Ginuwine is in trouble on Celebrity Big brother

[retroboy]

Apparently not wanting to be kissed by a transgender female is trans-phobic because Ginuwine didn't agree to it. It is these kind of extreme views that SJW's espouse which give transphobes license to say their is a gay agenda.


http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/01/07/cbbs-india-willoughby-branded-a-victim-after-being-rejected-by-ginuwine/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fn0anHLRbI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fu3j8SAL3g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW6ORWYn3g0

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Racism is more acceptable than LGBTphobia. Also, nobody ever gives a shit about male victims of assault/ harassment. Nobody cares about the fact they this woman violated G's personal space and consent. She was white and trans and he's a black man. He didn't stand a chance. Let Ginuwine pull some shit like that with a woman. His ass would be even more toast than he is now. Hell, let ANY man pull that shit.

#himtoobutnobodygivesafuck
#timesupjustkidding

[jesi_j]

i agree with the breakfast club, she was out of line

[giovanni_hotel]

Some trans-activists are using the term transphobic too loosely.

Not being attracted to someone doesn't mean you're a bigot.

[natina]

Ginuwine is married and so what if he's not attracted to any transsexuals at all.

[Yepyepp]

Same trolls wi August Ames blood on their keyboard??

Shit's ridiculous - this is the same society that shutdown Munroe Bergdorf trying to explaining the binding nature of social mechanisms borne of this axis' ugly history, too many of you don't get the H&M controversy profoundly enough, and try to make issues of gender politics preeminent to those of race just to practice cognitive dissonance

In the same world as Harvey Weinstein, how can anyone genetically male be in the right trying to stick it on Ginuwine, much less if they weren't - I love tgirls, but I don't get everyone I know that likes amazon black girls to suck Suzanna Holmes too �� this shit's crazy yo, and I doesn't help the LGBT agenda

[Ben in LA]

racism is more acceptable than lgbtphobia. Also, nobody ever gives a shit about male victims of assault/ harassment. Nobody cares about the fact they this woman violated g's personal space and consent. She was white and trans and he's a black man. He didn't stand a chance. Let ginuwine pull some shit like that with a woman. His ass would be even more toast than he is now. Hell, let any man pull that shit.

#himtoobutnobodygivesafuck
#timesupjustkidding
truth

[MrFanti]

Some trans-activists are using the term transphobic too loosely.

Not being attracted to someone doesn't mean you're a bigot.
Labeling a person is the easy way ostracize someone that has a different perspective....

[gaysian71]

Ginuwine? Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Who the hell is he? I sure hope his mama didn't give him that name.

[natina]

Elgin Baylor Lumpkin, better known by his stage name Ginuwine, is an American singer, songwriter, dancer and actor. Ginuwine began his career as a member of Swing Mob in the early 1990s.


Awards and nominations Edit

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner


Soundtrack Edit

Men in Black: The Album – "I'm Feelin' You" (1997)
Dr. Dolittle – "Same Ol' G" (1998)
"Romeo Must Die" – "Simply Irresistible" (2000)
Barbershop – "Stingy" (2002)
Juwanna Mann – "Star Spangled Banner" (2002)
Filmograph

Filmography Edit

Juwanna Mann (2002)
Honey (2003)
Never Ever Let You Go
Parks and Recreation (2014)
Chocolate City (2014)
Chocolate City : Vegas Strip (2017)
Awards and nominations Edit

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginuwine

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Ginuwine? Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Who the hell is he? I sure hope his mama didn't give him that name.

You're one of the few to not know who he is

[retroboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnoG2dsUk0

[retroboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIvOf0Xmzo

[Gillian]

You're one of the few to not know who he is
Dream on ... ;)

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Dream on ... ;)

You're one of the few to not know who he is

[Gillian]

You're one of the few to not know who he is
I make a point of finding out as little as possible about vacuous, hip-hop, rapping non-events with daft names ... ;)

[bassman2546]

I make a point of finding out as little as possible about vacuous, hip-hop, rapping non-events with daft names ... ;)

Me too, and add non-daft names while you're at it. I don't get hip-hop as much as I don't get the kindergarten level lyrics of country music.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I make a point of finding out as little as possible about vacuous, hip-hop, rapping non-events with daft names ... ;)

He's not rapper, he's a singer that sings, not raps. Natina even posted about it on the last page.

