Thoughts on dating someone in the adult business?

[Lorca81]

So, the reality is a disproportionate number of trans women do sex work of some kind (i.e., dancing, modeling, camming, hardcore content, escorting, etc.). What are your feelings about dating someone who's in the business? Would you or wouldn't you, and why or why not?

I would, have, and currently do. This includes a GF who modeled for Grooby, did a a couple hardcore scenes, and escorted fulltime; a GF who danced at Divas SF for years; my ex-wife, who had a big internet presence circa 2000-2005, but never did hardcore; and, my current GF/FWB, who used to be a fulltime escort, but now only sees client a few times per month.

For my part, I am not a jealous person, so their work never bothered/bothers me from that standpoint, because it was/is just a job. (Though, obviously, escorting is dangerous, so I did/do worry their safety.)

[mildcigar_2001]

Not to be mean, but I think I'd be worried about what a partner in the sex business might bring home (HPV, HIV, Genital Warts, Syphilis, etc.).

It doesn't make them not a nice person, but it is an added risk.

I realize that people aren't dying like flies from HIV anymore, but other venereal diseases aren't a walk in the park either.

[Fitzcarraldo]

If you're OK with your significant other fucking people constantly for pay, go for it. I suppose there are layers of fidelity and intimacy, but have fun trying to figure out what really matters.

[Stavros]

So, the reality is a disproportionate number of trans women do sex work of some kind (i.e., dancing, modeling, camming, hardcore content, escorting, etc.).



This is the kind of statement that needs statistical evidence to be true. I don't think it is true, and it reinforces stereotypes, you might as well have added 'and do drugs and alcohol to excess'. All of the above may be true of some, but is it in fact true, and true that it is a 'disproportionate number' who are doing such things?

[GroobySteven]

This is the kind of statement that needs statistical evidence to be true. I don't think it is true, and it reinforces stereotypes, you might as well have added 'and do drugs and alcohol to excess'. All of the above may be true of some, but is it in fact true, and true that it is a 'disproportionate number' who are doing such things?

Lorca is absolutely correct in his statement, if it means a disproportionate number of trans women do some form of sex work, compared to cis-women.

[GroobySteven]

Having dated girls who've worked in the industry, I find it very difficult. I know that may come as surprising for someone who has spent his life working in the adult industry, but my personal makeup is one which would be jealous or irritated with my partner being with other people, for a paid gig. If it was just solo work, dancing, etc. that's fine - but hardcore porn content or escorting I'd find too difficult.

[GroobySteven]

Not to be mean, but I think I'd be worried about what a partner in the sex business might bring home (HPV, HIV, Genital Warts, Syphilis, etc.).

It doesn't make them not a nice person, but it is an added risk.

I realize that people aren't dying like flies from HIV anymore, but other venereal diseases aren't a walk in the park either.

That's pretty naïve to be frank, but unfortunately what a lot of people believe. Sex workers are more likely to get regular tests (certainly porn performers are tested every 2 weeks) and more aware on sexually transmitted diseases. After all, it's their livelihood that can be affected if they're out of action. In recent memory, all the performers on our side of the business have became infected from sex with civilians in a non-business sexual encounter. I see more risk by having unprotected sex from someone you meet on a night out, than with a professional sex worker.

[Lorca81]

Lorca is absolutely correct in his statement, if it means a disproportionate number of trans women do some form of sex work, compared to cis-women.

Disproportionate, as compared to cis, women is precisely what I meant, Steven. There is tons of statistical data from sociological studies evidencing this too ...


Having dated girls who've worked in the industry, I find it very difficult. I know that may come as surprising for someone who has spent his life working in the adult industry, but my personal makeup is one which would be jealous or irritated with my partner being with other people, for a paid gig. If it was just solo work, dancing, etc. that's fine - but hardcore porn content or escorting I'd find too difficult.

That does come as a bit of a surprise, but I get it. For my part, I absolutely hated going to Divas with my GF who danced there. Whether she was working or we just dropped by to see her friends, her interacting with regulars was always a big part of any night there. It didn't make me jealous, since I understood she relied on tips from regulars, but I did always feel like a third wheel.


