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DQ/CD are for the most part the same thing to me; (gay) men who dress up part time, for either performance or sexual kink.
Still doesn't make them transgendered.

Is there a real distinction between MTF transsexuals and transgendered women?? This is a semantical argument IMO. If there is a difference in terms of appearance, I'd like to know.
Again you're presenting PICTURES, not asking people to interpret an individual's psychological identity.

SO yeah I use TG and TS interchangeably. I have yet to hear any woman on this board feel the need to 'correct' me.

Finally, we're talking about TG/TS/TV/CD/DQ in the context of PORN. The appearance of a TG/TS under this framework is what matters most, not ultimately who they are on the inside.

Early transition TS/TG don't fit the image of what most men consider to be transgendered women (in porn), that's why many of us call them TV/CD; men dressing as women for the kink or the hustle, but not a part of their identity as transgendered women.

No you can't see it. No you can't know from looking at a picture. Which is why I don't even know why you're still continuing in this brain dead exercise.

In porn and for those of us that only have pics to base our opinions on, I and many others prefer to see tgirls who have significantly transitioned their physical appearance to match their internal psychological state.

I don't need to see pics of what I consider to be men and my being told by someone like you Grooby that they are in fact transgendered women, or could be.

That's great. But no one is trying to SEE that. We want to see trans-WOMEN.
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Somewhat bizarrely I dont think 18 is photoshopped. One of the few I've seen in video in movement and that's actually what they look like ... heaps of make-up of course. When Krissy is finished with her comp thing I'll post a link because it's one of the most bizarre cross-cultural things I've ever seen.
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TG stands for transgendered which is an umbrella term for all gender variant people.it includes transsexuals but also androgynous people, inter sex, cross dressers, and pretty much anyone that dont fit traditional gender roles.
a transsexual is someone who not only feels like they are the opposite gender than they were born but they also often feel compelled to change into their desired gender through the use of medicine and surgeries.

all this can be found on wikipedia guys.google is really your best friend lol

"Transgender (pron.: /trænzˈdʒɛndər/) is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies to vary from culturally conventional gender roles."
"Transsexual people identify as a member of the sex opposite to that assigned at birth, and desire to live and be accepted as such."
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4. Doesn't belong - too draggy.
5. Doesn't belong - too draggy
I love both. They look like they could pretend to be very bad girls for the camera.
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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel View Post
DQ/CD are for the most part the same thing to me; (gay) men who dress up part time, for either performance or sexual kink.
Still doesn't make them transgendered.

Is there a real distinction between MTF transsexuals and transgendered women?? This is a semantical argument IMO. If there is a difference in terms of appearance, I'd like to know.
Again you're presenting PICTURES, not asking people to interpret an individual's psychological identity.

SO yeah I use TG and TS interchangeably. I have yet to hear any woman on this board feel the need to 'correct' me.

Finally, we're talking about TG/TS/TV/CD/DQ in the context of PORN. The appearance of a TG/TS under this framework is what matters most, not ultimately who they are on the inside.

Early transition TS/TG don't fit the image of what most men consider to be transgendered women (in porn), that's why many of us call them TV/CD; men dressing as women for the kink or the hustle, but not a part of their identity as transgendered women.

No you can't see it. No you can't know from looking at a picture. Which is why I don't even know why you're still continuing in this brain dead exercise.

In porn and for those of us that only have pics to base our opinions on, I and many others prefer to see tgirls who have significantly transitioned their physical appearance to match their internal psychological state.

I don't need to see pics of what I consider to be men and my being told by someone like you Grooby that they are in fact transgendered women, or could be.

That's great. But no one is trying to SEE that. We want to see trans-WOMEN.
Since Amberskyi already noted the difference between the TG / TS thing, I will not go into that. Personally, I don't care either and use both terms... some people feel very strongly about it though... It was just more of an FYI and to further the point that these terms are not as well defined and accepted as you would believe.

I understand the context of porn... I've already conceded that point in an earlier post in the other thread.

So, the rest of your post is understandable given your aforementioned definitions. I understand that and although I don't agree and can state my opinions, you are free to do so as well... agreed? I will try to educate as I can (and I don't mean that condescendingly AT ALL) and you're free to comment back. I get your point of view... I just don't like it.

