I'm just saying

[hondarobot]

I wasted two years chasing a girl who never told me her name, That was the stupidest thing I ever did in my life.

Doh!

[Dkg]

ok....and?

[hondarobot]

I'm just saying.

[Vicki Richter]

My name is Delilah Kotero. I am not sure who you were talking about though.

[hondarobot]

Shut up and go to bed.

And your little dog, too!

[hondarobot]

I didn't mean that in a bad way. I'm just saying.

It might sound bad, but it wasn't intended that way.

Never go to bed angry.

[yodajazz]

I wrote a song a while ago called "Love is it's Own Reward". Basically to say that if you felt some love at one time, that was an end in itself. At least you know what it feels like so you will know when you find it again.

As long as you keep moving forward and have some love for yourself, something good is on the path that you are headed!

[suckseed]

Move on dot org!

[AlexisAngel]

lol this is weird but your joking right? 2 years is a long time to chase after someone and not know there name

[chefmike]

:roll:

[arc angel]

honda, i know where you are comin from.


chef, are you the new ballbuster in the room? doin a great job !!!!!!

[BeardedOne]

Wazzit Lisa Caterra?

:wink:

[crayons]

I wasted two years chasing a girl who never told me her name, That was the stupidest thing I ever did in my life.

Doh!

That's pretty pathetic. You should just bite the gun and pay for sex.

[LG]

My name is Delilah Kotero.

That's a nice name Vicki, but isn't it already taken? Vaniity (whose original name was apparently Pedro Kotero) gives precisely that as her name according to Wikipedia and IMDB.

In any case, people, everyone...can we have some closure please?

Thank you.

[crayons]

Girls aren't in porn because of their intelligence.

[chefmike]

lol this is weird but your joking right? 2 years is a long time to chase after someone and not know there name

Joking?

The briefest glance at the histrionics that he has visited upon this forum would certainly convince you otherwise.

Just click on his profile if you doubt me...

He's batshit crazy!

[AlexisAngel]

umm chefmike
what the hell are you talkin about? and excuase me im not a he im a t-Girl

[LG]

Alexis, I think he means hondarobot, actually.

Then again, I could be wrong. This discussion seems to have confused us all.

[Fox]

chefmike is referring to honda.

Two years? God damn. Desperation is very un-becoming. Good luck on the next girl.

[AlexisAngel]

um ok it just seem like hes was talking to me ..yes this discussion have confused the hell out of me

[suckseed]

I've been with something like three dozen women in my lifetime. Not once in twenty-five years have I ever pursued anyone past the first 'No, thank you.'

I guess I have this weird thing about feelings being mutual. And not making someone I'm attracted to and therefore care about uncomfortable.

I don't hate Honda. I think (and hope) that he simply confused infatuation and persistence with stalking. If you read this, Honda, I implore you to digest this thought: you put her in the difficult situation of trying to dissuade you without being mean about it. Feeling like you're being stalked is not fun. I've had the unfortunate experience of holding a shattered woman who confided in me that she was the victim of a man who wouldn't take no for an answer, and felt everything from sorrow for her to helpless rage at that man (the incident occurred in a foreign country.) She told me the asshole was convinced she wanted him - because she'd simply been friendly and allowed him to show her the city.

You majorly crossed some lines. You owe her an apology, and you need to take a hard look at yourself. I'm just saying.

[chefmike]

umm chefmike
what the hell are you talkin about? and excuase me im not a he im a t-Girl

???

Read again...

[hondarobot]

Suckseed, you're crazy. I've tried to cut communication with a certain girl many times, but some girls play games with guys to keep them in the chase. I'd think you'd know that.

I shouldn't have kept up the chase, but I did. I was convinced I could work things out, and I was wrong repeatedly.

A lot of people know what has been going on for a long time in this situation. Many of them have even turned on me of late.

