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Stavros
02-27-2026, 07:08 PM
The long interview Tucker Carlson had with Mike Huckabee has generated a lot of comment online, most of it as worthless as most of the interview, but it does reflect the claim that in the last two years the average American support for Israel has declined as its sympathy for the Palestinians has increased.

I have little interest in that.

I am also not that interested in the lengths to which Huckabee goes to defend the State of Israel, and as for the 'let them take it all' response by Huckabee when Carlson asks him if the bible says God gave Abram the land from the Nile to the Euphrates, that is also not new.

I first heard of Ben-Gurion's 'Big Thing' in the 1970s when Israel was in occupation of Southern Lebanon, and it dates from a letter or document Ben-Gurion wrote around 1918 but in any case refers to how one defines the state of Israel, where it is, its borders and so on. When Belazel Smotrich last year said 'we won't stop until we reach Damascus' he meant it, though Likud has never really defined what it calls 'Erez israel'.

What strikes me is this: the literal interpretation of the Biblical verses that justify an exclusively Jewish ownership of the land.

First, this so-called God had no right to set aside one piece of land for the Jews, and it isn't even clear to me if the people at that time identified as Jews. There are thousands of Gods, and this particular God it is claimed made this promise 3800 years ago, why? Why then and not 5,000 years ago?

Second, and I think the key, is that much of the Bible, esp as translated into English, is not meant to be taken literally. There literally was no Adam and Eve, there might have been a major flood in the region, but it could just as easily be an allegory or a metaphor for some natural disaster the memory of which survived in folklore, and that guy in the British Museum claims to have probably proof.

So I suggest that the meaning of these verses actually intends to advise Abram and descendants to settle down and farm the land, where before as is also the case with Jacob, they were nomadic herders or hunter gatherers, and this would follow the Neolithic Revolution which made the growing of crops a viable means of sustaining life. Anyone with a half decent knowledge of the Middle East knows there has been a tension between 'the desert and the sown' for thousands of years, sometimes actual, sometimes cultural. indeed, there has been a similar tension in North America (and Australia) and is often at the core of the conflicts between the Pioneer Settlers claiming land from nomadic herders who don't see any reason to become sedentary.

Neither Carlson nor Huckabee can even imagine this debate, even though it is fundamental, for example in the story of Cain and Abel, the farmer vs the herder.

It is a long interview and if you can endure it, the whole of it is here.

Tucker Confronts Mike Huckabee on America’s Toxic Relationship With Israel - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS7itdfgNnU)

BostonBad
03-05-2026, 02:47 PM
They need a place to live and they were there before the Palestinian people.

This part of the world is a tinderbox, people need to wakeup. The other nations encircling Israel are very wealthy and could buy homes for the people in question in Israel or even in their own nations. They know this but purposely don't help.

Personally I don't want attacks, no dog in this fight for me. If I told either side how much dick I sucked or how much cum I swallowed, they would put me in prison or worse.

Stavros
03-06-2026, 12:25 PM
They need a place to live and they were there before the Palestinian people.



Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History: Amazon.co.uk: Masalha, Nur: 9781786992727: Books (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Palestine-Four-Thousand-Year-History/dp/1786992728)

filghy2
03-10-2026, 02:47 AM
The other nations encircling Israel are very wealthy and could buy homes for the people in question in Israel or even in their own nations.

As usual, you are ignorant. The countries that border Israel are Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon - none of which are wealthy because they don't have oil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

You are also ignorant of the fact that Israel regularly demolishes the home of Palestinians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property

Stavros
03-15-2026, 01:31 AM
Tucker Carlson talks to Carrie Prejean about the Religious Liberty Commission created by Trump and headed by the lunatic Paula White. On the one hand it is amusing to listen to segments of the MAGA Movement tearing each other to shreds, but it is oddly such a mix of the doctrinal and the personal it might be a re-run of the spat between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks in the years before 1917. Only this Revolution has yet to reach its boiling point.


Are Christians Required to Pledge Loyalty to Bibi Netanyahu? Carrie Prejean Boller & Tucker Respond. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Lhq-QlP8s)

Stavros
03-20-2026, 02:01 PM
I will not link the interview Tucker Carlson has had with Joe Kent. The only takeaway from it is Kent endorsing the official position of US Intelligence, that Iran's capacity to develop nuclear weapons was obliterated in June 2025 and that Iran does not pose a threat to the US. That Trump used this as a reason for Epic Fury thus places him in the position of lying, whereas Tulsi Gabbard when presented with this option merely stated that the President, presented with the intelligence, has the right to decide what it means, a novel explanation for refusing to tell the truth, the first casualty of war.

The real interest here is why Joe Kent was appointed in the first place, as he is no career diplomat or intelligence geek but a former uniform whose political views are in line with the MAGA-verse that has tried to spit him out. If you are not sure, his Wikipedia entry will set you right-
Joe Kent - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Kent)

More intriguing is the extent to which Epic Fury is enabling a hard core of anti-Semites in the US to use their 'critique' of Israel as an attack on Jews, who, of course, are everywhere, from 'acting President' Kushner, to Stephen Miller, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin and so on. The Kent Situation thus taps into an anti-Semitism that has a long and ugly history in the USA, and is referenced here-

The real reason Trump went to war wasn't about helping Israel: NYT editorial (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-real-reason-trump-went-to-war-wasn-t-about-helping-israel-nyt-editorial/ar-AA1YY8Ss)

As for Israel's key ambition, to become the dominant regional power in the Middle East to guarantee its security, that as usual gets a pass, by people who either don't know about it, don't care, or are just plain stupid. Guess that means most of Trump's Cabinet of Curiosities.

Stavros
04-09-2026, 02:48 AM
Carrie Prejean is back with her trumpet, this time on one of Piers Morgan's shows. On this occasion she uses the term 'occupation' as in "we are an occupied nation" (0.42) "a foreign country has occupied our Government". Chilling when you recall the murder of a journalist in 1984 by the Neo-Nazi 'Silent Brotherhood' who referred to the 'Zionist Occupation Government' (the feature film Betrayed (Costa-Gavras deals with this). I feel an historic American anti-Semitism is being smuggled into the debate around Israel and the war in Iran. There are and always have been ways to criticize Israel as a modern state, this is not the way to do it.

Stavros
04-09-2026, 02:53 AM
Carrie Prejean is back with her trumpet, this time on one of Piers Morgan's shows. On this occasion she uses the term 'occupation' as in "we are an occupied nation" (0.42) "a foreign country has occupied our Government". Chilling when you recall the murder of a journalist in 1984 by the Neo-Nazi 'Silent Brotherhood' who referred to the 'Zionist Occupation Government' (the feature film Betrayed (Costa-Gavras deals with this). I feel an historic American anti-Semitism is being smuggled into the debate around Israel and the war in Iran. There are and always have been ways to criticize Israel as a modern state, this is not the way to do it. Link is here but YouTube doesn't seem to load at the moment here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhW1oApxw74

Stavros
04-09-2026, 03:02 AM
Link fixed