Young transgender model is redefining normal

[MrFanti]

https://news.yahoo.com/young-transgender-model-redefining-normal-225931775.html

Thoughts on the model being 10 years old?

[diddyboponTOP]

Disgusting

[peterdavies38]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 😡😡😡

[MrFanti]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 😡😡😡
Just so I can understand your perspective a bit more, do you think one can be mature enough to make a personal gender decision at age 10?

[peterdavies38]

Maybe read up on gender dysphoria?

[rodinuk]

Maybe consider that a 10 year old is a minor?

Keira Bell is a case in point:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/17/appeal-court-overturns-uk-puberty-blockers-ruling-for-under-16s-tavistock-keira-bell

[DvddyVirgo]

https://news.yahoo.com/young-transgender-model-redefining-normal-225931775.html

Thoughts on the model being 10 years old?

I think this is bad. I believe transwomen are women, but that's the thing they are women, adults, functioning humans that made a decision to transition
letting a child make such a big decision that will affect or alter their life will hurt them in the future if they never really know who they were in the first places
kids shouldn't be worry about their gender or sexuality they kids, have fun and enjoy their life without major pressure

[DvddyVirgo]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. ������

the fact that diddy is saying it's disgusting is good I would have gotten scared if he said it was sexy

[Stavros]

https://news.yahoo.com/young-transgender-model-redefining-normal-225931775.html

Thoughts on the model being 10 years old?

Maybe tell us what your thoughts are?

[GroobySteven]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 


Really?
I've no problem with someone transitioning when they feel it's right - but then to use her as catwalk model is sexualising and fetishing her, the same as putting any 10 year old in that position. Her being trans isn't relevant. At least in porn, we're up front about what we do and present legally aged people who are old enough to consent for themselves to be sexualised.

It seems like you are on the wrong forum. Take your outrage elsewhere.

Thanks for your second post in 13 years.

[Stavros]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 

Validation is complex for all, not just 'trans kids'. Can it be processed in public, at a fashion show? I don't know the details behind the relationship these two adults have with their child, but the arguments they make in the video don't encourage me to think positively about this.

Yes, lots of children model clothes for catalogues, internet shopping and so on, and I am sure there are market rates for such modeling, and I don't doubt some parents push their children into it, even for a few hundred dollars an hour -but I guess the children get to keep the clothes they are modeling.

Children doing adult things has long been a difficult issue, whether it is children in movies, beauty pageants, or the creepy career of Michael Jackson. Dragging the trans issue into this doesn't benefit anyone, if anything, it is an invitation to the very kind of ridicule and abuse one would hope parents want to avoid.

[GroobySteven]

....it is an invitation to the very kind of ridicule and abuse one would hope parents want to avoid.

Agree with your whole post. As to the above, I'd clarify the same ridicule and abuse that parents who put their kids into beauty pageants should receive. Not based on her gender.

Actually it's turned my stomach just gathering these pics.

[Nikka]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 

3 posts in 13 years people are famous these days

[MrFanti]

Agree with your whole post. As to the above, I'd clarify the same ridicule and abuse that parents who put their kids into beauty pageants should receive. Not based on her gender.

Actually it's turned my stomach just gathering these pics.

Yes and unfortunately, there are some parents that "live through their children" regardless of the arena/forum....

[diddyboponTOP]

Because you just want to wank off over adult performers? Disgusting. This girl knows her own mind and is validating herself. Trans people are NOT fetishes. They’re valid. Chasers like you make me sick. 😡😡😡

I'm not a chaser I have had more T girls fight over Me then a anyone I was chased lol 2 anything involving children is disgusting especially when it comes to modeling and letting kids that young transition.... Remember that one young girl about ten years ago that came out as a kid,? She became obese and extremely mentally ill for many years , he parents.

[mildcigar_2001]

Take a glance at the parents of the "trans child." (Google for newspaper articles on the child). They are not Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver by a long shot.

I think there is a clue there why the kid was identified as trans at age 4, and is now doing some modeling. My suspicion would be that there may be some sort of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy activity going on here.

I think when the parents start to be advocates for this sort of behavior by the child it becomes problematic (having a child start transitioning at age four is ridiculous). Because it gives the parents attention they are encouraging a set of behaviors on a kid.

It is a good bet (whether the kid is actually trans or not) they will be all kinds of screwed up later in life.

Lets not pretend that minors are mature enough to making these kinds of decisions.