J knew ("I can't stand the way she acts towards you"), this Chef Mike weirdo knew (various quotes where he tried to be my Amigo), Seanchai knew ("You gotta taste the sour before you taste the sweet"), most of the girls here knew, it seems everybody but you figured things out long ago.

I'd link to old posts, but only crazy people do that. Look it up yourself, it's all on here somewhere.

You're trying to kiss her ass and mine, good luck with that.

You know she'll read this, she can give whatever version of things she wants to manufacture. She knows I can proove her wrong. Beyond that, I have no reason to have anything to do with her anymore. Stop bumping these posts and the subject will be closed.

I keep trying to let this thing die, but some of you have nothing better to post about.

[chefmike]

:lol:

[suckseed]

It's not that I have nothing better to do. And this is a two day old thread started by you. Strange way of letting the matter drop. And, predictably, you insist you have done nothing wrong. And my understanding of events is that she told you not to come, but agreed to meet you because she didn't want to seem like a complete bitch when you spent all your money to come see her.
She admits she had fun for the first few hours. Beyond that, I wasn't there, but I'm told you molested either a drunk and/or a sleeping woman. So....I'm siding with her right there.
You imply that she's been being coy ever since. I contend that she hoped that the whole thing could be moved past, and you two could be friendly.
You have never stated that you feel your behavior might have been inappropriate. You think you understand her in a way that the rest of us can't comprehend. Presumably this understanding overrules her own feelings - as if she simply needs to come to her senses about you.
I say - bullshit. It doesn't matter what happened, whether she batted her lashes at the time or what. It's fun to flirt. But rational adults don't take it seriously if it isn't followed by further overtures. You can say what you want - but you can't say anything about the simple fact that if she wanted you, she'd have let you know. 'Oh, I just wanted closure.' Again - bullshit!
You simply refused to let her edge away gracefully. She's got class, and you try to intimate that she's simply leaving you confused about the state of things.
Why do I care? Why do I post about this? Because unlike her, I'm not too nice to spell things out in black and white. Does it seem like this is an issue for me? You bet. I will never stand by whenever I'm aware that a man is invading a woman's comfort zone. There are those who interpret this as kissing woman's asses - I say bite my sack. Men are bigger and stronger and do most of the sexual assaulting. It's not fucking funny to me.
For the umpteenth time - you drop this and I will.

[chefmike]

Suckseed, you're crazy. I've tried to cut communication with a certain girl many times, but some girls play games with guys to keep them in the chase. I'd think you'd know that.

I shouldn't have kept up the chase, but I did. I was convinced I could work things out, and I was wrong repeatedly.

[suckseed]

Oh - a story, after remembering you stating that a woman does not agree to go into a man's hotel room unless she's ready to have sex (you should have a beer with Kobe).
Several years ago, I drove to the town of a girl I met on the road while on tour with my band. She and I had stayed in touch, and I was crazy about her.Coincidentally, she was blond and the most beautiful woman I'd ever kissed. We drank a bunch of wine with her roommate and her roomates boyfriend, and she invited me to stay the night. we ended up naked in bed. We made out, and i went down on her. She came. I stood up and was in the middle of putting on a condom when she said, "What are you doing?" I replied gallantly, "I think we should use condoms." She replied,"Um...we're not having sex."
D'oh!
I was embarrassed, quite frustrated and a little disgruntled, but i didn't show it, got back in bed, she gave me a happy ending, and within six weeks we were lovers. We were together for two years, and I still love her. That was in 1999. So don't talk to me about being led on.

[chefmike]

At least she was awake.

[suckseed]

Yeah, honda should try that. It's all the rage, conscious lovers.

[chefmike]

Yeah, honda should try that. It's all the rage, conscious lovers.

But what about the "lucky" lady who happens to be conscious with 'tardbot at the time...

It's a lose/lose situation for his stalkee, er, date.

[hondarobot]

Calling me a stalker, that's classic. Look at your own posts.

I don't know why you're allowed to post on this forum, I don't know why you desperately want my attention, but anyone who wants to can look at your posts.