But as expected, y'all think all we know how to do is rap. :)

[Stavros]

If you like it, put a wig on it?

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/46075cc072484a7ae1f64f8acc42b244?width=316

[Aticus100]

I think India willoughby is a terrible representative for trans people in this instance. What a shame they could find someone trans who was cool, gorgeous and grounded for the show to help people understand that trans people are just people.

Instead the found someone who is an arrogant, self obsessed fucking dickhead and a desperate victim to boot. Oh, and throw in completely ungrateful if the efforts of those that have brought about the levels of acceptance that have resulted in her being on the show. Utterly vile person.

[tacocorpv2]

You're one of the few to not know who he is

They are using the term celebrity loosely for this show... and I mean the rest of the cast as well, all are random news people or worse.

[natina]

Celebrity big brother Ginuwine is a multi Platinum award winning R&B artist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnoG2dsUk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKH7Lm4IXM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DHpUtOcwhyU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tW5JtR7xomc

[natina]

If you like R&B you Know who he is.

If you seen Men in Black and many block buster movies you heard his music even if you don't know who he is.


He is an R&B artist and not a rapper.!!!!

Country music was not charting and so many artists switched to Pop,R/B,fusion....

Like Taylor Swift for example.!

Charting means you are making big dollars $$$$$$$$$$$$$ basically you have commercial appeal.





Elgin Baylor Lumpkin, better known by his stage name Ginuwine, is an American singer, songwriter, dancer and actor. Ginuwine began his career as a member of Swing Mob in the early 1990s.


Awards and nominations Edit

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner


Soundtrack Edit

Men in Black: The Album – "I'm Feelin' You" (1997)
Dr. Dolittle – "Same Ol' G" (1998)
"Romeo Must Die" – "Simply Irresistible" (2000)
Barbershop – "Stingy" (2002)
Juwanna Mann – "Star Spangled Banner" (2002)
Filmograph

Filmography Edit

Juwanna Mann (2002)
Honey (2003)
Never Ever Let You Go
Parks and Recreation (2014)
Chocolate City (2014)
Chocolate City : Vegas Strip (2017)
Awards and nominations Edit

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginuwine

[natina]

It's not a dream cause he is a multi talented Platinum Artist with 100's of Millions of dollars in sales and endorsements.

Even Rock&Roll had a big slump of sales but R/B and rap,hip hop sales have big going strong.




Dream on ... ;)

[natina]

If you like it, put a wig on it?

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/46075cc072484a7ae1f64f8acc42b244?width=316




Award winning artists doesn't have to kiss that! To show he's not transphobic

Awards and nominations Edit

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner


Soundtrack Edit

Men in Black: The Album – "I'm Feelin' You" (1997)
Dr. Dolittle – "Same Ol' G" (199
"Romeo Must Die" – "Simply Irresistible" (2000)
Barbershop – "Stingy" (2002)
Juwanna Mann – "Star Spangled Banner" (2002)
Filmograph

Filmography Edit

Juwanna Mann (2002)
Honey (2003)
Never Ever Let You Go
Parks and Recreation (2014)
Chocolate City (2014)
Chocolate City : Vegas Strip (2017)
Awards and nominations

Grammy Awards
2014, Best R&B Album: "Three Kings" (Nominated)
BET Awards
2003: Best Male R&B Artist, Nominated
American Music Awards
2003: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2002: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
2000: Favorite Male R&B Artist, Nominated
Soul Train Music Awards
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Single ("So Anxious"), Nominated
2000: Best R&B/Soul Male Album (100% Ginuwine), Winner

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginuwine

[natina]

Riddle me this how many singles,records or songs can Shelf sell? Probably a few hundred causing a negative ROI.


The chances of you getting mass appeal as this artist is like 1 in 25 Million or 1 in 175 Million.
Like in winning the lottery.

You are like the Amish in pop culture! But you are I assume a transsexual.

[Stavros]

If you like R&B you Know who he is.


