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White_Male_Canada
04-18-2007, 07:27 PM
And so the blame game begins. Keith Olbermann tried to blame President Bush and the Republican Congress for yesterday’s massacre because they “allowed” a ban on 9mm clips like the one used to murder 32 people to expire.

Transcript:
At least one of the weapons used by the shooter is believed, as we said, to be in nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol, which would be like this one, with a clip designed to hold more than 10 shots. Clips like those were banned under the Assault Weapons Law of 1994, but Congress and President Bush allowed that law to expire more than two years ago.


http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/17/video-olbermann-blames-bush-for-virginia-tech-massacre

PS: The olby salute :

tsafficianado
04-18-2007, 10:30 PM
typically distorted liberal slant....
the importation of new manufacture high cap mags was banned, there was never any occasion when one could not get all the high cap mags one wanted for any handgun, though at higher prices. libs, they ALWAYS have an opinion but they RARELY know the facts.

guyone
04-19-2007, 03:31 PM
Could this be the voice of TFan? Reborn like the Phoenix to defeat the wily bolshevik? If so welcome back my brother.

Mugai_hentaisha
04-21-2007, 03:03 PM
let me start off by saying I am no bush fan...nor am I a conservative or a Liberal......I am I......there

We american's have a recent history of blaming instead of fixing...well most of the time anyway.........there are times we try to fix problems with the country all of them kneejerk reactions if you ask me...that silly ass ban during the 1990's.. I would have loved to see their reaction if the events that led to that law transpired with lever action weapons.

the Patriot Act <---------here is a silly ass kneejerk law. Terrorist attack us, then we in a roundabout way declare war (That wasn't even right the President does not have the power to declare war that is the power of the Congress.... they gave him the power shame on them....talk about tap dancing on the consitution...) if it had been done right there would have been no need for a law like the Patriot act. In fact the powers that would go into effect if it were a properly declared war would make the patriot act would seem like a walk in the park.

Terry Schivo (sp) <---------Our founding fathers would have kicked the asses of Bush, senate, congress, and the supreme court over that one....Congress shall pass no law affecting only 1 individual

There are many more instances of knee jerk reactions... there will be ones out of this one but it is up to Americans who believe in Freedom to say, "whoa wait a minute and think this shit through"......will we...no we will be too busy talking on Cell phones and such....as it always is

remember this my friends

The complacent and self-interested citizen is the greatest enemy of a free government.-Niccolò Machiavelli”

To all the people out there who think the banning of a "Clip" "Gun" or other weapons........remember according to Sun tzu you are already carrying the most lethal weapon in the known universe with you where ever you go....your freaking brain.... if your going to kill something then you are going to find a way to do it plain and simple

which would you have banned in this scenerio
An incident goes down like the many horrible ones before but instead guns...all they used were clubs and pushed their victims out of Windows?

would it be the club......
and/or the windows?

Mugai_hentaisha
04-21-2007, 03:06 PM
let me start off by saying I am no bush fan...nor am I a conservative or a Liberal......I am I......there

We american's have a recent history of blaming instead of fixing...well most of the time anyway.........there are times we try to fix problems with the country all of them kneejerk reactions if you ask me...that silly ass ban during the 1990's.. I would have loved to see their reaction if the events that led to that law transpired with lever action weapons.

the Patriot Act <---------here is a silly ass kneejerk law. Terrorist attack us, then we in a roundabout way declare war (That wasn't even right the President does not have the power to declare war that is the power of the Congress.... they gave him the power shame on them....talk about tap dancing on the consitution...) if it had been done right there would have been no need for a law like the Patriot act. In fact the powers that would go into effect if it were a properly declared war would make the patriot act would seem like a walk in the park.

Terry Schivo (sp) <---------Our founding fathers would have kicked the asses of Bush, senate, congress, and the supreme court over that one....Congress shall pass no law affecting only 1 individual

There are many more instances of knee jerk reactions... there will be ones out of this one but it is up to Americans who believe in Freedom to say, "whoa wait a minute and think this shit through"......will we...no we will be too busy talking on Cell phones and such....as it always is

remember this my friends

The complacent and self-interested citizen is the greatest enemy of a free government.-Niccolò Machiavelli”

To all the people out there who think the banning of a "Clip" "Gun" or other weapons........remember according to Sun tzu you are already carrying the most lethal weapon in the known universe with you where ever you go....your freaking brain.... if your going to kill something then you are going to find a way to do it plain and simple

which would you have banned in this scenerio
An incident goes down like the many horrible ones before but instead guns...all they used were clubs and pushed their victims out of Windows?

would it be the club......
and/or the windows?

chefmike
04-23-2007, 02:24 AM
We Are Getting Tired of Prying Your Guns out of Your Cold Dead Hand...
Elayne Boosler

If 33 people were killed by apples instead of guns at Virginia Tech, there wouldn't be an apple left on the shelves or in the homes of this country until apples could be made safe. Screw your "constitutional right" to have an apple, there is something called the "greater good", and the good of the country takes precedence over your "interpretation" of any amendment in the now defunct anyway constitution. Just ask the spinach growers, and the people who love to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. And why do you always forget the words, "well regulated militia"?

