Johnny Reb Allen's Swift Boating Of Jim Webb

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Johnny Reb Allen's Swift Boating Of Jim Webb
Bob Cesca

Bear with me as I try to figure out this Jim Webb situation. Senator Allen and the mighty GOP cabal is making a big deal about several historical novels written by Jim Webb and endorsed by Senator McCain which depict the horrors of the Vietnam war. The horrors include sexual references and acts which many veterans observed in the war. This somehow proves Jim Webb's lack of character.

Am I getting it so far?

Good. Let's continue.

Senator Allen and many of his fellow right wing parrots never served in Vietnam or in any war for that matter and one of the only Republicans who did in fact serve in Vietnam is actually on the record claiming the book is a vivid depiction of the some of the war's atrocities.

Got it. But wait...

Senator Allen, meanwhile, made a cameo appearance in the awful movie Gods and Generals (in the interest of fairness, Stephen Lang, who played Stonewall Jackson, was brilliant). Gods and Generals, apart from being a preachy love letter to the Confederacy with an editorial pace which made it seem only about two minutes shorter than the actual war, contained repeated instances of the word "darkies" to describe slaves while glorifying the generals who engaged in what technically amounted to an organized military and political insurrection against the United States. Senator Allen is seen in the movie singing the Bonnie Blue Flag lyric, "Hurrah! Hurrah! For Southern rights, hurrah!" implying, in part, the right to own slaves. Senator Allen, when you boil it right down, portrayed a traitor against the United States. An insurgent, if you will.


Yet few would be insane enough to indict Allen for this, other than his taste in writer/directors. It was a movie about actual events and actual behavior in Virginia during the American Civil War. He was involved in a production which fictionalized actual historical events -- events which included the ugliness of American war. Even after repeated allegations of racism, no-one I can think of has actually made an argument against Allen based on his Gods and Generals appearance. If anything, the Republicans could've made a gigantic hoohah over the fact that Allen appeared in the same scene as "far-left secular progressive" Ted Turner who, by the way, financed the movie and portrayed a Confederate officer.

That said, Senator Allen has again exposed his own lack of character and, more than anything, his myriad of political weaknesses in this latest desperate smear of his opponent. Allen dressed up in the mustache and the butternut uniform in a movie about the Civil War. Webb actually served meritoriously in the Vietnam war. Allen pretended to be a soldier which is as close as he ever came to actual military service. Webb described ugly truths he witnessed in wartime and its aftermath.

Now tell me -- because maybe I'm missing it -- does Senator Allen and his chickenhawk supporters in the wingnut media have a leg to stand on? Does Lynn Cheney, who's written salacious books and whose husband received five deferments from the draft during Vietnam ("Dick did not"), have any right to impugn Jim Webb on CNN? Do the hypocrite roster. It's not too difficult. Check out some of Arnold's movies. Check out what the president and others did while members of Yale's Skull & Bones society.

At the end of the day, the Rove Republicans have once again highlighted how shameless they can truly be. Not only have they brazenly and without remorse attacked the patriotism of decorated veterans like Max Cleland and Senator McCain, but now they're attacking a decorated veteran who wrote about the war. They've ripped these passages out of context for the easily led masses and posted them on Drudge. Then, in the most ridiculous strategic move in this outrageous stratagem, they pooped out Lynn Cheney and dumped her in CNN's lap to perpetuate this trumped up outrage against a Vietnam war veteran.

Now Jim Webb, a well-vetted Reagan appointee, has been forced to defend his stories of the war. Likewise, Michael J. Fox has been forced to defend his Parkinson's symptoms. What kind of party is this which controls our entire government and most of our media right now? It's surely a party which hasn't deserved a single second of that kind of success. And the only reason why they've managed to attain this power is very simply because they're good at, as Karl Rove quoted from City Slickers this week, "one thing." That one thing is manipulation. They manipulate you and everyone they encounter through fear, deception and ignorance of the truth. They manipulate good people into defending themselves when no defense would otherwise have been required.

I think I've grasped this now. Thanks for your patience.

A final note to anyone who's written about the atrocities of the Iraq War and who plans to one day serve in politics. Delete now -- especially if there's a chapter about Abu Ghraib containing the phrase "naked men smeared with feces forming a human pyramid." Who knows what brand of futuristic cyberwingnut will try to nail you on it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/johnny-reb-allens-swift-_b_32694.html

[White_Male_Canada]

M.J.Fox lied in his partisan campaign ad for the democrats.Failing to reveal he did not take medication for the commercial shoots and failing to mention the Prop.measure was for human cloning.Fox would kill a million babies if it meant he could live one extra day.A fucking ghoul who cries like a baby caught lying.

Nobody, NOBODY,forced Webb to write books about incestous pedophelia !!!

And nowhere,NOWHERE,is it culturally acceptable for a father so suck his pre-pubescent child`s penis. It is rape and sexual assault.What the fuck is going on in Webb`s head.

Foley sent emails to teenagers in DC where the age of consent is 16. No law was broken but Foley resigned.

Webb has to stand up,be a man,and also resign from politics.

Swiftboats? The entire coastal division 11 came out against Kerry,except for 2 or 3.What is there not to understand.

[White_Male_Canada]

Webb is toast. "Rove made me write those books about pedophelic incest" !? A-Ha-Haa :o

So good to see the neo-marxist left crucify a man for sending emails to teenagers when the age of consent in DC is 16 at the exact same time defend NAMBLA and Webb :lol:


You`re sick.

[White_Male_Canada]

"Rove made me write books about sucking a child`s cock !" :lol:

Yeah,Rove `s in the basement of the White House at the controls of his his mind control machine right now !

Get your tinfoil hat on ! :lol:

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The desperation of the neo-con chickenhawks and their sheep and stooges is clearly growing....

From Webb's statement

Webb responded Friday morning on Washington Post radio. "Let me explain what that was," he said. "I actually saw this happen in a slum of Bangkok and when I was there as a journalist. A man placing his lips on his son's private parts. ... And the duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings.

"There is nothing that's been in any of my novels that, in my view, hasn't been either illuminating surroundings or defining a character or moving a plot," Webb said.

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Webb told Washington Post radio that to pull excerpts from his writings "and force them on people, sort of, like pound them over the head with them," rather than having someone read the entire book "is just a classic example of the way this [Allen] campaign has worked. And you know, it's smear after smear."

"This is a Karl Rove campaign," Webb said, referring to President Bush's chief political strategist. "We have known this one was coming for quite some time."

Webb said advisers had warned him his opponent would pore over his novels to find incendiary passages. Webb accused Allen of not having "a record to run on" and attempting "character assassination."


and this-

Jim Webb Wrote Truth About Vietnam and Spoke Truth About Iraq
Brent Budowsky

Jim Webb has received extraordinary praise even from his opponents for his extraordinary heroism leading those under his command in the United States Marine Corps in Vietnam. Like most true American heroes, Jim Webb does not praise himself for being awarded medals and honors for bravery and valor in service that would make every American proud of him.

Jim Webb has served brilliantly at a high level in the Department of Defense and as Secretary of the Navy, and within hours of his election and swearing in, would be one of the most respected, wise and influential members of the Senate.

JIm Webb's writings have been praised by John McCain, and by the Commandant of the United States Marine Corps, who has recommended Webb's words to our young troops, risking their lives in service.

In my opinion, the truth is, Jim Webb's writings about Vietnam are almost as important as the medals he was awarded in war, and the service he gave to our military in government.

Jim Webb returned from Vietnam determined to tell his story, his way, and to the tell the story of the Corps, of the miitary, of the men and women who stood with him in the face of real bullets and real bombs in a real war in Vietnam, in which our government did our troops little service, in which our goverment told our people little truth, in which brave men and women died in large measure because of failures in Washington.

Sound familiar?

Jim Webb returned from Vietnam with a passion and eloquence for truth about war, with an intense drive to let the broader world at home know the way it really was.

Jim Webb returned from Vietnam with a determination and passion to tell the story of the heroism of those who fought those battles, those with names that now rest proudly on that Wall within sight of the White House, those who pay a price with trauma that continues today and those who live on grates as our homeless heroes, neglected by a society that does not give enough of a damn, considering how much they gave us, and how high a price they paid.

Jim Webb's writings about Vietnam are brave, hard, true, inspiring, depressing, outraging, lifting, eloquent, sad, disgusting, courageous, noble, brilliant, sickening, educating, ugly and honorable because they speak truth to power. They speak truth to the powerless. They speak truth of war. They speak truth to our troops and about our troops. Above all, they speak truth to us and about us, when we send our sons and our daughters to war, but do not do our duty at home.

Get your tinfoil hat on ! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Well, isn't this interesting? A few years ago, back before Jim Webb had the audacity to challenge George Allen for U.S. Senate, the right-wing FreeRepublic.com, which bills itself as "A Conservative News Forum," came up with its "Military History and Strategy Readling List." Guess what? Alongside "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu and "Blackhawk Down" were the following suggestions:

*"Anything written by James Webb."
*"Amen on James Webb. Fields of Fire, particularly."