[diddyboponTOP]

Take a glance at the parents of the "trans child." (Google for newspaper articles on the child). They are not Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver by a long shot.

I think there is a clue there why the kid was identified as trans at age 4, and is now doing some modeling. My suspicion would be that there may be some sort of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy activity going on here.

I think when the parents start to be advocates for this sort of behavior by the child it becomes problematic (having a child start transitioning at age four is ridiculous). Because it gives the parents attention they are encouraging a set of behaviors on a kid.

It is a good bet (whether the kid is actually trans or not) they will be all kinds of screwed up later in life.

Lets not pretend that minors are mature enough to making these kinds of decisions.

I agree, Angelina Jolie tried so hard to make her Eldest daughter or Natural daughter with Brad into a Boy finally she hit an age where she wanted to look like the girl she is God knows how damaged she is from her mom's nonsense since she was too young to talk Angie was like oh she likes boys clothes! Fuck Angie for that. I have been with many T girls in my day, not one would chose this life again, they would be born the sex they changed into it's very fucking hard constant heckeling one ex didn't speak to her parents for 22 years cause she was disowned etc

[Luke Warm]

Just to be clear, young kids are not getting surgery and they are not taking HRT or medication. It's not the higher stakes that teenagers and young adults face.

What ever happened to allowing the parents to be the ones who guide their children? I guess that only holds true up to a certain point (when the parents do something that you personally disagree with). Then parental rights fly out the window.

The Honey Boo Boo stuff (pre-teens doing sexy modeling) is horrifying, no matter what the gender is.

[Castor_Troy05]

I'm not a chaser I have had more T girls fight over Me then a anyone I was chased lol 2 anything involving children is disgusting especially when it comes to modeling and letting kids that young transition.... Remember that one young girl about ten years ago that came out as a kid,? She became obese and extremely mentally ill for many years , he parents.
You’re the most chasery chaser on this board and a delusional fantasist at that. You’ve no respect for these women other than how many you’ve had sex with, you’re odious. Are you Greg with the stupid arms?

[pmloik]

[...] I have been with many T girls in my day, not one would chose this life again, they would be born the sex they changed into it's very fucking hard constant heckeling one ex didn't speak to her parents for 22 years cause she was disowned etc

Can you clarify this ? In particular the part in bold, please ? English isn't my native language, and I'm really not understanding that part, sorry.

That said, I didn't know Angelina Jolie tried to push that sort of behavior on a child. That sounds crazy. Even if young kids aren't getting surgery or HRT, I have the feeling that transgender issues are the kind of topic that should not be involved with kids. At the *very* least not in a way that involves the kid directly. Given how society is evolving, maybe at some point education on this topic is suitable, though.

[GroobySteven]

Can you clarify this ? In particular the part in bold, please ? English isn't my native language, and I'm really not understanding that part, sorry.

That said, I didn't know Angelina Jolie tried to push that sort of behavior on a child. That sounds crazy. Even if young kids aren't getting surgery or HRT, I have the feeling that transgender issues are the kind of topic that should not be involved with kids. At the *very* least not in a way that involves the kid directly. Given how society is evolving, maybe at some point education on this topic is suitable, though.

He means that nobody would choose to be trans. That it's a difficult life transitioned, that many trans people are alientated from their families, find it difficult to get jobs and fit into a society that ostracises them. While this isn't every trans persons experience, it is for many.

[Imatwork]

Myself and my Wife have a Half English Half South American Daughter who has been Dancing Salsa for the last 10 years since she was three.Now she is a Senior Dancer at 13 and wears the appropriate Dress and make to perform which she has done four times at the World Salsa Congress. We see this as part of her Culture and is Strictly Regulated and is nothing like the horrific Tiny Tots Pagaent .That's my view .

[GroobySteven]

Myself and my Wife have a Half English Half South American Daughter who has been Dancing Salsa for the last 10 years since she was three.Now she is a Senior Dancer at 13 and wears the appropriate Dress and make to perform which she has done four times at the World Salsa Congress. We see this as part of her Culture and is Strictly Regulated and is nothing like the horrific Tiny Tots Pagaent .That's my view .

What is your criteria on using uppercase letters on the start of some words, and not on others?

[diddyboponTOP]

You’re the most chasery chaser on this board and a delusional fantasist at that. You’ve no respect for these women other than how many you’ve had sex with, you’re odious. Are you Greg with the stupid arms?