[suckseed]

from wikipedia.
Stalking is a legal term for repeated harassment or other forms of invasion of a person's privacy in a manner that causes fear to its target. Statutes vary between jurisdiction but may include such acts as:

* repeated physical following;
* unwanted contact (by letter or other means of communication);
* observing a person's actions closely for an extended period of time; or
* contacting family members, friends, or associates of a target inappropriately
* cyberstalking

According to the US's National Center for Victims of Crime, one out of every 12 women will be stalked during her lifetime. One out of every 45 men will be stalked during his lifetime. Over one million women and nearly 380,000 men are stalked annually.[1]
Contents
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* 1 Psychology and behaviors
o 1.1 Types of stalkers
o 1.2 Gender Studies in Stalking Pathology
* 2 Laws on stalking
* 3 Effects of stalking
o 3.1 On a victim's mental and emotional health
o 3.2 On a victim’s physiological health
* 4 What to do about stalking
* 5 For further reading
* 6 Stalking in media and literature
* 7 See also
* 8 References
* 9 External links

[edit] Psychology and behaviors

Stalking exists on a continuum of severity. The stalking may be subtle enough that the victim may not even be aware that it is happening, or the perpetrator may have no malicious intent. They may even have a sincere belief that the victim would like them, or have a desire to help the victim.[2] Contrary to other crimes that usually consist of a single act, stalking consists of a series of actions, which in themselves can be legal, such as calling on the phone, sending gifts, or sending emails.[3] Most cases of stalking do not ever escalate to extreme levels of violence or harassment. [1]

The stalker will often derogate the victim which reduces them to an object. This allows the stalker to feel angry at them without experiencing empathy, or feel they are entitled to behave as they please toward the victim. Viewing the victim as "lesser," "weak" or otherwise seriously flawed can support delusions that the victim needs to be rescued, or punished, by the stalker. They may slander or defame the character of the victim which helps to isolate them and give the stalker more control, or a feeling of power.

Stalkers may use manipulative behavior such as bringing legal action against the victim, or threatening to commit suicide in order to coerce the victim to intervene - all methods of forcing the victim to have contact with the stalker.

Stalkers may use threats and violence to frighten the victim. They may engage in vandalism and property damage (usually to the victim's car or domicile). They may use physical attacks that leave abrasions and bruises which are mostly meant to frighten. Less common are physical attacks that leave serious physical injuries, or sexual assaults.[2]

[edit] Types of stalkers

Psychologists tend to group stalkers into two categories: psychotic and nonpsychotic. Many stalkers have pre-existing psychotic disorders such as delusional disorder, schizoaffective disorder, or schizophrenia. Most stalkers are nonpsychotic and exhibit disorders such as major depression, adjustment disorder, or substance dependence, as well as a variety of Axis II personality disorders, such as antisocial, avoidant, borderline, dependent, narcissistic, or paranoid. The nonpsychotic stalkers' pursuit of victims can be influenced by various psychological factors, including anger and hostility, projection of blame, obsession, dependency, minimization and denial, and jealousy. [4]

In "A Study of Stalkers," Mullen et al (2000) [5] [6] identify six types of stalkers:

* Rejected stalkers: pursue their victims in order to reverse, correct, or avenge a rejection (e.g. divorce, separation, termination).
* Resentful stalkers: pursue a vendetta because of a sense of grievance against the victims - motivated mainly by the desire to frighten and distress the victim.
* Intimacy seekers: The intimacy seeker seeks to establish an intimate, loving relationship with their victim. To them, the victim is a long sought-after soul mate, and they were meant to be together.
* Eroto-manic stalker: This stalker believes that the victim is in love with them. The erotomaniac reinterprets what their victim says and does to support the delusion, and is convinced that the imagined romance will eventually become a permanent union. They often target a celebrity or a person of a higher social status (though it is important to note, not all celebrity stalkers are erotomaniacs).
* Incompetent suitor: despite poor social/courting skills, possess a sense of entitlement to an intimate relationship with those who have attracted their amorous interest.
* Predatory stalker: spy on the victim in to prepare and plan an attack - usually sexual – on the victim.