George Allen attacked Jim Webb's classic Vietnam War novel, "Fields of Fire." In doing so, George Allen didn't just attack Jim Webb. George Allen didn't just attack literature. George Allen also attacked the Marine Corps, which lists "Fields of Fire" as part of its Professional Reading Program. According to the Marine Corps, "Fields of Fire" is one of the books that are "required to be read by all Marines while serving in the grade shown." "Fields of Fire" is listed under "Corporal to Sergeant"

COMMANDANT OF THE U.S. MARINE CORPS
OFFICIAL READING LIST

http://home.comcast.net/~antaylor1/usmccommandant.html

Well, isn't this interesting? A few years ago, back before Jim Webb had the audacity to challenge George Allen for U.S. Senate, the right-wing FreeRepublic.com, which bills itself as "A Conservative News Forum," came up with its "Military History and Strategy Readling List." Guess what? Alongside "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu and "Blackhawk Down" were the following suggestions:

*"Anything written by James Webb."
*"Amen on James Webb. Fields of Fire, particularly."

George Allen attacked Jim Webb's classic Vietnam War novel, "Fields of Fire." In doing so, George Allen didn't just attack Jim Webb. George Allen didn't just attack literature. George Allen also attacked the Marine Corps, which lists "Fields of Fire" as part of its Professional Reading Program. According to the Marine Corps, "Fields of Fire" is one of the books that are "required to be read by all Marines while serving in the grade shown." "Fields of Fire" is listed under "Corporal to Sergeant"

COMMANDANT OF THE U.S. MARINE CORPS
OFFICIAL READING LIST

http://home.comcast.net/~antaylor1/usmccommandant.html

[whatsupwithat]

The GOP is just evil. And every time the American people are really farkin' stupid to believe the shit they pull out of their asses.

SBVFT Guy: "Yeah, hey, I knew that dude when I was young and he was would, like, bite cat's testicles off, man!"

And, once again, the WAPO is right there to lend a hand. Unreal.

Oh, and...

“James Webb’s new novel paints a portrait of a modern Vietnam charged with hopes for the future but haunted by the ghosts of its war-torn past. It captures well the lingering scars of the war, and exposes the tension between the dynamism of a new generation and the invisible bondage of an older generation for whom wartime allegiances, and animosities, are rendered no less vivid by the passage of time. A novel of revenge and redemption that tells us much about both where Vietnam is headed and where it has been.”
— Senator John McCain


And....


The authoritative Growing Up: A Cross-Cultural Encyclopedia covers 87 cultures in which it says there is no incest, just adults playing with, stroking, masturbating and sucking their baby's genitals: "Truk adults play with an infant's genitals...In China, Manchu mothers tickle the genitals of their little daughters and suck the penis of a small son...in Thailand, a Banoi mother habitually strokes her son's genitals."


And...

"It's not a sexual act," Webb told Plotkin regarding the "Lost Soldiers" excerpt. "I actually saw this happen in a slum in Bangkok when I was there as a journalist. The duty of a writer is to illuminate his surroundings."
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[whatsupwithat]

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Dude, you are such a troll.

And, White Canada Guy, how much are you getting paid to drop this crap on porno blogs?

Goawd, you guys are really pathetic.

I guess cops that uncover child porn rings should write books detailing the illegal doings.

Afterall, it's only literature and as long as it only details "the linger scars of childrens lives", well, hmmph, I guess it's ok!

Woo hoo! DNC given NAMBLA some new stroke material!

[whatsupwithat]

I guess cops that uncover child porn rings should write books detailing the illegal doings.

Afterall, it's only literature and as long as it only details "the linger scars of childrens lives", well, hmmph, I guess it's ok!

Woo hoo! DNC given NAMBLA some new stroke material!

wake up.

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FOX’s Col. Hunt endorses Jim Webb over George Allen


In a twist that left Sean Hannity almost speechless on H&C Friday night, FOX News military analyst Col. Hunt said that he preferred Jim Webb over George Allen in the Virgina race because he's a battle tested military man and Allen is just a football player.

Hunt is a Marine combat hero.


Hannity is a chickenhawk stooge left pouting by Hunt's endorsement. :lol: :P

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George Felix Allen Obsesses About Gay Marriage

Bob Geiger


Judging by how Republicans focus their attention, you would never know that we're having the bloodiest month of 2006, in a civil war for which the GOP leadership can do nothing but get us in deeper and make us profoundly less safe. You wouldn't have a clue that North Korea has joined the nuke-of-the-month club or that we've gone from being respected throughout the world when we had a real president (Bill Clinton) to being arguably the most despised nation on the planet since the Republicans took over.

