is Mia Isabella black?

[holzz]

I always thought she was Hispanic, but on her Twitter she has some family photos and they all look black.

[Torris]

Hispanics can be of any race

[josehip]

loool

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Mixed with a few things. From what I've looked up, she has Jamaican(usually means black) and Puerto Rican(can go either way but PR can be anything) and then French and Native American

[Paladin]

Mixed race, but we don't really need to go into all this x percentage this vs. y percentage that, etc., do we?

[Cereal Escapist]

I guess it depends on your perspective as to whether or not you are going to box someone exclusively into ONE category when they are bi- or multi-racial.

I go back to my example in another thread. Is this a Poodle, a Labrador Retriever or something different than just one of its parts?

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[natina]

I always thought she was Hispanic, but on her Twitter she has some family photos and they all look black.

Likely mixed but not identifying as black

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Mexico & Peru: A Hidden Race

well many african americans have IRISH,scotis,native american,french and spanish roots

Think of the Whitest person you know:Now think of the darkest person you know:
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White

Program: Black in Latin America
Episode: Mexico & Peru: A Hidden Race
Professor Gates explores the almost unknown history their significant black populations: the two countries together received far more slaves than did the United States.
• Visit the Mexico & Peru: A Hidden Race webpage

http://video.pbs.org/video/1915580662/

spaniard is still european;most mexicans or mixed race

spaniard is still european


most mexicans or mixed with african,native american and white or european ............


Mexico & Peru: A Hidden Race

well many african americans have IRISH,scotis,native american,french and spanish roots

Think of the Whitest person you know:Now think of the darkest person you know:
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White

The problem arises because people refer to

hispanics as "the 4th race" when in fact they are a hybrid of the three fundamental races.

But the point with language is that words mean what people mean by them and not a textbook or scientific definition. And in that sense, most people see enough commonality among enough hispanics for the word to have common currency.

So, they become a de facto race.


hispanic's have origin from spain


there are a mix with white,native american,african

The Eyes of Nye - Race


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCDcl9s9Vh4&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzGM1nv_oow&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EyeNi6qsfs&feature=channel

Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey (Part 1 of 13)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6A8oGtPc4&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvS2gjMMXBQ

White skin appeared just 20,000 to 50,000 years ago, as dark-skinned humans migrated to colder climes and lost much of their melanin pigment.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/20-things-skin


see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian


Race is an old concept that should probably be discarded. It was

created by people who had a very limited knowledge of their world. If you

look at any genetic map (mitochondrial or Y chromosome DNA), you can

see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian

race.

Here's a map

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

"I was able to trace the family trees of several prominent people

everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian

can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.


these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx

http://www.africandna.com/

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx


Henry Louis “Skip” Gates, Jr., (born September 16, 1950) is an American literary critic, educator, scholar, writer, editor, and public intellectual.

The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States) is a geneticist and anthropologist, an Explorer-in-Residence at the National Geographic Society, and Frank H.T. Rhodes Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University. He leads The Genographic Project.

Wells also wrote and presented the PBS/National Geographic documentary of the same name. By analyzing DNA from people in all regions of the world, Wells has concluded that all humans alive today are descended from a single man who lived in Africa around 60,000 - 90,000 years ago, a man also known as Y-chromosomal Adam


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells

PBS/National Geographic documentary

The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey

[natina]

Cheap recreational DNA testing can change lives . $69-$150 USA

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she-thought-she-was-irish-—-until-a-dna-test-opened-a-100-year-old-mystery/ar-AAoV9g6?li=BBnb7Kz

[dakota87]

I guess it depends on your perspective as to whether or not you are going to box someone exclusively into ONE category when they are bi- or multi-racial.

I go back to my example in another thread. Is this a Poodle, a Labrador Retriever or something different than just one of its parts?

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i agree with that and I get you But the government, at least in the USA, is very race conscious. WAnna go to school, you have to choose a race. A loan. The census. A job application. A drivers license and so on and so forth.
With so many mixed race people it’s kindnof archaic.

[dakota87]

So if that’s true and all people came from Africa, that would make George Washington our first African American president.
(this post is referencing an earlier post outlining the origin of our species and points to all humanity originAting from the Africa.

