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Stavros
09-01-2024, 08:00 AM
JD Vance is a pioneer of the cultural crusade that he hopes will save Judeo-Christian Civilization from 'the Left'. He has on one level attacked 'childless cat ladies' who play a role in the education of children even though they don't have any themselves, and thinks this is a rift in American society that needs to be bridged, perhaps by giving Parents more power than adults without children. I assume he also thinks that in Roman Catholic schools, neither Priests nor Nuns should be teaching children, for obvious reasons.

What strikes me as another key myth, is the 'suppression of Masculinity'-

"“one of the weird things about elite society is it’s deeply uncomfortable with masculinity”.Warming to the theme, Vance said: “This is one weird thing that conservatives don’t talk about enough … We don’t talk enough about the fact that traditional masculine traits are now actively suppressed from childhood all the way through adulthood.”".
‘Dangerous and un-American’: new recording of JD Vance’s dark vision of women and immigration | US elections 2024 | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/31/jd-vance-podcast-feminism-immigration)

What puzzles me about this, is that at the same time Vance is concerned about the 'disappearing MAN', I see them everywhere, and they are bad people doing bad things, the very things soaked in what Feminists might label 'Toxic Masculinity'. Is it a coincidence that the subject of the novel The Invisible Man by HG Wells, is an embittered, violent man who loathes the world he lives in and seeks to punish it for his own failures?

Here, for example, is a Guardian article on world leaders who are ultra Masculine and who preside over the mass murder of human beings, the destruction of their homes, and perhaps most of all, the destruction of Hope. History that gave us Hitler, Stalin and Mao, now offers us Putin, Netanyahu and Trump, and though the latter has not much of a record on military led slaughter, his persona is totally Macho and he has on more than one occasion threatened the US with violence even worse than Jan 6th.
Dare one compare these men with, say, Nelson Mandela, or Olaf Palme, or Jimmy Carter or any men in history who had a different, and more humanitarian view of politics and life, who, above all, were men everyone could admire?
In an unheroic age, Putin, Trump and Netanyahu are sick parodies of great men | Simon Tisdall | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/31/putin-trump-netanyahu-stalin-hitler-mao-successors)

Or take Martin Luther King, or worse, 'Martin Luther King on steroids' -that will be the man whose Masculinity is front, back and centre, in-your-face aggresison, devoid of the compassion that the real MLK had -because it is a sign of the weakness and humility that so enraged Nietzsche. Like this guy -sponsored by Trump of course-

"Since Trump’s endorsement Mr Robinson has courted more controversy by describing homosexuality as “filth”, saying transgender women should be arrested for using women’s toilets, and suggesting that dead bodies, cow manure and maggots served more of a purpose than gay relationships.
He also called school shooting survivors “media prosti-tots” for supporting gun-control policies, suggested Michelle Obama was a man, and called reports about the Holocaust “hogwash”.
But the comment that has arguably been most damaging to his campaign was his assertion that abortion (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/08/31/donald-trump-to-vote-against-florida-amendment-abortion/) is “killing the child because you weren’t responsible enough to keep your skirt down”.".
Donald Trump’s praise for ‘Martin Luther King on steroids’ may backfire on him (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-s-praise-for-martin-luther-king-on-steroids-may-backfire-on-him/ar-AA1pM879?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=e77cc23f436344e8b4131880dfa9e497&ei=6)

With men like these making a mess of the world we live in, who needs this so-called Masculinity? And if being a guy is really so threatened by 'the Left', is anyone surprised when the condition is so offensive, so lethal?

But there are decent men out there, it just needs more air time, just as the time has surely come when the same men who are doing so much damage were exposed for what they are and are doing, and given, if not a cloak of invisibility, a back seat in public affairs-

Maybe this is the time to elect a woman to the world's 'top job' --?

rodinuk
09-01-2024, 10:03 PM
Remember that Vance preaches to the converted, he really strikes me as a B-grade politician or a candidate on The Apprentice, his tongue covered in shit from all that brown-nosing.

The media are the military-industrial complex of communication, perhaps the more important customer rather than the public as far as the political players are concerned.

There are equally vile women out there like Sheik Haskina for example, or is that equal rights for women?

You’re never going to cleanse the system of bad actors and those men who are ‘good’ are probably best off left to continue their work out of the glare of the spotlight as the media’s favourite pastime is to destroy people once they have attained recognition

Stavros
09-02-2024, 09:18 AM
I don't know enough about Sheikh Hasina to know how she has governed, and there is the more obvious case here of Liz Truss, suggesting that having a woman as Prime Minister doesn't mean the admin of the country will be any better than a man, and that is without adding the careers in office of either Theresa May or Margaret Thatcher. That said, they also had men in their teams to advise them, though in the case of Theresa May and judged by his hysterical rants in the Telegraph, Nick Timothy did nothing good for this country. There are some links here related to Seldon's book on Truss-
Seven bombshells in new tell-all Liz Truss book - from Queen's death to 'hotel hoax' (yahoo.com) (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/seven-bombshells-tell-liz-truss-132401609.html)

I like to think Kamala Harris could not be as bad as Liz Truss, though the comparison may be unfair to the American.

I think the key point is not so much team work, as the men with giant egos who think they know everything and demand that other people put their desires into real time though some people will do it voluntarily because they have own agenda, which is clearly the case with Trump who is too stupid, lazy and incompetent to be President, but who hires people with Project 2025 ambitions. And with that I also don't know who is likely to be in the Harris White House team, and what their agenda(s) might be.