Many stalkers fit categories with paranoid disorders. Intimacy-seeking stalkers often have delusional disorders that are secondary to preexisting psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia. With rejected stalkers, the continual clinging to a relationship of an inadequate or dependant person couples with the entitlement of the narcissistic personality, and the persistent jealousy of the paranoid personality. In contrast, resentful stalkers demonstrate an almost “pure culture of persecution,” with delusional disorders of the paranoid type, paranoid personalities, and paranoid schizophrenia. [5]

[edit] Gender Studies in Stalking Pathology

Most stalkers are male, but women can also be stalkers. The demographic characteristics of the male and female stalkers do not differ, although more male stalkers report a history of criminal offenses and more report substance abuse. The psychiatric status of male and female stalkers do not otherwise differ. The duration of the time invested in stalking and the frequency of associated violence were equivalent between male and female stalkers. Women are more likely to target someone they have known such as a professional contact, and are more likely to target other females. Men, on the other hand, do not usually target other men. Women are also much less likely to target a stranger. .[7] [6]

In "A Study of Women Who Stalk", by Purcell, Pathé and Mullen, the authors concluded that the two major psychiatric variables that differentiate female from male stalkers is motivation for stalking and choice of victim. Female stalkers seek intimacy with the victim, who usually is someone already known. The victim is most often chosen from those who assume a professional role of helper. This could be a doctor or nurse, a therapist or counselor. Context was found to differ, but the conclusion was the intrusiveness and harmfulness did not. In other words, female stalkers are potentially as dangerous as any male stalker.[7]

Laws on stalking

The first state to criminalise stalking in the United States is California enacted in 1990[8] due to several high profile stalking cases in California, including the 1982 attempted murder of actress Theresa Saldana[9], the 1988 massacre by Richard Farley[10], the 1989 murder of actress Rebecca Schaeffer[11], and five Orange County stalking murders in 1990.[12][10] The first anti-stalking law in the United States, California Penal Code Section 646.9, was developed and proposed by Municipal Court Judge John Watson of Orange County. Watson with U.S. Congressman Ed Royce introduced the law in 1990. [12][13]

Within three years[12] thereafter, every state in the United States and some other common-law jurisdictions followed suit to create the crime of stalking, under different names such as criminal harassment or criminal menace. The Driver's Privacy Protection Act (DPPA) was enacted in 1994 in response to numerous cases of a driver's information being abused for criminal activity, examples such as the Saldana and Schaeffer stalking cases.[14][15] The DPPA prohibits states from disclosing a driver's personal information without consent by State Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Laws against stalking in different jurisdictions vary, and so do the definitions. Some make the act illegal as it stands, while others do only if the stalking becomes threatening or endangers the receiving end. In England and Wales, liability may arise in the event that the victim suffers either mental or physical harm as a result of being stalked (see R. v. Constanza). Many states in the US also recognize stalking as grounds for issuance of a civil restraining order. Since this requires a lower burden of proof than a criminal charge, laws recognizing non-criminal allegations of stalking suffer the same risk of abuse seen with false allegations of domestic violence. [citation needed]

Section 264 of the Criminal Code of Canada, titled "criminal harassment" [16] addresses acts which are termed "stalking" in many other jurisdictions. The provisions of the section came into force in August of 1993 with the intent of further strengthening laws protecting women. [17] It is a hybrid offence, which may be punishable upon summary conviction or as an indictable offence, the latter of which which may carry a prison term of up to ten years. Section 264 has withstood Charter challenges [18].

