What is a bolshevik? Apparently some of you don't know

[LG]

This one's especially for you, guyone. Just in case you don't have a dictionary handy.

Bol·she·vik /ˈboʊlʃəvɪk, ˈbɒl-; Russ. bəlʃɪˈvyik/
1. (in Russia)
a. a member of the more radical majority of the Social Democratic party, 1903–17, advocating immediate and forceful seizure of power by the proletariat.
b. (after 1918) a member of the Russian Communist party.

2. (loosely) a member of any Communist party.

3. Disparaging. an extreme political radical; revolutionary or anarchist.

Okay...seeing as none of us are members of the Russian Communist Party and I would guess that probably none of us are members of any other Communist Party, I think I can assume that you are using "disparaging" words (or "emotionally charged" words, according to Princeton's dictionary) to label all of us a extreme radicals, revolutionaries or anarchists.

A radical can be defined as someone favouring drastic reform, but surely none of us is an "extreme political radical", especially given there are more of us liberals here than rightwingers like you. Are we revolutionaries? Well, I haven't been one since my teens, and even then I don't think that spray-painting graffiti onto walls could have classed me as a bolshevik.

So are we anarchists? Do we seek to overturn the establishment, trash the system, spit in the face of authority, promote disorder and generally cause mayhem? Not really, no. In fact, I even try to avoid getting into fights.

So what makes us bolsheviks? I'm not sure, really. Maybe it's the fact that you're trying to be insulting to us all. Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. Whatever it is, it's making you appear a lot sillier that it's making us appear. I suggest you gently put it down and move on.

That's just a friendly suggestion. You may ignore it and continue to insult us. Further suggestions will not be so friendly.

Thank you and have a nice day

LG

[Quinn]

If you want a really good laugh, try testing the same crowd's grasp – all two of them – of Neoconservativism. A more poorly informed, factually challenged lot would be harder to find anywhere. Swedish Neocons, indeed.

-Quinn

[guyone]

Bolsheviks...both of you.

[Quinn]

Bolsheviks...both of you.

LOL.... So we won't be seeing you at the next "Bring Back Brezhnev
Rally" then?

-Quinn

[tsmandy]

I'm an anarchist

[Quinn]

I'm an anarchist

That's interesting. Every person that I've ever spoken to who considered themselves an anarchist defined their ideology differently. How, for the sake of clarity, do you define anarchism? What does it mean to you, beyond the standard dictionary's explanation? Where do you stand on the whole Social Contract Theory versus State of Nature spectrum?

-Quinn

[tsmandy]

I'm an anarchist

That's interesting. Every person that I've ever spoken to who considered themselves an anarchist defined their ideology differently. How, for the sake of clarity, do you define anarchism? What does it mean to you, beyond the standard dictionary's explanation? Where do you stand on the whole Social Contract Theory versus State of Nature spectrum?

-Quinn

Anarchism is definitely one of the more maligned political philosophy's, not to mention commercially appropriated. For me it is a simple rejection of authoritarianism and unnecessary hierarchy following the old Italian Anarchist Maxim "No Gods No Masters".

Modern Anarchism is definitely more than just a political philosophy as it has grown to include lifestyle (DIY, communal living, dumpster diving, train hopping, direct action, hitch hiking, collective workplaces, etc..) and involves tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in North America and much more in other parts of the world.

Of course that only tells you that I reject hierarchy and authoritarianism but it says little about what I am for, what kind of economic system I would advocate (if any), what alternatives exist to our current concepts of democracy etc.... If I didn't have to hop in the shower and get ready for a date I would elaborate, but I'll save that for later.

Oh Yeah, Happy May Day to all you lefty's and happy Beltane to all you Pagans.

[Jamie Michelle]

This one's especially for you, guyone. Just in case you don't have a dictionary handy.

Bol·she·vik /ˈboʊlʃəvɪk, ˈbɒl-; Russ. bəlʃɪˈvyik/
1. (in Russia)
a. a member of the more radical majority of the Social Democratic party, 1903–17, advocating immediate and forceful seizure of power by the proletariat.
b. (after 1918) a member of the Russian Communist party.

2. (loosely) a member of any Communist party.

3. Disparaging. an extreme political radical; revolutionary or anarchist.

Okay...seeing as none of us are members of the Russian Communist Party and I would guess that probably none of us are members of any other Communist Party, I think I can assume that you are using "disparaging" words (or "emotionally charged" words, according to Princeton's dictionary) to label all of us a extreme radicals, revolutionaries or anarchists.

A radical can be defined as someone favouring drastic reform, but surely none of us is an "extreme political radical", especially given there are more of us liberals here than rightwingers like you. Are we revolutionaries? Well, I haven't been one since my teens, and even then I don't think that spray-painting graffiti onto walls could have classed me as a bolshevik.

