubby men in wigs being praised as the next Beyonce on here. I think it only fair to state my opinion rather than suck up to the escorts and webmasters who frequent this forum. I don't think we are ever going to solve the race issue on a website devoted to cocks and wanking.


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http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=258985&highlight=#258985
BLACK TS ARE SO UGLY
All you yankee wankers out there must be gay if you like black ts. With a few exceptions the majority of black ts look like truckers or football players with chunky thighs, shaving bumps, bruises, nasty hairy asses. How you convince yourself that this is a feminine experience I don't know. Even the webmasters are posting pics of 50 year old men with beer guts and ingrown hairs as if they are the new TS J-Lo. The majority of black ts and some of the brazilians I see on this site are just men in drag, plain and simple. Quit with all the posturing and fronting about girls - you like to suck MEN'S dick - you are gay.



http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=150561&highlight=#150561
To all you yankee wankers out there, TS are men, some with better hair and tits than your sorry wives but there are no "girls" on this forum. TS are men so why all this gender denial bullshit? Get over your homo or bisexuality. You like to suck dick and pay for the privilege.



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You're a sad case of a man of African descent, assuming that's true. Your self hatred is both apparent appalling and certainly evident in the posts you make.

What's also clear by your post history, such as it is, you sir are a cunt.

Fortunately, I will not need to expound any further as your reputation, again, short lived as it is, speaks volumes upon yourself and the man to whom you see in the mirror every day.

May you one day find the peace in death that has so far eluded you in life.


Take care Mr. deadclan69

[Jennifer_English]

OK

so ive avoided this thread cos I dont like trouble....

BUT

Last week I had an Indian guy come see me... I didnt say no cos i'm NOT racist...

BUT

He was RUDE and Ingorant and smelt horrible.... He was nasty and when we (finally) finished tha hour... which I always give my best as I only EVER see one client a day

I said to him after tha hour. cause tha atmosphere wasn't cool n chillled n I wanted him to feel cool.. that things arnt normally like this n I bond with people much more... that this wasnt tha case..

his reply.... ?

'' yeah well I didnt bond with you either'' nice chap!

I was so insulted after all my efforts that it was all I could to tell him - was thanks '' im sorry we didnt bond''

Its NOT the fact he was indian... it was more the curry smell they carry... which frankly i find horrible and his rudeness and bluntness..

Personally I dont want to meet an asian or Indian again.... NOT for thier race.... just their smell 'n' attitude towards women GG or TG

Does that make me racist ??

xx

[I have edited this thread slightly as I was pretty mad when I originally posted]

[ARMANIXXX]

LOL


Calling all Asians and Indians.

Calling all Asians and Indians.

[Jennifer_English]

LOL - stfu ya piss takin bastad x x :O)`

[ARMANIXXX]

I've actually worked with a couple of Indian guys.

One of them did have a sort of Curry, "bo" kind of smell goin on.

The other did not.




But let me ask you this Jennifer,

Have you never had a white guy come to you that smelled?

[Jennifer_English]

NO! - never..

THATS my question...i DISLIKE (and will no longer take bookings from) Indian/Asian people....

Does that me Racist... or 'Smellist' :lol:

its NOT their RACE i dislike.. its their smell... ( and attidute toward women that I dislike...)

is that racist???
or smellist??

:lol:

[ARMANIXXX]

NO! - never..

THATS my question...i DISLIKE (and will no longer take bookings from) Indian/Asian people....

Does that me Racist... or 'Smellist' :lol:

its NOT their RACE i dislike.. its their smell... ( and attidute toward women that I dislike...)

is that racist???
or smellist??

:lol:

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Have you never "encountered" an Indian or Asian person that didn't "smell"?

[Jennifer_English]

Armanixx

Thats what im trying to say.. is it wrong to not want to see someone because of their background.... not because of colour... but because of what that theur colour/race does...(which has an (smell/attitude) affect on me??)?

huh?

cos I would HATE to think of myself as Racist.... I just have tastes IMHO... is that so bad ?

[ARMANIXXX]

Armanixx

Thats what im trying to say.. is it wrong to not want to see someone because of their background.... not because of colour... but because of what that theur colour/race does...(which has an (smell/attitude) affect on me??)?

huh?

cos I would HATE to think of myself as Racist.... I just have tastes IMHO... is that so bad ?

