to the girls: do you prefer to be stunning or passable?

[morim]

Not always a gorgeous girl is passable, and many time the more stunning the more clockable she is.
What do you prefer, to be a super stunning woman, or a beauty girl among thousands of beauty other girls?
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[SanDiegoPervySage]

She needs to be very feminine and passable, which can be a variety of looks. There are cute girls, stunning/gorgeous girls, hot girls, etc. A cute girl next door type is different from a bad IG model.

[Cereal Escapist]

Given your choices, though "stunning" is so ambiguous and can mean different things to different people, I guess I prefer stunnning women. That said, what I find stunning obviously is not what everyone else would find stunning.

That is because, I simply do not care if a girl is passable/clockable at all. In fact quite a few of the women I lust after are NOT "passable" and are "easily clockable." There is no mistaking that they are in transition and it doesn't bother me at all, and in fact is part of the reason I like them.

Also to the point of a girl being "feminine" that is also a subjective term. Can't a girl be extremely feminine without being "passable?" I believe they can be because femininity is more than just looks, it is how ladylike and refined she carries herself and acts as opposed to maybe opening a beer bottle with her teeth.

[giovanni_hotel]

Prefer passable, whether she's a '10', or looks like plain Jane.

[morim]

I like stunning t-women, and I like feminine tgirls of course.
The point is that sometimes some girls are "hyper Feminine", I mean big big breast, super heavy makeup, super sexy outfit and so on, and many genetic woman aren't.
This make them "emerge" among other women.
I don't care If the girl that is with me is passable or "clockable", but I had such curiosity to understand what a girl prefers: to be super feminine and make heads turn, or to be a "simple" pretty girl among the other pretty girls (T or not T).

[TSPornFan]

I have never seen a gorgeous TS woman, who is not passable. Example please?

[Fitzcarraldo]

Apparently none of the responders so far read the topic title.

[susivilla]

huuu

[morim]

I have never seen a gorgeous TS woman, who is not passable. Example please?
Well the first that come in mind are Allanah Starr, Kimber Lee, Vanessa Jhons and there are many many others.
I can not believe that (if you are in to TS women) if while wolking down the street you cross one of them you do not think she hasn't born that way.
That doesn't mean i do not find them super attractive.

[MrFanti]

Apparently none of the responders so far read the topic title.
Lots of folks don't clearly read things around here...

[Fitzcarraldo]

Lots of folks don't clearly read things around here...

I guess reading with one hand is as tricky as typing with one hand.

[Cereal Escapist]

Apparently none of the responders so far read the topic title.

there are very VERY few girls that respond here. it is mostly a chaser/admirer board so what do you expect.

[Fitzcarraldo]

there are very VERY few girls that respond here. it is mostly a chaser/admirer board so what do you expect.

You're even blind to how many girls post on here.

[Cereal Escapist]

I have never seen a gorgeous TS woman, who is not passable. Example please?

intrinsically, your request is flawed because who you and anyone else considers "gorgeous" or "passable" will vary substantially with your personal tastes and bias but here goes:

Transwomen that I consider amazing but not passable and easily clockable
kayleigh coxx
morgan bailey
tiffany starr
jenna tales
jaqueline woods
marissa minx
chanel noir
jonelle brooks
casey kisses
shiri allwood
brooklyn roberts
lianna lawson....I could go on but I think you get the point, women who are tall, broad shouldered, longer than usual torso and neck and facial features that are more "chiseled" than a ggirl usually has

AND quite a few Brazilian girls as many I lust after have quite non-passable features and physiques:
raica lima
deborah mastronelly
bianca alencar
nicole muller
barbara perez
victoria carvalho, etc

Now, commence the disagreement!

[Cereal Escapist]

You're even blind to how many girls post on here.

really, have any replied to a thread asking them a question?

[MrFanti]

really, have any replied to a thread asking them a question?

Yes.

[Cereal Escapist]

looks like only dudes so far on this thread.

[MrFanti]

looks like only dudes so far on this thread.
Which is exactly why Fitzcarraldo pointed out that folks have problems reading the topic title...

