I'm Gay

[alpine]

I realized last week that I am gay. It's a bit exciting and nerve wracking at the same time.

lol, just felt like getting that info out there. I don't anticipate 'coming out' any time soon.

Anyone know any good gay forms. Something of the same calibur as hung angels - a mix of both discussion and porn.

see ya.

[canihavu]

SMH...

[peggygee]

I sincerely would like to say that I am happy for you, and glad that you are happy with yourself.

A closet, is a very small place to spend a lifetime in.

Follow your bliss.

Be safe.

:)

[bunzy]

I realized last week that I am gay. It's a bit exciting and nerve wracking at the same time.

lol, just felt like getting that info out there. I don't anticipate 'coming out' any time soon.

Anyone know any good gay forms. Something of the same calibur as hung angels - a mix of both discussion and porn.

see ya.

Don't worry buddy you are not alone, 80% of the members on this forum are gay too, but most of them just don't admit it!

[jowwor]

80 % are gay is a very general statement, but it may be true...is it perhaps more neuanced than that?

Question: Is it possible to want to be a woman, primarily like girls (or transsexuals), but also some men, ie. classify oneself as a " transgendered lesbian" of some sorts with bi tendencies towards men, or is that just too weird? Sincerely... need an answer to that. Is it perhaps more common than I think?

Gender issues does not necessarily have anything to do with sexual preferences, do they?

-Q-

[starshine_tara]

My understanding is that sexual orientation and gender are different and separate. You can be either gender and still be gay, straight, or bi. (That's based on the assumption that a shemale is female in gender - even though she still has male equipment).

Tara xxx

[hondarobot]

I hope this "guys turning gay" thing doesn't continue to spread. I dont think I could make it through watching Torch Song Trilogy, personally.

[Quinn]

LMAO @ this thread. Does this mean we all have to go see Brokeback Mountain while wearing Richard Simmons t-shirts?

-Quinn

[jowwor]

80 % are gay is a very general statement, but it may be true...is it perhaps more neuanced than that?

Question: Is it possible to want to be a woman, primarily like girls (or transsexuals), but also some men, ie. classify oneself as a " transgendered lesbian" of some sorts with bi tendencies towards men, or is that just too weird? Sincerely... need an answer to that. Is it perhaps more common than I think?

Gender issues does not necessarily have anything to do with sexual preferences, do they?

-Q-

I CAN GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO BOTH QUESTIONS, BUT I REALLY LIKE IT FIRST, IF YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU, LOL.
I "came out" 20 % about a year ago as "gay", 80 % as "straight" and I am 100% in love with a few Tgirls... ;) As to my question of gender identity, that is 100 % confidential, but I like myself 20 % of the time... ;)

-Q- 8)

[mellowsoundsofdeflowd]

This is my first post, but this seems like an appropriate place to start.

I'm gay too, I just realized it after graduating from college these past few months. I've been interested in transsexual porn my entire adolescence and post adolescence (thank god for the internet) and now I finally understand why.

This is not to say everyone feels the same way I do, but this is who I am.

[BeardedOne]

My mother always thought I was gay because I consistently dated dykes. Go figure. :shrug

The last time someone asked me if I was gay, I thought about it for a moment and replied: "Personally, I think I'm rather morose". :)

[hondarobot]

I hope this "guys turning gay" thing doesn't continue to spread. I dont think I could make it through watching Torch Song Trilogy, personally.lol ~ Start out slow... maybe you should tap your feet to the Village People a little, and see how you feel then.

"Young man!..." :wink:

Oh, you woudn't believe the number of times I've had to press play on a Village People CD. Many years of gay pride hooplay. It's my job.

Honestly, I have nothing against gay men or women. I don't care about gender preference identity, gay people are just doing their thing.

But if you're a guy on this forum, and you like the girls, you're probably not gay. Or you are and just dont understand your gender preference. Gay men dont find girls attractive, because they are gay.

TS girls are not men. Just liking cock is a fetish. Gay guys dont find girls attractive. It's just common sense.

I'm sure this topic will be revisited endlessly.

As always.

[hondarobot]

Double post. What's up with that lately?

[werwt22]

I have no attraction to men whatsoever or crossdresser's, only transgender. For me it is merely a fetish. This has been argued plenty of times between all types of people, but I know I'm not confused, I've actually had a relationship with a "tgirl". "In my eyes", they are women with slightly different features which adds to the excitement, but still just a fetish.