So are we anarchists? Do we seek to overturn the establishment, trash the system, spit in the face of authority, promote disorder and generally cause mayhem? Not really, no. In fact, I even try to avoid getting into fights.

So what makes us bolsheviks? I'm not sure, really. Maybe it's the fact that you're trying to be insulting to us all. Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. Whatever it is, it's making you appear a lot sillier that it's making us appear. I suggest you gently put it down and move on.

That's just a friendly suggestion. You may ignore it and continue to insult us. Further suggestions will not be so friendly.

Thank you and have a nice day

LG

One sense of Bolshevik, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, is an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement. In other words, neo-conservatives (such as populate the current presidential administration) are Bolsheviks.

For more on the Marxian Trotskyist background of the neo-conservatives, see the below scholarly speech by Dr. Ron Paul, Republican Congressman from Texas. It gives many references and direct quotes from neo-conservative works, and so it's a valuable resource for further research.

"Neo-Conned!," Hon. Ron Paul of Texas (Republican), In the House of Representatives, July 10, 2003 http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul110.html

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."--David Rockefeller, Memoirs (Random House, 2002), pg. 405

"One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony. ... There is a very real and pervasive dedication to Chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community purpose. General social and economic progress is no less impressive. ... The enormous social advances of China have benefitted greatly from the singleness of ideology and purpose. ... The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history"--David Rockefeller, in his article "From a China Traveler," New York Times, August 10, 1973, pg. 31

For more on the New World Order, in the words of the globalists themselves, see the below page:

"Quotes on the New World Order," State-Terror Archive: http://stateterror.web1000.com/nwo-quotes.html

It's also important to note that among many other Marxist planks that have fully or partially been implemented in the U.S., plank No. 5 of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels's Communist Manifesto is "Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly." (See Manifesto of the Communist Party by Marx and Engels, English edition of 1888 http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/61 .)

For the history on how the "capitalist" (i.e., mercantilist) elite in the West bankrolled Communism (as well as National Socialism), see the below scholarly books by Antony C. Sutton, Ph.D.:

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Antony C. Sutton, Ph.D. (New Rochelle, N.Y.: Arlington House Publishers, 1974) http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/index.html

(Note: Chapter I of the above book refers to a 1911 St. Louis Post-Dispatch cartoon illustration by Robert Minor. This can be viewed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Robert-Minor-Dee-Lighted-1911.png .)

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Antony C. Sutton, Ph.D. (Suffolk, England: Bloomfield Books, 1976) http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/sutton_wall_street/index.html

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy, Antony C. Sutton, Ph.D. (Billings, M.T.: Liberty House Press, 1986) http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/best_enemy/index.html
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/sutton_best_enemy/index.html

Bush, Jr., like all modern U.S. presidents, is simply a puppet of his ruling elite backers. As President Franklin D. Roosevelt noted:

""
The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson--and I am not wholly excepting the Administration of W.W. The country is going through a repetition of Jackson's fight with the Bank of the United States--only on a far bigger and broader basis.
""

(From President Franklin Delano Roosevelt in a letter to Col. Edward Mandell House, November 21, 1933; contained in F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, 1928-1945, edited by Elliott Roosevelt [New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce, 1950], pg. 373.)

Roosevelt in the above letter mentioned President Woodrow Wilson ("W.W."). Below is what Woodrow Wilson himself wrote concerning this same matter:

""
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

...

[A]nd we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world--no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.
""

(From Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People [New York and Garden City: Doubleday, Page & Company, 1913] http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14811/14811-8.txt .)

[TJT]

Back in the 70's I saw two guys who were members of two different obscure Communist organizations get in a fistfight over whose party were the "true Bolsheviks".

One side had leader,and I kid you not,who was known as Chairman Bob.

[Quinn]

Back in the 70's I saw two guys who were members of two different obscure Communist organizations get in a fistfight over whose party were the "true Bolsheviks".

One side had leader,and I kid you not,who was known as Chairman Bob.

Charman Bob? How funny is that. Best laugh I've had today.

-Quinn

[TJT]

Yup,Chairman Bob Avakian,leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party. He self-exiled himself to Paris about '79,but you could forward those dues checks and contributions for the Revolution in America to his French HQ.

I often wonder what became of Chairman Bob?

[guyone]

HERE IT IS RIGHT OUT OF WEBSTER'S:

[tsmandy]

Yup,Chairman Bob Avakian,leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party. He self-exiled himself to Paris about '79,but you could forward those dues checks and contributions for the Revolution in America to his French HQ.

I often wonder what became of Chairman Bob?

I think he was still kicking out obscure commie propaganda not too long ago.

[TJT]

Glad to hear the man who once wrote "We stand in solidarity with Peoples Party of Trinidad and Tobago against the bloodsucking lapdogs of Capitalism." is still on the loose.

My friends and I used to play "Where's Chairman Bob?" with his RCP followers. They didn't enjoy as much as we did.