You miss the point- these so-called 'celebrities' are nobodies if we don't know anything about today's R&B scene, and more pertinent still, whoever these people are, and I have never heard of most of them, they are uninteresting to most people who watch tv as the programme can barely scrape in a million voyeurs and is rumoured to be axed after this series. One wonders why this vulgar trash is even on terrestrial tv when it can be relegated to the outer fringes of the internet and nobody would notice.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

You miss the point- these so-called 'celebrities' are nobodies if we don't know anything about today's R&B scene, and more pertinent still, whoever these people are, and I have never heard of most of them, they are uninteresting to most people who watch tv as the programme can barely scrape in a million voyeurs and is rumoured to be axed after this series. One wonders why this vulgar trash is even on terrestrial tv when it can be relegated to the outer fringes of the internet and nobody would notice.

Ginuwine has been out for well over 20 years. His biggest hits are from the 90s and early 2000s and thats why he is known, so he's not today's R&B scene.

[natina]

No I get the point. Shelf is saying all R&B and hip hop is that V word without listening to it with a open mind and ear. Then representing thereself as a transsexual/transgender and wanting everyone to keep a open mind about them being a "women" and having feelings of being a women yada yada yada....Ect

I smell a hyocrite so I am calling shelf one.
Just the idea that people called hip a Rapper shows the bias.!

Ginuwine is a great role model and not involved in any scandals. In fact he is considered a Big Brother!

A bigger celebrity then shelf will ever be.

Your in Scotland,you should go to Mississippi are Utah and see how you get treated there...


U.S. Supreme Court Leaves Intact Mississippi Law Curbing Gay Rights

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-supreme-court-leaves-intact-143335424.html


Oh your gonna say your not gay but many communities consider you just a man in a wig/dress.
Don't go into the ladies room are even the men's restroom.

[natina]

He not a nobody because he has already made it!
Worth Millions​ in a Capatilist​ society.

Won Grammy's and many awards, donated to charity.....

He's famous,known by Millions without playing your preferred genre of music.



You miss the point- these so-called 'celebrities' are nobodies if we don't know anything about today's R&B scene, and more pertinent still, whoever these people are, and I have never heard of most of them, they are uninteresting to most people who watch tv as the programme can barely scrape in a million voyeurs and is rumoured to be axed after this series. One wonders why this vulgar trash is even on terrestrial tv when it can be relegated to the outer fringes of the internet and nobody would notice.

[Stavros]

He not a nobody because he has already made it!
Worth Millions​ in a Capatilist​ society.
Won Grammy's and many awards, donated to charity.....
He's famous,known by Millions without playing your preferred genre of music.

So what? Whatever he has achieved is of little value in a crap tv show that has marginal viewing figures. It makes you wonder why these successful people lock themselves into shared accommodation with people they would not normally associate with. In fact, it now appears this may be some kind of retirement home rehearsal gig. Had it been possible, Elvis would surely have been one of the first in da house, eh? And that would not make his muzak any more attractive to the human ear.

[natina]

His music was placed on "men in Black" sound track , he's got residual income from many tv and movie block buster franchises.Efforts to reach Ginuwine, whose net worth celebritynetworth.com estimates to be $11 millionSinger, songwriter, dancer, and model, Ginuwine has an approximate net worth of $15 million. Born on October 15, 1970 as Elgin B. Lumpkin, he is more commonly known as Ginuwine and comes from Washington D.C. He is named after Elgin Baylor, an NBA legend who was also born in Washington.He started his music career in the mid-1990’s when he was signed by the Epic records. This was after graduating from Prince George’s Community College where he was pursuing a paralegal associates degree. He released his debut single in 1996 with lots of participation by Timbaland, another successful musician. Since then, he has released many platinum and multi-platinum singles and albums. In 2002, he was featured in a comedy film called Juwamanna Mann as a basketball player. Many of his songs have done well in the top-twenty R&B hit song charts.

[natina]

$16x2,000,000.00++=$32,000,000.00++
Plus touring,sound track,radio,tv, movies ancillary.....

Certification is often awarded cumulatively, and it is possible for a single album to be certified silver, gold, and platinum in turn. An album that becomes Platinum twice over, for example, an album which has sold 2,000,000 copies in the United States, is said to be "Double-Platinum", or sometimes "Multi-Platinum".

