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guyone
02-26-2007, 06:50 PM
This is a perfect example of how liberals brush off any tax cuts as "benefits for the rich" without actually using their brains to think about how this actually works:

"It's just a tax cut for the rich!" and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really mean? Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

a. The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
b. The fifth would pay $ 1.
c. The sixth would pay $3.
d. The seventh would pay $7.
e. The eighth would pay $12.
f. The ninth would pay $18.
g. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." Dinner for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free, but what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to eat their meal. So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

a. The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
b. The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
c. The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
d. The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings)
e. The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
f. The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works! The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. When your taxes are about the same as others' income, we'll consider listening to your whining . . . that is, if you still don't get it.


LET THE GAMES BEGIN...

White_Male_Canada
02-26-2007, 09:29 PM
That`s not fair ! It`s time everbody paid their fair share ! ! ! 8)

PS: Why should chefmike not have to pay taxes ? :P

specialk
02-27-2007, 12:42 AM
This is a perfect example of how liberals brush off any tax cuts as "benefits for the rich" without actually using their brains to think about how this actually works:

"It's just a tax cut for the rich!" and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really mean? Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

a. The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
b. The fifth would pay $ 1.
c. The sixth would pay $3.
d. The seventh would pay $7.
e. The eighth would pay $12.
f. The ninth would pay $18.
g. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." Dinner for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free, but what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to eat their meal. So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so:

a. The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
b. The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
c. The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
d. The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings)
e. The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
f. The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works! The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. When your taxes are about the same as others' income, we'll consider listening to your whining . . . that is, if you still don't get it.


LET THE GAMES BEGIN...

what a waste of bandwith...don't ever try and make up anything original anymore....stick to other peoples material fer chrissakes!

thombergeron
02-27-2007, 01:04 AM
So it is your belief that 40% of the wage earners in this country have a total tax liability of zero dollars?

If you have something to conribute about U.S. tax policy, could you base your argument on something real instead of cutting-and-pasting word problems from your sixth-grade math book?

Honestly, that's just embarrassing. Did you actually get public education in this country? If so, that's just a disgrace. We should all be ashamed.

guyone
02-27-2007, 01:22 AM
You'll see once you get off the dole and start working you'll want to keep some of it as well. It also gives you something to do during the day.

thombergeron
02-27-2007, 02:05 AM
You'll see once you get off the dole and start working you'll want to keep some of it as well. It also gives you something to do during the day.

Excellent syntax. You continue to impress.

specialk
02-27-2007, 02:10 AM
You'll see once you get off the dole and start working you'll want to keep some of it as well. It also gives you something to do during the day.

ROTFLMAO........your 19 yrs. old living at home......the ultimate dole :lol: :lol:

Quinn
02-27-2007, 02:51 AM
You'll see once you get off the dole and start working you'll want to keep some of it as well. It also gives you something to do during the day.

LMAO...... You're how old??? Nineteen?????? I’ll tell you what, junior, when you move out of your parent’s house, maybe you can rent one of my houses or a flat in one of my apartment buildings. Trust me, you don't know what it means to pay high taxes.

-Quinn

guyone
02-27-2007, 06:08 AM
What's wrong wih living at home?


All of you do!

trish
02-27-2007, 07:24 AM
that's true...but our homes are in the real world, neo.

guyone
02-27-2007, 07:57 AM
oooh...got me there.

02-27-2007, 11:55 AM
You'll see once you get off the dole and start working you'll want to keep some of it as well. It also gives you something to do during the day.

Excellent syntax. You continue to impress.

Attacking the guys "syntax" doesn't prove shit.

guyone
02-27-2007, 07:20 PM
Thank you Tfan. BTW ever examine his syntax?

02-28-2007, 02:01 AM
Thank you Tfan. BTW ever examine his syntax?


Nah. I just read the bullshit and disregard the syntax.

White_Male_Canada
02-28-2007, 02:49 AM
Thank you Tfan. BTW ever examine his syntax?

I pay a 'syntax' every time I buy a bottle of Glenlivet. 8)

guyone
02-28-2007, 06:19 AM
Pure Bolshevism.

02-28-2007, 06:26 AM
Pure Bolshevism.

lol

No, that would be Stolichnaya.

guyone
02-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Wow you sure got a lot of time on your hands!

thombergeron
03-02-2007, 01:31 AM
Attacking the guys "syntax" doesn't prove shit.

I wasn't looking to prove anything, but merely to illustrate that guy is incapable of adequately communicating in his native language. I think that's sad.

specialk
03-02-2007, 01:36 AM
Wow you sure got a lot of time on your hands!

And now you do too...kid :P

03-02-2007, 01:36 AM
Attacking the guys "syntax" doesn't prove shit.

I wasn't looking to prove anything, but merely to illustrate that guy is incapable of adequately communicating in his native language. I think that's sad.


Now you're playing on words.

trish
03-02-2007, 02:38 AM
:cry: