I'm suspicious of anyone on this forum who claims to be a strict top

[tluva]

Sorry if you find this offensive, but after reading some of the threads, I get this impression that those who claim to be complete tops are not being honest with us, nor themselves.

As for TS girls, as I understand it... they feel like girls in a boys body. Being boys, they're pervs like all guys, but they're also feminine and sensitive and want what gg girls want. To be dominated, protected, charmed, and loved.

Their girl side includes the desire to be fucked. Not to say that they don't want to fuck a dude from time to time, but by and large, they want to be fucked and have their ass worshiped.

Since a TS is physiologially male, the special connection that they have with straight guys who also bottom is the intimate feeling they share of knowing tha experience.

There's something special about it. Plus, let's face it, getting fucked or just toying with your prostate is sexually stimulating if you remove the psychology of dom/sub, etc.

Lots of nerve endings, undiscovered pleasure senses, and the taboo of it is interesting. I mean let's face it, life gets boring, and after trying every drink, pill, smoke, porn fantasy.. the next level is finding something that's confusingly scary, sexy, painful, and pleasurable all in one. Receiving anal sex falls into that category.

Sorry for being so long winded about this post, but the point I'm making is that if you follow my slightly scattered logic here, it follows that exploring ass play (as the receiver) is something we all enjoy, and those who claim to be strict tops just don't seem genuine

In fact, most TS girls I've spoken with say guys always says they're tops, but then in the bedroom stick their ass up.

If you suck cock like a slut, you want to be a bitch too, and get your ass fucked. Why not just come out with it.

Otherwise, why mess with TS girls at all? Just stick with GG girls.

Anyone agree with this?

[Bribi]

I don't get of these threads.
More and more everyday.

First, why do you care?
Then, why would do suspect everybody to be a liar?
Finally, do you think your way of thinking is the ultimate and only one?

Everybody does what he wants, and if he wants to pretend, as long as he's not annoying or hurting, let him do.

[tsadriana]

guys are like girls ,girls are like guys....if a guy wants up his arse good fo him ....lol

[giovanni_hotel]

Yours is just one point of view.
There are guys on here who ONLY like postop TS.

There's all kinds here. If a guy says he's a top and has no desire to get fucked, why not believe him?? Just because you'll go down on a tgirl doesn't mean you want her to ride you from the back.

"If you suck cock like a slut, you want to be a bitch too, and get your ass fucked. Why not just come out with it."

That's just wrong and illogical.

[tluva]

I don't get of these threads.
More and more everyday.

First, why do you care?
Then, why would do suspect everybody to be a liar?
Finally, do you think your way of thinking is the ultimate and only one?

Everybody does what he wants, and if he wants to pretend, as long as he's not annoying or hurting, let him do.

Well, it's just a topic of conversation. This is a forum for that after all.

My personal reasons for bringing it up relate to comments I've seen made in threads I had interest in, and those comments smacked of a type of smugness. As if being a bottom is wrong.

Sure, to each their own. I'm just sharing my opinion... and again, my motivation is based on comments I've heard from others that were a bit off putting. I could just let that go... as I suppose you could have with regard to my thread here.

[tluva]

Yours is just one point of view.
There are guys on here who ONLY like postop TS.

There's all kinds here. If a guy says he's a top and has no desire to get fucked, why not believe him?? Just because you'll go down on a tgirl doesn't mean you want her to ride you from the back.

"If you suck cock like a slut, you want to be a bitch too, and get your ass fucked. Why not just come out with it."

That's just wrong and illogical.

Yes, indeed, this is just my opinion. But illogical, I don't know if I agree.

A man sucking cock is inherently a subject of ridicule for all guys growing up. The joke/insult implies the guy is gay.

And so... these guys grow up being straight, dating GG girls, and then one day get the idea to suck a cock.. but that's not connected to exploring their own femininity?

I would argue on some level it must be. And so as logic would follow, being fucked is definitely in the ball park. Maybe they have other hang ups about it, but despite the "to each their own" argument, there seems to be a fairly clear and obvious line that follows the emotional state of wanting dick in your mouth and wanting to be fucked.

Maybe I'm wrong. But the logic is cogent, and if I'm right, then of all the places on the web, why hide that about yourself here?

[dderek123]

I don't get of these threads.
More and more everyday.

First, why do you care?
Then, why would do suspect everybody to be a liar?
Finally, do you think your way of thinking is the ultimate and only one?

Everybody does what he wants, and if he wants to pretend, as long as he's not annoying or hurting, let him do.

Yeah I agree with this. Why be so worried about what other people are doing in bed? As long as they aren't hurting anyone it should be fine.

The only time I get bothered by the posters that say that they are strict tops is when they call other members fags for not being strict tops. And then they'll rationalize this with how they have never touched a TSs penis and that makes them 100% straight. Fuck that's annoying, misinformed and juvenile. My ignore list just gets longer as time goes by.

[Prospero]

99 per cent of almost everything posted should be taken with a pinch of salt

[giovanni_hotel]

By your logic eating out a GG's pussy would be tantamount to 'exploring one's own femininity'.

When a guy who identifies as straight for most his life suddenly discovers he has an intense attraction for TS, the latent desire to blow a TS isn't about a love for cock. It's about wanting to get her off. There's a difference.

Guys are more goal oriented during sex, unlike women who are more process focused,(wooing, romance, foreplay).

If a guy has sex with a woman and she doesn't have an orgasm, most guys feel inadequate.

It's still illogical to assume because a man will fellate a TS, he really has a secret desire to be fucked.

Even among gay men, not all of them who suck dick want to get fucked.

[dderek123]

^ well it seems that some members that have come and gone are a salty mess.