That's pretty naïve to be frank, but unfortunately what a lot of people believe. Sex workers are more likely to get regular tests (certainly porn performers are tested every 2 weeks) and more aware on sexually transmitted diseases. After all, it's their livelihood that can be affected if they're out of action. In recent memory, all the performers on our side of the business have became infected from sex with civilians in a non-business sexual encounter. I see more risk by having unprotected sex from someone you meet on a night out, than with a professional sex worker.

I agree wholeheartedly. In my experience, people engaged in sex work are usually very rigorous in terms of condom use, regular testing, and taking PrEP. etc.

[Lorca81]

This is the kind of statement that needs statistical evidence to be true. I don't think it is true, and it reinforces stereotypes, you might as well have added 'and do drugs and alcohol to excess'. All of the above may be true of some, but is it in fact true, and true that it is a 'disproportionate number' who are doing such things?

Literally the first result I found on Google: https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/Meaningful%20Work-Full%20Report_FINAL_3.pdf

[iHeart_PONG]

I would echo some of the statements above in that I am a very jealous and possessive person and would never be able to be with someone who was even dating someone else let alone a paid sex worker. Girls who are polyamorous are therefore lumped into the same category as girls who are escorts or who do hardcore in my book. Girls who just do solo stuff are fine with me but...

The second issue I have with dating a girl in the sex industry is one of attitude and personality. I don't think I would get along with many modern sex workers because based on the persona they present on social media, most do not appear to have a personality that would attract me as I like demure, low-maintenance and submissive girls that are not consumed with their looks. If she is the type of girl that spends $100K a year on clothes and makeup or the type to take 50 photos just to get the perfect picture to flex on instagram rather than savoring the actual moment they are experiencing, it doesn't matter how hot you look or how much your porn may turn me on, I'm just not going to like you as a person.

At the end of the day, I'm 43 and I am not attracting a hot transgirl sex worker who is in her 20s unless they are looking for a daddy-type to take care of them which would also turn me off. Taken together, these weird hangups I have are not a concern but I thought I would share.

[Stavros]

Literally the first result I found on Google: <a href="https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/Meaningful%20Work-Full%20Report_FINAL_3.pdf" target="_blank">https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/Meaningful%20Work-Full%20Report_FINAL_3.pdf</a><br>
<br>A survey of 694 respondents, of whom 10.8% said they had done sex work -what about the other 80.2%? <br><br>The statistical problem lies in the lack of comprehensive and accurate data, just in the US. &nbsp; Moreover, to calculate the difference you would need complemetary data on 'cis-women' and sex work.&nbsp; I think the problem lies with the assumptions, because there are a worrying number of transgendered Americans -particularly in the under-25 age group- who have multiple problems associated with parental rejection, poor education, homelessness, alcohol and drug abuse, and thus sex work which I suspect is probably common, even if ony casual, with their cis-female cohorts, but to prove it you need data you don't have. I would bet that the proportion of transgendered Americans who do sex work declines with age, so that someone who decides to transition in their 40s is less likely to engage in sex work than someone in their teens or twenties.<br><br>&nbsp;

[diddyboponTOP]

When I was younger I dated several T girls in the xxx business who escorted on the side, I would still do my thing so it didn't matter but once I for serious about one and was ready to break up with her, very nicely I said I have to leave because every time you mention work I'm getting sick to my stomach because Im in love with you I never would have asked her to leave the business because that's how I met her and the feelings just happened. She started crying telling me I was breaking her heart etc long story short two weeks ago she called me told me she was leaving both businesses, she started her make up business back up and had a nice amount in the bank from a family members life insurance after they passed so the next few years we were together day in and day out, eventually I fucked up by cheating three times with three different people and she knew them all, till this day I regret it she is the only person aside from my parents that ever truly loved Me and I loved her too but thought with my dick unfortunately. Anyway she never went back into the business, she had wanted
Out for a while but thought she would miss the fans once she left she never went back and is now wealthy from smart investments, married and living in another Country doing very well.
I'll love her forever, I ruined it.