[natina]

Reality TV is big $$$$$$$$

Look at Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton......
And many more.
Today is s different genre then when Elvis was alive. Much of that music would not sell in today's pop music genre. The style is different.old timers like Elvis.
Music that's popular is more of a fusion with different genres mixed in.

Even the remaining Beetles star consultant with top hip hop and R&B​ producers like Kanye West, Pharrell Williams,Missy Elliot.......

Hip hop does better fused with Rock&Roll Band music,that's the trend now.





So what? Whatever he has achieved is of little value in a crap tv show that has marginal viewing figures. It makes you wonder why these successful people lock themselves into shared accommodation with people they would not normally associate with. In fact, it now appears this may be some kind of retirement home rehearsal gig. Had it been possible, Elvis would surely have been one of the first in da house, eh? And that would not make his muzak any more attractive to the human ear.

[natina]

Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JphDdGV2TU

Orchestra version of rap hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59e20ijOpE

Amish version (when I locate it again)

[natina]

Baby got backs worth over $1000,000,000.00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O86IC6ddm8

Many cover the hit rap song

[natina]

Sir mixalot,baby got backs worth over $1 Billion as a single alone because of it's success and him allowing anyone to cover it.

Country music version + more LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMg316-SCT4


Still looking for the Amish version but found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vj4TmesuBg

[Stavros]

[QUOTE=natina;1814363
Ginuwine has an approximate net worth of $15 million. .[/QUOTE]

So what is he doing on a freak show on Channel 5? Is he that desperate for attention? It can't be for the money.

[broncofan]

Racism is more acceptable than LGBTphobia.
Not being interested in transsexuals is certainly not transphobic but I don't really see the value in pitting two different prejudices against one another as though they compete for a finite resource. This only leads to more prejudice generally. The problem I gather from the first post seems to be that someone has been accused of transphobia who was not transphobic, not that people are too concerned about transphobia.

I am of course interested though if you think that he's only being accused because he's black and it's not just someone who is (extremely) wrong..that's of course relevant.

[trish]

Apparently not wanting to be kissed by a transgender female is trans-phobic because Ginuwine didn't agree to it. It is these kind of extreme views that SJW's espouse which give transphobes license to say their is a gay agenda.

Someone might not want to be kissed for any number of reasons. Maybe they’re germophobic, or maybe they just don’t like being casually kissed by strangers. Not wanting to be kissed by someone because they’re transgender does, however, indicate a degree of discomfort (if you don’t want to call it a phobia). It’s far from extreme to make the observation. Nor would it have been extreme had Ginuwine been allowed his personal space without getting all political on him, if only he had been politic enough not to let his reasons be known.

On the bright side there are now three or four more people on HA alone who now know these celebs by name. In the end, ain’t that what it’s all about?

[broncofan]

Nor would it have been extreme had Ginuwine been allowed his personal space without getting all political on him, if only he had been politic enough not to let his reasons be known.
Unfortunately she asked him whether he would date a transsexual. When he said no she was already determined to call him transphobic. I understand your point about the word phobia, and though I think fear or discomfort can be a defining feature, the word might also connote irrational animus. We've had a number of conversations about sexual orientation on this forum and most believe that being attracted to trans v. cis women at least bears on that determination whatever the final answer is (please god let's not discuss it). I don't think his unwillingness to date a transgender woman indicates prejudice.

I see her as having interrogated him so she could call him prejudiced without reason.

[trish]

I don't think his unwillingness to date a transgender woman indicates prejudice.
Definitely agree. Nothing in the story as told indicates this is the case.


I see her as having interrogated him so she could call him prejudiced without reason.

Probably so, but if true, why? I mean there was a reason for her action. Retroboy calls her an SJW and seems to think that explains it. I think is a poor characterization and no explanation at all. So what’s her motivation? Is it a conflict of personalities? Jealously? Is she hurt? Is it just press for the show? I’ll admit, I’m out of my depth here. Never so much as seen a clip of Big Brother till now. So I’ll shut up for now.