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You sound like a nice person Jennifer.

So, might I suggest this,

As I've mentioned, I come across some Indian people that did in fact smell.....I've also been in contact with some who didn't.

I think the fair thing to do would be to see people. Just people.
If you do the LE check thing, you can smell em......take a big whiff LOL.

If they smell, tell them to take a bath at your place (if taking showers at your place is customary for you), or go home and bathe and return when they are perfumed and pretty, or leave and don't return at all.

If you take the stance of, I'm not gonna see ANY Asian or Indian people, then yeah......your crossin into racially biggoted territory.

I don't wanna seem all high and mighty or as if I'm some sort of expert, because I'm not, but I think we all have a sense of right and wrong, and I sense that you are someone who means to do the right thing.

Definately good luck.

If I ever make it to England, I'll take you out for drinks or somethin. ;)

[TomSelis]

I hate to say this, but this is why this thread is BS.

I'm part East Indian and while not offended by JE's comments, bathing won't get rid of that smell. Curry, cumin and cardomom are all very strong smelling spices that come out of your skin.

Ah, fuck it......BS back on.

[johnnyshemalelover]

Armanixx

cos I would HATE to think of myself as Racist.... I just have tastes IMHO... is that so bad ?

You know how they say looks are deceiving? Well, labels are a hundred times more so.

First, please avoid using the term racist in this sense, because racism implies that you have something against a particular race--but in your case, you don't. You prefer to avoid certain races because of bad experiences you've had with them. The appropriate word is prejudice. You assume a high probability that you'll have a bad experience with Indians and Asians. That's prejudiced, but it doesn't mean you're a nasty person at all. And it makes good sense.

Everyone is prejudiced. It's impossible to function without prejudice.

Prejudice means "to pre-judge." It means you make judgments without having 100% of the needed information. For example, in order to judge whether or not someone smells before you get close enough to smell them, you'll need to know what they've been eating for the past several days, whether or not they have good hygiene, whether or not they have any vitamin or mineral deficiencies which cause BO, and whether or not they have any illnesses which cause BO, whether or not their clothes smell, or they use soaps or colognes that you don't like, etc.

Obviously, you're never going to know all that about any client, so you do the best you can with the information you have. Everyone does. If you keep having bad experiences with Indian and Asian people, then it's natural to avoid having them as clients. It doesn't make you a good person or a bad person, it just makes you normal in that respect.

:D [/b]

[johnnyshemalelover]

How to not stink

---A Guide by JSL---

You might think that since you're paying an escort, you don't need to bother with the chores of hygiene and cleanliness beforehand. If so, think again! Many of not most people are disgusted by strong body odors, and just because you can't always smell your own odors doesn't mean you don't have them. A disgusted escort is NOT going to be able to give you her best service no matter how hard she tries.



A general tip for people who like garlic, onion, shallots and spicy (as in spices rather than hot peppers) food:

Please don't be offended, but you stink. I am a lover of foods that make one stink, but I am careful to avoid these foods at least two to three days before any close personal encounters with people who don't eat a lot of those foods, because I don't like being a source of offensive odor. Garlic, onions and heavy spices are powerfully healthy and loaded with all kinds of things that are good for you, but after you eat them, their smell changes and becomes rather foul, and that smell comes out through your lungs and skin. No amount of washing will stop this because it comes out continuously until that food is completely out of your system.


If you want to be odor-free on a specific date, here's my guideline.


Four to five days beforehand, switch to a bland diet free of garlic, onions and related vegetables, shallots, strong cheeses and spices (especially strong spices like cumin). Start eating lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, especially leafy greens. Go easy on the meat and dairy products, but you don't have to cut them out completely. Make sure you get plenty of fiber and go easy on refined carbs like white flour and sugar. Stop eating beans, cabbage and anything else known to cause gas. Start taking zinc and vitamin C supplements if you don't already, and stop taking B vitamins if you do take them. (B vitamins can make you smell bad, too!)

Get some powdered vitamin C (sometimes sold as vitamin C crystals) and after you shower, rub a small amount all over your feet and toes (especially in between the toes.) If it feels like it's burning, it's doing it's job. It won't kill you. Alternatively, substitute vinegar for vitamin C, but use the vinegar every day after you shower except the day of the encounter.