[Stavros]

there are very VERY few girls that respond here. it is mostly a chaser/admirer board so what do you expect.

Plenty of people read the posts without responding to them.
I assume that if your girlfriend is going to the supermarket to buy groceries she will be dressed in trainers, jeans and a top, and if you are taking her to the Ballet, or a charity function at the Met, she will be stunning. And I guess if you love her, you won't judge her by the way she dresses anyway, be it Rihanna chic or the girl next door.
But I am not a girl, so what would I know?

[Cereal Escapist]

Which is exactly why Fitzcarraldo pointed out that folks have problems reading the topic title...

which makes your reply to this thread actually part of the problem.

[Cereal Escapist]

Plenty of people read the posts without responding to them.
I assume that if your girlfriend is going to the supermarket to buy groceries she will be dressed in trainers, jeans and a top, and if you are taking her to the Ballet, or a charity function at the Met, she will be stunning. And I guess if you love her, you won't judge her by the way she dresses anyway, be it Rihanna chic or the girl next door.
But I am not a girl, so what would I know?

I'm not trying to be disagreeable but there are some girls that look stunning in trainers, jeans and a tank too. That everyday look sometimes does it more for me than when a girl tries too hard or spends too much time with make up and picking the perfect $800 shoes to go great with her thrift store dress.

[susivilla]

why not a combo of both passable and stunning...

[MrFanti]

which makes your reply to this thread actually part of the problem.
No...
My reply was not a response to the OP's question....whereas quite a few others were.

Yes you are trying to be disagreeable......Cheers!

[nycguy1]

i suppose the definition of "passable" here seems to be "feminine" as close to a ggirl as passable. i think most if not nearly all guys would agree that it all depends on chemistry and attraction, irl or in porn. if that girl has that "it" factor that turns you on - whatever it happens to be - these categories and definitions don't matter.

i prefer girls that are very feminine like sapphire and, in general, ladyboys. asian girls are not my thing but they have the best frame and body makeup (including face) for the most feminine features.


why not a combo of both passable and stunning...

girls like vaniity in her youth is an example. same with patricia araujo.

[Cereal Escapist]

No...
My reply was not a response to the OP's question....whereas quite a few others were.

Yes you are trying to be disagreeable......Cheers!

lol. you are such a beta.

[MrFanti]

lol. you are such a beta.

Nope...Actually I'm a Sigma....
Anyways...
But I can tell you're quite sensitive.....

So Cheers!

[palomo7531]

I look more for thicker feminine style. That’s why I’m not huge into the ladyboy look. I like women with a nice thick ass and frame to support bigger tits. The way Bailey Jay looks right now and Melody Monae as well. I like beautiful faces but I would rather take a ok face and a thicker body than a super beautiful face and skinny frame.

[Paladin]

Well, three pages wasted so far.....

[Cereal Escapist]

Nope...Actually I'm a Sigma....
Anyways...
But I can tell you're quite sensitive.....

So Cheers!

you don't even know what that means which makes you even more beta.


Well, three pages wasted so far.....

the irony is, still no women have posted. perhaps all women want to be both stunning and passable so there is no need for them to answer the question.

[TSPornFan]

intrinsically, your request is flawed because who you and anyone else considers "gorgeous" or "passable" will vary substantially with your personal tastes and bias but here goes:

Transwomen that I consider amazing but not passable and easily clockable
kayleigh coxx
morgan bailey
tiffany starr
jenna tales
jaqueline woods
marissa minx
chanel noir
jonelle brooks
casey kisses
shiri allwood
brooklyn roberts
lianna lawson....I could go on but I think you get the point, women who are tall, broad shouldered, longer than usual torso and neck and facial features that are more "chiseled" than a ggirl usually has

AND quite a few Brazilian girls as many I lust after have quite non-passable features and physiques:
raica lima
deborah mastronelly
bianca alencar
nicole muller
barbara perez
victoria carvalho, etc

Now, commence the disagreement!

The I only girl I disagree with is Kayleigh Coxx. She has the girl next door look going well very. She's passable and pretty in my opinion.

