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natina
04-12-2018, 01:57 AM
Trump signs law targeting sex trafficking websites

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/04/11/Trump-signs-law-targeting-sex-trafficking-websites/7621523466433

BeardedOne
04-12-2018, 04:25 AM
What a total fucktard.

filghy2
04-12-2018, 05:11 AM
Must have been a novel experience for him, to be in a room full of women but no groping opportunities.

Ben in LA
04-12-2018, 11:54 AM
Orange piece of shit...smdh...

bassman2546
04-12-2018, 02:11 PM
What a fucking hypocrite! This doesn't erase all the sexual assaults he's committed - and will continue to commit.

smooth007
04-12-2018, 02:26 PM
1068862

with all due respect Trump is a great comedian!

MrFanti
04-12-2018, 02:28 PM
What a fucking hypocrite! This doesn't erase all the sexual assaults he's committed - and will continue to commit.
Are you going to defend Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones or no?

Stavros
04-12-2018, 03:02 PM
Must have been a novel experience for him, to be in a room full of women but no groping opportunities.

He didn't realise they were women as they weren't wearing bikinis and identifying labels, such as Miss Indiana, Miss Alabama etc.

MrFanti
04-12-2018, 03:11 PM
What a fucking hypocrite! This doesn't erase all the sexual assaults he's committed - and will continue to commit.
Oh and...sexual assault and harassment is sexual assault and harassment, doesn't matter how one is aligned politically.
Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and Juanita Brodderick all said they were harassed/assaulted but were shit on.....

goatman
04-12-2018, 03:16 PM
Orange piece of shit...smdh...

Yep....'Bout sums it up...

Unfortunately, the paper trail on this leads across the aisle...

trish
04-12-2018, 04:12 PM
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Since then times have changed. Al Franken gave up his seat on the Senate in the face of allegations of sexual abuse. Of course this pussy grabbing hypocrite we call our President now will never pay the price: he and his diehard supporters have no honor, no decency, and no sense of shame. So buck up, and face the consequences of your political choices. Let’s all grant Trump another Mulligan while he criminalizes your favorite pastime.

goatman
04-12-2018, 04:19 PM
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Since then times have changed. Al Franken gave up his seat on the Senate in the face of allegations of sexual abuse. Of course this pussy grabbing hypocrite we call our President now will never pay the price: he and his diehard supporters have no honor, no decency, and no sense of shame. So buck up, and face the consequences of your political choices. Let’s all grant Trump another Mulligan while he criminalizes your favorite pastime.

I voted for HER. I've HATED that fake tan dead tribble wearing, narcissistic piece of shit since he tried to put a bounty on the Central Park 5.

natina
04-12-2018, 04:49 PM
The Man got you down?
The mans act of conflation.



women can't control there husbands so they

CONFLATE ,sex traffic minors with consentual sex of adults.



Conflation of child sex trafficking with adult consensual sex acts. Expansion of meaning of sex trafficking.

Older women politicians husbands cheating on them with escorts,lolitas,Young prostitutes,twinks,boys,....


Backpage founder charged by feds after human-trafficking investigation


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/310430001

Backpage seizure by fbi

https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/backpage-service-disruption?utm_term=.qtE3K54mJP&bftwnews#.xu4NdaKAEX


No more "TER" in USA,no more boys4rent,cityvibe

bassman2546
04-12-2018, 05:00 PM
Are you going to defend Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones or no?

No because they have nothing to do with Trump. Stay on topic, please.

Stavros
04-12-2018, 05:13 PM
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. .

Strictly speaking this is not the case. Four articles of impeachment were presented to the House of Representatives but the article claiming the President lied to Congress (Article 4) failed to pass. The House did agree that Clinton had lied to the Grand Jury in the Paula Jones case (Article 1) and that he had obstructed justice in the same case (Article 3).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/impeachvote121198.htm

Politicians who live private lives that to some involve immoral acts, pass laws with moral content, but even in the case of what one assumes are clear violations of the law upon investigation the law is in fact not rigid but flexible. The law is used to ban Craigslist and Backpage on the grounds that advertisements have been used to 'traffic' underage children for sexual purposes. Yet there are numerous states in the USA that permit child marriage, the famous case of the 11-year old in Florida forced to marry the man who raped her being but one example; the other the decision by New Jersey governor to permit child marriage for 'cultural reasons'.

The absence of a consensus on what is moral makes it difficult to frame laws that defend moral acts and condemn immoral acts. Just when you think there can be no opposition to the prohibition of sexual activity between an underage girl and a mature man, you discover it was legal for a 14 year old to marry a 74 year old in Alabama.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/08/child_marriage_is_still_legal.html

http://theconversation.com/child-marriage-is-still-legal-in-the-us-88846

goatman
04-12-2018, 05:17 PM
The Man got you down?
The mans act of conflation.



women can't control there husbands so they

CONFLATE ,sex traffic minors with consentual sex of adults.



Conflation of child sex trafficking with adult consensual sex acts. Expansion of meaning of sex trafficking.

Older women politicians husbands cheating on them with escorts,lolitas,Young prostitutes,twinks,boys,....


Backpage founder charged by feds after human-trafficking investigation


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/310430001

Backpage seizure by fbi

https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/backpage-service-disruption?utm_term=.qtE3K54mJP&bftwnews#.xu4NdaKAEX


No more "TER" in USA,no more boys4rent,cityvibe

COSIGNED. Like I said earlier, Only TWO TYPES OF WOMEN feel threatened by the "Courtesan Class"(read: "escorts): WIVES & MISTRESSES. The ONLY time you'll see both sides team up is against "working girls/bois"

CD_Sasha
04-12-2018, 06:17 PM
What a fucking hypocrite! This doesn't erase all the sexual assaults he's committed - and will continue to commit.

I"m probably going to receive hate but.. There's a dfference between accusations and convictions. Especially when 10-20 year old accusations come SO CLOSE to the elections. Very clear political motive but let's stay on topic. We all agree that this new bill is absolute TRASH and gov't overreach.

BeardedOne
04-13-2018, 12:57 AM
An Ethereum startup is offering $25,000 to the first 10 sex workers who come forward with information about clients who were also members of Congress who voted to pass the Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA) (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate).

The campaign is run by SpankChain, which had its ICO in October (https://medium.com/spankchain/announcing-the-spankchain-ico-234aca56c0ca), and is one of several recent startups for sex on the blockchain (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7ek8/spankchain-bigboobscoin-cryptocurrency-for-porn-startups). The company is attempting to break into the often expensive, discriminatory world (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nz7b4k/how-sex-workers-get-paid) of adult industry payment processing using the blockchain.



Ninety-seven senators voted to pass FOSTA-SESTA in March. It will become law if the president signs it this week. FOSTA-SESTA is a mashup bill that incorporates parts of the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA), and was framed by supporters as an anti-sex trafficking measure. Open internet activists and sex workers (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/neqxaw/sex-trafficking-bill-sesta-fosta-vote) warned it would endanger people more, instead of helping actual victims of trafficking, by making websites more liable for what their users do and say on their platforms. In less than a month since its passage, there have already been repercussions on the industry and beyond—including the shutdown of Craigslist personals (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wj75ab/craigslist-personal-ads-sesta-fosta) and stricter enforcement of Google Drive’s policies (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kgwnp/porn-on-google-drive-error) on sexual content.
Janice Griffith, co-founder of SpankChain and an adult performer, told me in an email that the company hasn’t yet decided what it will do with the information it gathers from this campaign. Whether the information is published will involve a “mutual decision” between SpankChain and the person coming forward, she said.
Read more: From SpankChain to Bigboobscoin, Startups Keep Trying to Get People to Pay for Sex on the Blockchain (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7ek8/spankchain-bigboobscoin-cryptocurrency-for-porn-startups)
“We hopefully plan to utilize information gathered for leverage against elected officials whose political motives are hypocritical and selfish; pushing legislation that endangers instead of protecting–outlawing and putting the same people they purchase services and time from at risk,” Griffith said.