Whoever has the next post...... is GAY!!! :P :P :P

[sbcroix]

This is a forum for guys who love cocks on women. But many transsexuals feel that being born with a cock was some kind of mistake. However, because they like how their cock feels, they may want to keep it. Who they're sexually attracted to is another topic altogether.

Men who love cock, regardless of gender identity, enjoy what is commonly termed "homosexuality". But in that case, sodomy is probably a more technically accurate definition because it removes gender from the equation. Btw, "gay" has become almost as much of a lifestyle or sub-culture word as it is a sexuality.

Wrong... Every guy likes cock. Why else is the money shot called the money shot. Why do we see cocks so much in straight porn.

It's not homosexuality, its just sexuality. Also FYI. Tranny porn is considered a STRAIGHT Fetish by the adult film industry as well as most psychologists, very few consider it gay.

[suckseed]

Now that, "Am I gay?" has been beaten into submission, and this thread will be a little long in the tooth soon, may I suggest some good future threads?
"How gay am I?"
"I'm REALLY gay!"
"I'm gayer than you!"
"I dance around in my sister's underwear watching that guy with the painting show!"
"I've got a bowling pin in my ass!...and I want MORE!"

Soon, we're going to have to have a forum just for further discussion of this.

I realized something today. I haven't come here for masturbatory fantasy material in probably a year.
I don't understand suddenly realizing one's sexual preferences. If I'd ever
stopped being attracted to women, that would be like suddenly realizing,"Hey! I haven't eaten in days....and I'm not even hungry!"
If I ever found myself fantasizing about men, that would be a pretty big sign to me. I mean, are you guys coming to this realization after years of thinking about it, or what?

[scorpion]

Here wee go again..gay or bi or maybee straight. Some likes ggirls and are also attracted by tgirls. Some"as mee" by men and tgirls but not ggirls ...and then wee have the real lucky ones as like mens girls and trannys.
Anyway welcome out of the closet alpine.
About the Village People...didnt they came out as hetrosexualls four some year ago? :roll:

[Quinn]

:lol:

[hondarobot]

Well, I guess that settles that. Free to be you and me.

But if we're going to be the Village People, I want to be the indian (I mean native american).

:roll:

[yodajazz]

It is natural that this discussion would continue to pop up on this forum. But I believe, with evidence, that no one is really 100% straight or gay, but on a continuim like the Kinsey scale. So therefore those label are in fact useless, especially for this forum. When people say they are straight, the real meaning is that their preference is more on the straight end of the scale.
An example I use is vegetarians. Some who call themselves that eat fish and chicken. Some eat no meat mostly, occaisionally will eat a meat product. Some would eat a vegetable fried with cooking oil containing meat fats, etc. So if someone comes to your home to eat and says they are vegetarian, you still need for them to define what products they will eat. It is the same with a sexual partner. No matter what their so called label each person has to define what it is that turns them on.
I myself know that I am not 100% straight, but it is too hard to explain color in a black and white world, so I dont use a label to describe myself.

[mellowsoundsofdeflowd]

yeah when i say i'm gay, I mean that doesn't mean if I find a woman attractive I'll decide not to pursue her because "I'm gay." I'm just begining to acknowledge the fact that I am not a straight male, and I do find men attractive. Perhaps I am bisexual, perhaps I'm gay, or likely some combination of homosexual and heterosexual desire. I'm just giving out the label of gay to enable others to better understand me.

But I mean I don't really understand myself all that well at this point, so you can take whatever i say with a grain of salt if you'd like.

[werwt22]

TS PORN IS GAY. EVERYONE WHO LIKES TRANNIES IS GAY. I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD. WHY ¿ BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE. WE ARE WHAT WE DO, NOT JUST WHAT WE SAY WE ARE. NOT ALL OF US ARE 100% GAY, BUT NO ONE IN HERE CAN BE 100% STRAIGHT. THERE IS A KINSEY SCALE, IN CASE SOME OF YOU DID NOT KNOW.

HUMAN ATTRACTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PHYSICAL THING FIRST, NOT AN EMOTIONAL OR SPIRITUAL. SOME OF US MAY JUST BE ATTRACTED SEXUALLY, BUT DO NOT WANT ANYTHING ELSE TO DO WITH A TRANNY. AS HARSH AS THAT IS, IT'S THE TRUTH. IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN MAYBE IT COULD BE CONSIDERED JUST A FETISH. BUT EVEN IF IT IS, IT IS STILL A SLIGHTLY GAY FETISH.

