Chuck Norris;Keep the Gays OUT of the Boy Scouts!

[south ov da border]

[francisfkudrow]

Back at the height of the whole Chuck Norris is so tough/awesome phenomenon, I was skeptical. I knew he was an asshole regardless of how much people looked up to him.

[Token Williams-Black]

Y'all do realize there are already gay folks in the Scouts, right?

[GroobySteven]

Back at the height of the whole Chuck Norris is so tough/awesome phenomenon, I was skeptical. I knew he was an asshole regardless of how much people looked up to him.

He's always been a joke figure right? Did people ever look up to him?

[Stavros]

Maybe the real issue here is about this culture or sub-culture of 'character moulding' young boys and girls, be it the Scouts, the Hitler Youth, the Young Pioneers in the USSR and so on. What is it all for? To make men out of boys? Suppose like me you just don't like camping...? (ha ha).

Baden-Powell's scouting organisation did at one time use the swastika as an emblem in its badges but that was taken from the Hindu symbol for good luck which Baden-Powell was familiar with, and although he was initially supportive of Hitler and Mussolini for their 'robust' attitude to health and safety, he himself was on the Nazi's Black List of people to be arrested when the Germans invaded, and the swasitka emblem was dropped by the Scouts I think in the 1930s.

Scouting is in essence part of the military and dedicated to a mixture of reconnaissance and survival, and I am sure it makes sense for the SAS and people like that. But when I was in the movement I used to wonder why I was having to learn how to tie so many different types of knot, set up a tent and make a camp fire and help old ladies across the road. I wasn't any good at any of it, so I dropped out.

Ironically or not, Baden-Powell is generally thought of as a closet/repressed homosexual. After his marriage he suffered severe migraines -until shifting his bed into a room of his own, whereupon they cleared up -nevertheless there were three children, conceived, no doubt, in the missionary position . He had a buddy called Ken, but there is no concrete evidence of physical love.

Be Prepared!! Do Your Best!!

[Marty Mcfly]

Chuck is the Man.I have to agree with Him...Boy scouts should be worried about other things besides blowing their camp mates.

[irvin66]

Chuck is the Man.I have to agree with Him...Boy scouts should be worried about other things besides blowing their camp mates.

Fucking fagots...

[Prospero]

Isn't there an achievement badge or something for blowing your camp mates ... even if they're not camp.

Anyone familiar the old BBC comedy radio series will recall the character Bluebottle, played by Peter Sellers, who had the most idiotic high-pitched and rather camp voice. Peter Sellers once explained that that he got the voice from a childhood Boy Scout master who sounded exactly like that.

[GrimFusion]

[freedom]

wow, this thread really took a bizarre direction while i was at work....

There seems to be an undercurrent of "gay men are more likely to molest my boys" in some of the comments here. This is categorically untrue. As someone who works in criminal law i can tell you child molestation is overwhelmingly the province of "straight" people.

As for"onmyknees" critique, i think they should think about equality for a few minutes (hours hopefully). The fact is that when a young person joins a Scouts/Guides program they may not know if they are gay/transsexual/atheist/etc.

It is not for them to decide to set up new institutions where gays etc are welcome, it is the prerogative of the state to squash prejudicial institutions so that children do not have to grow up in a climate of fear.

Maybe i'm a "moron" (i assume that means Idealist) but the prejudice and hate of adults should not be visited upon the children.