Many lawmakers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal) have resigned (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal) because they’ve preached conservativism to their constituency and pass laws that hurt women while simultaneously practicing the behavior they speak out against. But sex worker-rights advocate Kate D'Adamo told me that SpankChain’s idea could further harm the industry. She said in an email that at first glance, it seems like SpankChain is “capitalizing on the stigma of the sex trade and using it to shame someone, while not caring about the collateral damage that this kind of thing does to sex worker rights.” D’Adamo compared it to the kind of political reward-money stunts pornograher Larry Flynt used to pull (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/kausfiles_special/1999/12/the_pornographer_who_didnt_bark.html) in the 90’s: “This is entirely about being angry about the bill and nothing to do with sex worker support.”
SpankChain says it plans to pay people who do come forward in either USD or Ethereum, whichever the sex worker prefers.
“We want to expose the hypocrisy and corrupt representation that exists within our government, working not to serve the people but attack them for their choices and allow lives lost as collateral damage under a charade of well-intent,” Griffith said. “SESTA does not serve to actually end sex trafficking or forced labor of any kind, rather it pushes consensual workers out of places they have created for themselves and criminals further underground.”

MrFanti
04-13-2018, 01:04 AM
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

And folks are still defending him..

MrFanti
04-13-2018, 01:27 AM
No because they have nothing to do with Trump. Stay on topic, please.
That's ashame that you won't defend them. What's wrong with defending those women?

flabbybody
04-13-2018, 02:08 AM
I"m probably going to receive hate but.. There's a dfference between accusations and convictions. Especially when 10-20 year old accusations come SO CLOSE to the elections. Very clear political motive but let's stay on topic. We all agree that this new bill is absolute TRASH and gov't overreach.
and SESTA passed Senate 97-2. This was not Trump’s agenda

goatman
04-13-2018, 02:51 AM
And folks are still defending him..

Because when one holds a mirror up to the opposition, their claims of "family values" & "moral superiority" fall rather fucking short...
Newt Gingrich? Married 3 times & worthless waste of oxygen,
Ken Starr? How DID he lose his cushy university president's job, again?!
Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter & crew? I've scraped dog shit off the soles of my K-Swiss worth more(& that includes STEVE DOOCEY who got his start being a 3rd rate weatherman in my hometown BEFORE their were FOUR official NETWORKS on the dial!)
And the fruit of their 20+ years of shilling to the hayseeds dwelling in their corn silos in flyover country:
Donald John Trump?
My insults regarding him are LEGION for they are MANY!

MrFanti
04-13-2018, 03:12 AM
Because when one holds a mirror up to the opposition, their claims of "family values" & "moral superiority" fall rather fucking short...
Newt Gingrich? Married 3 times & worthless waste of oxygen,
Ken Starr? How DID he lose his cushy university president's job, again?!
Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter & crew? I've scraped dog shit off the soles of my K-Swiss worth more(& that includes STEVE DOOCEY who got his start being a 3rd rate weatherman in my hometown BEFORE their were FOUR official NETWORKS on the dial!)
And the fruit of their 20+ years of shilling to the hayseeds dwelling in their corn silos in flyover country:
Donald John Trump?
My insults regarding him are LEGION for they are MANY!

Has nothing to do with the WOMEN that were assaulted/harassed.
The women were the victims....and no one stood up for them.

Paladin
04-13-2018, 03:52 AM
I"m probably going to receive hate but.. There's a dfference between accusations and convictions. Especially when 10-20 year old accusations come SO CLOSE to the elections. Very clear political motive but let's stay on topic. We all agree that this new bill is absolute TRASH and gov't overreach.

Not from me you won't.

goatman
04-13-2018, 06:03 AM
Not from me you won't.

Have Gun Will Travel.

filghy2
04-13-2018, 07:41 AM
Has nothing to do with the WOMEN that were assaulted/harassed.
The women were the victims....and no one stood up for them.

If you can point to your previous posts about the victims of Trump, Weinstein, etc then you might have some credibility. Otherwise this is just like your phony concern about alcohol-related deaths in the threads about gun control.

johncock0
04-13-2018, 09:52 AM
If you can point to your previous posts about the victims of Trump, Weinstein, etc then you might have some credibility. Otherwise this is just like your phony concern about alcohol-related deaths in the threads about gun control.

