17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

[natina]

Judge Throws Out George Zimmerman's Lawsuit Against NBC

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida judge on Monday dismissed the defamation lawsuit filed by George Zimmerman against NBC and three reporters, saying the former neighborhood watch leader failed to show the network acted with malice.

Judge Debra Nelson said the malice standard was appropriate because Zimmerman became a public figure after he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford in February 2012, generating a national conversation about race and self-defense laws.

Zimmerman "voluntarily injected his views into the public controversy surrounding race relations and public safety in Sanford and pursued a course of conduct that ultimately led to the death of Martin and the specific controversy surrounding it," said Nelson, who presided over Zimmerman's criminal trial last summer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5543711.html

[natina]

George Zimmerman said I WILL KILL YOU!

ORLANDO, Fla. — A driver says George Zimmerman threatened to kill him, asking “Do you know who I am?” during a road confrontation in their vehicles, a police spokeswoman said Friday.

The driver, whose name hasn’t been released, told Lake Mary police officers that a truck pulled up to his car Tuesday and the driver yelled, “Why are you pointing a finger at me?”

The truck’s driver then asked the man, “Do you know who I am? I will kill you,” the man told police officers, said Officer Bianca Gillett, a police spokeswoman.

The man said he recognized the truck’s driver as George Zimmerman. The man pulled into a nearby gas station and called police officers, but the truck was gone by the time they arrived, Gillett said.


http://nypost.com/2014/09/12/george-...ill-me-driver/
http://nypost.com/2014/09/12/george-...ill-me-driver/
http://nypost.com/2014/09/12/george-...ill-me-driver/
http://nypost.com/2014/09/12/george-...ill-me-driver/

[natina]

TWO NEW NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT ZIMMERMAN

guns get you into more trouble then they get you out of

At Home With the Zimmermans

Family keeps 'go bags' to flee, uses code names: Amanda Robb


The Zimmerman family isn't big on public life these days: They live in an undisclosed location in Florida, and to bring a GQ reporter to the rental house, they wanted her blindfolded. Ultimately, they nixed the visit, but Amanda Robb still interviewed them, and offers a portrait of their lives since what they call "the incident": the shooting of Trayvon Martin. The family—George's parents, Gladys and Bob, and his siblings, Robert and Grace—live in constant fear of attack. They watched the Ben Affleck film Argo "to learn how to live like CIA," Robb writes. That includes code names and color-coded threat warnings, as well as "go bags" packed in case they need to flee.

Meanwhile, they're "deeply in debt," with George owing lawyers $2.5 million; his parents have spent nearly $27,000 on their hidden residence and hotel rooms while still paying a mortgage on their empty house. Robert now sees himself as the "Zimmerman in charge of rebranding" the family. One idea, which hasn't panned out, was to make George into a reality-TV sensation. Robert also offers an interesting tidbit about his childhood: Bob regularly told his kids that "guns will get you into more trouble than they will ever get you out of," Robert says. As for George, they don't see him much, though he calls. He currently fears federal civil rights charges over the shooting: "He's worried that if FBI agents come and kick in his door, he's probably gonna shoot a few of them," his father says. Click for the full piece
Zimmerman Family Values
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-...-family-values


http://www.newser.com/story/196545/a...immermans.html


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Zimmerman Family Values

Until his little brother, George, shot and killed an unarmed black teenager on the sidewalk of a Florida gated community more than two years ago, Robert Zimmerman Jr. was "the family fuckup." He used the phrase with me a lot, but the first time was in October 2012, at a dark back table at the Algonquin Hotel's Blue Bar in Manhattan, six months after what all the Zimmermans call "the incident." He was downing a double gin and soda, and he was wearing a Hugo Boss suit, "diamond" earrings from Kohl's, and the remnants of airbrush concealer from a quick appearance on Fox News's Geraldo at Large. He went on to name all the ways he was a lousy namesake for his father, Bob, a former Army sergeant, and a disappointing son for his mother, Gladys, a fierce, devoutly Catholic first-generation immigrant from Peru. "Unemployed. College dropout. With a DWI and a boyfriend," he said, listing his sins. (The boyfriend was a big problem for Gladys, somewhat less so for Bob.) But then, overnight, George had become "the Wreck-It Ralph of America," and Robert—articulate, sweet-natured, maybe in over his head—was thrust into the role of family savior. "You know what that means?" he said, ordering a second gin and soda. "Zimmerman in charge of rebranding