In 2000, Japan enacted a national law to combat this behaviour. Acts of stalking can be viewed as "interfering [with] the tranquility of others' lives", and are prohibited under petty offence laws. In China, since 1987 (now replaced by a new law, with similar substance). [citation needed] stalking, as in the context of organised crimes suppression, is expressly forbidden under Macau's laws.[citation needed]

Effects of stalking

Stalking does not consist of single incidents, but is a continuous process. Stalking can be a terrifying experience for victims, placing them at risk of psychological trauma, and possible physical harm. As Rokkers writes, "Stalking is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom he has no relationship (or no longer has)....Moreover, the separated acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but do taken together (cumulative effect)."

[chefmike]

Calling me a stalker, that's classic. Look at your own posts.

I don't know why you're allowed to post on this forum, I don't know why you desperately want my attention, but anyone who wants to can look at your posts.

LMFAO!

They are certainly welcome to look at my posts, 'tardbot.

As I matter of fact I wish they would. And I certainly hope that they continue to read yours. :lol: :P

I'm pretty sure that not many of them, if any, live in your alternate reality.

You jackass.

[hondarobot]

But you are my love, Chef Mike, why do you treat me this way?

Suckseed as well.

:lol:

[specialk]

Is popcorn fattening?..........I feel a bag coming on ... :popcorn AGAIN

[suckseed]

So...just to be clear: exposing and/or attempting to use reason/logic with a stalker is not stalking. Nor is it trying to be someone's 'online friend.' Nor is it trying to impress the victim. Gee what could it be? Could it be that 2 = 2?
Could exposing and/or attempting to use reason/logic with a stalker really be, simply, exposing and/or attempting to use reason/logic with a stalker?
To quote the eminient behaviorologist Samuel Jackson... "English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

[hondarobot]

You guys are becoming boring. But, trolls come and go.

The most amazing thing is just how lame you weirdos are.

Regardless, please continue as long as possible. It is somewhat amusing..

[suckseed]

Why not take five minutes, Jeff, and read the wiki article, and see if anything rings a little bell. Feel free to write several paragraphs defending your actions, detailing precisely why the term doesn't apply to you. We'll be standing by.

You say you are willing to let her go. Prove it. Stop responding to her posts - cause that's not letting go. Stop calling her little pet names like goofball - that implies intimacy where none exists, cupcake. Stop referring to 'blondie' as if that's some sort of Apache code only two people on the board can interpret.

Do ya think you can do any of these things, buttercup?

[hondarobot]

Come on, Suckseed, you do the homework. I'm sure all the girls are raging over you, and the rest of my stalking entourage. That being SpecialK, Chef Mike, I'm not sure who else.

I'm not the only one laughing at you clowns.

[chefmike]

I'm not the only one laughing at you clowns.

[hondarobot]

OK, we'll game it. 24 hours until one girl posts, contacts, or interacts with you trolls in any way. I don't think that will happen. It never really has with you guys.

This applies to Suckseed, Chef Mike, and all the TS chasing weirdos.

We had a good forum going here. These crazy losers are killing this place.

[hondarobot]

I'm not the only one laughing at you clowns.

I'm going to take a moment to talk to you, stalker. I feel sorry for you, not to a great degree, but you don't seem to realise that by being fixated on me, everyone here knows you're crazy.

You do make a great "angry troll".

[suckseed]

Come on, Suckseed, you do the homework. I'm sure all the girls are raging over you, and the rest of my stalking entourage. That being SpecialK, Chef Mike, I'm not sure who else.

I'm not the only one laughing at you clowns.

That's called changing the subject, Jeff. Once again, and I'll type slowly.
What makes your behavior different? Why isn't it stalking? What evidence can you present that your attentions are welcomed by her in any way?


Hostilities aside, Jeff. You're a decent looking guy, frequently kind of strangely amusing, you at least are always thinking of something new to do, you work in a happenin' nightclub, comfortable around ts, you're workin' the Joe Patagliano look, you say you have cute strippers around...tell you what. In all seriousness, say you've really moved on about this and I'll gladly completely drop it. It's not my nature to interact with someone else this way. Sometimes it's like verbal chess, but I'm sure it's also kind of irritating for others to read. I'm really not here to fuck with people. I'm sitting here practicing the guitar until my hands need a break, then I log on to here and two other forums for fun, for the hell of it.

