Question/Idea For Seanchai

[nysprod]

Seanchai has given an excellent analysis on the economic realities of running a site...like any new start-up, one of (if not the biggest) issue is capitalization...most new businesses fail simply because they do not have the money to keep running until a profit is made.

Think about where FB or Twitter would be without investors throwing money into them years before any profit is made, if there ever is any to begin with...and even if FB looks like the greatest thing right now, remember there used to be a day when AOL and Myspace ruled the world.

One question I do have is about running a site where the owner is the main talent e.g. Bailey Jay...I would think those have more potential to be profitable.

[GroobySteven]

One question I do have is about running a site where the owner is the main talent e.g. Bailey Jay...I would think those have more potential to be profitable.

You certainly cut out some of the costs - but then you'd have to hire a photographer so there would be extra costs there. My initial budgets assumed that the producer would also photoshop the images and edit the videos as well as webmaster the website. If they can't do that (or if the model/owner can't) then you can throw another $500-$1000 onto the budget a month.

With "e.g. Bailey Jay" therein lies the key - there is only one Bailey Jay and she's had massive exposure even before she first modeling for Grooby as Linetrap/Harley Quinn. Solo girls can make their sites work but they take a massive amount of work and dedication as well as time (and realistic expectations) for what is often a fairly low return.

[nysprod]

Solo girls can make their sites work but they take a massive amount of work and dedication as well as time (and realistic expectations) for what is often a fairly low return.

The exact same can be said about running any business...it's one thing to have an idea and dream about easy money, but the reality is that as a business owner you'd better be prepared to put in plenty of sweat equity in addition to your cash.

One the other hand, running a business is the dream of many...and if you're a person who places value on working for yourself and making your own way in the world, that in itself makes it worthwhile.

Just go into something like this with your eyes open.

[christianxxx]

Are you kidding me with what you just said? There are so many on tube sites that peep don't need to buy?
You go find me some high quality Trap content on tube sites? I'm not talking about low ass grainy flash quality. Or video of some bro with a wig filming himself in his mothers panties. I've searched the net for years to see if this sort of content was out there. In high quality form. Not some bullshit low grade crap that's on a tube site. And there isn't nada.

I get Christian on here basically putting my idea down, for what reason I have no clue. Like I wanna compete with him fucking some fat chick on a couch, or some old lady on his site. That was pretty uncalled for to just shoot it down like that. You don't know me, or Lily or many of the people on this board. You don't know that I don't have connections, or know people in the know so to say. You have no idea how good a photographer/Director I am, when it comes to modeling. Just because you've banged mostly every girl on the block, that does not make you a genius in the web world.
And your so called advertising skills arent as hard as you make them out to be..Anyone can jump on a site like HA and post an update and link. And the same thing goes for twitter. I've seen your promotion on twitter for your site. Seriously, nothing hard to do...But thanks anyway for your most knowledgeable advice...

hahahaaha - someone call the wambulance. don't cry bro seriously. I just gave you the truth about your idea which the owner of one of the largest networks in the world then completely backed up with numbers. if you don't believe me, than believe him.

second, you think my website makes money? lol - i make less than 2000 a month off my site and that's with me doing everything in my power to get joins and with my content being free.

third, I completely know that you and Lily don't have connections or know people in the know. Get serious, don't confuse being a fan with being in the industry. lol

[bluesoul]

I get Christian on here basically putting my idea down, for what reason I have no clue. Like I wanna compete with him fucking some fat chick on a couch, or some old lady on his site. That was pretty uncalled for to just shoot it down like that. You don't know me, or Lily or many of the people on this board. You don't know that I don't have connections, or know people in the know so to say. You have no idea how good a photographer/Director I am, when it comes to modeling. Just because you've banged mostly every girl on the block, that does not make you a genius in the web world.
And your so called advertising skills arent as hard as you make them out to be..Anyone can jump on a site like HA and post an update and link. And the same thing goes for twitter. I've seen your promotion on twitter for your site. Seriously, nothing hard to do...But thanks anyway for your most knowledgeable advice...

[Ms.Stepford]

I don't think the talent base is sufficient to supply this niche, unless you want to release a bunch of shots of models cut off at the neck. Most of these kids seem to be anonymous boys who don't want to show their faces.

Not that there aren't a good handful of really viable models, but only a handful of them will want to get into the industry, and if they don't live around each other, travel costs are going to run you dry while you overshoot them.

[runningdownthatdream]

Are you kidding me with what you just said? There are so many on tube sites that peep don't need to buy?
You go find me some high quality Trap content on tube sites? I'm not talking about low ass grainy flash quality. Or video of some bro with a wig filming himself in his mothers panties. I've searched the net for years to see if this sort of content was out there. In high quality form. Not some bullshit low grade crap that's on a tube site. And there isn't nada.

I get Christian on here basically putting my idea down, for what reason I have no clue. Like I wanna compete with him fucking some fat chick on a couch, or some old lady on his site. That was pretty uncalled for to just shoot it down like that. You don't know me, or Lily or many of the people on this board. You don't know that I don't have connections, or know people in the know so to say. You have no idea how good a photographer/Director I am, when it comes to modeling. Just because you've banged mostly every girl on the block, that does not make you a genius in the web world.
And your so called advertising skills arent as hard as you make them out to be..Anyone can jump on a site like HA and post an update and link. And the same thing goes for twitter. I've seen your promotion on twitter for your site. Seriously, nothing hard to do...But thanks anyway for your most knowledgeable advice...

There's a reason why you're living in Buffalo wearing that tinfoil shirt - you don't know jack shit about making money. All of Christian's points are valid. You should try to win him over to your side by presenting valid ideas on how to succeed in online porn. That way you'd have a knowledgeable partner supporting you instead of a 20yr kid with 0 business experience whom you're in lust with. You come along with your trapsite idea 20 years after the internet became a phenomenon and you think you're the first guy to think about it? Worse you're whining like a a little bitch about the wholly useful information he gave you? Most people would have to pay a consultant to get the info he just provided to you for free.

Stay in Buffalo - you deserve each other.

[EvaCassini]

OMG I love Wilf!!!!

[LilyRox]

That way you'd have a knowledgeable partner supporting you instead of a 20yr kid with 0 business experience whom you're in lust with.

This statement is invalid. Maybe you should learn about people before posting senseless accusations about them.

[runningdownthatdream]

This statement is invalid. Maybe you should learn about people before posting senseless accusations about them.

Well you haven't demonstrated any business knowledge here but for the sake of being polite how does "little to no business experience" work? Likewise maybe you can help yourself out tremendously by acknowledging you're damn young and haven't had time to gain the experience that others have had and who may actually be able to help you.