[kmersh]

My two cents for whatever they are not worth (as I am a guy).

I am married to a transgender woman and I would say without a doubt that she would choose "passable" 10 time out of ten over "stunning".

As far as she is concerned, blending into society and being accepted for who she is, a woman, is far more important, but that is her, other woman might feel differently.

We shop at Costco (a wholesale club) fairly frequently and we have noticed on a few occasions another transgender woman who I guess could be classified as "stunning". She always wears heels, a dress, makeup, does her hair, shows off her breasts, etc. makes folks look.

My wife does not understand her motivation, while folks here may feel that she is stunning (and no doubt she could easily make the list posted up thread) society as a whole unfortunately does not and many folks make snide comments when she walks by. Essentially they are laughing at her, not with her.

Last time we saw her, my wife said, it is Costco for crying out loud, not a fashion show. She feels the biggest mistake transgender woman tend to make is becoming "hyper-feminine" to make up for lost time. She feels that by blending in, being the girl next door, makes being accepted easier.

Obviously, we as individuals may and most likely will feel differently.

[MrFanti]

you don't even know what that means which makes you even more beta.

Actually....
You don't understand. Read my signature to educate yourself about us Sigmas. :D

And the nice thing about us Sigma's is that we don't have the insecurities of you Alphas (i.e. we don't need a pack of followers). And we don't submit to you Alphas either which frustrates you folks. :cool:

Cheers!

[dirtrail]

I’m not quite sure what “passable” vs “stunning” in accordance with the op, but I like my girls very feminine, a nice personality goes alond ways, and definitely passable.

“Stunning” sounds expensive and a possibility a pain in the ass, lol

[morim]

Well, at this point I think to understand that many girls prefer to be fine and pretty but not "too gorgeous" because this would make them be clockable among other women.

[WendyWilliams]

Seeing so many guys comment on their beliefs is amusing as most of yall just see Trans women as a sexual object, fantasy or experiment.

Let me say I have been living as Wendy for almost 20 years and when young, naive, and listening to other's we are taught or programmed we must PASS and beauty is measured by how many surgeries and how "passable" you are and sadly thats just not true. Being passable doesn't necessarily mean "pretty". Most average looking women pass better than the barbie looking surgery TS.

For me being tall and a husky voice I in fact BLEND into society fine and thats all I really want and need. As you get older you become more comortable and the VAIN moments of your life become a distant memory. I rather being able to function in society and live comfortable then worry about what others label me as.

Also one's definition of "passable" or "stunning" is personal taste. I am a prime example of that LOL. My entire 16 year career I've been judged by my physical looks and yet I continue to be one of the most successful Trans women of our Industry.

I would hope ladies are more worried about being financially stunning then having legends of fans comparing them to fellow Trans sisters. I also hope people stop thinking that being passable means being pretty as thats just not how it works. YES being able to "pass" helps in society but it doesn't necessarily mean it makes your life any easier.

Finally being "stunning" will def. help many ladies in their career with opportunities, quick money, and companies standing behind tjem but I've seen many of those STUNNING ladies exhaust those stunning looks quickly and look where they are now!

[Cereal Escapist]

Seeing so many guys comment on their beliefs is amusing as most of yall just see Trans women as a sexual object, fantasy or experiment.

despite some of our best efforts, this is in the end, a porn board, so what do you expect?

you are absolutely correct that definitions are a matter of personal taste.

the most wondrous transwoman I know personally is neither stunning nor passable. she simply checks every box for me though I suspect most on this board would say she is not hot, cute or substitute any usual word that supplants beauty since in the end, beauty, attractiveness, etc is all subjective and superficial and what if anything other than superficiality is discussed on a porn board?

[WendyWilliams]

despite some of our best efforts, this is in the end, a porn board, so what do you expect?

you are absolutely correct that definitions are a matter of personal taste.

the most wondrous transwoman I know personally is neither stunning nor passable. she simply checks every box for me though I suspect most on this board would say she is not hot, cute or substitute any usual word that supplants beauty since in the end, beauty, attractiveness, etc is all subjective and superficial and what if anything other than superficiality is discussed on a porn board?

