9/11 and 11/9

[natina]

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[filghy2]

9/11 killed nearly 3,000 people but it didn't destroy the USA that we knew. I guess we'll soon find out whether 11/9 did that.

[blackchubby38]

This is one of those rare times that I agree with Conservatives when they Liberal Hollywood is out of touch with middle America.

[broncofan]

People may find the comparison unsettling since one involved the deliberate murder of thousands of people but Trump has the potential to do as much harm. And it's not the sort of latent potential that any President has to do harm, but of someone who is willing to stoke race hatred, promote antagonism towards a free press and undermine the electoral process to get his way.

Here's a clip of Steve King of Iowa sounding off https://twitter.com/AndrewBatesNC/status/1059605911453491201

Anybody with a shred of decency is out of touch with that kind of homophobia and all the rest of it, regardless of geography.

[fred41]

It's highly unlikely that Tom Hanks is actually wearing that T-Shirt (It's writing is ridiculously straight and completely off the center of his chest). If you Google the quote and view it on the 'image' search, you will see other celebrities wearing photoshopped T-shirts, with that quote or something very similar, that they are not actually wearing. Based on everything I've ever read about Mr. Hanks I would assume he's a totally classy guy who would never have made that idiotic comparison on a T-Shirt. Since I don't believe he did, he doesn't need anyone to defend it...since it would be indefensible (in my opinion).

[filghy2]

It's definitely a fake. Tom Hanks is Mr Middle America, so I thought it was unlikely. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tom-hanks-political-tshirt/

It's true that this is a classic apples vs oranges comparison between two very different things, and perhaps such comparisons are not helpful. Reducing political issues to t-shirt or bumper sticker slogans is bit of a fool's game, anyway. Does it ever change anyone else's mind?

[broncofan]

I regret my post on this topic. Insensitive to make the comparison, particularly to those who lost loved ones or who know people who were killed during the wtc attacks. Or those who just want it memorialized appropriately and not to be subject to strained comparisons that trivializes it. I guess I lost my head a bit....

[peejaye]

Well done above poster. I know human rights, political correctness & general do-gooding is what these Liberals, or whatever you're called in the US, believe in more than anything else in life but can a President of the US really be compared to one of the worlds most recent atrocities really be justified? I mean, I'm full of hatred towards Politicians & it's warranted living in this fucking dump!
Stand back & take a good look at yourselves.

[trish]

...can a President of the US really be compared to one of the worlds most recent atrocities really be justified?.

Don’t know. That’s not a well formed question.
Perhaps you simply meant, “Can the consequences of a President’s actions, policies and political banter really be compared to one of the worlds most recent atrocities?” If so, than of course one can compare and contrast almost anything.

Perhaps instead you meant, “Can one justify comparing the consequences of President Trump’s actions, policies and political banter to the trauma of 9/11 ?” The answer here is that no one is maintaining such a comparison. The only people who initiated such comparison are the nationalist asswipes who photoshopped those Ts to begin with. Stand back and take a good look at your lying selves.

[peejaye]

F**k me! Are you married to Stavros? You know what I mean. A man like Trump will wind-up you humanitarians but at the end of the day he's here for a while because a lot of people like him because he does what he says, he's created jobs & the Economy appears to be doing OK, or at least that's what the UK media are saying.
Because of immigration I'm afraid do-gooding is coming to an end. People have had enough, America first sounds a great slogan to me. I wish we had a Leader in the UK who put this country & its people first instead of a cunt what doesn't give a shit.
I'm not arguing with anyone, there's already someone on here doing that on a daily basis. Sorry if it's not clear enough for you, I didn't go to University.
Rant over. :ignore:

[Jericho]

Because of immigration I'm afraid do-gooding is coming to an end.
::Owain Glyndŵr or Sitting Bull?

[trish]

...Trump... he's created jobs & the Economy appears to be doing OK,...

After W left us with the world’s largest recession, Obama took the U.S. unemployment rate down from 9% to 4%. Worst performance ever according to Trump - who praises himself for taking it down three-tenth of a percentage point to 3.7%. Yea Trump!
In the meantime Trump and Ryan’s tax break left us with the biggest budget deficit to date. Suddenly the GOP doesn’t think deficits are all that important! Oh wait - we can now use the deficit as an excuse to scale back Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Yea!
Pay no mind to the money Trump and his family are making by exploiting their federal offices. LOOK! There’s a CARAVAN!

[filghy2]

Because of immigration I'm afraid do-gooding is coming to an end. People have had enough, America first sounds a great slogan to me. I wish we had a Leader in the UK who put this country & its people first instead of a cunt what doesn't give a shit.

Who exactly are these do-gooders that are apparently the root of all evil? Is Jeremy Corbyn one? He seems to care about human rights. Is Theresa May? If she doesn't give a shit wouldn't that make her a non-do-gooder?

You might want to try googling the history of America First. If America First had prevailed in WW2 your country would have been left alone to face the Nazis. http://time.com/4273812/america-first-donald-trump-history/

[filghy2]

Although he wasn't really wearing that t-shirt, is seems that Tom Hanks is really another one of those liberal 'do-gooders'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hanks

[filghy2]

A man like Trump will wind-up you humanitarians but at the end of the day he's here for a while because a lot of people like him because he does what he says, he's created jobs & the Economy appears to be doing OK, or at least that's what the UK media are saying.

That must be why he has the lowest approval ratings of any president since WW2, and his party just lost the mid-terms by a big margin on the popular vote. But you're right that he is very popular with one group - angry, older white males who are less educated and don't like immigrants or having women running things.

[peejaye]

After W left us with the world’s largest recession, Obama took the U.S. unemployment rate down from 9% to 4%. Worst performance ever according to Trump - who praises himself for taking it down three-tenth of a percentage point to 3.7%. Yea Trump!
In the meantime Trump and Ryan’s tax break left us with the biggest budget deficit to date. Suddenly the GOP doesn’t think deficits are all that important! Oh wait - we can now use the deficit as an excuse to scale back Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Yea!
Pay no mind to the money Trump and his family are making by exploiting their federal offices. LOOK! There’s a CARAVAN!

You either like him or you don't. Accept it. I think he's going to be around for a while. Obama's history, better get over it.

[trish]

Sure. No problem. Obama is history and Trump is currently writing it. I’m just noting that Trump’s history does not and will not compare very well next to most. He will be noted mostly for his perfidy, racism, corruption, obstruction and collusion.