Monkeypox and Sexual Transmission

[Stavros]

Please take care if you are coming into close contact with another person. Although there are various modes of transmission, and Monkeypox cases, though rising in the UK, are usually rare, sexual contact can be a means of transmission, thus

"Although some of the cases have been seen in gay and bisexual men, anyone who comes into close contact with someone who has monkeypox could potentially get the virus.The UK Health Security Agency has said "a notable proportion" of the recent cases in the UK and Europe have been found in gay and bisexual men "so we are particularly encouraging them to be alert to the symptoms and seek help if concerned"
What is monkeypox and how do you catch it? - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45665821)

Signs and Symptoms | Monkeypox | Poxvirus | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/symptoms.html)

Monkeypox (who.int) (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox)





Other sources of information available

[mildcigar_2001]

This definitely is a bad time to be in the sex for pay game.

[Nikka]

Oh no....

[Stavros]

Latest news from the UK-

"England (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/england)’s monkeypox (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/monkeypox) outbreak is beginning to spread beyond London (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/london) with a spike in cases outside the main epicentre, health officials have warned.The Terrence Higgins Trust, which helped coordinate the national response to the viral infection, said “time is slipping away quite quickly” to limit the outbreak to the capital, with concerning rises reported in Manchester (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/manchester) and Brighton.

A total of 2,759 infections have been detected in the UK, the majority of which are centred in London. However, according to the latest data, the number of cases in the southeast nearly tripled between 6 July and 1 August, rising from 91 to 233 – one of the sharpest regional jumps over this period. In the northwest, cases more than doubled from 71 to 144."
‘Time is slipping away’: Battle to limit monkeypox outbreak as cases rise outside London | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/monkeypox-outbreak-symptoms-london-manchester-brighton-b2138027.html)

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[diddyboponTOP]

This is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. The libs won't stop. They ruined the world with this Corona nonsense now this. Just like Corona I won't be worried about MP while the other joke could have been airborne this is from M on M sex or I guess male on TS sex.... I haven't had sex with a t girl in at least 5 years although I'm talking to one now

[Stavros]

This is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. The libs won't stop. They ruined the world with this Corona nonsense now this. Just like Corona I won't be worried about MP while the other joke could have been airborne this is from M on M sex or I guess male on TS sex.... I haven't had sex with a t girl in at least 5 years although I'm talking to one now

What do 'the Libs' have to do with a public health threat? Covid and its variants are not a joke, neither is Monkey Pox, and it's not just about you, but those people who are having sexual intercourse. Is it not better to be safe than sorry?

[obslam]

The worst thing you can let yourself be infected by is the negative poster who spends all his time posting how awful everything is in his life, and none of it his fault.

[blackchubby38]

I posted this in another thread about Monkey Pox:

WHO chief advises reducing sex partners to avoid monkeypox

http://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/chief-advises-reducing-sex-partners-avoid-monkeypox-rcna40300


NYC Health Dept reassigns senior epidemiologist who publicly disagreed with city’s Monkey Pox messaging

gothamist.com/news/nyc-health-dept-reassigns-senior-epidemiologist-who-publicly-disagreed-with-citys-monkeypox-messaging

[MrFanti]

I posted this in another thread about Monkey Pox:

WHO chief advises reducing sex partners to avoid monkeypox

http://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/chief-advises-reducing-sex-partners-avoid-monkeypox-rcna40300


NYC Health Dept reassigns senior epidemiologist who publicly disagreed with city’s Monkey Pox messaging

gothamist.com/news/nyc-health-dept-reassigns-senior-epidemiologist-who-publicly-disagreed-with-citys-monkeypox-messaging
Sure is interesting watching the science and medical communities disagree!