2500 Children Left Behind

If 2500 children under the age of 17 were felled by apples instead of guns every year in America, there wouldn't be a congressman or senator left serving who took one penny from the National Apple Association. The shame and admonishment would be too great. And if there were even incremental steps to take to make apples safer, and even they were fought tooth and nail by your blood money National Apple Association, claiming the straw man of the "slippery slope" to "regulation", America might better see you for the mercenary and shameful organization you truly are.

We are getting tired of prying your guns out of your cold dead hands.

Here's a news flash for you gun waving "real Americans": It's not about guns. It's about money. Follow the money. The NRA raises hundreds of millions of dollars by convincing you they are fighting for your "rights". Wake up. It's a business. Just like any other business, except with the help of their bought off representatives, they are the only UNREGULATED consumer product in America. What do they sell? FEAR. Fear, fake patriotism, and fake bravado, just like their commander in chief, President Custer. You're being played.

With their hundreds of millions of dollars raised on the blood of murdered Americans, they pay themselves, they keep their product manufacturers flush, and they buy their government officials. They exist to convince you you need their product. And when sales slow, they target new markets. They market fear to women, then sell them "feminine little purse guns". They market to children. The cartoon character Joe Camel is banned, but sure shootin' Eddie Eagle is alive and well to shit again on Friday. (He teaches children "gun safety", meaning, he teaches children to use guns.)

We're Number One!!

The number of children under the age of 17 shot by guns in America every year is greater than the gun-related deaths of children in all the industrialized nations of the world COMBINED.

Here is the population of Japan: 127,463,611.

Here is the number of children killed by guns in Japan every year: 0.

A 2001 Centers for Disease Control (CDC) study found that in homicides among intimate partners, women are murdered more with guns than with all other means COMBINED.

In 2004, guns were most commonly used by males to murder their female partners.

A 2003 study found women living with a gun in the home were almost three times more likely to be murdered than women with no gun in the home.

"If we ban handguns only criminals will have guns." Well then let's not have any laws in America at all. No drug laws, no traffic laws, no laws at all, right? Duh.

"Cars kill people!!" Yes, cars kill people when something goes wrong. Guns are MADE to kill people. Handguns have one purpose, to kill people.

Stage Rule: If There is a Gun on the Wall in Act I, It Will Go Off in Act II.

Bush's Unmitigated Gall

I watched President Custer speak at the Virginia Tech memorial yesterday. How dare he "express condolences". How DARE he. Here is how his administration helped kill 33 people at Virginia Tech:

Passage of gun industry immunity bill. That's right, you can sue every industry in America, except gun manufacturers and dealers. Your family gets murdered by a madman? Tough.

Refusal to aid in renewal of federal assault weapons ban, even though the law had already been eviscerated by the gun industry. Get it? INDUSTRY.

Fighting background checks. The Virginia shooter had been committed to a mental institution. In Virginia that means you can't buy a gun. Oh yeah? Thank goodness the gun shop owner who sold it to him can't be sued.

The president does not support the police when citizens can have assault weapons.

The president does not support the police when citizens can have armor piercing bullets.

The president helps the terrorists when anyone can have a shoulder rocket launcher that can take a plane out of the sky. And I'm taking my shoes off at the airport?

The president helps the terrorists when he supports a ban on release of federal crime tracing data necessary to identify patterns in illegal gun trafficking.

The president helps the terrorists when he requires the ATF to immediately destroy gun sales records previously allowed to be kept for 90 days under Brady Bill background check.

We Found the WMD. They Are Here.


Guns are for cowards. You can kill from a distance. You are detached, removed. You don't get your hands dirty. You don't feel the life draining out of another human being in an eye to eye struggle, face to face, with your hands squeezing or beating soft, human, flesh, one on one. We had just as many disturbed, sick citizens in America in the last century as we do in this. The difference now is access to weapons of mass destruction. Anyone can have a gun. Anyone. It did not used to be like this. It's easy to kill now.

The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight

"Two Secret Service officers were injured yesterday after a gun held by another Secret Service officer accidentally fired inside the White House gate. The officers received wounds to face and leg."

"Vice President Cheney shoots hunting companion in the face."

So really, what chance do thousands of children a year have?

3,300 Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last four years. 120,000 Americans have been shot to death in America in the last four years. Where is the outrage? If we can elect a new congress based on its commitment to end the war overseas, we can elect a congress committed to end the war here at home. End both wars.

Here's the Punchline

Today the supreme court overturned thirty years of supreme court precedent, and overturned the findings of six federal courts, to declare war on women, their health, their privacy, and their lives, by upholding a ban on dilation and curettage abortion that contains NO exception to preserve the health or SAVE THE LIFE of the woman. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, writing for the four dissenting justices, called the decision "alarming".

Wait for it...

President Custer - "Today's decision affirms that the Constitution does not stand in the way of the people's representatives enacting laws reflecting the compassion and humanity of America. This affirms the progress my administration has made to defend the "sanctity of life".


