What do you consider Gay?

[nicebrn]

Yeah. Intellectually, I agree with you. But if I'm honest, in my heart I still see bottoming as gay.

I think it's because of the whole dominance/submission thing. To me, penetrative sex involves submission, and I perceive a male who is submissive to be gay. I'm probably wrong to label it that way. Thanks for pointing that out.

Let's come back to this, because this really does seem to be the root of the issue. (Not addressed directly at you audifan...just throwing it out for discussion.)

Why would penetration necessarily imply submission?

I can only say that if you think it must do so all the time, then you've probably never fucked a really bossy power bottom.

[dopearope]

he's hardly obscure if he's in every tranny porn vid ever

[audifan]

Let's come back to this, because this really does seem to be the root of the issue. (Not addressed directly at you audifan...just throwing it out for discussion.)

Why would penetration necessarily imply submission?

I can only say that if you think it must do so all the time, then you've probably never fucked a really bossy power bottom.

Doesn't necessarily. But it does to me. And I'm scared of bossy girls!

I think my prev post on bottoming being something physically you can't do in "traditional" hetero sex but can in traditional "gay" sex may be closer to the root.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I agree with this sentiment....

Gay is when you see your significant other as someone of the same sex....

Bisexual is when you can see your significant other as either same sex/oppisite

And I think you are Asexual when you just like sex and as long as you are attracted you want to fuck them lol

[CaliBoy951]

IMO, gay is when you look at what is between a persons legs (of the same sex) before you see the rest of them and get turned on.

I NEVER even knew what a TS was prior to dating one. The one I dated, I met her through her cousin and was attracted to her and I had no clue, and we hooked up later and that was when I found out (another story).

What I am trying to say is that if you are chasing a TS because of what she has between her legs, that is kinda' gay, IMO. But, if you are open to date a TS based on her as a person and NOT what is between her legs then that is not gay.

Again, this is just my opinion, and I am NOT saying that is the way it is for everybody!

[DL_NL]

A man is gay when he's exclusively into men.

[iagodelgado]

For those who think it's about plumbing, genetics or who tops/bottoms, kindly explain your theory using the picture below.

Plumbing = pussy.
Genetics = XX (supposedly female)
Tops/bottoms? Don't know. Does "identifies as gay male with a pussy" help?

[TsVanessa69]

what happened to 'bi'?

i think someone is only gay when he/she can/will only kiss/have sex/develop feelings for someone of the same sex. anything else i'd consider 'bi' or 'adventurous' lol

for instance, i appreciate the view and touch of a nice dick, as a sexual organ. however, i'm only physically/sexually attracted to people who i could actually potentially date, which in my case would be a female or passable TS. what would you consider that to be?

a straight guy in touch with his freaky side. Ts and females are both woman.

[anaxander]

Sex for me has less to do with sexual organs and more to do with gender roles. I like women.

[TsJennifer]

If a male is attracted to men and men only makes them gay