So Robert got to work, defending his brother in the media dozens of times over the next year. The circumstances may have been grim, but the small doses of celebrity could be fun. He had both Greta Van Susteren and Sean Hannity in his phone contacts. He braved HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, appearing on the show shortly before the first anniversary of the night that George shot Trayvon Martin. Unlike with the news channels, he got paid this time: $800. It was the only income Robert earned that whole year. He had a great time doing the show and an even better one afterward over drinks with fellow guest Donna Brazile, an African-American political operative who managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. "I miss black people!" he told her.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-...-family-values

[natina]

Attorney: Man shot at George Zimmerman in self-defense

LAKE MARY, Fla. —
The attorney for a Seminole County man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a road rage incident on Monday said he opened fire in self-defense.


http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...medium=twitter

Zimmerman wounded in shooting

http://www.wftv.com/gallery/news/loc...hooting/gCSg6/

[Plaything]

'My very first pistol was a cap'n'ball Colt
A cap'n'ball Colt
Soon found out...
It'll get you into trouble but it can't get you out..

Then I went and bought myself a Colt 45
A Colt 45
Called a 'peacemaker' but I never knew why...

...Mama says a pistol is The Devil's right hand'

[yodajazz]

'My very first pistol was a cap'n'ball Colt
A cap'n'ball Colt
Soon found out...
It'll get you into trouble but it can't get you out..

Then I went and bought myself a Colt 45
A Colt 45
Called a 'peacemaker' but I never knew why...

...Mama says a pistol is The Devil's right hand'

The longer I live, and thats a pretty long time, I see these old sayings representing profound truth.

Somewhere in the Bible, Fear is called "a tool of the devil". The recent news of killings involving police, and the Zimmerman case, all involve Fear from the person doing the killing. In my city, police drove up and killed 12 year old Tamir Rice, next door to a recreation center. A tool of fear is to focus on the most negative of possibilities. I just learned on an incident in Chicago a couple of years ago. It has made recent news because the policeman was just acquitted of the charges against him. I'm not sure if he was on duty, or 'in plain clothes, and an unmarked car. He killed a young woman who was walking with three males, after one of the men pulled out a cell phone, and pointed it at him, which he claimed to have mistook for a gun. His acquittal was because his actions did not meet the charges filed by the prosecutor. A pistol allows someone to react to fear,the fastest way.

Speaking of Fear, in the Zimmerman case, I say that it was reasonable that Trayvon felt fear from Zimmerman following him. Thus, if he was banging Zimmerman's head, it was because Zimmerman created a climate of fear, in following him, even after he ran. The defense strategy involved lessening the possibility that Travonn could have be scared, because he was a future criminal. So there is Fear, and 'reasonable fear'.

@Peacemaker I say, that the gun was called a peacemaker, because the concept was about preventing violence. Solve all issues peacefully, or the 45 was the last resort.

[natina]

Emergency workers talk about George Zimmerman leaving the hospital


http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/raw-...spital/vDR7jW/

Attorney: Man shot at George Zimmerman in self-defense

LAKE MARY, Fla. —
The attorney for a Seminole County man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a road rage incident on Monday said he opened fire in self-defense.


http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...medium=twitter

Zimmerman wounded in shooting

http://www.wftv.com/gallery/news/loc...hooting/gCSg6/

[natina]

Matthew Apperson's Alleged Shot at George Zimmerman was in Self-Defense



http://www.newser.com/story/206723/l...f-defense.html

http://www.newser.com/story/206671/g...-incident.html

[bobvela]

Lynch mobs are (unfortunately) so interesting to watch...

When they succeed, we see how some view extra-judicial 'justice', and when they fail, we see how they will pounce at any opportunity to exploit weakness.

I have no particular love for George Zimmerman, though I recognized early on that he would walk free (just as the Baltimore cops will and for similar reasons, again, mark my words).

In the last series of breathless posts from natina, we see one such member of the mob seemingly gleeful with news that a person had been shot... yet we do not see from her or anyone else the follow-up, that the admitted shooter has been arrested and charged by the local PD.

"After conducting numerous interviews throughout the week, detectives determined that Mr. Apperson did intentionally fire his weapon into the vehicle occupied by George Zimmerman without provocation," Gillett said in a statement.

Which is it? Either George Zimmerman was so amazingly smart to point a gun at his attacker and quickly roll up his passenger side window before ducking to avoid getting hit... or Matthew Apperson was so dumb to shoot through a tinted window towards where he figured the head of his target would be.

Seriously, which is more likely?

[trish]

Why were any of these assholes carrying a gun?