[Castor_Troy05]

So she left the business, had a fling with you, which you ruined by being a moron, and she left the country, got married and wealthy, all in two weeks??

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Nope

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Not dating someone who is putting her business out there like that. I don't even want a girl who is active on every single social media platform. Shit screams attention seeker and the need for validation from strangers. The girl posting every single intimate detail about her life, running to Twitter before anything else when something happens ain't for me. I don't respect that. I'm the total opposite. I pretty much quit messing with social media like that. And theres just something about constantly asking for tips, cash apps, gifts and even GoFundMes that really doesnt sit well with me. I hate having to be provided stuff I should save up for and buy for myself. I dont even like celebrating birthdays or Christmas.

The only exception would be if it was a one off thing and she never did it again

With a lot of people whose lives revolves around people looking at them, a big ego is almost guaranteed. A lot of sex workers,(well girls who require attention in general), including broke ones tend to be materialistic and respect the wallet and the status. Many regular careers with average incomes are often shamed while wanting sex work to be seen as real work. It is, but everyone isn't trying tho take that seriously

[SanDiegoPervySage]

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<br>A survey of 694 respondents, of whom 10.8% said they had done sex work -what about the other 80.2%? <br><br>The statistical problem lies in the lack of comprehensive and accurate data, just in the US. Moreover, to calculate the difference you would need complemetary data on 'cis-women' and sex work. I think the problem lies with the assumptions, because there are a worrying number of transgendered Americans -particularly in the under-25 age group- who have multiple problems associated with parental rejection, poor education, homelessness, alcohol and drug abuse, and thus sex work which I suspect is probably common, even if ony casual, with their cis-female cohorts, but to prove it you need data you don't have. I would bet that the proportion of transgendered Americans who do sex work declines with age, so that someone who decides to transition in their 40s is less likely to engage in sex work than someone in their teens or twenties.<br><br>

The statistics afte just as valid as the fact that trans people have less access to health and social services than cis women or that sex workers who are victims of crimes are more likely to be ignored or receive less Attention from law enforcement and the media.

[diddyboponTOP]

So she left the business, had a fling with you, which you ruined by being a moron, and she left the country, got married and wealthy, all in two weeks??

A few years. We were together, and FF 18 years she's married and living in another country, and If you would have been in my shoes you wouldnt dare call me a moron all the girls you jerk off too I had leaving the business for and going nuts over Me.... I admitting I messed up with her though. I don't know what you read but how was a several year relationship a fling? And two who ever mentioned two weeks lol you guys never if go out in public with these girls who they wouldn't be caught dead with you period.

[diddyboponTOP]

Not dating someone who is putting her business out there like that. I don't even want a girl who is active on every single social media platform. Shit screams attention seeker and the need for validation from strangers. The girl posting every single intimate detail about her life, running to Twitter before anything else when something happens ain't for me. I don't respect that. I'm the total opposite. I pretty much quit messing with social media like that. And theres just something about constantly asking for tips, cash apps, gifts and even GoFundMes that really doesnt sit well with me. I hate having to be provided stuff I should save up for and buy for myself. I dont even like celebrating birthdays or Christmas.

The only exception would be if it was a one off thing and she never did it again

With a lot of people whose lives revolves around people looking at them, a big ego is almost guaranteed. A lot of sex workers,(well girls who require attention in general), including broke ones tend to be materialistic and respect the wallet and the status. Many regular careers with average incomes are often shamed while wanting sex work to be seen as real work. It is, but everyone isn't trying tho take that seriously

Yeah that's annoying, most of them can't get a guy to hold their hand on the street or take them to dinner that's why they all gold dig which is like publicly begging all those amazon links and only fans etc may as well be a stripper and have guys throw dollar bills them

[Fitzcarraldo]

A few years. We were together, and FF 18 years she's married and living in another country, and If you would have been in my shoes you wouldnt dare call me a moron all the girls you jerk off too I had leaving the business for and going nuts over Me.... I admitting I messed up with her though. I don't know what you read but how was a several year relationship a fling? And two who ever mentioned two weeks lol you guys never if go out in public with these girls who they wouldn't be caught dead with you period.