If you notice brown spots on your feet the next day after applying vitamin C powder to them, those brown patches are where you were infected by a fungus that causes foot odor. The brown color means the fungus is dead. The brown spots will go away in a day or two as the skin naturally sheds. This will work with athlete's foot and any other fungus as well. You only need to do the vitamin C treatment once, but thereafter rinse your feet with vinegar after showering to avoid getting re-infected. Fungi cannot live in an acid environment. If you are heavy, or have a deep navel, or basically any place other than your armpits that tends to stay moist most of the time, you can use vinegar in those places if they get smelly, just apply it after washing and drying the area. Body powder added after the vinegar helps keep those places dry. Vitamin C is too strong for most places except the skin on your feet. If you don't use an antiperspirant AND deodorant, start now--it takes a few days of using them to reach full effectiveness. Avoid using a product that is either an antiperspirant or a deodorant, use one what is both. And while I am usually an advocate of hippie products like natural and herbal formulas, stick with a mainstream brand for your antiperspirant/deodorant--those natural ones are worthless. I find Mitchum to be particularly effective.

The day of the encounter, take a shower and wash every square millimeter on your body, rinse, then do it once more. Use a "shampoo brush" on your scalp, if you don't have one of those, use a regular hairbrush or comb. The idea is while you're shampooing, scrub your scalp to clean it well. Hair gets in the way of this, but a toothed or bristled instrument can get through your hair to your scalp.

When you brush and floss your teeth, make sure to also brush your tongue gently but very thoroughly, and brush especially well around the gum line. Give your gums and other areas (such as inside the cheeks and the roof of your mouth) a brushing as well. Rinse with a germ-killing mouthwash that has a nice smell, like mint Listerine.
When you shower on that last day, either use unscented or lightly scented shampoo and soap. What smells good to you might smell bad to someone else. If you use cologne, use it *very* sparingly.

If you plan to bottom or have any rimming or other ass play done to you, learn how to give yourself enemas and do so on the day of the encounter before you shower, of course. (Don't use enemas with any regularity, because they can cause you to become dependent on them; however once a week probably wouldn't hurt.) Just remember to be very careful, there are a few ways you can hurt yourself with enemas if you aren't; and it takes several enemas before the water runs completely clear which is what you want.

Remember, you may not mind the smell of your own poop. Some people even like the smell of their own poop. But almost no one likes the smell of other peoples' poop, so get rid of it if you want anyone going near there!

Lastly, if you smoke and your escort doesn't, try to avoid smoking after you brush your teeth until after your encounter is over. If that's not an option, gargling/rinsing with strong mouthwash can be pretty effective at cutting way down on smoker's breath.

Please feel free to add further tips of your own.

[deadclan69]

Armani, there is no self-hatred going on here. If I am a cunt then I must be closest you've got to pussy in a long time.

I make valid statements about racism and the state of the men in drag on this site and you call me a self hating racist cunt. Jennifer English comes on and says flat out he doesn't like Indians because they smell and have a bad attitude towards woman and Armani is full of gushing remarks and nice comments.

It's obvious the moderators of this site are keen to promote certain views on here and chastise others. How can Jennifer English (a white male) make general racist comments about Indian men and get away with it and I am a racist cunt for saying I find black people to be the most racist I have met?

[Jennifer_English]

Ok firstly I am NOT a white MALE - i am a white Transsexual female.

Now I didnt say I didnt like Indian men because of their smell or attitude...

what I said was I didnt like 'HAVING SEX' with Indian men because of their smell and attitude...

If I met an Indian man anywhere other than the bedroom I would not have a problem, in fact I treat everyone equally.

I am NOT racist... i simply do not like having sex with people who have that particular smell.

ARMANIXX - No I havnt had sex with any other guys that had that particular smell....If any have smelt unpleasent (in a different sort of way) I will politely ask them to take a shower. This isnt possible with Indians as its due to the food they eat.

Johnny - Thank for your input.

Ahhh damn..... next time i'll keep my view to myself. :shrug

[Jericho]

what I said was I didnt like 'HAVING SEX' with Indian men because of their smell and attitude...

Not the same thing, but along the same lines.
I had to leave a hotel because of the smell, one time, and i like a curry.
So i know where you're coming from on this.