I guess we know who he voted for. lol

MrFanti
04-13-2018, 02:34 PM
If you can point to your previous posts about the victims of Trump, Weinstein, etc then you might have some credibility. Otherwise this is just like your phony concern about alcohol-related deaths in the threads about gun control.
Like I said earlier...the WOMEN were the victims..

If you can't see this, I feel sorry for you if don't have any compassion towards Lewinsky, Jones, and Broaddrick....

MrFanti
04-13-2018, 02:50 PM
y. Otherwise this is just like your phony concern about alcohol-related deaths in the threads about gun control.
Oh and on a personal level to educate you....
My perspectives/stance has to do with the fact that many years ago,I dated a woman who was a victim of rape herself....

Bottom line is that Lewinsky, Jones, and Broadderick were all victims and nobody gave a rats @ass about them!!!

Times are different today than they were back then....but that still doesn't change the fact that all 3 were victims....

filghy2
04-13-2018, 02:51 PM
Why do you continue to single out only those cases? And why do you carefully avoid saying anything critical about Trump? If you have such genuine compassion for victims of sexual harassment, why did you not make a single comment in this thread about Harvey Weinstein? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?104727-Sunset-and-Wein-a-tale-of-old-Hollywood/page8

johncock0
04-13-2018, 04:15 PM
Why do you continue to single out only those cases? And why do you carefully avoid saying anything critical about Trump? If you have such genuine compassion for victims of sexual harassment, why did you not make a single comment in this thread about Harvey Weinstein? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?104727-Sunset-and-Wein-a-tale-of-old-Hollywood/page8
Exactly.

nitron
04-14-2018, 04:58 AM
Anti sex feminists and anti sex puritan's. Odd bed fellows. Would the dems try and reverse this?
Clearly his playing to the moralizing right voters.

Paladin
04-14-2018, 05:11 AM
Have Gun Will Travel.

Have lotsa guns, will travel.


Have gun, will travel reads the card of a man
A knight without armour in a savage land
Paladin, Paladin where do you roam?

someone once sent me a link to the show ending song a while back...

trish
04-14-2018, 06:02 AM
You'll shoot your eye out.

MrFanti
04-14-2018, 06:25 AM
Why do you continue to single out only those cases? And why do you carefully avoid saying anything critical about Trump? If you have such genuine compassion for victims of sexual harassment, why did you not make a single comment in this thread about Harvey Weinstein? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?104727-Sunset-and-Wein-a-tale-of-old-Hollywood/page8
Let me be clear.
Sexual assault/harassment has nothing to do with RACE/POLITICS/RELIGION.
It's the WOMEN who are the victims. It's really that simple.

MrFanti
04-14-2018, 06:45 AM
Why do you continue to single out only those cases? And why do you carefully avoid saying anything critical about Trump? If you have such genuine compassion for victims of sexual harassment, why did you not make a single comment in this thread about Harvey Weinstein? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?104727-Sunset-and-Wein-a-tale-of-old-Hollywood/page8
Oh and tell you what!
If you can agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way, then we can talk.
If you don't agree, then you're just not getting that it's about the women....

peejaye
04-14-2018, 09:55 AM
Why do you continue to single out only those cases? And why do you carefully avoid saying anything critical about Trump? If you have such genuine compassion for victims of sexual harassment, why did you not make a single comment in this thread about Harvey Weinstein? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?104727-Sunset-and-Wein-a-tale-of-old-Hollywood/page8

Probably the same reason why you are continually "bitching" about Trump on here every week but are never critical of Theresa May with exactly the same policies? Fucking hypocrite!

filghy2
04-15-2018, 04:29 AM
Probably the same reason why you are continually "bitching" about Trump on here every week but are never critical of Theresa May with exactly the same policies? Fucking hypocrite!

I could well ask you the same question. Why do you bitch continually about Theresa May and the Tories, but refuse to say a bad word about Trump, Putin or even neo-nazis in your own country? For the record, I'm no fan of Theresa May or her party, but I don't spend much time complaining about them because:
(i) you already have that market well and truly cornered;
(ii) I'm not British and the UK government's actions have little impact outside of the UK, unlike the US government;
(iii) Theresa May is a conventional conservative who does not present the same threat to democracy and the rule of law as a populist demagogue like Trump.