He got the "two weeks" part from your ramble:

She started crying telling me I was breaking her heart etc long story short two weeks ago she called me told me she was leaving both businesses, she started her make up business back up and had a nice amount in the bank from a family members life insurance after they passed so the next few years we were together day in and day out, eventually I fucked up by cheating three times with three different people and she knew them all, till this day I regret it she is the only person aside from my parents that ever truly loved Me and I loved her too but thought with my dick unfortunately.

[diddyboponTOP]

Oh lol I meant two weeks later, if you read the post you would see it was over a few years span my bad there

[Lorca81]

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<br>A survey of 694 respondents, of whom 10.8% said they had done sex work -what about the other 80.2%? <br><br>The statistical problem lies in the lack of comprehensive and accurate data, just in the US. Moreover, to calculate the difference you would need complemetary data on 'cis-women' and sex work. I think the problem lies with the assumptions, because there are a worrying number of transgendered Americans -particularly in the under-25 age group- who have multiple problems associated with parental rejection, poor education, homelessness, alcohol and drug abuse, and thus sex work which I suspect is probably common, even if ony casual, with their cis-female cohorts, but to prove it you need data you don't have. I would bet that the proportion of transgendered Americans who do sex work declines with age, so that someone who decides to transition in their 40s is less likely to engage in sex work than someone in their teens or twenties.<br><br>

Sure, it's a small study. But other sociological surveys have similar findings. Basically every study I've seen found that between that 10% and 15% of trans women have, at some point, engaged in sex work. For comparison, similar studies of cis women find rates of between 2% and 3%. Hence, my use of the word "disproportionate."

To be clear--in case it isn't obvious from my OP--I'm not making any judgments about this reality, because I don't view sex work as a bad thing, per se. Afterall, who am I to judge when someone faces all the challenges you mentioned?

[Lorca81]

I would echo some of the statements above in that I am a very jealous and possessive person and would never be able to be with someone who was even dating someone else let alone a paid sex worker. Girls who are polyamorous are therefore lumped into the same category as girls who are escorts or who do hardcore in my book. Girls who just do solo stuff are fine with me but...

It sounds like your partner being physically intimate with someone else is a deal breaker. What about friendly, flirty or paying attention to someone else?


...The second issue I have with dating a girl in the sex industry is one of attitude and personality. I don't think I would get along with many modern sex workers because based on the persona they present on social media, most do not appear to have a personality that would attract me as I like demure, low-maintenance and submissive girls that are not consumed with their looks. If she is the type of girl that spends $100K a year on clothes and makeup or the type to take 50 photos just to get the perfect picture to flex on instagram rather than savoring the actual moment they are experiencing, it doesn't matter how hot you look or how much your porn may turn me on, I'm just not going to like you as a person...

Well, the persona folks in the business present is often just that, a persona. For example, my ex-wife's internet persona was that of a ditzy, blonde-Barbie, sex kitten. In actual fact, she is an extremely intelligent, emotionally mature, practicable/sensible, hard-working woman. Depending on the context in which you meet someone, of course, getting past that persona can be neigh impossible...


...At the end of the day, I'm 43 and I am not attracting a hot transgirl sex worker who is in her 20s unless they are looking for a daddy-type to take care of them which would also turn me off. Taken together, these weird hangups I have are not a concern but I thought I would share.

I feel you there. Going from a hard-bodied 20-something to a dad-bodied 40-something is quite the experience. Getting old ain't for the faint-of-heart...

[diddyboponTOP]

It sounds like your partner being physically intimate with someone else is a deal breaker. What about friendly, flirty or paying attention to someone else?



Well, the persona folks in the business present is often just that, a persona. For example, my ex-wife's internet persona was that of a ditzy, blonde-Barbie, sex kitten. In actual fact, she is an extremely intelligent, emotionally mature, practicable/sensible, hard-working woman. Depending on the context in which you meet someone, of course, getting past that persona can be neigh impossible...