[SmashysmashY]

Hi, I'm new to this forum and I hope that nobody will mind if I comment on this issue. First if someone is a young man, with a nice body and good hygiene and you don’t find them attractive enough to fuck them for money then you probably have more discerning tastes than the average prostitute.

I think that it is possible to find an entire race unattractive but it is very difficult because not everyone in a race looks the same. I don’t think that caucasian women are typically very attractive but I’ve dated lots of them; I dated the ones I thought were attractive. It’s difficult because you are attracted to certain masculine or feminine qualities that exist in all races (broad shoulders for example, or intelligence, confidence etc.) and you are typically repelled by other qualities that are not possessed by all members of any race. For example one may not be attracted to blacks because they do not find dark skin attractive, but not all blacks have dark skin, and not all people with dark skin are black.

But on the other hand it is very easy to find an entire race unattractive if you just think there is something wrong with the race. You may feel that they are beneath you for some reason perhaps you believe in some sort of racial hierarchy with lighter people at the top or something like that.
Blacks are typically despised by many people for lots of different reasons that I don’t care to address. So if I ever encounter a person that doesn’t like me because I am black the worst thing I think about them is that they are typical, which in my opinion is one of the most awful things you could be, and I move on. I would suggest that you do the same.

[Perverted Monk]

Native American Indians are kinda cool

[Coroner]

I think she means Indians from India and not Native Americans. I remember visiting a friend and there was a Indian family the next door and they were cooking something that smelled like rat-poison or something, wtf. :lol:

You´re not racist, Jennifer.

[SmashysmashY]

I guess I didn’t make my point very well. I’m sorry. I’ll make one more attempt then I suppose I’ll just drop it.
This time I will use a picture to illustrate my point.
http://www.itsablackthang.com/images/2004-Calendars/Alaye-wall.jpg
This is a picture I found on google images. It is the cover of a black magazine. Now if you don’t find any of these men attractive (and I’m not saying that you have to) then you either find them all unattractive for different reasons because they don’t look alike. And you find many people who are not black unattractive as well because many people who are not black share many of the physical features that these men possess. Or you find them all unattractive because they are black and you think that there is something wrong with blacks. So to say that someone just has a preference against an entire race is specious. It is far more likely that it’s thinly veiled bigotry. I could do this with any race. Anyone who wants to defend the position that you can have a preference against an entire race please repy.

[crayons]

SmashysmashY: thats a hot pic, but unfortunately, those aren't the type of guys that go see t-girls. For a more realistic approach, please check the Allanah Starr competitions. BTW- if a guy has 1 black parent and 1 white parent do they qualify as black? And um, what if one of the parents was mixed? Because, isn't Beyonce's mom mixed?

And ummm Jennifer_English, I actually understand what you mean. Actually I've meet some pretty hot Hindu men (they'd be perfect in Bollywood films) and fucked 1, though most of them I don't find attractive. It's like that rare instance when you meet someone that breaks the mold.

Usually when someone has their mind set up about what they like, it's often difficult to find someone that completely re-designs the circuits and makes you accept them for whom they are. They're personality can be so unique that it redefines your thoughts on a particular race.

For example: when I was in high-school we had pretty innocent race wars. Nothing ugly or violent, just teens going "oh you guys are always like that" type of race-cards thrown around. Hindu's were definately in the minority. We were friends, but when you dated an asian male or female, there was always a joke to be directed at you.
Later in College I meet this guy whose personality was unlike any Indian man I'd known up to that point. I mean, he was basically James Dean from Indian. Totally confident, cused a storm and didn't seem to have that defined family attachment that borders on "oh great, now I gotta meet your nana too?". He was totally different. I remember I was so ready to let him fuck me when I though "OH GOd, I'm really going to get fucked by an asian man." There was that sort of circuit break- like he had opened a flood gate open for Indian men to now apply to be next in line. Unfortunately since then I have meet none other that cool. Maybe one or two, but none to really have me wet myself.

Point: It's all about personality. You're bound to run into girls that won't date you for some particular reason (I have a friend that will absolutely not date white guys that dress and act too thugish). So my advise it to just be yourself, be unique if you are: just don't complain when you aren't picked. The argument whether she is racist or not I cannot say. Maybe if she stated them we'd be better off name calling.

