Germany Sees Tidal Shift in Sentiment Toward Atomic Energy

[MrFanti]

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-sees-tidal-shift-in-sentiment-toward-atomic-energy-a-05f47c3c-d20e-44dc-bd6d-1e1dbfb7f0cd

[MrFanti]

Germany's love-hate relationship with nuclear power
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-love-hate-relationship-with-nuclear-power/a-62712589

[sidney111]

It must be about 8 years ago, I was working in a customer’s house and he’d just retired from being a manager at a power generating company, it was around that time that England was building huge wind turbines you’d see them at motorway junctions, and he was telling me that was being done for political reasons not for practical ones, he said to power the country without using gas and coal the only option was nuclear.

[MrFanti]

It must be about 8 years ago, I was working in a customer’s house and he’d just retired from being a manager at a power generating company, it was around that time that England was building huge wind turbines you’d see them at motorway junctions, and he was telling me that was being done for political reasons not for practical ones, he said to power the country without using gas and coal the only option was nuclear.
Your friend could very well be correct!
New nuclear power plants in the UK from Sizewell C to Hinkley Point C
https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/new-nuclear-power-plants-uk/

[Stavros]

Your friend could very well be correct!
New nuclear power plants in the UK from Sizewell C to Hinkley Point C
https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/new-nuclear-power-plants-uk/

The link reveals one of the issues that has not been aired in any of the UK's non-debates on nuclear energy, namely why most of the existing or proposed plants are to built by anyone but the British, ie EDF (French), CGN (China) and Hitachi (Japanese). Have we reached a point in 2022 when the British can't build a nuclear power plant but must rely on 'foreigners' to do it? Were we not supposed to be revitalizing Sovereignty and Independence when we left the European Union? And how is the reliance on China going to last if the British Government -currently 'on holiday'- is led by Ms Crackers? And if the Chinese lose their contracts, who is going to step in to replace them?

So yes, I would welcome a debate on nuclear energy, if anyone has the balls to arrange it.

As for wind power, the dividends are clear. Most people who are opposed just don't like 'em, as if that was the basis of rational policy. And for the record, the UK's energy profile cannot be compared to Germany's.

Offshore wind power now so cheap it could pay money back to consumers | Imperial News | Imperial College London (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/200353/offshore-wind-power-cheap-could-money/)

[sidney111]

Can’t seem to add a YouTube link , but the video Michael Moore planet of the humans full documentary, is well worth watching

[sidney111]

I forgot to say the ex manager also said since privatisation there’d been zero investment in the network, the only work done was the barest minimum to keep it going.

[Stavros]

Can’t seem to add a YouTube link , but the video Michael Moore planet of the humans full documentary, is well worth watching

There was a report that YouTube had removed the film, but it is available in the side-bar to this one, which debunks the verifiable and outdated (sometimes by 20 years) rubbish in the film.

Planet of the Humans: DEBUNKED | In Depth - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDqZVjAiAvs)

[Stavros]

I forgot to say the ex manager also said since privatisation there’d been zero investment in the network, the only work done was the barest minimum to keep it going.

Zero investment sums up one of the key causes of economic decline in the UK, made worse by the insane folly of Brexit. Here is Will Hutton in yesterday's Observer making a negative assessment of Ms Crackers corporation tax waffle-

"Here, too, evidence is not allowed a look-in. Successive Tory chancellors – quasi-socialists in the absurd Truss story – have cut the UK corporation tax rate from 26% in 2010 to 19% today. Private business investment has remained stubbornly at the bottom of the G7. The key propellant of investment is not the corporation tax rate but the confidence that any investment will pay back, and in strategy-free Britain in the grip of rightwing ideology, cut off from its major market, there is little or no long-term confidence. Truss will forgo much needed tax revenue – and achieve nothing."
Liz Truss’s economic plan is ruinous nonsense with no reference to reality | Will Hutton | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/14/liz-truss-economic-plan-ruinous-nonsense-no-reference-to-reality)

Yes, we need a grown-up debate about energy, be it renewables or nuclear, but to do that we also need adults in the room, and right now they are either off on their holidays, or poncing around Britain claiming to have the solutions - to the problems they created these last 12 years.