THE NON-TRANSGENDERED MALES WHO PERFORM IN SHEMALE PRON, AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, CANNOT BE 100% STRAIGHT, NO MATTER HOW STRAIGHT THEY TRY TO ACT. BASED ON HOW SOME OF THEM ACT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE GAY INCLINATIONS. MAYBE THEY DO NOT LIKE TRANSSEXUALS PERSONALLY, BUT SEXUALLY THEY DO NOT SEEM TO MIND; BECAUSE THEY LIKE SUCKING THE TRANNY'S PENIS AND DO NOT MIND GETTING IT IN THE BUTT EITHER.

P.S. I SAW OPRAH YESTERDAY AND IT WAS PROVEN THAT THE KINSEY SCALE HAS SOME MERIT.

Sry...your speakin for yourself on that one buddy. Do you know how many guy's take it up the ass wih a strapon from their wife or gf to spice up their sex life. Just depends on how freaky you are. Just b/c that's not typical of heterosexual sex doesnt mean it makes you gay if you carry out those acts. All about pleasing your partner. And we are not all gay. Reality is perception, and if i logically percieve a TS to be a woman then what's wrong with that? How would that make me gay? I dont sleep with men nor have the inclination to. Theres no attraction there. TS are a seperate entity to me. Kinda like a void if you will.....for lack of a better word. I like TS like I like breast. Just a different type of experience with a "woman" in my eyes.

[BeardedOne]

Many a smug asshole will assume that you're confused if you say you're bi anyway.

That would, of course, be the New York Times.

[flabbybody]

hanging out at the entrance of Vapor chatting with the amazingly gorgeous Dina, I couldn't help noticing the endless stream of guys forking over their dough to enter the party. All different sizes, shapes, ages, colors, nationalities. All with one thing in common: we seek the company of tgirls. Why must some folks feel compelled to analyze sexual orientation and announce their homosexuality?

If you're really troubled about the idea of being gay, I honestly think there are more appropriate forums

[Coroner]

:lol: sorry, nerd, you´re not supposed to say that we´re all gay just because you think that way. i know that i´m not gay, cause i love t-girls but not men. and i´m sure that a gay male doesn´t want to sleep with t-girls. he wants a man, because he´s GAY. but, if you´re into both, males and shemales, you´re totally bisexual. and that´s a difference. i think i´m straight and i feel straight. i love shemales and "real girls", too. there´s no doubt for me what i want and i don´t want a man. sorry but some of the gay guys who´re here with us seem to talk about her wishes.

seen that show with gia darling in the tyra banks show? shit i was shocked after seeing the picture when she was a man. i shouldn´t have seen this.

[mellowsoundsofdeflowd]

I by no means think everyone on this board is gay, and I'm not going to try and psychoanalyze desire for transsexuals. But introducing the concept of homosexuality might be beneficial for some closeted people who peruse this board. Maybe it will raise questions that have been repressed in some people and growth will result because of it. That's why this is an appropriate forum.

Whoever has the next post...... is GAY!!! :P :P :P... and I'll prove it when I'm fucking you. I KEED! I KEED! ;)


Is that a promise? :)

[sbcroix]

I'm not going to debate what the definition of homosexuality is with you. Look it up, genius. ;)

Oh and FYI, sexual intercourse is not a fetish. :P

Homo = "Same" Sex = Sex

Therefore the defination is "Samesexual"... So are you telling me that you and all the other Girls like you are men?

[dav1313]

congrats on finding yourself, man. i gave up on labels for myself, i tried the gf thing and i tried the gay thing, and i found i like to fuck. hot girl, hot guy and especially in between. bi or better yet omni sexual is the way 2 go.

[ezed]

Labels are useless, they're developed by people who are insecure and want to know there are people of a similar ilk who they can draw on for support when they are challenged by small minded bigots, spigots, or frigit's who are very insecure. We are what we are, we crave what we crave. There are not enough labels to classify or analyze anyone. Labels make it easier for the analysts. Not for the Analyzed. There are people who must put everyone in a box. So they can sleep.

We are gay, bi, straight, tg, tv, cd, post op, pre-op. Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Buddist, Hindu, White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Preppy, Baby Boomer, Generation X, Senior Citizens, Republicans, Democrats, Moderates, Conservatives, Liberals, Ultra right Conservatives, Ultra left Liberals, moderately right liberals, Independants, French, Irish, Italian, Swedish, Latvian.....you get my drift. If you ask youself, you really don't know what you are. Nor should you care. You are you and as long as you're not a pedophile or into beastiality or a person into physicaly hurting people, you're ok in my book.