Believe me - my only point here is to try to get you to say that you'd never do anything to make Vicki be worried about her safety. Just say that here, now, and I'll let this whole fucking thing go. Please.

[hondarobot]

I have this forum up as a tab that I check on occasion. I just checked it, and I saw another rant. Go away, I dont care about you.

Stop posting about me.

[suckseed]

Are you really going to deny making that simple statement?

[hondarobot]

I just read this rant. How would I make "Vicki" worried about her safety?

Would I move down to Arizona and wander about, trying to find her? That's retarded. Even if I did find her by some amazing miracle, I'd just want to kiss her again.

That's the truth. I don't see it happening again, so Just Fuckin Drop It.

This post is stupid.

[suckseed]

I guess I'll have to be happy with that remark, Jeff.

But take a second and think about this. How the hell is she supposed to know that you're never going to do anything that would frighten her? Is she supposed to take your word for it? Given that you've admitted sending her bizarre messages in the past, etc.? Nobody else here to my knowledge has ever made a cross-country trip to see any of these women.

Hopefully you mean no harm. But how is she supposed to know that?
You and I were cordial to each other here once. I'd have no problem with that being the status of things. You should trust my sincerity on all this. I'm not trying to be a hero here. Everyone here is a complete stranger to me, and that's the way I like it. I've told you this before, if Vicki was into you, then I'd butt out. It's my understanding that she isn't. Thus my posts here. there's nothing more to it.

Peace.

[hondarobot]

Peace right back. Vicki is a liar, she does this to protect herself.

Fuck you for doubting my actions, Suckseed. Fuck her for being a liar of convenience.

That's the truth. It really doesn't matter anymore, so move the fuck on.

[chefmike]

I just read this rant. How would I make "Vicki" worried about her safety?

Would I move down to Arizona and wander about, trying to find her? That's retarded. Even if I did find her by some amazing miracle, I'd just want to kiss her again.

That's the truth. I don't see it happening again, so Just Fuckin Drop It.

This post is stupid.

So says John Hinckley, Jr.

Hinckley's fixation also started with a movie that featured a "blondie."

And it wasn't even a porn movie.

Although it's obvious that you fancy yourself more of a Travis Bickle type stalker, isn't it?*

The stalker as hero...



*With the obvious exception of Travis Bickle driving, and you admittedly being afraid to, greyhound boy.

[hondarobot]

That's great Chef Mike, you have made a great stride towards establishing the fact that you are not insane.

Whoops, not!

[suckseed]

Honestly, Mike, I don't want to make Honda feel like he has anything in common with those guys. Jeff, you are better than that. That is not a road that anyone needs to go down. I'd never forgive myself if I discovered I drove someone into making some sort of Grand Statement. Fun is fun, but we're not the ones who might be looking out our windows at night wondering whether someone's watching.

I do think it's rather lame of the other women on this board not to chime in on this issue. But guys are better at working out their differences or even slugging it out and then having a beer together. That's okay, ladies. I'm sure you fully intended to voice your support of healthy boundaries just as soon as those nails dried. I'll go get that bowl of milk.

[Felicia Katt]

sorry, Honda, but I haven't seen one single solitary sign that Vicki wants anything to do with you. To the contrary, she won't speak with you here and you are exiled from her board. You will say over and over something like you are done, or over it, or moving on, but then you keep resurrecting your fantasy with subsequent posts about being a Costa Rican poolboy, or doing a Da Vinci code thing from the times when Vicky posts, or stepping in front of a message clearly directed to someone else.

You had a dream. You made it seem real, but just for a moment and now its over and you can't get it back. Stop hitting the snooze button, and wake up. I don't agree with Chefmike's tactics or mockery of you, but I do agree with his and the others' assessment. You are coming off as a stalker. You seem like a nice enough guy, with valid and interesting points of view, except for the obsessive stuff or the angry stuff when confronted over it. But thats a little like "Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play". Do yourself, Vicki and everyone else a big favor, and actually be done and over it.