[Stavros]

I posted this in another thread about Monkey Pox:

WHO chief advises reducing sex partners to avoid monkeypox

http://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/chief-advises-reducing-sex-partners-avoid-monkeypox-rcna40300


NYC Health Dept reassigns senior epidemiologist who publicly disagreed with city’s Monkey Pox messaging

gothamist.com/news/nyc-health-dept-reassigns-senior-epidemiologist-who-publicly-disagreed-with-citys-monkeypox-messaging (http://gothamist.com/news/nyc-health-dept-reassigns-senior-epidemiologist-who-publicly-disagreed-with-citys-monkeypox-messaging)

I have read your links, it is irritating when someone creates a thread on a topic that already exists, but that is just how it goes sometimes. As for the public health announcements, I don't understand how hard it is to make a clear statement that contains facts without being prejudicial to identifiable social groups. We seem to live in an age when civil servants are constantly trying to second guess their own statements in case someone is offended. It can be done without controversy. Or maybe the people employed are not up to it.

[diddyboponTOP]

What do 'the Libs' have to do with a public health threat? Covid and its variants are not a joke, neither is Monkey Pox, and it's not just about you, but those people who are having sexual intercourse. Is it not better to be safe than sorry?

They like spreading propaganda. The Corona Virus is still lingering due to their nonsense, we are in a recession and now they come up with this? I know this was man made it's not a coincidence. Im not in anyway saying other people should not take care and be careful that is not for me to say nor would I want anyone to do as I do but far as I'm concerned I'm loving like this is all a joke!

[filghy2]

For those who exist in the real world, this is a good article about how the US has stuffed up the response to this virus. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23282687/monkeypox-centers-for-disease-control-covid-world-health-organization-lgbtq

As it says, monkeypox has been around for 50 years in Africa and should have been fairly easy to control, given it's not very contagious and there's an effective vaccine. The problem has been a lack of clear messaging, apparently due to sensitivities about targetting the gay community. Far from being alarmist, the health authorties seem to have been too cautious about communicating to those most at risk.

[MrFanti]

The problem has been a lack of clear messaging, apparently due to sensitivities about targetting the gay community.
Where did the sensitivities come from? Within the Gay community or external?

[blackchubby38]

Lets look at the timeline of Monkeypox in the United States:

19 monkeypox cases identified in U.S.: What we know about the patients

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/us-monkeypox-cases-identified-rcna30388

This is an article from May 26th that talks about the first case that was reported on May 18th.

If you scroll down to this part of the article, this sounds like a warning to gay and bisexual men. But at the same time, it really isn't:

"Most of the cases are so far are among men who have sex with men, though Walensky emphasized that "the risk of exposure is not limited to any one particular group."

"Other communities outside of the LGBTQ community also need to remain vigilant. The transmission can happen whether you are in that community or not in that community," said Dr. Raj Panjabi, senior director for global health security and biodefense at the White House National Security Council."


Now here is an article from July 27th about then current state of the outbreak:

Key Questions About the Current U.S. Monkeypox Outbreak

https://www.kff.org/other/issue-brief/key-questions-about-the-current-u-s-monkeypox-outbreak/

Scroll down to this part of the article:

"Almost all reported cases in the current U.S. outbreak (99% as of June 28, 2022) have been among gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men, who are considered most at risk at this time. However, monkeypox can be a risk to anyone, regardless of sexual orientation or sex/gender of sexual partners, and in the current outbreak, cases have been identified among transgender men and cisgender women. A few recent cases among children have also been identified."

The state with the most confirmed cases is New York, followed by California, and then Illinois. With Texas and Florida rounding out the top 5.

We all know what happened in the time between these two articles. Pride Month.

Because of the history of the AIDS epidemic and the stigma that came with it, I believe there was an effort by public health officials and elected leaders to downplay the sexual transmission aspect of Monkey Pox as not to appear to single out the gay and bisexual community. Especially during Pride Month. When that's the exact time the message from the World Health Organization about reducing sexual partners needed to be issued. But people were more concerned with the name of Monkey Pox being changed during that month because it was considered offensive.

For the better part of 2 years, all we heard from public health officials was about curtailing aspects of our behavior in order to prevent the spread of Covid 19. All we heard from most of politicians in the three states with the most cases of Monkey Pox was "Wear the damn mask! and "Get the vacccine/booster or else! This was done without worrying about offending people's sensibilities. Now wasn't the time to get politically correct when issuing public health guidelines.