Hmmmm...... I wonder if that guy who came up with "Where's Waldo" ripped us off? Where's my lawyer?

[LG]

Neo, you forget that I'm not a member of the Democratic Party (nor indeed an American).


HERE IT IS RIGHT OUT OF WEBSTER'S:

[guyone]

Then I guess you're not a bolshevik.

[trish]

i'm a member of the democratic party but not a member of the extremist wing of it. in fact, i don't even know how one gets initiated into that wing...don't know anyone who has been. guess i'm not a bolshevik either. anyone here a bolshevik?

[Quinn]

I'm not a Democrat (or a Republican), so I guess that counts me out. Damn, and I so wanted to be one too. Red really is a great color, and the opportunity to eventually be called Chairman Quinn sounds like great fun. And that doesn’t even take into account the opportunity to implement all those nifty purges.

As an aside, I thought the whole Webster's post was funny as hell. Nicely done, guyone.

-Quinn

[LG]

Then I guess you're not a bolshevik.

And guyone has seen the light!

So why'd you keep calling me a bolshevik then?



:D

[ezed]

bolshevik???? Another label. Might as well call us a democrat, republican, communist, islamic fundamentalist, shemale, gay. you miss the point. If you don't agree, don't throw out a polite obscure label.

Simply say you're a fucking ashole!!! Then everyone knows what you are trying to say. bolsheviks is retarded, now a days it's like calling someone a jar of pickles!

[TJT]

"Kosher Dills of the world,unite!"

[guyone]

Thank you all! I love all of you.

[TJT]

I miss the Commies.

[guyone]

I got to admit LG that the Maoist in your new avatar is giving me commie fever!

[LG]

I got to admit LG that the Maoist in your new avatar is giving me commie fever!

Glad you like her. Actually, I'm not sure if she is a Maoist.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/asian_babe_953.gif

[guyone]

Alright. Temptress.

[Coroner]

I was born in the Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, one of the six countries that made up the Socialist Federate Republic of Yugoslavia. Long live Tito. I miss the old Yugoslavia. I´m a communist and somehow anarchist because I think that states are unnecessery, they are only good for the rulers and patriotism is only a brainwash to mobilize the crowd to die for the rulers´ financial interests, just like in Iraq now. You must be stupid to lose one leg or both for some shit called homeland. You´re on your own, wherever you live. The only natural identity is being a human, everything else is human´s invention and superstition. It´s the media serving the conservatives and other capitalists that makes you thinking that Stalin was a communist and that anarchism means they want to turn everyone into a punk. Anarchism is not street-fighting and havoc. It´s a political ideology and philosophy that worked in Barcelona during the Spanish Civil War until Franco conquered the city. It was exactly the anarcho-syndicalism in Catalonia. Fascists are those that are doing the dirt work for the conservatives. Nothing changes, the kings and queens are presidents and prime-ministers today. The ministers and corporations-bosses are the new lords.

[guyone]

Okay. Thanks for your input.

[Coroner]

You´re welcome, slave.

[guyone]

When you finally wake up and smell the capitalism you'll have a far more positive outlook.

[LG]

When you finally wake up and smell the capitalism you'll have a far more positive outlook.

Is that what that smell is? And I thought the septic tank was full again.

:D

[phixer girl]

Well I for one am sad at the demise of the USSR.

I loved the cold war and was actualy part of it.

Hence the name Phixer. That was from the Phantom jets that I used to fix.

Dead and burried now I'm afraid. I used to find the whole East West thing rather romantic actually. I would'nt suck Brezhnevs cock mind but it did have that sex appeal. Oh dear. Perhaps I've been watching too many Bond movies.

Now I'd suck any of the Bond Characters cock. Starting with Sean.

Mmmmm. Yummy.

xx

[dav1313]

If you can "post" your philosophy then it's really not all that. Are you a metaphysic or empircist???

[dav1313]

sry if it was unclear who i was asking. It's an open question.

[svenson]

Well I for one am sad at the demise of the USSR.

I loved the cold war and was actualy part of it.

i miss the cold war it was a simplur world. how were you part of war

[chefmike]

8)

[phixer girl]

Well I for one am sad at the demise of the USSR.

I loved the cold war and was actualy part of it.

i miss the cold war it was a simplur world. how were you part of warYou do realize, that if I told you. I'd have to kill you. LOL

My trade was Missile Control Sytems. Huh ?

Long gone and burried now.

Only missile I want now is the male one. Yummy !

[svenson]

Well I for one am sad at the demise of the USSR.

I loved the cold war and was actualy part of it.

i miss the cold war it was a simplur world. how were you part of warYou do realize, that if I told you. I'd have to kill you. LOL

My trade was Missile Control Sytems. Huh ?

Long gone and burried now.

Only missile I want now is the male one. Yummy !

good answers to make me smile welcome to the HA.