I feel you there. Going from a hard-bodied 20-something to a dad-bodied 40-something is quite the experience. Getting old ain't for the faint-of-heart...

I have aged very well for being 45 now BUT when I first got in this game I was in my 20s on steroids, Italian, always Tan, I'm hung I was just amazing looking and GGs TS everywhere I went were nuts for me I smashed many GG and TS xxx stars for free I'm still legendary to the older gals in NYC that remember the good ole days BUT while still attractive my teeth aren't as white, I have a flat stomach not a 6 pack I just don't work out much anymore I'm having a very very hard time striking out sometimes, I have my number to a gal at the grocery store a couple of weeks ago never got a call I'm not use to this, I'm very sucidal over it not the not getting a call but it's hit or miss now, from 16 to 36 anyone I wanted a had from Teachers, dancers xxx girls my mom's skin doctor etc, now I have basic girls turning me down sometimes I'm not lying or joking here I can't handle this life of losing my looks it's all I had

[iHeart_PONG]

It sounds like your partner being physically intimate with someone else is a deal breaker. What about friendly, flirty or paying attention to someone else?

I am not into that toxic possessiveness where flirting or having guy friends is an issue for me. A physical relationship with another guy is completely a deal breaker.


Well, the persona folks in the business present is often just that, a persona. For example, my ex-wife's internet persona was that of a ditzy, blonde-Barbie, sex kitten. In actual fact, she is an extremely intelligent, emotionally mature, practicable/sensible, hard-working woman. Depending on the context in which you meet someone, of course, getting past that persona can be neigh impossible...

I agree that girls are not always who they present to be especially when they are trying to market themselves as cock-starved nymphos on SM but at the end of the day, most hot 20-something sex workers are just going to see me as a john. If tomorrow, my wife left me and i was looking to meet a girl, my dating pool would be women closer to my age/status as a well educated, affluent suburbanite dad in his 40s. Women (whether cis- or trans) who would be attracted to me now are not presenting themselves as sex workers do. So even there obviously must be 20-something year old hotties who shoot porn or escort but are highly intelligent and really sweet and demure once you get to know them, there is just no mechanism for me to get to know them...white knight fantasies just don't come true.


I feel you there. Going from a hard-bodied 20-something to a dad-bodied 40-something is quite the experience. Getting old ain't for the faint-of-heart...

I'm 43 and I have a 5 year and 2 year old. When I drop my kids off at school, half of the moms are hot 20-somethings and I know they look at me like the odd old dude with one foot in the grave and these are not women who are necessarily looking to hook up. No matter how good I look today, I am not the man I was in my 20s nor am I going to like to do the same things. If I can't attract an established suburbanite mom in her 20s, I'm not attracting a hot sex worker in her 20s. All hot girls in their 20s want to do all the things I have already done years ago.

Simply put, I know that 99% of the girls I jerk off too are just not girls I am going to date be it age, attitude, their profession or any number of my hangups. Where I think my perspective gets complicated is if I were to contemplate dating a retired sex worker or an older girl who may be a solo performer/cam model but doesn't do hardcore. I am honestly not sure if I could then either. I don't expect a girl to be virginal because all girls end up with some sort of history but let's just say you met a girl who never worked in porn or escorted but had fucked 50 guys in her life. Would that turn you off? It would definitely turn me off whether she was paid or just liked to fuck.

In the end, I don't want to sound judgmental in that I look at girls in the sex industry negatively. On the contrary, I appreciate the fact that they choose to work in it and provide me with entertainment. I just know that my preferences don't lend well to attracting a modern transgirl especially one 20 years younger than me or one looking to get paid for what they look like.

[scroller]

Sure, it's a small study.

- It is not a small study.
- 694 was the number of people who said they do sex work.
- 6,400 is the actual number of survey respondents (one of the errors by Stavros)
- Statistically these count as extremely large sample sizes.
- Per the report: "To date, it remains the largest reported survey of transgender people in the US."
- Statistical science counts even a sample size of 30 as "large", because that's all it takes to make highly dependable predictions to a larger population of any size.