Put away the Genco Label Makers and take people at face to face value and not on what is written because humans have not yet been enabled to convert the totallity of their thoughts into written word.

Now that this has been said,,,,,,,who wants to suck, fuck or otherwise titilate each others genatailia.

That was corny.

[ezed]

That was corny.

if you're talking to me, so be it! It was corny, who give a shit.

[lahabra1976]

well labels are useless for real, but it allows us to talk about things like this, labels are just ways for us humans to organize the world so things can be more easily learned and communicated

[steeleyscott]

i am extremely attracted to Ts/ shemales i love the way they look and it arrouses me alot when i see them naked, even more so than a naked female, however i am not attracted to the way a man looks in anyway and when i think of having sex with a man it does absolutely nothing for me.

what does this make me ? and am i alone ? :oops:

[shutheight]

Within this thread, there are a few that get it...

It is not about a definition or diagnosis.

We now live in an age where personal freedom and medical technology allow us to be satisfied.

I have been with my girlfriend for six years. A clue for those who cannot digest the past, she was born a man. She lived a difficult life as a man for quite some time. She also made some significant decisions about her body. To that point, she was considered gay and has maintained most of her friends. Those who may not know, transition is difficult, hurtful, painful, and expensive(!!!!!) Can you imagine having breasts and five o'clock shadow? It can be debilitating. Most people who have gender dysfunction (pardon my denotation) survive within their own circle of trust. To think one can be gay and freely assimilate with their neighbors are a cherished few. Most T(add your suffix) people continue to maintain their relationships with gay men and T(add your suffix) people. It is about acceptance. This boundary may account for the objective man who has “just found his gayness” statements associated with the OP. This whole argument is not about dick or pussy, gay or straight… It’s about arousal and commitment.

Those we now love (or jack-off to) have worked very hard and spent a pile of money to obtain their look. We can look at "after” pictures and make assumptions that she has been what we see for ever... wrong... wrong... I have seen my girlfriend from baggy jeans and a t-shirt, facial shadow, awkward shaved eyebrows, to painful surgery, to.... oh, crap... I'm about to cry.

If you like it, and maybe love it, you are who you are. You are not gay. You are not straight. You are not definable, yet, you love who you love. You "like" what you "like." Whack away. You may or not be gay.

Have you ever smoked bearded sausage? Hmm... Not that gay, eh?

[KidInACandyStore]

i am extremely attracted to Ts/ shemales i love the way they look and it arrouses me alot when i see them naked, even more so than a naked female, however i am not attracted to the way a man looks in anyway and when i think of having sex with a man it does absolutely nothing for me.

what does this make me ? and am i alone ? :oops:

My two cents....Sometimes you feel like a nut, some times you don't. :anon

[atkms7]

to be honest, i think you should fuck who you wanna fuck, touch who you wanna touch and kiss who you wanna kiss, who cares if that brands you as a homo, bi or hetero, anything between 2 (or more) (:, consenting adults is great. sometimes i feel like i wanna bang the fuck out of a hot chick, and sometimes id rather suck a tranny's cock or get fucked by one, to be completely honest i dont think anybody should give a fuck of how it brands them, cause for me, i D.G.A.F

[BeardedOne]

My two cents....Sometimes you feel like a nut, some times you don't.

Yah, that works for me. :D

[Vicki Richter]

My contempt and dislike of the gay lifestyle has gotten me into trouble posting here in the past. I don't really care for the gay fruity guys or their need to fuck every other guy humanly possible. I also don't care for their "in your face" fruity way of dressing and talking. To me, I totally support someone's choice to be gay. I would never hate someone so much as to want to hurt them because they are gay. However, I don't think I would go out of my way to find gay friends or what not.

Personally, I don't see the relationship between gay and being a fan of transsexuals. If your fascination is simply with cock then you are much better off going gay. You can probably get free cock 7 days a week by 10 different guys a day and they'll all think you're great. That as opposed to being into TS or shemale girls who will more than likely charge you just to have dinner 9 times out of 10.

Even the girls who enjoy their shecock will more than likely consider getting it replaced someday. Do you think girls tuck it back like they do because they are proud of it?

Anyway - so congrats that you decided you're a fag. I say fag in the appreciative sense of the word, not the derrogatory sense. You can hang out on gay.com and mingle there with people like you. There is even a transgender chat room there if you get lonely for when you weren't quite gay yet. However, now you can put on a tutu and march in parades, bring a purse to a gay bar while sporting a 5'o'clock shadow, and own small dogs without caring what people think. You're only decision now is whether you want to be a faggy (said in the derrogatory way) pathetic skipping around gay boy or a normal, cute, but unobtainable to women type of gay guy. As a woman, I'm a fan of the latter, but to each their own.