And you damn sure would never know that the new century has seen us with a net loss of high-paying jobs, the biggest budget deficit in U.S. history, 46 million of our citizens with no health insurance and a federal minimum wage that continues to keep Americans working 40 to 50 hours a week below the poverty line.

But what is Virginia Senator George Felix Allen focusing on when he's not wallpapering his den with confederate flags or spitting out racial slurs? He's fighting off the political challenge of his career from Democrat Jim Webb by harping on.... Same-sex marriage, of course.

Granted, Virginia is one of eight states voting on Constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage next week, but the fact is, Virginia's state initiative has nothing to do with national issues of concern to a United States Senator and everything to do with Allen's pathetic and struggling campaign pushing a wedge issue to get right-wing bigots to the polls.

And, boy, is Allen all over this one. In just four days last week, Allen's campaign issued not one, not two, but five press releases exploiting the subject of gay marriage. More accurately, the statements were designed to persuade Virginians into thinking that, if Jim Webb is elected to Allen's Senate seat, the majority of heterosexual couples in the state will careen irreversibly toward divorce.

"I have long believed that the family is the most important institution in all of our society. It is more important than our State and local governments, the Governor, the Congress, or even the President," one release announced Allen as saying during a rally at a church last week. "I believe marriage should be between one man and one woman - and on this issue, the will of the people is clear."

Allen's five, gay-marriage statements issued between Wednesday and Saturday of last week focused mainly on the donations Webb has indirectly received from Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton -- imagine how much those names will scare some backwoods types -- and lamenting the New Jersey Supreme Court's ruling on gay marriage.

"New Jersey's recent court ruling again emphasizes the need to ensure passage of Virginia's proposed marriage amendment," one release quotes State Senator Mark Obenshain as saying in support of Allen. "On this crucial issue, George Allen's opponent is not aligned with Virginians and our mainstream values. I stand with George Allen because he is willing to fight to preserve traditional marriage."

I can't help but wonder what Virginia's "mainstream values," as defined by the likes of Obenshain and Allen, say about thousands of young Americans killed in a war based on lies or a Republican U.S. Senator who also happens to be a proven racist.

But the Allen camp really saves its bile for the attempts to make Webb look like the second coming of Karl Marx and ties him as closely as possible to those Massachusetts bogeymen, Kennedy and Kerry.

"Earlier this year, Senators Kennedy and Kerry voted against the federal marriage amendment," says one statement. "Now Kennedy and Kerry have dug into their pockets and donated $1 million to the DSCC, which, as of today, had already spent $1.72 million in Virginia."

"He [Webb] wants to assure his liberal allies in Washington DC who are pouring millions of dollars of attack ads into Virginia that he will not protect the institution of marriage in Virginia."

And Allen's campaign manager, Dick Wadhams, made it really clear that the most constructive debate Virginians should hear in the closing days of the 2006 Senatorial contest is the bashing of two Senators from a state 400 miles away.

"Kennedy and Kerry are emblematic of the Democrats' efforts to appoint liberal judges who will subvert the will of the people and impose their elitist views on the people of this country," said Wadhams. "The D.C. Democrats know what they are paying for when they donate to Democrats like Jim Webb."

But here's the best part from Wadhams: "We'd be thrilled if Webb decides to take his Massachusetts buddies, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry on a statewide tour with him across Virginia the next couple weeks. But it's probably more likely we'll see them all windsurfing in Cape Cod or dining in Martha's Vineyard."

Now there's a campaign to make every man, woman and child in Virginia proud.

It's just too bad we don't have a few more weeks until election day.

You see, Webb is against a Constitutional amendment banning flag-burning and the last time the Allen campaign was stupid enough to broach this subject, they got pummeled with this from Webb's team:


"George Felix Allen Jr. and his bush-league lapdog, Dick Wadhams, have not earned the right to challenge Jim Webb's position on free speech and flag burning. Jim Webb served and fought for our flag and what it stands for, while George Felix Allen Jr. chose to cut and run. When he and his disrespectful campaign puppets attack Jim Webb they are attacking every man and woman who served. Their comments are nothing more than weak-kneed attacks by cowards.

"While Jim Webb and others of George Felix Allen Jr.'s generation were fighting for our freedoms and for our symbols of freedom in Vietnam, George Felix Allen Jr. was playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada. People who live in glass dude ranches should not question the patriotism of real soldiers who fought and bled for this country on a real battlefield."


Yowzah!

I guess for a Chickenhawk like Allen, it's much easier to stick with racial slurs and sowing bigotry against gay Americans in the days before November 7 than to take on a highly-decorated, former Marine.

Let's hope that the majority of Virginians realize that, no matter who George Felix Allen is hating today, a coward is still a coward -- and that can't possibly be one of their "values."

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