TSLoverIB
04-15-2018, 04:37 AM
Are you going to defend Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones or no?


Exactly, some dirt bags don't know what hypocrisy means, its ok if Billy Clinton does it, but Trump and the freaking worlds in a up roar.

filghy2
04-15-2018, 06:37 AM
Oh and tell you what!
If you can agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way, then we can talk.
If you don't agree, then you're just not getting that it's about the women....

Nice diversionary tactic, but actually it's not about that. The point of this thread is not about how Trump's sexual behaviour compares to Bill Clinton's. It's about whether the current president is a hypocrite in claiming to do things in the name of morality, and whether the so-called Moral Majority types who support him are also hypocrites.

Clinton behaved badly, but at least he wasn't a hypocrite in that way. Where there are credible allegations of illegal behaviour they should be dealt with by the legal system in a non-partisan way, as has already happened with the Clinton allegations. Do you Trump apologists suggest that he should be treated differently?

Stavros
04-15-2018, 09:28 AM
Tedious, but the words mattered at the time as Clinton defined 'sexual relations' as full on sexual intercourse which apparently never happened with Lewinsky (the answer is blowing in the wind). And they mattered because of the precise use of words in court cases as well as the finer distinctions of perjury as a legal term.

Whatever, Clinton has since admitted lying and cannot shake off the stain of that event and the evidence that he was not the best husband, which used to matter to all those evangelical, fundamental or even lapsed Christians for whom God, Family and Country are the Holy Trinity of American values but is now well and truly buried by the semi-literate moron who claims to be the 45th President of the USA. Spare a thought -or don't- for Paula Jones whose account of her 'Clinton moment' is full of holes- there was an out-of-court settlement worth $850,000 -but she only pocketed $250,000 as the rest went on legal fees.

There is also another difference -President Clinton has a political record on which to rest his reputation as President, including transforming the Reagan deficit into a surplus, and three significant peace treaties, whereas his successor so far has added another trillion $$ to the debt, and spent millions of $$ blowing holes in the ground in Syria while transferring even more from tax-payers pockets into his own every time he plays golf.

Morals? What morals?

https://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13221670/paula-jones-kathleen-willey-bill-clinton-sexual-harassment-accusations
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/1998/12/what_is_clintons_perjury_defense.html

peejaye
04-15-2018, 10:19 AM
I could well ask you the same question. Why do you bitch continually about Theresa May and the Tories, but refuse to say a bad word about Trump, Putin or even neo-nazis in your own country? For the record, I'm no fan of Theresa May or her party, but I don't spend much time complaining about them because:
(i) you already have that market well and truly cornered;
(ii) I'm not British and the UK government's actions have little impact outside of the UK, unlike the US government;
(iii) Theresa May is a conventional conservative who does not present the same threat to democracy and the rule of law as a populist demagogue like Trump.

& I'm British so anything else doesn't overly concern me & Theresa May is an enormous threat to this country taking us into a possible toxic situation! If you're not British, keep out of it, I don't know where you're getting your misguided information from?! Your arrogance and supremacy is annoying too.

Stavros
04-15-2018, 10:22 AM
& I'm British so anything else doesn't overly concern me & Theresa May is an enormous threat to this country taking us into a possible toxic situation! If you're not British, keep out of it, I don't know where you're getting your misguided information from?! Your arrogance and supremacy is annoying too.

Don't you Brexiteers want to re-forge our trading relations with the Commonwealth to compensate for our losses from the EU? Australia may become important. Suggest you say something nice about cricket balls and butter, to ease ourselves back into position down under.

johncock0
04-15-2018, 11:13 AM
Nice diversionary tactic, but actually it's not about that.

That's what they're all about and they know it. I guess they need to justify that they're doing the right thing on elections day even if it costs them their freedom. This thread is no longer about the law that trump signed. It's ALL about the Clintons, I guess. :wiggle:

filghy2
04-15-2018, 11:46 AM
& I'm British so anything else doesn't overly concern me & Theresa May is an enormous threat to this country taking us into a possible toxic situation! If you're not British, keep out of it, I don't know where you're getting your misguided information from?! Your arrogance and supremacy is annoying too.