[MrFanti]

So if that’s true and all people came from Africa, that would make George Washington our first African American president.
(this post is referencing an earlier post outlining the origin of our species and points to all humanity originAting from the Africa.
Here's some food for thought.
Charlize Theron is African-American.
-Born in South Africa (thus African) and is a naturalized U.S. citizen....(American).

[natina]

Charlize Theron is AfriKann not African and yes! there is a difference

all these were black presidents

based one the 1% rule he was black/african american.

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/product-reviews/1880187000














In actuality, there were as many as 6 U.S. Presidents of Afrikan ancestry prior to mulatto Obama. Keep in mind that although ‘Original' people's skin-tone has the capacity to range from charcoal to chalk complexions without ethnic diluting - during the times of physical slavery and the racist Jim Crow segregation laws, anyone with ‘one drop' of Black blood was automatically, and legally, classified as being ‘Black' or non-white.

In his book – ‘The 5 Negr0 Presidents -Afrikan historian J.A. Rogers writes:


“The portraits of none of the abovementioned [presidents] show the slightest degree of Negr0 strain. But that is certainly not proof. Even before the Revolution many of Negr0 ancestry had become so white that whites who had been kidnapped and sold as Negores could not prove they were really white, the more so that some of them were darker than the bleached Negr0es.”

“It is usual for white writers to condemn offhand the statement that any President could possibly have any degree of Negr0 strain, whatsoever. But it is not possible, without minute tracing of ancestry, to find whether one is ‘pure' white.”

more info : J.A. Rogers, The Five Negr0 Presidents; Auset Bakhufu, The Six Black Presidents - Black Blood: White Masks; and Leroy Vaughn, Black People and Their Place in World History.

http://hiphopwired.com/2011/02/21/is-barak-hussein-obama-really-the-first-black-president-of-the-u-s/

http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Six_Black_Presidents.html?id=lih-QgAACAAJ


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So if that’s true and all people came from Africa, that would make George Washington our first African American president.
(this post is referencing an earlier post outlining the origin of our species and points to all humanity originAting from the Africa.

[MrFanti]

[COLOR=#333333]Charlize Theron is AfriKann not African and yes! there is a difference


It (the country) is "South Africa", not "South AfriKa".

[MrFanti]

[COLOR=#333333]Charlize Theron is AfriKann not African and yes! there is a difference


But,
If you're going to go this route, do you consider people from Egypt and Libya Africans or no?

[Cereal Escapist]

The term African American has been generally accepted to mean only those that are black and it is a blanket statement at that.

Charlize can be called African-American if you so choose because that is the continent she is from but strictly speaking, that is not her race. Her ethnicity is Afrikaner but that is also NOT her race. She hails from dutch people so I beleive she is just Caucasian but who knows if she has anything else in her lineage or maybe she is evolved enough to understand that we are all just people and therefore, all technically "African" since that is where homo sapiens came from.

That said, sticking with convention, there are many non-black African people. Egyptians are African but I'd bet you can't find many that want to be called African-American as they likely see it as a term for black. The blatant problem is that the use of a continent's name in someones "racial group" is obviously as erroneous as using a country's name.

Here is the issue. Pradeep from Dell tech support, with his head-bopping, curry eating and kama-sutra loving turban is anthropologically Caucasian but tell that to Sven from Norway or Presidet Drumpf and see how much they disagree.

A lot of folks can't handle it don't like it when others don't fit in a tidy little box they learned when they were 5.

[MrFanti]

The term African American has been generally accepted to mean only those that are black and it is a blanket statement at that.

Charlize can be called African-American if you so choose because that is the continent she is from but strictly speaking, that is not her race. Her ethnicity is Afrikaner but that is also NOT her race. She hails from dutch people so I beleive she is just Caucasian but who knows if she has anything else in her lineage or maybe she is evolved enough to understand that we are all just people and therefore, all technically "African" since that is where homo sapiens came from.

That said, sticking with convention, there are many non-black African people. Egyptians are African but I'd bet you can't find many that want to be called African-American as they likely see it as a term for black. The blatant problem is that the use of a continent's name in someones "racial group" is obviously as erroneous as using a country's name.