[Stavros]

I offer this link as an addition to Blackchubby's post above, a plea to change the name of the disease. When it is not being linked to gay men, it is being 'subconsciously' linked to Africa. It could have been called Squirrel Disease. But it wasn't.

What’s in a name? Why giving monkeypox a new one is a good idea | Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance (https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/whats-name-why-giving-monkeypox-new-one-good-idea?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImsTJ9NO2-QIVR-xRCh1tJQszEAAYASAAEgJWHvD_BwE)

[MrFanti]

I offer this link as an addition to Blackchubby's post above, a plea to change the name of the disease. When it is not being linked to gay men, it is being 'subconsciously' linked to Africa. It could have been called Squirrel Disease. But it wasn't.

What’s in a name? Why giving monkeypox a new one is a good idea | Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance (https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/whats-name-why-giving-monkeypox-new-one-good-idea?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImsTJ9NO2-QIVR-xRCh1tJQszEAAYASAAEgJWHvD_BwE)
What about all the other *POX named after animals?

[Stavros]

What about all the other *POX named after animals?

I am confident you will follow up your post with a list, to help us make a judgment.

Are you saying you do, or you do not think 'Monkeypox' should be given a new name?

[diddyboponTOP]

I offer this link as an addition to Blackchubby's post above, a plea to change the name of the disease. When it is not being linked to gay men, it is being 'subconsciously' linked to Africa. It could have been called Squirrel Disease. But it wasn't.

What’s in a name? Why giving monkeypox a new one is a good idea | Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance (https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/whats-name-why-giving-monkeypox-new-one-good-idea?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImsTJ9NO2-QIVR-xRCh1tJQszEAAYASAAEgJWHvD_BwE)

I said something similar on Twitter and since I'm a Trump Maga BUT a Hip Hop head and famed former Graffiti writer from Queens NYC with a lot of rappers like Treach from naughty etc following me back due to how long I been in the rap world I had a lot of assholes calling me a racist when I said some people will be offended and I didn't mean it like that at all obviously. If I did people would know I have no issue mincing words, I prefer to chill online in person I can reach out and touch someone online we can't.

[rodinuk]

What about all the other *POX named after animals?

The small species is extinct

[Stavros]

I said something similar on Twitter and since I'm a Trump Maga BUT


Is that a typo, and did you mean to write 'I'm a Trump maga BUTT..'- ?

[MrFanti]

I am confident you will follow up your post with a list, to help us make a judgment.

Are you saying you do, or you do not think 'Monkeypox' should be given a new name?
Go to the CDC page....you'll see (and not limited to)
-Camelpox
-Horsepox
-Raccoonpox
-Skunkpox

And some others...

[diddyboponTOP]

Is that a typo, and did you mean to write 'I'm a Trump maga BUTT..'- ?

Hahaha typo 😆 meant MAGA...BUT.... Etc. I admittedly have grammar issues, where to put periods and comma's Etc.

[Lorca81]

For those who exist in the real world, this is a good article about how the US has stuffed up the response to this virus. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23282687/monkeypox-centers-for-disease-control-covid-world-health-organization-lgbtq

As it says, monkeypox has been around for 50 years in Africa and should have been fairly easy to control, given it's not very contagious and there's an effective vaccine. The problem has been a lack of clear messaging, apparently due to sensitivities about targetting the gay community. Far from being alarmist, the health authorties seem to have been too cautious about communicating to those most at risk.

I agree that the messaging hasn’t been effective and health officials have been too cautious in their warnings. For example, they aren’t saying that the current PCR test requires swabbing an active lesion, but those don’t develop for about two to three weeks following exposure, so someone who’s been infected can unknowingly pass MPX along for several weeks. They also aren’t consistently telling people that condoms don’t effectively protect you from MPX exposure [compared: to how well they protect against conventional STIs]