V

[Quinn]

My contempt and dislike of the gay lifestyle has gotten me into trouble posting here in the past. I don't really care for the gay fruity guys or their need to fuck every other guy humanly possible. I also don't care for their "in your face" fruity way of dressing and talking. V

I don't necessarily have contempt for the "gay lifestyle," but I agree with what I interpret to be the tone of this post. Being gay is fine, however, turning it into a whole identity and culture doesn't seem to make much sense, to me. Speaking for myself, if I was attracted to men and chose to fuck men, why would I choose to alter my style of dress, speech patterns, and gestures. Why would I want to choose fucking men as my identity. To be blunt, I wouldn't. From my perspective, choosing to define yourself by your sexual preference is the result of a limited and shallow perspective. I'm not saying there aren't times where you may need to choose a label to explain something, but building a whole identity around such a minor consideration seems excessive.

It has been my experience that continental Europeans are much more sensible about this than Americans. "Gay," in Europe is definitely different than in the US. Still, if it works for a person and makes them happy, I guess they have to go with it.

-Quinn

[shutheight]

My contempt and dislike of the gay lifestyle has gotten me into trouble posting here in the past. I don't really care for the gay fruity guys or their need to fuck every other guy humanly possible. I also don't care for their "in your face" fruity way of dressing and talking. To me, I totally support someone's choice to be gay. I would never hate someone so much as to want to hurt them because they are gay. However, I don't think I would go out of my way to find gay friends or what not.

Personally, I don't see the relationship between gay and being a fan of transsexuals. If your fascination is simply with cock then you are much better off going gay. You can probably get free cock 7 days a week by 10 different guys a day and they'll all think you're great. That as opposed to being into TS or shemale girls who will more than likely charge you just to have dinner 9 times out of 10.

Even the girls who enjoy their shecock will more than likely consider getting it replaced someday. Do you think girls tuck it back like they do because they are proud of it?

Anyway - so congrats that you decided you're a fag. I say fag in the appreciative sense of the word, not the derrogatory sense. You can hang out on gay.com and mingle there with people like you. There is even a transgender chat room there if you get lonely for when you weren't quite gay yet. However, now you can put on a tutu and march in parades, bring a purse to a gay bar while sporting a 5'o'clock shadow, and own small dogs without caring what people think. You're only decision now is whether you want to be a faggy (said in the derrogatory way) pathetic skipping around gay boy or a normal, cute, but unobtainable to women type of gay guy. As a woman, I'm a fan of the latter, but to each their own.

V

Wow. You were once a boy? Or, today, just a pocher? If you were ever the boy you had to be, you must have had some pretty straight left-wing friends. I can hardly picture a transsexual bigot.

[Vicki Richter]

Wow. You were once a boy? Or, today, just a pocher? If you were ever the boy you had to be, you must have had some pretty straight left-wing friends. I can hardly picture a transsexual bigot.

I think you mean straight "right wing" friends. That would be true. I honestly don't know what a pocher is.

My opinion is that I am supportive gay people. However, I really fail to see the overlap between TS and gay people. Gay guys have their drag queens but the overlap stops there. To me, coming into a TS board and hyping your gayity is the same as going to a Christian board and telling everyone you've come to realize you're an Orthodox Jew. It's like going into a vegetarian forum with a recipe for BBQ ribs. To me, maybe not to you or to others, it is that different. It's like - "good for you, but why do I want to hear about it?" So you realize you want to suck off men and take it in the ass from men and prance around on 4th street singing show tunes. Great.

I told you, I totally support gay people and their ability to express themselves and be who they are. I said --I-- had dislike and contempt for the gay lifestyle, not for them as individuals. I don't that that should put me in the classification as a bigot.

Wow. You were once a boy? Or, today, just a pocher? If you were ever the boy you had to be, you must have had some pretty straight left-wing friends. I can hardly picture a transsexual bigot.

I think you mean straight "right wing" friends. That would be true. I honestly don't know what a pocher is.

My opinion is that I am supportive gay people. However, I really fail to see the overlap between TS and gay people. Gay guys have their drag queens but the overlap stops there. To me, coming into a TS board and hyping your gayity is the same as going to a Christian board and telling everyone you've come to realize you're an Orthodox Jew. It's like going into a vegetarian forum with a recipe for BBQ ribs. To me, maybe not to you or to others, it is that different. It's like - "good for you, but why do I want to hear about it?" So you realize you want to suck off men and take it in the ass from men and prance around on 4th street singing show tunes. Great.