Chef, and Suckseed, while you might not understand his sense of loss, can you at least accept and respect it to maybe observe a unilateral cease fire, and leave Honda alone. to move on?

FK

[Felicia Katt]

I do think it's rather lame of the other women on this board not to chime in on this issue. But guys are better at working out their differences or even slugging it out and then having a beer together. That's okay, ladies. I'm sure you fully intended to voice your support of healthy boundaries just as soon as those nails dried. I'll go get that bowl of milk.

I was posting my post while you were posting this. I didn't do it in response to it. I was hoping this whole tempest would get back in the teacup, and blow over but that didn't happen.

FK

[hondarobot]

What a strange ending to this story. I've always respected you Felicia, always will.

It was just an odd story, and I never lied.

[chefmike]

You've been proven a liar and a fop here countless times.

Stop lying.

[Felicia Katt]

Truth springs from argument amongst friends.
David Hume.

Turn the page, close the book, lock it in the bookcase, the story is over.

FK

[hondarobot]

You've been proven a liar and a fop here countless times.

Stop lying.

He used the word "fop" in a sentance. He is gay.

That being said, can anyone, beyond the sappy dorks, explain why Vicki Richter would get so drunk she couldn't drive home, and get into bed with me?

Nope. Nobody can explain that beyond that she wanted sex. That's the deal.

Drop it. Talk about something else. Losers.

[hwbs]

:popcorn http://media.putfile.com/Conan-vs-Chuck-Norris

[suckseed]

I stepped away for a minute. I guess one should never do that! I was about to pm you for that Felicia, but yes, thanks. I will totally agree to respect the fact that Honda had a dream. And a wonderful one. Once the other party doesn't accept the invitation to dance, though...well you know. And I have no desire to rub his nose in anything but rational thought.

[hondarobot]

Well, thanks Felecia. I wasn't stalking Vicki, and that's all I have to say.

[suckseed]

That being said, can anyone, beyond the sappy dorks, explain why Vicki Richter would get so drunk she couldn't drive home, and get into bed with me?
Nope. Nobody can explain that beyond that she wanted sex. That's the deal.

Sigh. Once more into the breech.
Okay. Vicki likes (or did at one time) to have a drink or three now and then. You may have heard of people doing this. Allanah herself brought up V's getting trashed at a party in NYC years ago. Seanchai mentioned it once too. I don't think Vicki wanted to sleep with Allanah and Seanchai...but I could be wrong.

Now...why do you ever drink, Honda? To get lucky with yourself?
She was having fun. She overindulged. Ever wonder why she left that night?
Because you scraped her with your teeth? Because it was all just too wonderful? You let a fart slip out?
Or, could it be that a little thought slipped past the margarita's in her cerebrum and said, "Hmm...this is probably not a good idea."

Ding! Ding! Thank you for playing! Show the man what he's won, Carol!

[chefmike]

That being said, can anyone, beyond the sappy dorks, explain why Vicki Richter would get so drunk she couldn't drive home, and get into bed with me?


Of course they can...

[suckseed]

Hey, Chef! ever have a girl act like you were gonna get lucky, but then didn't sleep with ya? Whut'ja do?

[Felicia Katt]

That being said, can anyone, beyond the sappy dorks, explain why Vicki Richter would get so drunk she couldn't drive home, and get into bed with me?
Nope. Nobody can explain that beyond that she wanted sex. That's the deal.
Drop it. Talk about something else. Losers.
Honda, I have driven Vicki home when she has had too much to drink. She grabbed my butt. That didn't mean she wanted to have sex with me. She left her shoes in my car. That doesn't mean she was making a gift of them to me. Being under the influence of alcohol means being impaired. You can't drive a car, you can't exercise good judgment and you can't consent. You can want sex and then get drunk to make it happen, or you can get drunk and then want sex and regret that it happened . The fact she stopped you and left in the middle means it was was the latter.