[SmashysmashY]

I am afraid that you've missed my point. The point of the picture is not to suggest that male models go to prostitutes. Clearly they don't need to. I chose that picture because all of the men in it are identifiable as the same race and it shows the amount of variation in features that exist within a race and how those features overlap with other races. If you find all members of any race too unattractive to date (or whatever) because you do not like the physical feature of the entire race then you would find most humans unattractive. This is extremely rare.

What is far more likely is that the person is bigoted and they want to avoid the scorn that they would receive by admitting their bigotry by claiming that it is something that is quite frankly so unlikely that I wouldn't be inclined to believe it if it came from a very sexually modest person, and coming from a prostitute sounds completely absurd.

[crayons]

I am afraid that you've missed my point. The point of the picture is not to suggest that male models go to prostitutes. Clearly they don't need to. I chose that picture because all of the men in it are identifiable as the same race and it shows the amount of variation in features that exist within a race and how those features overlap with other races. If you find all members of any race too unattractive to date (or whatever) because you do not like the physical feature of the entire race then you would find most humans unattractive. This is extremely rare.


Actually I didn't miss that point, but what I was trying to explain is that the guys going to the prostitutes don't look like those male models. Most of the girls who don't date a particular race probably do so because of the frequency of a specific trait (and looks could be one of them). As I pointed out, all races have their variations, but some are more rare than others.

[SmashysmashY]

For the second time I did not say that men who go to prostitutes look like those models. I am saying that that picture accurately displays the amount of variation in the physical features within a race. If they were excluding a race for the reason you give it would not apply to the entire race and it would extend beyond that race into other races. That argument is specious, because there is no physical trait that exists in every member of one race and no members of any other race. Do you understand why it is specious? Even if you excluded the race you would not get away from the trait. And beyond that no prostitutes are that discerning about the men they sleep with. That's why they are prostitutes.

This is a free country and people are free to be bigots. I have no problem with that. What I have problem with is pretending that bigotry is something else so that you can avoid the scorn that people rightfully direct at bigots and using flawed logic to do it.

[crayons]

meh, actually I don't care enough to continue this discussion and find your argument flawed. People will continue to like what they like regardless of how many models you choose to post.

[SmashysmashY]

Deciding early to concede your point is commendable. You could not have argued it anyway. I give you a lot of credit for that.

I know that this is a stupid topic but bigotry is stupid. It can't be defended it can only be masked as something else. If someone truly didn't date blacks because they were trying to avoid a specific physical trait then they wouldn't say 'I don't date blacks' they would say 'I don't date blacks and a lot of latinos, some east indians and southeast asians', so on and so forth. Eventually the set of people that they would sleep with would get so small that they would say 'I only date caucasions and I don't even find most of them attractive' this is far more discerning than any prostitute I've ever met and most women in general.

[SmashysmashY]

To anyone who may read this and think that my logic may be flawed like my friend said. Let me explain to you briefly how logic works. Logic is about language. There are three basic rules that are proven through retortion. That means that you can’t make a positive argument in favor of it but any attempt to argue against it fails.

Those rules are:

The law of identity – if a statement is true then it is true
The law of excluded middle- a statement can be true or false
The law of non contradiction- a statement cannot be true and false

So let’s apply this to our situation.

person1: I don’t like race x because they have trait y
person2: I belong to race x and I don’t have trait y
person3: I don’t belong to race x and I do have trait y

Now can person1’s statement be true? Well, person2 doesn't have trait y and person 1 doesn’t like them so the statement is false for that reason. Person1 does like person3 and they do have trait y so the statement is wrong again. So according to the law of non contradiction this statement cannot be true.

[dc_guy_75]

Big deal, people are attracted to certain types...

All of us have preferences... its not racism but human nature.

I try not to date red-heads, I learned my lesson from past experiences.

[crayons]

I sense a certain balance of dour countenance and frustration in SmashysmashY's posts thats very erotic.

[SmashysmashY]

I did not claim that it was racism. Racism is systematic. If everyone got together and said 'let's not offer any service to race x' that would be racism. This is just bigotry and I said everyone has a right to be a bigot.

Not dating redheads has nothing to do with this. Now if you said 'I don't like redheads therefore I will not date caucasians' Then you would be speaking of something similar.

[SmashysmashY]

I sense a certain balance of dour countenance and frustration in SmashysmashY's posts thats very erotic.