Criticizing huge sample sizes (like 6,400) as "small" is the single dumbest thing people say about statistics.

This is Statistics 101.

[Stavros]

- It is not a small study.
- 694 was the number of people who said they do sex work.
- 6,400 is the actual number of survey respondents (one of the errors by Stavros)
- Statistically these count as extremely large sample sizes.
- Per the report: "To date, it remains the largest reported survey of transgender people in the US."
- Statistical science counts even a sample size of 30 as "large", because that's all it takes to make highly dependable predictions to a larger population of any size.

Criticizing huge sample sizes (like 6,400) as "small" is the single dumbest thing people say about statistics.

This is Statistics 101.


The key point is whether the proportion of respondents in the survey who have engaged in sex work proves a disproportionate number of Transgendered Americans do sex work compared to cis-women. You need comparable surveys of both to reach a conclusion. There is also the problem of defining 'transgender' if self-identification rather than an 'objective' means of arriving at a meaningful understanding of the word.

Do cam shows constitute sex work? On one level, yes, but it is not an interaction that requires person-to-person contact, so it is quite different from what most people think, or used to think sex work is. It may also be the case that a relationship is easier to sustain if the sex work is done on cam, and the performer never meets her customers, it may even be encouraged as a source of income for the household.

I am not denying the vaidity of the original propostion, I am just not satisfied the available statistics, now nearly seven years old, prove the point in the OP.

[gaysian71]

I would date someone in the adult entertainment business. The only problem is I have not had the chance to meet many. The only one I've ever met was Yasmin Lee. But that was a long time ago and the only reason I had a chance to talk with her was because I was with my girlfriend. But the whole time I was talking with her, all I could think about was having sex with her hahaha. That was rude, I know. But when you are talking with someone in the industry, all you can really think about is having sex, especially when it's with someone as hot as Yasmin.

[corbindallas]

I don't think saying trans women are disproportionately involved in this kind of work is a controversial statement. You have a population of people that is disproportionately marginalized in society, unable to be their true selves in many sub-cultures, let alone western culture at large (and just consider the less accepting places in the world). Just from a common sense perspective you can see how this would lead a given population to more fringe style work.

I don't get why people get their panties in a bunch by stating something so clearly prevalent. It's not some indictment on trans people to suggest the truth. Rather it undermines the entirety of their situation, which doesn't help.

[corbindallas]

Now as to the question if I would date someone who was at some pt in the industry: sure.

Would I date someone actively in the industry? Only if it was solo pornography I think. I've dated gals who have done porn but none that were currently involved in it.

I don't begrudge anyone their preference in the matter. It's entirely personal, and you'd be justified in whatever your decision was.

[Lorca81]

The key point is whether the proportion of respondents in the survey who have engaged in sex work proves a disproportionate number of Transgendered Americans do sex work compared to cis-women. You need comparable surveys of both to reach a conclusion. ... .

There are many statistical sociological studies regarding sex work among cis women. Those studies consistently show the rate to be about 1% of survey samples. So, a study finding a rate of 10 to 11% among trans women indicates the rate is much higher among them. Hence, my original use o the word "disproportionate."


Do cam shows constitute sex work? On one level, yes, but it is not an interaction that requires person-to-person contact, so it is quite different from what most people think, or used to think sex work is. It may also be the case that a relationship is easier to sustain if the sex work is done on cam, and the performer never meets her customers, it may even be encouraged as a source of income for the household.

Erotic nude, cam shows, stripping, etc. are generally considered to fall under the umbrella term of sex work among those who advocate for sex workers. However, IIRC, the study I linked defined sex work more narrowly payment for engaging in sex.


I am not denying the vaidity of the original propostion, I am just not satisfied the available statistics, now nearly seven years old, prove the point in the OP.

Issues relating to or affecting the lives of transgender people -- health, life expectancy, educational outcomes, employment, housing, etc. -- are highly neglected by the government and academia. That study is the biggest and best I've found, albeit a bit old. But I see no reason to think much has changed in the last decade.