[broncofan]

Probably so, but if true, why? I mean there was a reason for her action. Retroboy calls her an SJW and seems to think that explains it. I think is a poor characterization and no explanation at all. So what’s her motivation? Is it a conflict of personalities? Jealously? Is she hurt? Is it just press for the show? I’ll admit, I’m out of my depth here. Never so much as seen a clip of Big Brother till now. So I’ll shut up for now.
I don't know and agree there are lots of possibilities. Personally I think she wanted to highlight the prevalence of discrimination against transsexuals and there is no better way to do that than to find a real life example. It is not uncommon for someone who wants to highlight a systemic prejudice to identify a concrete example. The problem though is that what she identified was not in most people's view prejudice, and it stigmatized someone who did nothing wrong and who did not even invite the line of questioning or the wrong conclusions she drew from it.

But I don't know and I put this out there as one possibility among many possible motivations.

[Username13]

This whole thing is dumb. I keep seeing these headlines that there is a big outcry against Ginuwine, but almost everything I see supports that Ginuwine did no wrong.

[tacocorpv2]

Someone might not want to be kissed for any number of reasons. Maybe they’re germophobic, or maybe they just don’t like being casually kissed by strangers. Not wanting to be kissed by someone because they’re transgender does, however, indicate a degree of discomfort (if you don’t want to call it a phobia). It’s far from extreme to make the observation. Nor would it have been extreme had Ginuwine been allowed his personal space without getting all political on him, if only he had been politic enough not to let his reasons be known.

On the bright side there are now three or four more people on HA alone who now know these celebs by name. In the end, ain’t that what it’s all about?

Yeh, I don't mind R&B but i didn't know about Ginuwene, now I do... damn, actually turns out I knew some of the songs even, just didn't know the artist.... as for the miss India.. well I don't know maybe if it was you wanting to kiss him he wouldn't mind, I for sure would be glad! Would not want miss India to kiss me either though. :D

[blackchubby38]

Definitely agree. Nothing in the story as told indicates this is the case.



Probably so, but if true, why? I mean there was a reason for her action. Retroboy calls her an SJW and seems to think that explains it. I think is a poor characterization and no explanation at all. So what’s her motivation? Is it a conflict of personalities? Jealously? Is she hurt? Is it just press for the show? I’ll admit, I’m out of my depth here. Never so much as seen a clip of Big Brother till now. So I’ll shut up for now.

The main reason why people, celebrity or otherwise, go on reality shows is to become famous and/or to re-ignite their fame. If you look through the history of reality shows, there has always been a cast member who has done something to standout from the rest of the pack. I think India's moment was trying to get the most famous person on the show to kiss her.

Now did she do this knowing full well Ginuwine's reaction would have made him look bad and make her look like a "victim"? Only she knows that. But the fact that she was interrogating him before attempting to get a kiss from him tells me that she was trying to get some type of reaction from him in order to have her moment.

[natina]

Ginuwine was the victim of a sexual assault by India and unwanted sexual advances.

Shaming someone because they rejected you is making a hostile environment at the work place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW6ORWYn3g0

[natina]

India Willoughby

India Willoughby is Britain's first transgender television newsreader and the first trans panellist on Loose Women.
Born as Jonathan Willoughby, she began her career on ITV in 20

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[natina]

Ginuwine

American singer and songwriter Ginuwine is best known for his multi-platinum single 'Pony' released in 1996


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnoG2dsUk0


Remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW5JtR7xomc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gKH7Lm4IXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHpUtOcwhyU

[natina]

I don't know that it is " freak show", that's your opinion. Many people think any transgender is a freak show, flamboyant gay male, sodomite ........Ect...

He is worth more then a New York Dime.
So he doesn't have to work.
Interest on $10 Million at just 5% is enough to live on it's $42,000/month that's $42K a month.
That's $10K/week


And he has residuals from a few successful franchises​ like
Men in Black.


So what is he doing on a freak show on Channel 5? Is he that desperate for attention? It can't be for the money.

[pimpgreen8989]

I wouldn't kiss that bitch either and I love trannies.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Transgender aside, she ain't even attractive in her glamour shots.

[xuto]

Drop it. Please.

[natina]

Sexual harassment and a hostile work environment