I am a very nice person and have not attempted to denigrate you in any way. I simply pointed out the flaws in your argument. I hope that you will not take this personally and lower the discussion to name calling.

[arcticone]

Those rules are:
The law of identity – if a statement is true then it is true
The law of excluded middle- a statement can be true or false
The law of non contradiction- a statement cannot be true and false


A real antique definition of logic, that doesn t work most times.
Truth often ist just a point of view and preferences are an even more delicate topic.

Logic is a thing that can t work when it comes to human relationships because human beings are highly illogical (because of disturbing stuff like emotions etc).
Being emotional handicaped makes me often wonder about peoples behaviour (I don t really understand love or hate for instance, they trigger highly confusing actions imho).

Sure there are a lot of people that are driven by flawed assumptions about other "races" (don t like that word at all in this special case) thats mostly made up from education and single bad personal experiences (another really interessting mechanism many human beings like to "use")

I don t think this cultural problem can be solved by laws or anything like that. It s a matter of time and by that I mean a lot of time. It s taking generations to get rid of a preconception :(

PS: sorry for my poor English I hope it s not too bad...

[SmashysmashY]

The definition of logic that I have given works in any situation where the use of logic is appropriate. That is to the use of language. Yes, something may be logical and also be wrong. If I said 'all buildings are made of brick, The wtc was a building therefore the wtc was made of brick' that would be a logical argument but it would also be false because the first premise is false. I have not attempted to apply logic to human emotion or behavior, only to the statements that people make. This is where the use of logic is applicable.

[arcticone]

I only wanted to point out, that Aristoteles should only be used in a discussion that has a logical base like math or physics etc.
Not (<-the edit, forgot a keyword :roll: ) if you are involved in an argument about human related stuff.
No offense to the rest of your statement I only stumbled over this well known rules here.

[Quinn]

I sense a certain balance of dour countenance and frustration in SmashysmashY's posts thats very erotic.

I don't know about any of that, but the ID "SmashysmashY" made me laugh really hard. Nicely done, Smashy, and welcome to HA.

-Quinn

[SmashysmashY]

Thank you Quinn. I know that I came here and immediately started arguing with people so it is very kind of you to welcome me.

arcticone I understand what you are saying and I agree. I demonstrated how logic can be misapplied in my last post. But logic can also be used to determine the truth value of statements that are not dealing with abstractions and I was not speaking of the person's feelings or actual motivations but only to their actions and stated motivations if that makes sense to you.

[arcticone]

Ok, I think I got your point (reading is much easier than writing :D )

Let s just say I got some personal problems with the words truth and logic (realy bad experiences ;) ). I acted like one of Pawlows dogs: -> impulse -> action (not 100% thought about what to say and how).

Btw: Imho a good argument is much better then senseless adaption to the major opinion. I think in a forum it s the fun to discuss oppositional meanings :)

[SmashysmashY]

Just a little recommendation to any black person who may read this and who calls escorts.; If an escort asks you what your nationality is or what your race is then yes that is a way of screening out blacks. I suggest you reply like so:

them: what is your ethnicity?
you: why do you not like certain races?

Now the onus is on them to state their bigotry openly.

them: I don’t date blacks.
you: ok, well I don’t like bigots they have an odor and an air about them that I find offensive.(use your own word of course, but this sounds like something a caucasian person might say so they will take it closer to heart)
them: I’m not a..CLICK (the sound of you hanging up)

I know this seems like a small and petty victory but why give a bigot an inch? People influence the behavior of others with praise and criticism. Don’t let them get off without some criticism. Who knows, if enough people do it maybe they will realize one day that blacks are human.

[deadclan69]

First up, why are there so many assholes on here agreeing with Jennifer English, that all Indian people smell and therefore s/he is correct in not having sex with them?

Jennifer English is a racist bigot. Look at her name - English as distinct to British is something racists in in the UK define themselves as being. Also, have a look on Jennifer English's website - the racist flag of St George is everywhere. The British flag is the Union Jack. Racists in the UK regularly carry this flag on marches and wear it on there clothes as a racist symbol.

Jennifer English, do all "english" or white people smell the same? Are you trying to say that your male hormones and caucasian diet (all white people eat the same food) mean that you smell different than the rest of us men? Is your dick cheese english variety or french?

You are a racist man in a dress plain and simple. You do not have the right to be on here pushing your brand of racism.