I told you, I totally support gay people and their ability to express themselves and be who they are. I said --I-- had dislike and contempt for the gay lifestyle, not for them as individuals. I don't that that should put me in the classification as a bigot.


You seem to be one of the more stable, better wrapped girls on this board.

In the words of Homer Simpson "Yeah! Those are exactly my sentimonies!"

[scorpion]

Many intressting personal thinking.
vicki one of my big favorites..Im sorry to say this but. you havent right about what you say... I know my self.
the overlap dont stop whit the drag queens.. not four al.
Four the 100eme times I see my self as a gay. I started my sexuall life whith guys. Of course I tryed whith girls. But they didnt turn mee on. The 10 latest year I have started to meet trannys.. Yes they attract mee. so I have been whit some and have my relations whit some AND I HAVE EVEN BEEN MARIED whit a tranny.
Okey maybee im diffrent now my partner is a crossdresser... never mind about it.
What I wanna say is some of os gay persons are real atracted to trannys but should never go to bed whit a gg.
And once again Vicki You avatar is fantastic

[tg4me]

Nicely put Vicki. I offer this rather long adventure because it covers many of the post here. In the fetish club world, (25 yrs exp), it is normal to see M/F,F/F, but almost never M/M. I enjoy playing with F/Doms and subs. Over the last few years, strap-ons have come on the scene.(there's a joke in there somewhere) I did that a few times, then one day discovered Foxy Angel's website in our local paper. I found my self completely turned on by her. She is in fact the first 'person' with a cock I ever had fantasies about. Times were tight, didn't have a couple hundred to spend on T-girls,stripclubs,escorts,etc. So I figured I could go to one of the Gay leather clubs,some place called RamRod I think...(really) and play. Perhaps I would meet a nice person and satisfy my new obsession for sucking/being fucked by a real cock instead of a rubber one. Man it was just not my scene. Lots of muscle guys in leather,etc. I talked to a few guys. I was somewhat of a curiousity to them. It was my first time in a real gay bar. I asked if they knew of any T-girl clubs. Not-a-one of them had a clue! Why would you want a guy that looks like a girl? They were dumbfounded. Totally cool and friendly but, I saw nothing there that turned me on even a little. In fact watching guys french kiss each other, was kinda gross to me.
Later I found out about Trixie's in the same area. Foxy Angel was having a party! I went there and had a blast! Hot-looking girls batting their eyes at me, kisses on the cheek. Angel was way better looking in person. She was kind and I loved the whole scene...except for the big lips/big boobs type of girls. I even won a jjett/vicki DVD! I went to the second party and was sure Angel would be my first(if she would have me). A week later I got a job offer and now I'm in Wash DC, making better money. I joined SER and have been looking on Eros for that girl that trips my trigger. I found this site a couple of days ago. I've mostly enjoyed Sunny's party photos. I see that I am another one who instantly focused in on Tracey, but NY is a pretty long haul on a tuesday night.

So I'm ready to play. I'm even ready to pay:~) Now it just finding the kind of girl that looks like the GG types that turn me on. Angel made a comment to me that made a lot of sense. (prettty close to a quote) She thought that many of the t-girl lovers were in fact ultra-heteros. We are so obsessed with female beauty that even a guy that looks like a GG is a turn-on. I think she was closer to defining my desires than someone defining me as gay. I sculpt girls,draw girls, spank girls,worship girls. And now even the one's with cocks.

[BeardedOne]

Coupla short notes:


I can hardly picture a transsexual bigot.

Bigots come in all shapes, sizes, colors, genders, and transgenders. The one thing that can't be considered a bigot is bigotry itself.

That said...

I understand where Vicki is coming from and it's not, IMHO, bigotry but a discomfort of the behaviour, not the person or lifestyle, that she has a distaste for. I've been to Gay Pride, the March on Washington, gay this, gay that, so I really have no problem with gays or the gay lifestyle, but if one 'swishes' up to me and sez something like "Oh, Mary! What a lovely thuit your wearing!" with all the limp-wrist affectations that accompany that stereotypical image, I'm more than likely to take a step back. Even then, I've had some very 'swishy' friends that I was just fine with, so it's all relative.

Oh, and for the record, I know at least one transsexual bigot, so they are certainly out there. :?


