AlGore`s Mansions=Carbon Offsets= Money

[White_Male_Canada]

Should algore be ashamed of himself for propagating such a Big Lie or should those who believed him be even more ashamed of themselves? 8)

From the Tennessean:
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al gore`s home's average monthly electric bill last year was just under $1,200, according to bills that The Tennessean acquired from Nashville Electric Service. The Tennessean could not determine when Gore signed up for green power."Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gores' 10,000-square-foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard has a large one. " They, of course, also do the carbon emissions offset," she said.

That means figuring out how much carbon is emitted from home power use, and vehicle and plane travel, then paying for projects that will offset that with use of renewable energy, such as solar power.

Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe, she said.
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Now did you get that ? Algore buys his pollution whereas us poor could never do that. Add to that he buys his 'carbon offsets', FROM HIMSELF !


This from Ecotality:
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As co-founder and chairman of the firm Gore presumably draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he “buys” his “carbon offsets” from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself. To be blunt, Gore doesn’t buy “carbon offsets” through Generation Investment Management - he buys stocks.

Gore’s people touted his purchase of “carbon offsets” as evidence that he lives a “carbon-neutral” lifestyle, but the truth is Gore’s home uses electricity that is, for the most part, derived from the burning of carbon fuels. His house gets its electricity from Nashville Electric Service, which gets its from the Tennessee Valley Authority, which produces most of its power from coal-burning power plants. Which means most of the power being consumed at the Gore mansion comes from carbon-emitting power sources.

Wikipedia:
The intended goal of carbon offsets is to combat global warming. The appeal of becoming “carbon neutral” has contributed to the growth of voluntary offsets, which often are a more cost-effective alternative to reducing one’s own fossil-fuel consumption. However, the actual amount of carbon reduction (if any) from an offset project is difficult to measure, largely unregulated, and vulnerable to misrepresentation.

Did you get that? Carbon offsets are an “alternative to reducing one’s own fossil-fuel consumption” and yet “the actual amount of carbon reduction (if any) from an offset project is difficult to measure, largely unregulated, and vulnerable to misrepresentation.”
One way to misrepresent things: Tell a newspaper your stock purchases are really purchases of “carbon offsets.”

Gore travels the nation and the world blaming man’s use of carbon-based energy for global warming - burning thousands of gallons of jet fuel as he goes. His efforts are being rewarded. Politically, he’s helped put climate change at the top of the national and even global agenda. And that has driven up the perceived prospects and in many cases the stock value of
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This huckster algore is globe-trotting on jets and in limos beating his chest about man-made global warming. Yet as chairman and founding partner of Generation Investment Management LLP, he invests other people`s money for a fee. Algore is drumming up business by preaching the sky is falling, FOR HIMSELF ! 8)

Buys Carbon Offsets from himself?

Good GOD! Carbon offsets are already a farce because they do nothing in the name of "conservation", but now he's buying them from himself?

Where do I sign up for that? LMAO

[White_Male_Canada]

Buys Carbon Offsets from himself?

Good GOD! Carbon offsets are already a farce because they do nothing in the name of "conservation", but now he's buying them from himself?

Where do I sign up for that? LMAO


AlGore is a total fraud. It`s beyond debate now and accepted as conventional wisdom.

AlGore reminds one of the Catholic Church before the Reformation when the elite could literally buy their indulgences. Or Sumptuary Laws (sumtuariae leges) during Medieval times:

Sumptuary Laws were:

"laws that regulated and reinforced social hierarchies and morals through restrictions on clothing, food, and luxury expenditures. They were an easy way to identify social rank and privilege, and were usually used for social discrimination. This frequently meant preventing commoners from imitating the appearance of aristocrats, and sometimes also to stigmatize disfavored groups. In the Late Middle Ages sumptuary laws were instated as a way for the nobility to cap the conspicuous consumption of the up-and-coming bourgeoisie of medieval cities."

AlGore can continue his rich elitist life style by purchasing "carbon-offsets"/indulgences from his own company while the hoi polloi are forced in restrictive lifestyles because they "pollute too much."
AlGore can continue his wretched excesses by buying them and at the same time keeps the masses tied down with needless laws that will keep them in their place.

Again with the Al Gore thing, you really are jealous of him aren't you? Is it his wealth, his big house, or the fact he's contributed more to the climate change debate than you have in the whole of your pitiful life! What were you saying about the left being driven by the politics of hate and envy, something like the following wasn't it?:

What's unclear is why you fail to understand the meaningless of your own words. "contribute to climate change debate"? Do you realize that that's not a real-world, tangible contribution? Bullshit walks, let's see the man do something about his religion, climate change. Like let's see him, uhhhh, pare down the electric bill? Not fly around in private jets?