[Jericho]

I'm probably going to regret getting into this, but....

First up, let me state, the Indian communities in the UK are, for the most part, a shining example of honesty and damned hard work. They're a credit to multi-racial Britain.


First up, why are there so many assholes on here agreeing with Jennifer English, that all Indian people smell and therefore s/he is correct in not having sex with them?

If Indians are eating their tradional diet [and usally, they do], that stuff gives you an odour you can't wash off .

If she doesn't like that smell, are you say she should sleep with them anyway? Wear nose plugs perhaps?
[i]I can't speak for her, but, i doubt she'd sleep with me either, after a month on the curry!


Jennifer English is a racist bigot. Look at her name - English as distinct to British is something racists in in the UK define themselves as being. Also, have a look on Jennifer English's website - the racist flag of St George is everywhere.

I don't know where to start with this one......

Quick geography lesson...Great Britain, where the British come from, is made up of four countries - Scotland, Northen Ireland, Wales, and England.

The only time "we" collectively call ourselves 'British' is when we're celebrating our dismal failures - Failure to secure the Olypics [again!], Eddie the Eagle Edwards, fantastic ski jumper, the Scotish footbal team ;-), the list go's on...

Go to Scotland, you'll see the cross of St Andrew, go to Wales, you'll see the Red Dragon plastered everywhere. Are you saying the English shouldn't display "their" national flag? [i can't believe i'm defending the English] :lol:
BTW, i've seen black and indian faces carrying that 'racist' cross of St George - Mainly because they're proud of being Englsih...Go figure!


The British flag is the Union Jack. Racists in the UK regularly carry this flag on marches and wear it on there clothes as a racist symbol.

In America, the ku klux klan run around in bedsheets - Is everyone with a bedsheet rascist?.....Or just the fukkin idiots?


Jennifer English, do all "english" or white people smell the same?

Unless they've been eating 'indian for a month', give 'em a bar of soap and yes, they do, pretty much [ask the Chinese].


You are a racist man in a dress plain and simple. You do not have the right to be on here pushing your brand of racism.

Is that why she's seen sucking a big black cock in Shemale Desert?
I think we could all do with some of that kind of positive racism!

You have been measured, you have been weighed, and you have been found wanting.
And, as you've proved, we can't have a reasoned and civil debate about this,...You're an idiot.
Get back on the shortbus and fuck off!

[deadclan69]

Jericho, you fuckwit, you must be English if you think the st george's flag is an innocent national flag. The only people I have ever encountered sporting it are the BNP, football hooloigans and racist cockneys.

Scotland, Ireland and Wales have no history of consistently oppressing foreign peoples and colonising their countries so I don't think their flags are as tainted and provoke the same reaction in people as the st george's cross.

A few centuries of the english not indulging in national pride wouldn't do them any harm after all the wars and fuck ups they have caused worldwide.

Judging from your intimate knowledge of how many black cocks Jennifer English has had in his white gob, you must be just another racist cunt-in-denial - on his knees waiting for a drop of spunk off English's cock with all the other wankers on here.

Maybe Colin English or whatever his real name is might read your apology for his racism and invite you round for a curry and a shag?

[Jericho]

The only people I have ever encountered sporting it are the BNP, football hooloigans and racist cockneys.

Really?
Perhaps you should get out more instead of jerking off while you compose the drivel you come out with here.


Scotland, Ireland and Wales have no history of consistently oppressing foreign peoples and colonising their countries so I don't think their flags are as tainted and provoke the same reaction in people as the st george's cross.

Oh, thank you for that, my flag's not as 'tainted' as the St George. Very big of you.


A few centuries of the english not indulging in national pride wouldn't do them any harm after all the wars and fuck ups they have caused worldwide.

AHA, Now we get down to the crux of it.
You don't give a fuck about Jennifer English, that's just an excuse.
You just want to take a pop @ the English!
You have a set of big brass balls...Priceless!


Judging from your intimate knowledge of how many black cocks Jennifer English has had in his white gob, you must be just another racist cunt-in-denial - on his knees waiting for a drop of spunk off English's cock with all the other wankers on here.

Hmmmm, that's a new one.
Admitting to watching an internet released video clip equates to intimate knowledge [and also, my favourite sexual position].
Regular "Rumpole of the Bailey" you are, aint ya!