And, btw, why can't you spell the simplest of words yet; like "me", in English? Seems kinda' fishy...

Ari, how appropot a comment. Babel Fish (Altavista) can be quite confusing/entertaining. While Scorpion has had some posts questioned, I find that his overall performence is genuine.

[BeardedOne]

A P.S.:


But I have to ask you this again: what is up with the homo-erotic, muscular drawing of Jesus?

Izzat Jesus? Take a closer look, it appears to be just a nude male bracing against two walls.

As to its meaning, to him, you, or the rest of us... :shrug

[callahac]

80 % are gay is a very general statement, but it may be true...is it perhaps more neuanced than that?

Question: Is it possible to want to be a woman, primarily like girls (or transsexuals), but also some men, ie. classify oneself as a " transgendered lesbian" of some sorts with bi tendencies towards men, or is that just too weird? Sincerely... need an answer to that. Is it perhaps more common than I think?

Gender issues does not necessarily have anything to do with sexual preferences, do they?

-Q-This is a forum for guys who love cocks on women. But many transsexuals feel that being born with a cock was some kind of mistake. However, because they like how their cock feels, they may want to keep it. Who they're sexually attracted to is another topic altogether.

Men who love cock, regardless of gender identity, enjoy what is commonly termed "homosexuality". But in that case, sodomy is probably a more technically accurate definition because it removes gender from the equation. Btw, "gay" has become almost as much of a lifestyle or sub-culture word as it is a sexuality.

I think you are dead on here. I love cock- be it on a shemale or a guy, but I'm not into the "gay lifestyle" at all. If I hook up with a guy it is only because I need to suck a dick or get my ass pounded. I am not looking for romance, love or companionship.

[BeardedOne]

But I just wonder if he's even aware of how glaringly out of place his avatar would seem. This is a forum that's supposedly celebrating pre-op TS WOMEN.

Well, it does qualify for the pre-op part. :wink:

[yosi]

I write in this forum because I love SHEmales.
SHE = feminine = woman.

I loved being fucked by a shemale because it makes me feel good.
I also love to treat and respect her like the lady SHE is.
I love HER feminine beauty
and I love the woman side of her.

I don't care how it labels me
all that I know is that I am satified with the way I am and that's enough for me 8)

[Shadow Dragon]

sorry to stray off the current discussion but this has been bugging me for awhile

i honestly dont know what i am...so im open to opinions

im not gay per say...i dont do sexual activities with other guys (i have and highly disliked it) so i obviously enjoy activities with girls, which basically indicates im straight but heres where it gets confusing...i enjoy the thought of being with a shemale more than the thought of being with a girl. not only that but ive also heavily considered becoming a shemale/transexual myself but figured it was too late to do so and consider myself attractive enough (in my own opinion) as one of the two because of my physical structure.

any thoughts?

[scorpion]

Ariana wrote:

Scorpion, you are the only person here using the image of a muscular man for your avatar pic, so I'd assume you're missing the point of tbis entire forum. :shock:[/quote]

Yes Ariana I am. I do it beacause Im not a tranny But I love them.
My avatar symbolise mee. Thats why I have a muscular man four avatar.

[suckseed]

Dude.
Me, not mee.
For, not four.
Good, not god, (or vice versa)
What is up with the spelling? I'm not being hostile, I like your posts generally, but, c'mon. Your English is fine. Way better than my Italian! You're almost there...just give it that little extra effort!
(And I only posted in this damn thread because it's already in the number two slot.)
Number two, indeed.

[Shadow Dragon]

Maybe it's related to this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogynephilia

hmm...thats a very good possibility

[Dasnasdi]

I love Vicki Richter!

If people just want to live their lives, and be left alone, I completely respect that.

M2F transexuals don't want to change the world, they simply want to blend in with the female population. I support this 100%, and I don't see why anyone wouldn't.

A conservative is, by definition, an opponent of societal change. And since transexuals are not trying to change society, conservatives should not have a problem with them.

As for the activist segment of the gay community, though, I see many reasons why they should be vigorously opposed:

They demand change so that gays will feel less marginalized. They try to become part of the mainstream, by barging their way into it. They demand the "right" to be openly abnormal, to flaunt it even, and not be criticized.

They claim to be victims of denied rights, but anyone who thinks they will cease their activism if they are issued marriage licenses is not dealing with reality. Their actual agenda is to purge our culture of all stigma related to them, and they will use any means, including television and the courts, to this end.

