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    Default Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    OK, for those of you who missed the fine reading in the other thread, and for anyone else:

    Here are some pictures.

    Please determine for me, if being TS was THE ONLY (that is... looks were not the issue) qualification for being on a TS porn site, who would belong on it?

    You can number sequentially from left to right, top to bottom.

    For those who say you can differentiate a non-TS person from a TS person... this should be interesting to see how you categorize these individuals, which are all (or are they?) a mixture of women, men, TS, TV and a few ?? thrown in. Some you might know and thus be easy.

    No fair running to Google and searching through pictures... since you should be able to distinguish based upon looks alone. You're on your honor for this.

    Have at it. I theorize that most, especially those to whom this is directed, will refuse to answer citing some excuse. Let's see.

    To the moderators... these were all non-watermarked images that I manipulated only to make the sizes all similar. They were freely posted online at various public sites.
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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    If anyone classifies all these individuals 100% correctly outright, and provides their reasons by each decision, with no running to Google (again, on your honor), I will IMMEDIATELY Paypal you $100.00 or send you a check for that amount (first one to get 100% correct). There are only two valid responses: BELONGS or DOESN'T BELONG which means you are saying "TS" or "NOT TS".

    This offer expires midnight on New Year's Eve.


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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Might be a cop-out, Krissy, but it appears to me at least that every person pictured sees themselves as female, and isn't that what's important at the end of the day? What does it matter how the rest of the world chooses to label them? It's what's inside that counts.


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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Might be a cop-out, Krissy, but it appears to me at least that every person pictured sees themselves as female, and isn't that what's important at the end of the day? What does it matter how the rest of the world chooses to label them? It's what's inside that counts.
    I cannot answer that as it would give clues to the people pictured, but I will say that your premise is incorrect. I will say this: If you say 100% everyone belongs or 100% everyone doesn't... you will be wrong.

    This is a specific point that I'm making. You cannot accurately judge TS status based upon looks alone. Those who say they can, with even a remote bit of accuracy, are full of BS. All other arguments / points about the TV vs TS topic must start from that truth.

    If you can, accurately make that distinction, then this should be an easy $100.00 for you.

    I don't believe you can. And I believe that if you do make that distinction based upon looks, then you really have no credibility seriously discussing TS related matters or having any input into the community.

    In hindsight, I revoke the Paypal and check. I will send you, in the mail, a crisp $100.00 bill or a blank money order to the address of your choosing. Paypal contains information about me personally, which I just don't trust some people with. Same with the check.


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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Ok.
    If these photos were sent to me by a photographer of a prospective model - and I get about 30-50 applicants a week, then this would be MY answers. Please note, when I say "unattractive" I'm basing that purely on sellability as a model on an adult website.
    Starting at top left and going in rows.

    1. Doesn't belong - not passable or attractive.
    2. Doesn't belong although image too small to judges right. Boy.
    3. Does belong - good look.
    4. Doesn't belong - too draggy.
    5. Doesn't belong - too draggy
    6. Possible female - if trans then belongs.
    7. Doesn't belong - unattractive (poss. female)
    8. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    9. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    10. Does belong - good look
    11. Does belong - good look.
    12. Doesn't belong - unattractive (female?)
    13. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    14. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    15. Does belong - good look.
    16. Doesn't belong - although would need to see with makeup and hair done.
    17. Doesn't belong - although would see with better hair.
    18. Does belong
    19. Doesn't belong - unattractive.
    20. Would have to see further photos.
    21. Doesn't belong - male or identifies with.
    22. Woman?
    23. Does belong
    24. Doesn't belong - too draggy
    25. Does belong
    26. Does belong
    27. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    28. Doesn't belong - unattractive
    29. Probably does belong
    30. Would need to see close up.


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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Interesting mix of pics. I can see a few famous faces in there both TS and not. Androgynous pop-stars from Germany & Sweden (via Japan), male models who regularly model womenswear, famous TS's later in life etc. Doubt the people who are all hung up on labeling people will actually know who from who.

    Sean's list is confusing because 2 are missing and somewhere along the line the answers seem to lose it (probably because of accidently skipping 2 of the 30)



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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha2117 View Post
    Sean's list is confusing because 2 are missing and somewhere along the line the answers seem to lose it (probably because of accidently skipping 2 of the 30)

    Ooops - fixed I think.



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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy View Post
    OK, for those of you who missed the fine reading in the other thread, and for anyone else:

    Here are some pictures. Please determine for me, if being TS was THE ONLY (that is... looks were not the issue) qualification for being on a TS porn site, who would belong on it?
    It's not about a guessing game of who is and who isn't. It's about the people who are interested in TS women being presented with a real TS woman as opposed to a TV, which is generally understood to be a man with a fetish for dressing up as a woman.

    I'm sure there are times when we can't tell the difference from photos, but I'm not sure what that proves.

    "The ONE basic point that I have made, that everything flows through is simple: You cannot judge a person's TS status based upon looks alone. If you do so, you have no right at all discussing matters related to the subject with any seriousness. END BASIC POINT."

    I don't disagree, which is why those of us interested in real TS women depend on producers to present real TS women.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nysprod View Post
    It's not about a guessing game of who is and who isn't. It's about the people who are interested in TS women being presented with a real TS woman as opposed to a TV, which is generally understood to be a man with a fetish for dressing up as a woman.

    I'm sure there are times when we can't tell the difference from photos, but I'm not sure what that proves.
    Ahh well done mate! It seems that someone actually does understand the issue...

    Thank God for that


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    Default Re: Who Is The TV, the TS, and the ??

    Quote Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy View Post
    Please determine for me, if being TS was THE ONLY (that is... looks were not the issue) qualification for being on a TS porn site, who would belong on it?
    Presented with 2.5 dozen photos, I can only guess who is TS, TV, F, etc. (and I know I would be wrong maybe 50% of the time). But the premise that being TS is the only qualification for being on a TS porn site is flawed, as quite obviously (as Seanchai points out), many of these, IF TS, would not qualify based on looks: site models have to be attractive (or, since one could argue that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, we would have to split the qualifiers into different camps targeting different audiences).

    Seanchai based his response of belongs or doesn't belong on a combination of attractiveness (which was excluded by the premise) and gender state, which is actually how a producer would make that choice. Of course, there will be overlap between what one producer finds attractive and what another finds unattractive, but why would any producer would feature TS purely on the basis of being TS?



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