Here is the issue. Pradeep from Dell tech support, with his head-bopping, curry eating and kama-sutra loving turban is anthropologically Caucasian but tell that to Sven from Norway or Presidet Drumpf and see how much they disagree.

A lot of folks can't handle it don't like it when others don't fit in a tidy little box they learned when they were 5.

A Black person born in France is a European....A White person born in Zimbabwe is African......A person born in California is an American......A Black person born in Cuba is Cuban....

[Stavros]

Charlize can be called African-American if you so choose because that is the continent she is from but strictly speaking, that is not her race. Her ethnicity is Afrikaner but that is also NOT her race. She hails from dutch people so I beleive she is just Caucasian but who knows if she has anything else in her lineage or maybe she is evolved enough to understand that we are all just people and therefore, all technically "African" since that is where homo sapiens came from.
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This is the sort of confused nonsense that exposes the idiocy of race as is implied at the end of your post. It may be interesting, but is all but irrelevant if 'we' are all descended from humans that originated on what is now the African continent, as the crucial issue is about human evolution and development, and how or why, or even if 'we' have developed in different ways, why the colour of our skins is different, why some of us eat with knives and forks while others eat with chopsticks, not to mention the differences and similarities in language.

Mia Isabella is what she is, you either think she is gorgeous or you don't, and my guess is that most people who see her photos and watch her movies are not focused on her 'race' but on something else. I wonder what that might be?

[Cereal Escapist]

Mia Isabella is what she is, you either think she is gorgeous or you don't, and my guess is that most people who see her photos and watch her movies are not focused on her 'race' but on something else. I wonder what that might be?

i don't watch her videos so what does that say about me?

[Cereal Escapist]

A Black person born in France is a European....A White person born in Zimbabwe is African......A person born in California is an American......A Black person born in Cuba is Cuban....

you are talking nationality, which is even more irrelevant than "race" or "ethnicity" since borders change and through naturalization and willful cultural adpotion, nationalities change too.

neither of my parents were born in the US and both came here in the 1960s. They became naturalized citizens and spent most of their lives in this country. Their kids are born New Yorkers. For nearly 60 years my parents embraced American culture and norms forthwith so if you asked them both, they would say they were American.

Also your post is quite inconsistent. If:

1) A person born in California is an American
2) A Black person born in Cuba is Cuban,

then why isn't the black person born in France, just French and the white person born in Zimbabwe, just Zimbabweian? Zimbabweite? a Zimbabweiner? Why use the continent in some cases and the country in others? And before you get your panties in a twist, no other country in the Western Hemisphere refers to themselves as "American" though they are in the Americas.

[MrFanti]

you are talking nationality,

Which is exactly what African American and Charlize Theron are.

[alcoolsrimbood]

she light-skin....down south its high yella.....

[holzz]

This is the sort of confused nonsense that exposes the idiocy of race as is implied at the end of your post. It may be interesting, but is all but irrelevant if 'we' are all descended from humans that originated on what is now the African continent, as the crucial issue is about human evolution and development, and how or why, or even if 'we' have developed in different ways, why the colour of our skins is different, why some of us eat with knives and forks while others eat with chopsticks, not to mention the differences and similarities in language.

Mia Isabella is what she is, you either think she is gorgeous or you don't, and my guess is that most people who see her photos and watch her movies are not focused on her 'race' but on something else. I wonder what that might be?
because it's wrong to be curious, is it not?

because it's wrong to ask question, is it not?

because it's wrong to ask stuff, that gets on your goat. i just luagh, since some old man "upset" at what I say is pretty comical......

and yes, i find her hot too. and with any person whom one admires, there is nothing wrong in being curious about her background.....

but that's nice. i'll take note that some 60-something old man's perceptions on what is good content matters.....

[MrFanti]

Gotta' love this label society that we're in!

[Cereal Escapist]

Someone needs to capitalize on this phenomena...might as well be Avery

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[natina]

Mia is a Red bone snitch.

Daylight,I used a condom
and still that shit don't feel right!

RedBone

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWGpgGdR9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWGpgGdR9s