I think that people should be free to accept what the want to accept, and to not accept what they do not want to accept. Infringing upon this freedom is wrong, whether it be by court order against "hate speech" or by the entertainment industry slipping attempts to influence public opinion into their entertainment. We've all had them bring gays into our living rooms, portrayed as normal and non-threatening. This subtile and dishonest attempt at manipulation needs to be pointed out and denounced.

[hondarobot]

I love Vicki Richter!

If people just want to live their lives, and be left alone, I completely respect that.

M2F transexuals don't want to change the world, they simply want to blend in with the female population. I support this 100%, and I don't see why anyone wouldn't.

A conservative is, by definition, an opponent of societal change. And since transexuals are not trying to change society, conservatives should not have a problem with them.

As for the activist segment of the gay community, though, I see many reasons why they should be vigorously opposed:

They demand change so that gays will feel less marginalized. They try to become part of the mainstream, by barging their way into it. They demand the "right" to be openly abnormal, to flaunt it even, and not be criticized.

They claim to be victims of denied rights, but anyone who thinks they will cease their activism if they are issued marriage licenses is not dealing with reality. Their actual agenda is to purge our culture of all stigma related to them, and they will use any means, including television and the courts, to this end.

I think that people should be free to accept what the want to accept, and to not accept what they do not want to accept. Infringing upon this freedom is wrong, whether it be by court order against "hate speech" or by the entertainment industry slipping attempts to influence public opinion into their entertainment. We've all had them bring gays into our living rooms, portrayed as normal and non-threatening. This subtile and dishonest attempt at manipulation needs to be pointed out and denounced.

Honestly, "Gays" are normal and "non-threatening". But your post is pretty amusing.

Look out! A fag might be right behind you! You gotta watch out for that stuff. Those fuckers are probably trying to make you gay, too.

Just say No.

Good grief. Excuse me, but I have to go fuck a stripper.

[SexxxyJade]

I have been on this forum for a longtime now and this is a subject that often comes and goes. Labels are somthing I try not to get into. Like ive said before if you are attracted to somone rather they be black or white or male, female, transgender, or monkey, if your attracted to them then go for it. Society is too caught up on labels which often times influences our actions.
Lets get off this thing of if we are gay or bi or str8 or watever and just be happy with whomever we choose to be with at the time. This subject will come and go just like the wind and everyone is still gonna have different opinons and views. Its kind of like "Is there really a God?".. no one really knows its just up to you to believe what you feel.

[hondarobot]

Well said Jade, good to see you around again. Labels are bullshit.

But I do gotta go fuck this stripper tonight. See ya all tomarrow.

:wink:

[Dasnasdi]

What he seems to be unaware of is, there are so many rightwing, socially conservative gay men. He's portraying them all as Liberace or something. :lol:
I'm not talking about every single gay person. My post clearly said, "the activist segment of the gay community".

[Dasnasdi]

Look out! A fag might be right behind you! You gotta watch out for that stuff. Those fuckers are probably trying to make you gay, too.
You bet they are trying to make me gay, despite my objections. And every other t-chaser. Numbers are very important to these activists. Claiming t-chasers, bisexuals, and any other group they can think of, are gay, is just a way of inflating the numbers. Numbers are also why it's no longer the gay community, it's the glbt community. Can you think of any groups with less in common, and less reason to associate, than gays and lesbians?

But I'm glad you brought up the issue of recuitment. Clearly gay activists do recruit. No, they are not going to try to turn a straight person gay, but they do reach out to the "queer and questioning", including queer and questioning youth. A TS I once dated told me how the gays in her high school told her that they thought she was one of them.

An adolescent (and any other sexually confused person) needs to be left alone to discover their sexuality for themselves. "Have you ever thought you might be gay?", is a potentially disasterous question to ask. It plants an idea. Adolescents already do way too much unhealthy experimenting with sex.

[ezed]

I have been on this forum for a longtime now and this is a subject that often comes and goes. Labels are somthing I try not to get into. Like ive said before if you are attracted to somone rather they be black or white or male, female, transgender, or monkey, if your attracted to them then go for it. Society is too caught up on labels which often times influences our actions.
Lets get off this thing of if we are gay or bi or str8 or watever and just be happy with whomever we choose to be with at the time. This subject will come and go just like the wind and everyone is still gonna have different opinons and views. Its kind of like "Is there really a God?".. no one really knows its just up to you to believe what you feel.

Perfectly said Jade, couldn't have said it better. But as you can see from subsequent posts, it has been largly ignored. But not by me.