In your last sentence, you said this:
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We want to see trans-WOMEN...
In the previous sentence you said this:
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I don't need to see pics of what I consider to be men...
The key here is "I CONSIDER". It is a subjective opinion. In other words, it doesn't matter what YOU CONSIDER... the people are STILL TS (at least presenting that way... which I think you agree... you cannot make an accurate distinction that they are in fact, telling the truth or not just by a picture, set of pictures, or a video).

If I were to say, "People who call themselves Black but have fair skin are not really Black," there would be an outrage.

This is no different. It is that simple. We've yet to get to that point (where the two equate) but it is simply no different. Regardless of the medium (porn), you should still respect the presentation (identity) of the people involved, and NOT make that distinction based upon pictures (and publicly state it... again, not intended for you since I can't recall you having done that).
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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel View Post
DQ/CD are for the most part the same thing to me; (gay) men who dress up part time, for either performance or sexual kink.
Sorry...missed this. Again, pointing out the Drag Queen reference was basically to point out, in part, that these terms are not as well defined as you'd think. Call a Drag Queen a "crossdresser" and you'll most likely get a stiletto in your eye. Although technically true, the term "crossdresser" is largely viewed as derogatory. Call a TS (regardless of transitioning status) a Drag Queen and you'll find you've offended the TS AND the Drag Queen. Go figure that one out!

And again... you are not quite as up on these terms as you think. A CD is typically NOT gay. It is a sexual kink. The two terms are DEFINITELY not interchangeable.

See how complex these waters are! It is just not as simple as you'd think to separate everyone out into neat, little categories, but yes, I understand you have your own set of opinions and definitions. I'm just telling you what is more "accepted" terminology.
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Originally Posted by alpha2117 View Post
Somewhat bizarrely I dont think 18 is photoshopped. One of the few I've seen in video in movement and that's actually what they look like ... heaps of make-up of course. When Krissy is finished with her comp thing I'll post a link because it's one of the most bizarre cross-cultural things I've ever seen.
18 is not photoshopped as far as I know except for maybe some brightening. I, personally, like I stated earlier, did nothing to these pictures except to make them similar in size.

BTW... none of the pictures are digital, "faked", or photoshopped, as far as I know. Possibly number 4... but I have seen actual pictures that are that good so I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by amberskyi View Post
TG stands for transgendered which is an umbrella term for all gender variant people.it includes transsexuals but also androgynous people, inter sex, cross dressers, and pretty much anyone that dont fit traditional gender roles.
a transsexual is someone who not only feels like they are the opposite gender than they were born but they also often feel compelled to change into their desired gender through the use of medicine and surgeries.

all this can be found on wikipedia guys.google is really your best friend lol

"Transgender (pron.: /trænzˈdʒɛndər/) is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies to vary from culturally conventional gender roles."
"Transsexual people identify as a member of the sex opposite to that assigned at birth, and desire to live and be accepted as such."
Transgender - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks. You stated this so much more succinctly than I would have.
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1. Lily McBeth - Noted TS
2. Martin Cohn - Male Model
3. Luiss San Marguia - Male Model
4. Megan - Drag Queen
5. Unknown Drag Queen (on drag queen related website)
6. Daisy - Drag Queen
7. Danielle King - Noted TS Activist
8. Lucy Smith - Controversial TS (NHS incident)
9. Jan Morris - TS Author
10. April Ashley - Noted TS
11. Elderly Lady (genetic)
12. Sarah - TS (post FF surgery)
13. Norma Ballhorn - Controversial Crossdresser
14. Cathy - TS (TS dating site)
15. Amanda Simpson - noted TS
16. CeCe McDonald - Convicted TS murderer
17. Julia Oliver - TS, consultant (defunct)
18. Yohio - Swedish male, CD
19. Susan - TS (pre FF surgery) Same person as 12.
20. David Paris - Male Model
21. Daniela Sea - Genetic Female (Actress)
22. Young Lady (genetic)
23. James Varley - Male Model
24. Unknown Drag Queen - Taken from Drag Queen related site
25. Aya Kamkawa - TS - Noted Japanese TS
26. Drag Queen - Tim
27. Elderly Lady
28. Elderly Lady
29. Bill Kaulitz - Male Model
30. Andrej Pejic - Male Model (had to keep this small because of recognition factor)

There you go! How did you do?
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