Everyone seems to want the last word here. Can you let me have it, with this post. so everyone can get back to their ten favorite Kelly Shore threads instead? Its all been said and done and resaid and redone and unlike chili, none of this is better when its reheated

Thanks

FK

[hondarobot]

My God, you losers are really desperate. Here's my pic, trolls don't post pics.

8)

[hondarobot]

I totally agree Felicia, but she wanted sex. I'm just saying, if you want to think I'm lying, so be it. I'm not.

[chefmike]

Hey, Chef! ever have a girl act like you were gonna get lucky, but then didn't sleep with ya? Whut'ja do?

I did what any man with a shred of self-respect would do in that situation.

I moved on.

Ya win some and ya lose some...

It's hard but it's true.

That's reality.

[specialk]

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[hondarobot]

No, I'm not really done with this. TS girls, you wanna be treated with respect, then act like regular people. Most of these guys will kiss your ass because they chase a kink.

She flipped out for no reason on me, and lies about the situation.

You want to live in fantasy land, so be it.

[chefmike]

Uncanny resemblance...

Twin stalkers of different mothers?

[hondarobot]

No, I'm not really done with this. TS girls, you wanna be treated with respect, then act like regular people. Most of these guys will kiss your ass because they chase a kink.

She flipped out for no reason on me, and lies about the situation.

You want to live in fantasy land, so be it.

Bumping this because weird stalker has posted.

8)

[chefmike]

You want to live in fantasy land, so be it.

Seems to be working out pretty good so far for you, huh? :roll:

[suckseed]

No, I'm not really done with this. TS girls, you wanna be treated with respect, then act like regular people. Most of these guys will kiss your ass because they chase a kink.

She flipped out for no reason on me, and lies about the situation.

You want to live in fantasy land, so be it.

Her reasons were her own, and she's allowed to have them!
It's called CONSENT, BRIGHT BOY!

Jesus H!

[chefmike]

It's probably a good thing for her that he's such a scrawny little shit.

[Felicia Katt]

I give up. Honda, you have your side, Vicki has hers. When you tell your side, you aren't lying and when she told hers, neither was she. Even the thinnest pancake has two sides and this batter for this one is now as stale and runny as it gets. Honda, stop flipping it (and out) and the rest of you, put your knives, forks and syrup and butter away and just let it go, its not your breakfast or business anyhow.

FK

[suckseed]

I'm done. No problem.

[hondarobot]

I give up. Honda, you have your side, Vicki has hers. When you tell your side, you aren't lying and when she told hers, neither was she. Even the thinnest pancake has two sides and this batter for this one is now as stale and runny as it gets. Honda, stop flipping it (and out) and the rest of you, put your knives, forks and syrup and butter away and just let it go, its not your breakfast or business anyhow.

FK

Well, you gotta admit, Felicia, I've been trying to get over this thing a long time.

I think she's a great girl. She does play games, I'm just saying.

[chefmike]

I give up. Honda, you have your side, Vicki has hers. When you tell your side, you aren't lying and when she told hers, neither was she. Even the thinnest pancake has two sides and this batter for this one is now as stale and runny as it gets. Honda, stop flipping it (and out) and the rest of you, put your knives, forks and syrup and butter away and just let it go, its not your breakfast or business anyhow.

FK

Well, you gotta admit, Felicia, I've been trying to get over this thing a long time.

I think she's a great girl. She does play games, I'm just saying.

[hondarobot]

I give up. Honda, you have your side, Vicki has hers. When you tell your side, you aren't lying and when she told hers, neither was she. Even the thinnest pancake has two sides and this batter for this one is now as stale and runny as it gets. Honda, stop flipping it (and out) and the rest of you, put your knives, forks and syrup and butter away and just let it go, its not your breakfast or business anyhow.

FK

I agree, I do like Felecia, Vicki, and many other girls and always will.

I do flip out on occasion.

Nuff said.