Then why are you posting in a thread that's about a US issue? I'm lucky to live in a country where the biggest national crisis is about 3 guys conspiring to rough up a cricket ball, so other countries' issues are just more interesting. Besides, I enjoy our 'debates' so much - your responses are such brilliant satire.

peejaye
04-15-2018, 11:51 AM
Thanks, that does explain your fucking arrogance! I should of guessed! I only watch cricket when "The Ashes" takes place because of my love for your fucking lot!

MrFanti
04-15-2018, 12:19 PM
Nice diversionary tactic, but actually it's not about that.
Obviously, you just don't get that it IS about the women.
And obviously, you can't agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way..

Sad....

filghy2
04-15-2018, 02:02 PM
Classic Fanti - ignore the other person's response and just keep repeating the same inane point ad nauseum.

Stavros
04-15-2018, 03:20 PM
Obviously, you just don't get that it IS about the women.
And obviously, you can't agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way..


But surely it is about the men? There are legal reasons why Backpage and Craigslist have been taken offline, and they may or may not be challenged in a court of law. But in present circumstances it is the morals and behaviour of men that has become the major issue, and particularly men in positions of power with the money that goes with it.

And with that comes the question, what happens to the institution of government if there is a moral vacuum at the top, or the Chief Executive is morally compromised? And even more so if neither he nor his supporters care about that, because if so, why punish ordinary citizens because their behaviour is considered immoral by people demonstrated to have none of their own?

TSLoverIB
04-15-2018, 07:42 PM
Obviously, you just don't get that it IS about the women.
And obviously, you can't agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way..

Sad....

Well said

MrFanti
04-15-2018, 07:48 PM
But surely it is about the men?
So are you ready to go out on a limb then?
Can you agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over by CLINTON and TRUMP?

MrFanti
04-15-2018, 08:01 PM
Classic Fanti - ignore the other person's response and just keep repeating the same inane point ad nauseum.
So are you ready to go out on a limb then?
Can you agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over by CLINTON and TRUMP?

Really sad if you can't agree....

TSLoverIB
04-15-2018, 08:05 PM
But surely it is about the men? There are legal reasons why Backpage and Craigslist have been taken offline, and they may or may not be challenged in a court of law. But in present circumstances it is the morals and behaviour of men that has become the major issue, and particularly men in positions of power with the money that goes with it.

And with that comes the question, what happens to the institution of government if there is a moral vacuum at the top, or the Chief Executive is morally compromised? And even more so if neither he nor his supporters care about that, because if so, why punish ordinary citizens because their behaviour is considered immoral by people demonstrated to have none of their own?

You are taking about two different things
Morals, and Responsibility

Some of the womnn bill clinton was claimed to have abused , claimed rape and was never heard.
Some of the women bill clinton was claimed to have sexual relations with

The claimed abused, NEVER had their stories told, until recently

The difference, the left, democrats, msnbc, cnn waters do not want people to hear is

All the woman Donald Trump had sexual relations with, was CONSENSUAL, not claiming rape.

Yes, maybe now, we find out he may have paid them off to be quite, but that before he was president.

Some of Bill Clintons women were VICTIMS, Some were not, All of Trumps women, were not, thats the differences.

Yes, the sites are gone...

They were taken down because of the new sex trafficking law, if you host a site, and allow sex trafficking ads, make money off of ads, you get shut down, very simple......

However

If you host dating ads, and monitor the ads, delete the escorts, you can stay up.
Craigslist knew it would be impossible, they took the site down, was not shut down. They knew it would be impossible to filter, monitor that many ads they get daily. Did not want to take the risk of the Govn coming after them.

Some sites, backpage was allowing sex trafficking, ( allowing ), so the Govn shut them down.

Responsibility in the eyes of the Govn is to take down the sex trafficking ads......
Morals, if you feel escorts are ok, but the problem also is people being sold for sex, adults and minors.....

The sites are so big, so much data, so many ads, how can a host monitor all the ads?
Filters, can help, but approving each ad will take forever.