So because its a "porn" board Im not allowed to comment or have a opinion. I should just sit back and allow MEN to define me and my sisters all because I chose to do Porn. Your logic makes no sense because even though its PORN its still a DISCUSSION FORUM and I am only stating my opinion since the thread said TO THE GIRLS not TO THE CHASERS or TO THE HORNY or TO THE GUYS......... so yea Ill continue to call out the bullshit and THIRST as long as Im still involved here, Ive been a member for 15 years on this board TRUST I know what kind of board it is.

[MrFanti]

Also one's definition of "passable" or "stunning" is personal taste. I am a prime example of that LOL. My entire 16 year career I've been judged by my physical looks and yet I continue to be one of the most successful Trans women of our Industry.



Wendy,
The best looks in the world can't make up for (in pure sex terms), eroticism, ecstasy, and alluring sexuality. You have all 3 in spades!
What makes your scenes so hot is that you're into it at a personal level that we all can relate to....

[MrFanti]

So because its a "porn" board Im not allowed to comment or have a opinion. I should just sit back and allow MEN to define me and my sisters all because I chose to do Porn. Your logic makes no sense because even though its PORN its still a DISCUSSION FORUM and I am only stating my opinion since the thread said TO THE GIRLS not TO THE CHASERS or TO THE HORNY or TO THE GUYS......... so yea Ill continue to call out the bullshit and THIRST as long as Im still involved here, Ive been a member for 15 years on this board TRUST I know what kind of board it is.
Bingo!
And a lot of folks get pissed when your perspective doesn't align with theirs...

[Cereal Escapist]

So because its a "porn" board Im not allowed to comment or have a opinion. I should just sit back and allow MEN to define me and my sisters all because I chose to do Porn. Your logic makes no sense because even though its PORN its still a DISCUSSION FORUM and I am only stating my opinion since the thread said TO THE GIRLS not TO THE CHASERS or TO THE HORNY or TO THE GUYS......... so yea Ill continue to call out the bullshit and THIRST as long as Im still involved here, Ive been a member for 15 years on this board TRUST I know what kind of board it is.

hmm...you get defensive quite quickly. actually nothing i said was against you, just pointing out that you are expecting too much from a porn board while being equally judgmental about your customers as they are of you, or at least what they know of you.

get over yourself since all I commented on was that you will not get much more than a superficial response from the average porn fanatic.

[Fitzcarraldo]

hmm...you get defensive quite quickly. actually nothing i said was against you, just pointing out that you are expecting too much from a porn board while being equally judgemental about your customers as they are of you, or at least what they know of you. get over yourself.

Who elected you to speak for the board? Four pages of this ridiculous topic and she's the first woman to speak in it, and you jump all over her. She should be able to expect that she can voice her opinion in a topic that addresses her specifically.

[MrFanti]

Who elected you to speak for the board? Four pages of this ridiculous topic and she's the first woman to speak in it, and you jump all over her. She should be able to expect that she can voice her opinion in a topic that addresses her specifically.

Bingo!!!

[Cereal Escapist]

Who elected you to speak for the board? Four pages of this ridiculous topic and she's the first woman to speak in it, and you jump all over her. She should be able to expect that she can voice her opinion in a topic that addresses her specifically.

where did i jump all over her. i said she was absolutely right and I was actually critiquing the users here, of which i am one. please point out what criticism I laid on Wendy herself?

[Fitzcarraldo]

where did i jump all over her. i said she was absolutely right and I was actually critiquing the users here, of which i am one. please point out what criticism I laid on Wendy herself?

You told her to get over herself. She wasn't exerting any kind of offensive ego, unlike some others.

[morim]

Well, I'll try to take this thread back on "the rails".
Last night I was in a "gay friendly" disco here in Tuscany (Italy), among straight people there were many gay girls, some gay boys and a little group of trans girls.
I talked few minutes with them, and the only girl that at first I did not understand was trans was the less feminine of the group!
She was absolutely charming, but had no breast and wore few or no make up.