[MrFanti]

So, the reality is a disproportionate number of trans women do sex work of some kind (i.e., dancing, modeling, camming, hardcore content, escorting, etc.).
Going back to the OP's post....the highlighted portion might some effect on answers within this thread.
I.E. hardcore vs modeling.....Escort vs webcam....

Etc, etc....

[BostonBad]

I have aged very well for being 45 now BUT when I first got in this game I was in my 20s on steroids, Italian, always Tan, I'm hung I was just amazing looking and GGs TS everywhere I went were nuts for me I smashed many GG and TS xxx stars for free I'm still legendary to the older gals in NYC that remember the good ole days BUT while still attractive my teeth aren't as white, I have a flat stomach not a 6 pack I just don't work out much anymore I'm having a very very hard time striking out sometimes, I have my number to a gal at the grocery store a couple of weeks ago never got a call I'm not use to this, I'm very sucidal over it not the not getting a call but it's hit or miss now, from 16 to 36 anyone I wanted a had from Teachers, dancers xxx girls my mom's skin doctor etc, now I have basic girls turning me down sometimes I'm not lying or joking here I can't handle this life of losing my looks it's all I had

Go on TRT and start dating girls that are 25-30 and 30 pounds overweight but still pretty.


Secondly based on the overall theme of the conversation, I had an extended relationship with a beautiful asian ts that did porn and erotic massage.

It's like having a Rolls Royce. There aren't enough ts women in the population first of all. Secondly if she is hot and nice it's a rare find. So getting over it and having the hotwifing idea is the best way to cope. Would you rather have a Rolls that 100 people have driven or a new Kia? My ex wouldn't cum with clients and the loads were voluminous soI knew it was true.

You have to get over the idea that nobody is a virgin and most of us have been with 25-50 people.

If you have a keeper and she's filling your belly with semen, do you really have something to complain about? I didn't, she was pretty and her semen was good to eat.

[sd123223]

Go on TRT and start dating girls that are 25-30 and 30 pounds overweight but still pretty.


Secondly based on the overall theme of the conversation, I had an extended relationship with a beautiful asian ts that did porn and erotic massage.

It's like having a Rolls Royce. There aren't enough ts women in the population first of all. Secondly if she is hot and nice it's a rare find. So getting over it and having the hotwifing idea is the best way to cope. Would you rather have a Rolls that 100 people have driven or a new Kia? My ex wouldn't cum with clients and the loads were voluminous soI knew it was true.

You have to get over the idea that nobody is a virgin and most of us have been with 25-50 people.

If you have a keeper and she's filling your belly with semen, do you really have something to complain about? I didn't, she was pretty and her semen was good to eat.

Sounds lile true love to me B-Man.

[Lorca81]

I have aged very well for being 45 now BUT when I first got in this game I was in my 20s on steroids, Italian, always Tan, I'm hung I was just amazing looking and GGs TS everywhere I went were nuts for me I smashed many GG and TS xxx stars for free I'm still legendary to the older gals in NYC that remember the good ole days BUT while still attractive my teeth aren't as white, I have a flat stomach not a 6 pack I just don't work out much anymore I'm having a very very hard time striking out sometimes, I have my number to a gal at the grocery store a couple of weeks ago never got a call I'm not use to this, I'm very sucidal over it not the not getting a call but it's hit or miss now, from 16 to 36 anyone I wanted a had from Teachers, dancers xxx girls my mom's skin doctor etc, now I have basic girls turning me down sometimes I'm not lying or joking here I can't handle this life of losing my looks it's all I had

I had a lot going on in my life that made me feel like this for a while—turning 40, loosing muscle mass, divorce from the trans woman of my dreams after a decade—really messed up my self-esteem. But I found a silver lining: a lot of women like older guys with “daddy” vibes. Recently, I’ve met quite a few wonderful, younger trans girls who appreciate me for being a established, stable older guy. Honestly, it feels like a second renaissance!