Recently Facebooks mark zuckerburg got grilled by congress, he could not answer how to prevent bad ads from getting on the platform, he states he hired 20,000 people to manage the posts.

He says AI will help eventually, who knows.....

I just want a site similar to CL without all the Govn BS, a site i can post as an adult, a site i can see girls posts as adults, i can contact, we communicate, we can meet, very simple.

I personally, have never paid for a escort, but they have been around since the beginning of time....

MrFanti
04-15-2018, 10:59 PM
...
Bottom line is that they can't stand to put Clinton & Trump in the same context with sexual harassment and assault.
Because.....they still don't understand that it's about the WOMEN....

blackchubby38
04-15-2018, 11:39 PM
Obviously, you just don't get that it IS about the women.
And obviously, you can't agree that Stormy Daniels, Summer Zervos, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick, and Paula Jones were all fucked over in the same way..

Sad....

But were they fucked over in the same way?

Stormy Daniels- Is a grown woman who had a consensual affair with a married man. While I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe her story about someone threatening her about exposing the affair, I wouldn't consider her a victim.

Monica Lewinsky- Was of a legal age when she had a consensual affair with a married man. While one can argue that Clinton used his position of power to take advantage of her and the national ridicule she received was harsh, once again I can't consider her a victim.

I don't know much about the other women, so I can't comment on them.

Queens Guy
04-16-2018, 05:06 AM
and SESTA passed Senate 97-2. This was not Trump’s agenda

Who were the 2? I'm guessing the 1 non-vote was McCain, because of his medical condition

filghy2
04-16-2018, 06:17 AM
All the woman Donald Trump had sexual relations with, was CONSENSUAL, not claiming rape.

Huh? You really are living in a delusional bubble. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/what-about-the-19-women-who-accused-trump/547724/

And you can't even write a sentence in correct English.

MrFanti
04-16-2018, 07:12 AM
Huh? You really are living in a delusional bubble.
And you are letting your political beliefs get in the way of women's rights.
Sad that you can't see that Trump AND Clinton f'd over those women.....

filghy2
04-16-2018, 07:14 AM
Some of the womnn bill clinton was claimed to have abused , claimed rape and was never heard.
Some of the women bill clinton was claimed to have sexual relations with

The claimed abused, NEVER had their stories told, until recently

More rubbish. These allegations were covered extensively by the mainstream media while Clinton was still president. A simple google search would reveal that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Willey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones

filghy2
04-16-2018, 07:24 AM
And you are letting your political beliefs get in the way of women's rights.
Sad that you can't see that Trump AND Clinton f'd over those women.....

If you had bothered to read my earlier post you would see that I acknowledged that Bill Clinton had behaved badly and that any credible allegations of illegal behaviour should be dealt with by the legal system in either case. If you'd bothered to read the post I was responding to you would see that he's denying any wrongdoing by Trump, so why aren't you taking issue with him?

But thanks for proving my prediction right so quickly. I guess you'll ignore what I just said and continue to post the same thing for several more pages.

filghy2
04-16-2018, 07:39 AM
Here's the relevant quote from TSLoverIB's post, Fanti. I look forward to seeing you respond to him in the same terms.

"Some of Bill Clintons women were VICTIMS, Some were not, All of Trumps women, were not, thats the differences."

goatman
04-16-2018, 09:40 PM
If you had bothered to read my earlier post you would see that I acknowledged that Bill Clinton had behaved badly and that any credible allegations of illegal behaviour should be dealt with by the legal system in either case. If you'd bothered to read the post I was responding to you would see that he's denying any wrongdoing by Trump, so why aren't you taking issue with him?

But thanks for proving my prediction right so quickly. I guess you'll ignore what I just said and continue to post the same thing for several more pages.

In OTHER news, Hannity just got outed as Michael Cohen's third client in court during the Storm Daniels' deposition...
...and he's been known to frequent a certain legal establishment in Nevada...

MrFanti
04-17-2018, 03:46 AM
If you had bothered to read my earlier post you would see that I acknowledged that Bill Clinton
My mistake...
But you were avoiding it for so long like a few other people in this thread....

Glad to see that you finally understand that it's about the women and not politics! (Only took a couple of pages though)