Transgender girlfriend reverted back to male

[Rabbiteyes]

Transgender is the blanket term for any non gender conforming behaviour (even crossdressing). So, they might not be TRANSSEXUAL, but they are still very much transgendered.

And, really, there are a lot of manifestations of transgendered people (along with the entire semantics / binary battle of "male" or "female", which is simply foolish in the first place).

I identify as male. Even though I have been on hormones for 22 months, had an orchiectomy, dress in female clothing, have long nails and hair, and can pass (and want to look as feminine as I can).

Really, the only thing that differentiates me from a "real transsexual" is I don't buy into the idea that I have to label myself female in order to embrace femininity.

So, when you say he reverted "back to male"....in what way? Simply he considers himself male now? But still looks / is feminine? Or, is he trying to embrace the stereotypes of a "man" and is trying to act like he "should" and adopt a more masculine presentation?

[cutesteph]

I know for a fact there's at least one high-profile porn "girl" who frequents this site and is no more transexual than Barack Obama is. This person strictly does the whole "shemale" thing for money/entertainment. It's not all that uncommon.

There is really that much money to be made in transgender porn? I think there is much more money in other industries without putting oneself in life altering procedures and under hormones if one was not truly transgender.

[amberskyi]

Transgender is the blanket term for any non gender conforming behaviour (even crossdressing). So, they might not be TRANSSEXUAL, but they are still very much transgendered.

And, really, there are a lot of manifestations of transgendered people (along with the entire semantics / binary battle of "male" or "female", which is simply foolish in the first place).

I identify as male. Even though I have been on hormones for 22 months, had an orchiectomy, dress in female clothing, have long nails and hair, and can pass (and want to look as feminine as I can).

Really, the only thing that differentiates me from a "real transsexual" is I don't buy into the idea that I have to label myself female in order to embrace femininity.

So, when you say he reverted "back to male"....in what way? Simply he considers himself male now? But still looks / is feminine? Or, is he trying to embrace the stereotypes of a "man" and is trying to act like he "should" and adopt a more masculine presentation?

for many of us it isnt simply an idea that we're buying into.when you word it like that it sounds like your saying that our identity as woman is shallow and misguided.i respect where your coming from but ive spent my whole life KNOWING that i was a woman inside.it was a source of great pain and confusion growing up.its not simply femininity (ive been feminine my whole life) that i aspire to but womanhood.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I also disagree with Rabbiteyes..

Then by that regard do you prefer the male or female pronouns?

And did you change your name to female?

If you identify as a man..why would you want to look feminine?

Doesn't make sense..

Taking hormones and having orchiectomy proves nothing of being transsexual.

You can get both with out talking to a counselor/psych!

In my opinion too many are misdiagnosed and actually suffer from body dysphoria.

[Rabbiteyes]

for many of us it isnt simply an idea that we're buying into.when you word it like that it sounds like your saying that our identity as woman is shallow and misguided

What is the difference between...

A person born male, but has a great deal in common with women. Is sexually "feminine", is physically feminine, has a more feminine personality, sounds feminine, wishes to look even more feminine (and begins to take hormones and has surgeries), takes on a feminine social role, and dresses feminine....and thinks of himself as a he.

And a transsexual who does the same things, but considers herself a she?

I have found in the last year as I began to look more feminine that more and more people try to CONVINCE me I'm female.

I ask myself why this is... why people close to me are suddenly so sure I am female (when 2 years ago, they were so sure I was male). I came to realize that the identification of my gender was for their own benefit.

That their understanding of how gender worked simply didn't allow for there to be a boy who seemed in all ways what they saw as female (in the same way the opposite side sees a transgendered woman and demands she is a male because she was born that way).

I don't try to tell others what they are (only myself). But, as I sit back and watch the entire dynamic of non-gender conforming people, I see that they have grown up with the same social expectations as the rest of the population.

Transgendered people aren't free of society telling them their entire lives that "boys are boys" and "girls are girls"... and in their minds, when they cross a certain threshold of femininity... their minds switch over to considering themselves female. ((Just as those around me did when I crossed that threshold).

To me, it is all a silly battle of semantics. While it shouldn't matter...in our messed up society, the simple label of "male" or "female" has profound effects on a persons life (which is why I may legally change my gender to female at some point). But, the deeper battle over the words themselves? I do think is a little silly.

I don't understand why the definition of male and female are so limited... why there can't exist someone like me and be male (when there obviously is). It is proof that the entire binary battle is rather misguided.

Basically, our society is very much existing in its own head :P A man sleeping with me may feel great and fine if he can call me a girl...but if he uses another word, suddenly his entire world comes crumbling down around him?

If I use one word and sign a piece of paper, I can marry the man I love. If I use another word, suddenly it is illegal and wrong?

If these facts of how our country / population works aren't proof of a delusional society, I don't know what is.

[Donkey]

In my opinion too many are misdiagnosed and actually suffer from body dysphoria.

Kelly is 100% correct.

Not just body dysphoria, but many other disorders as well.

[Donkey]

There is really that much money to be made in transgender porn? I think there is much more money in other industries without putting oneself in life altering procedures and under hormones if one was not truly transgender.

Not so much porn, but escorting.

[runround04]

I find if they were really transgendered they wouldn't "revert back"...

So ummm..yeah

Ya mean ya cant just turn it off? lol

[BeardedOne]

If you're truly in 'love' with them, why would the gender they identify with/present make a difference?

[natina]

there are some homophobic gays on this thread

Homophobic gays
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=57214

HOMOPHOBIC GAYS and the difference between a TS & a CD/TV/DQ
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=59838

Tgirls calling guys "fags" for liking them.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=57502

I've been tricked

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=60780

homophobes secretly gay? A new study purports to prove

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...y_.single.html