Let this marinade for a while. Carbon off-sets don't mean shit! They don't produce shit, they don't REDUCE shit. In fact, you ought to be buying "BULLSHIT OFFSETS" for all excess bullshit you are producing. You're bullshit footprint is excessive.

REPENT SINNER!


Let's see you do something about it. I know you won't, because you're all bullshit! All you climate perverts should stick to your guns, donate your car to the salivation army and buy a fucking bus pass and a bike. Toss out the air conditioning, and cook over a wood (scratch that), don't cook your food at all. COOKING CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING!

TFan, anybody with half a brain knows that Al Gore has contributed significantly to the climate change debate. I've said nothing about the accuracy of his scientific claims. Why don't you do us all a favour and read what people actually say, instead of imagining and inventing things like your friend WMC does.


I guess you have to have "half a brain" to get any tangible understanding of what your post says. I guess us full-brainers are FUCKED!


And for what its worth, anyone who knows me knows that my "climate change footprint" is small. If it wasn't, I would be the first NOT to criticise others about it because I am not a hypocrite! And if anyone on this forum is criticising people about their environmental footprints it is you and your "buddy in hypocrisy" WMC.

Living a one room shack, burning wood for heat. You do understand all that wood-burning produces soot (carbon), right?

Like I said. No positions, just derision. From all accounts, it is clear that your posts consist of nothing but cheerleading and taunting.

In other words, "Talking loud, ain't sayin nothing".

Furthermore, I want to add-

Like I said. No positions, just derision. From all accounts, it is clear that your posts consist of nothing but cheerleading and taunting.

In other words, "Talking loud, ain't sayin nothing".

Like I said. No positions, just derision. From all accounts, it is clear that your posts consist of nothing but cheerleading and taunting.

In other words, "Talking loud, ain't sayin nothing".

Furthermore, I want to add-

Like I said. No positions, just derision. From all accounts, it is clear that your posts consist of nothing but cheerleading and taunting.

In other words, "Talking loud, ain't sayin nothing".

Well if you won't take advice from me, here's some from your "buddy in hypocrisy" WMC:

"Common sense sport. This ain`t rocket science. You leftists take these puny little web forums much too seriously and personally. It`s a debate forum, don`t like it, get the fuck out." WMC to ILCB


Educating the cause-worshippers is tough work, but it's honorable work and that's why I do it.

Let me tell you again, cause-worshipper;

Your post had nothing to do with anything that you previously spewed. You're gonna lose this one. Withdraw now. You're being dominated.

PWNT

LOL, the insecure mind. Had to clarify a shower to cover all her bases. LMAO!!!

LOL, the insecure mind. Had to clarify a shower to cover all her bases. LMAO!!!

Wrong again TFan, I said a shower because that's what I had. Unlike yourself, I always try to tell the truth.

I don't even have to explain this one.

Your confused nature, exposed yet again!

Don't be too committal.

How does one "try to tell the truth"? LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!

[XPBMX]

wow the debate ended with the first ad hominem.



Al Gore is a fraud. He uses one-hundred times the normal energy usage of an 'average' household by kilowatt. He arrived at the shindig in a fucking stretch limo. He got an oscar for BEST SONG? WTF ? The conensus community bereft of empirical data have even discredited his inconvienient movie. Now I am not a hater of Al Gore but the man does not live as he preaches. and by proxy he is a hypocrite.Here is the funniest thing ever, he OWNS tobbacco fields and makes MONEY off of it. Tobbacco fields HARM the environment MORE than an iceberg could dream of, AND he uses CHEMICLES in his fileds to ENSURE a BIGGER yield, these chems produce massive pollution. Joeseph Lieberman, NOW that guy is a real man. If ol Joe says it he means it unlike his former running mate Alsef. Another funny fact for you guys? Ol Al there wanted to send delta force in back in the mid 90's to assassinate Saddam....my how things change when politics charges the battery of desire.

[White_Male_Canada]

wow the debate ended with the first ad hominem.

Correct me if I'm wrong XPBMX, but this whole thread is ad hominem, yes? Once you've been here a while XPBMX, you'll also find out that White_Male_Canada is a right-wing troll. If you don't believe me, then let him tell you himself in this own words: "Then I found this Forum and decided to piss off all the lemmings. One of many left-wing boards I like to enter." White_Male_Canada
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=15335&start=0
Of course you won't care about that if your right-wing yourself, will you now? White_Male_Canada has been trolling on this board long before I got here, so if you find me abusive of him also don't expect me to apologise.