Maybe Colin English or whatever his real name is might read your apology for his racism and invite you round for a curry and a shag?

Deadhead, Deadhead, Deadhead, come here.
That's it...no, no...a bit closer.
she doesn't like the smell of indian food, that's what started all this. Learn to read, then post!
Ya fukkin idiot!

It's ok deadhead69...I forgive you.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

sorry to bring up an old thread but I witnessed a very racist little bitch last night........................ I won't mention any names as it's someone that frequents this board, but I did want to put it out there, I was truly disgusted considering how she acts on HA then is the complete opposite in person...........

[BrendaQG]

Can you give us a clue? Just a little clue?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Can you give us a clue? Just a little clue?

I could but I won't, as much as I dislike her attitude towards people outside her nationality I won't do anything to prevent her from making $$$

lol but if ya ask me at an event.................................nahhhhhhhhhh h j/k

[tsntx]

well you were being a jerk and you deserved everything i said to you... get the fuck over it or go back where ya came ;)

[DCGuy343]

:popcorn

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

well you were being a jerk and you deserved everything i said to you... get the fuck over it or go back where ya came ;)

since when have you & I ever needed more than eye contact to know what the other was thinking? ;)

[drock]

sorry to bring up an old thread but I witnessed a very racist little bitch last night........................ I won't mention any names as it's someone that frequents this board, but I did want to put it out there, I was truly disgusted considering how she acts on HA then is the complete opposite in person...........



Now this is quite intresting and it would be good to know who this worthless piece of shit is just so I dont waste my time.

[BlackAdder]

as if anyone would give you the time to waste in the first place?

[DJ_Asia]

If only yall knew the half of it... :roll:

[bunzy]

If only yall knew the half of it... :roll:

Elaborate on that DJ, stop being misterious!

[DJ_Asia]

If only yall knew the half of it... :roll:

Elaborate on that DJ, stop being misterious!

Worry not it will all be in my new book...

[Steve-Russell]

God, some people on this forum need to get a life !!!

If an escort chooses not to have sex with a certain person or certain nationality of person that is NOT being racist, that is about having the right of personal choice, just like any other human being on this planet

Take Care

Steve

[SmashysmashY]

wow, you're the first one to bring up those points.

[BrendaQG]

I don't know how this looks from the part of a customer who can't get a date because he is black. There is the other end us black providers who have to beat the hell out of the bushes to find a date as well.

Yesterday I had a trick call me in response to my ad on Craigslist. He asked me if I had more pictures, and I pointed him to a web page I made just for this purpose. He says "Wow your beautiful but I cannot tell what race you are in these. What nationality are you?" I say "mixed". Long pause...... "ok, when can you come over?" I got the date. However the point is if I am "wow" beautiful to him why would my race even matter?

On the other hand.

Then there is another who I only communicated with by email. He was black. He contacted me talking like I was advertising for a social date, or that somehow he was so smooth that he was going to get it for free or less than other people. I told him the bottom line it cost $XXX to see me. He responds. In the first line. "Oh okay mami I didn't really want to make an appointment I just was interested in conversating or getting to know you..." I can see why so many just don't waste their time on fools like him. I mean "mami", could I possibly be any blacker?

I guess in the American mind being this way, and not looking horrible, is strongly associated with being a latina. :shrug:

[PrincessaGianna]

Seems like a fucking cunt to me. Call her again and tell her you're white, when you meet make the bitch tell you to your face she doesn't wanna fuck a black guy.

Um Sexual preferences are just that... If someone is not physically attracted to someone based on their ethnicity that's not racist, that's just sexual *preference*. Maybe the girl had a bad experience with someone who was black? Who knows? It's her body and what she chooses to do with it is up to her, if she chooses not to share her body with someone for ANY reason whatsoever it should be acceptable because it's HER body. That's just absolute bull shit to pull the race card on someone because they don't want to have sex or be intimate with someone because of their own preferences, it's a very personal thing to share your body with someone even if it is escorting... Whatever someone decides about what they do with their body should always be respected, regardless if they choose not to date or be with someone who is black, white, hispanic, asian, or otherwise.

[SmashysmashY]

Yeah, It's such a personal thing that she'll do it with anybody that has 200 dollars and isn't of african descent. Quite a discerning young lady.