Delusional huh? Everything I ever said is true and I have plenty of proof to prove It, plus every know me. A chaser is a Man who pays for sex and only uses T girls for sex like most of y'all do. You know me or nothing about me which makes you a moron

[diddyboponTOP]

You’re the most chasery chaser on this board and a delusional fantasist at that. You’ve no respect for these women other than how many you’ve had sex with, you’re odious. Are you Greg with the stupid arms?
No I'm not Greg, and I had a body like a Greek god, now I have a bit of a pot belly. If you wanna be like me you never could, I'm a living legend and I ahve dated been engaged to T girls etc girls you have only jerked off to
Ask Allanah or Carmen about Anthony from NYC and how loved I was in my 20s and 30s but the entire community.

[GroobySteven]

No I'm not Greg, and I had a body like a Greek god, now I have a bit of a pot belly. If you wanna be like me you never could, I'm a living legend and I ahve dated been engaged to T girls etc girls you have only jerked off to
Ask Allanah or Carmen about Anthony from NYC and how loved I was in my 20s and 30s but the entire community.

You know what. We get it. You used to be good looking, and get loads of action. I was never that good looking, but have killer dimples and a great self-deprecating sense of humour (something I doubt you could even fathom) and I got loads of action.
That's all you keep talking about. On another thread, you make statements about your mental health and issues - perhaps you need to reflect a little more on yourself, and that the past was the past - and move on. Because it's getting really, really boring to us, to hear about how great your body was, how popular you were (yawn), and you appear to not haven ever gotten over that, otherwise why constantly whitter on about it.

Move on. Add something of worth to the threads. Look forward to the past. Talk and reminisce about the past, but if I have to hear once more about how you used to be good looking, have a great body, and get laid with stars I'm going to vomit. It's not unique to you man. At 51, looking back at how great my 20s and 30s were with the girls, but I've moved on and love who I am now, and tomorrow, not just yesterday.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I'm not with with parents pushing their kids to do this pagent type shit, period. A child has no business sashaying their lil self down a damn runway like that.

It's getting harder to defend a lot of this progressive shit

[natina]

I don't see this kid as being Sexualized and the child has Not even reached puberty age yet but I think I see two gay male parents and I am concerned about what is actually going on here .
I don't know the full story. It seems like the kid is happy.
I just hope nothing is pushed on this kid.

Note:
Puberty blockers have been known to cause Osteoporosis

[Trapt53]

Just so I can understand your perspective a bit more, do you think one can be mature enough to make a personal gender decision at age 10?

At that age, it's a social transition (name and clothing). No one is getting any surgery at that age. It's not quite the same thing, I knew in pre-school that I liked playing doctor with girls and had no interest in playing doctor with other boys. I may not have had the words for it, but these things can be realized at an early age.

[Trapt53]

Really?
I've no problem with someone transitioning when they feel it's right - but then to use her as catwalk model is sexualising and fetishing her, the same as putting any 10 year old in that position. Her being trans isn't relevant. At least in porn, we're up front about what we do and present legally aged people who are old enough to consent for themselves to be sexualised.

It seems like you are on the wrong forum. Take your outrage elsewhere.

Thanks for your second post in 13 years.

From the little shown in the video, I didn't see anything sexual about it. Of course, that second outfit looked like a Halloween costume. This seems miles away from the Toddlers and Tiaras style pageants.

[diddyboponTOP]

At that age, it's a social transition (name and clothing). No one is getting any surgery at that age. It's not quite the same thing, I knew in pre-school that I liked playing doctor with girls and had no interest in playing doctor with other boys. I may not have had the words for it, but these things can be realized at an early age.

Realized? Yes but acted upon definitely not she should have been taken from her parents she ended up morbidly obese for many years which is very unhealthy also a sign of very deep depression. A child has no business making long term medical decisions. As adults we do even 18 even though that's still very young we are very different at 35 then at 18.

[Stavros]

At that age, it's a social transition (name and clothing). No one is getting any surgery at that age. It's not quite the same thing, I knew in pre-school that I liked playing doctor with girls and had no interest in playing doctor with other boys. I may not have had the words for it, but these things can be realized at an early age.

And the Emotional/Psychological aspect? With regard to family, friends, neighbours and at school -I suggest it is more than just a 'social transition' and maybe you intended to include the psychological without saying so.