Now why would I post on Conservative forums and hear nothing buy an echo? Wouldn`t that be boring?

The fact that I have you so agitated and beside yourself bespeaks that I`ve been successful in deconstructing the Big Lie of algore.

[guyone]

ILCB

Do you ever watch the League of Gentlemen?

[guyone]

I just picked it up and thought they were brilliant. Are those guys popular over there?

[guyone]

I thought that he was one of the most brilliant characters ever!

[White_Male_Canada]

The fact that I have you so agitated and beside yourself...

Intelligent people do tend to become annoyed by assholes like yourself and TFan!

Of course, intelligent people like algore "the SCIENTIST" and yourself. 8)

How does one "try to tell the truth"? LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!

If you think there is a human adult alive who hasn't told a lie, or has the urge to lie, then you really are a fool TFan.

Listen Cristina, men don't "try to tell the truth", they TELL THE TRUTH.



But like I've said previously, the complexities and subtleties of life do seem to be lost on you TFan!

LMAOO! How frequently do you use the crutch of "Complexities and subtleties" to explain away your lies? Did it start when mommy busted your ass for stealing cookies from the cookie jar?

Probably went something like this! LMAO





Cristina at 6 years old: "Heh, I'm gonna steal one of them cookies! (climbs up to counter, puts hand in cookie jar)"

Cristina's mom: "Cristina! Stealing is wrong! You should always ask permission!"

Cristina: "Well mom, I was going to, but then it got really complex. You see, you were in the other room and I figured it was just one cookie and well, I didn't think you'd notice something as subtle as a missing cookie!"





Do America a favor; Don't reproduce. We don't need anymore manipulators popping those thought disorder pills.

[White_Male_Canada]

Sunday, 03/18/07

Tenn. mine enriched Gore, scarred land
No major pollution violations, but threat remains

CARTHAGE, Tenn. - Al Gore has profited from zinc mining that has released millions of pounds of potentially toxic substances near his farmstead, but there is no evidence the mine has caused serious damage to the environment in the area or threatened the health of his neighbors.

Two massive white mountains of leftover rock waste are evidence of three decades of mining that earned Gore more than $500,000 in royalty payments for the mineral rights to his property

“Mining is not exactly synonymous with being green, is it?” said John Mullins, who lives in nearby Cookeville. A conservative, Mullins welcomes the resumption of mining for the benefits it will bring the community. But he says Gore’s view that global warming is a certainty is arrogant and that by being connected to mining, Gore is not “walking the walk.”

Al Gore Jr.’s involvement in mining can be traced to Sept. 22, 1973.

Former U.S. Sen. Albert Gore Sr. bought about 88 acres along the Caney Fork River from Occidental Minerals, a subsidiary of Occidental Petroleum, for $160,000. Included in the deal was the subsurface area. The rights to the minerals below ground were then leased back to Occidental.

On the same day, Gore Sr. sold the land and subsurface area to his 25-year-old son and daughter-in-law for $140,000. The mineral lease to Occidental was put in their names.

Kreider said the terms of the 30-year agreement provided the Gores “no legal recourse” even if they had wanted to cancel it, Kreider said.

The Gores, she said, would not comment on whether they tried to pursue legal action to void the lease. “There is a certain zone of privacy once people go into private life.”

Gore received $20,000 a year for 27 years and $10,000 a year for three years, making a total of $570,000 in lease payments. Kreider said the Gores never considered selling the land.

She said the lease has to be viewed in a “1973 context, not a 2007 context.”

“There was a different environmental sensibility about all sorts of things,” she said.

The Environmental Protection Agency began reporting toxic releases from metal mining operations for the first time in 1998.In its last year of full operation in 2002, the Gordonsville-Cumberland mines ranked 22nd among all metal mining operations in the U.S., with about 4.1 million pounds of toxic releases. The top releasing mine, Red Dog Mine in Alaska, emitted about 482 million pounds that year. In 2002, Smith County ranked 39th out of more than 3,000 U.S. counties for lead compound releases and 21st for cadmium releases, according to tallies by Scorecard, a Web site run by environmentalists that compiles federal data.

Even Gore noted in his letter that, according to Scorecard, “pollution releases from the mine in 2002 placed it among the ‘dirtiest/worst facilities’ in the U.S.”

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070318/NEWS01/70316074