Some sources:

www.cdc.gov
www.psrla.org/program_gun_violence.htm
www.vpc.org

White_Male_Canada
04-23-2007, 02:53 AM
Guns are for cowards. You can kill from a distance. You are detached, removed. You don't get your hands dirty. You don't feel the life draining out of another human being in an eye to eye struggle, face to face, with your hands squeezing or beating soft, human, flesh, one on one. We had just as many disturbed, sick citizens in America in the last century as we do in this. The difference now is access to weapons of mass destruction. Anyone can have a gun. Anyone. It did not used to be like this. It's easy to kill now.

Elayne Boosler

Elayne the comedian !? Ha!

Yeah it`s sooo easy to kill now. Those last words of hers really exposes the mind of a leftist. Elayne don`t know shit, in fact she`s a psycho detached from reality.
If she had the slighest inlking then she`d know that apart from gangbangers,psychokillers etc, soldiers have to be trained to kill. It is not a natural instinct. We`ve learned this through experience in wars. WWI & II found infantry men unwilling to shoot because they did not receive the proper training,ie; marksmanship training using ringed shooting targets,bags of sand etc. Now replaced with what? Silhouette targets and hands on training.

Back to your corner, dimwit old fart. 8)

chefmike
04-23-2007, 03:08 AM
Do I smell a troll fart?

guyone
04-23-2007, 07:32 AM
He who smelt it delt it.

InHouston
04-27-2007, 12:30 AM
We Are Getting Tired of Prying Your Guns out of Your Cold Dead Hand...
Elayne Boosler

[size=14]If 33 people were killed by apples instead of guns at Virginia Tech, there wouldn't be an apple left on the shelves or in the homes of this country until apples could be made safe. Screw your "constitutional right" to have an apple, there is something called the "greater good", and the good of the country takes precedence over your "interpretation" of any amendment in the now defunct anyway constitution. Just ask the spinach growers, and the people who love to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. And why do you always forget the words, "well regulated militia"?


Hey Mike, you figure out a way to get the guns from all the gun toting criminals in the country. Then you figure out a way to keep rapists, thieves, burglars, robbers, car jackers, and the likes from getting knives, clubs, chains, bats, crowbars, ropes, icepicks, hammers, hatchets, or any other kind of implement that could do harm to a defenseless person. You do all that, and I'd be all for a gun ban across the board in this country. Until then, people are not 100% safe, and unlike you, would like to be able to walk through life with the ability to defend themselves against the worst kind of predator there is; the natural born killer.

At 1:00 in the morning a while back ago, three shaved-head Latin gang members tried to force me over in my vehicle in an attempt to car jack me. As my power window came down, then appeared my Glock Model 19 (just like the VT's shooters gun) pointing straight at them. I yelled out "You want it?" They hauled ass.

For people like you Mike, if you had your way, I'd have probably been shot dead, thrown in a ditch, and all for what? My truck.

Fuck you Mike, you're a dumbass!

chefmike
04-27-2007, 01:27 AM
Fuck off, Annie Oakley...I have never advocated banning guns...I have friends and family with very close ties to Tech...and your BS wild-west fantasies don't play too well around there nowadays, Howdy Doody...and how many more times are you gonna tell us that silly fable about how 'Mr. Steers and Queers from Texas' defeated those dangerous seventh-grade gang-bangers...sure you did...fuck off, Annie Oakley...you don't know shit from shinola, jackass...

InHouston
04-27-2007, 01:47 AM
Fuck off, Annie Oakley...I have never advocated banning guns...I have friends and family with very close ties to Tech...and your BS wild-west fantasies don't play too well around there nowadays, Howdy Doody...and how many more times are you gonna tell us that silly fable about how 'Mr. Steers and Queers from Texas' defeated those dangerous seventh-grade gang-bangers...sure you did...fuck off, Annie Oakley...you don't know shit from shinola, jackass...

I wouldn't have to keep repeating that story if it weren't for wussy pepper-spray toting fags like you. And as far as your friends and family ties to VT ... LIKE I GIVE A FLYING FUCK.

Fucking jerk

White_Male_Canada
04-27-2007, 01:59 AM
Fuck off, Annie Oakley...I have never advocated banning guns...I have friends and family with very close ties to Tech...and your BS wild-west fantasies don't play too well around there nowadays, Howdy Doody...and how many more times are you gonna tell us that silly fable about how 'Mr. Steers and Queers from Texas' defeated those dangerous seventh-grade gang-bangers...sure you did...fuck off, Annie Oakley...you don't know shit from shinola, jackass...

I wouldn't have to keep repeating that story if it weren't for wussy pepper-spray toting fags like you. And as far as your friends and family ties to VT ... LIKE I GIVE A FLYING FUCK.

Fucking jerk

Whad`ya expect from a gumpy old man pushing 60, alone in a basement apartment eating cream of wheat to keep from breaking his dentures ;-)

TJT
04-27-2007, 04:27 AM
Why not? It's been too many years to blame Clinton and Nixon is dead.

guyone
04-27-2007, 09:50 AM
I can't believe InHouston called ChefMike a fag.


FUCK!