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    Default Ex Porn Star Shelley Lubben Testifies at California...

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    Default Re: Porn stars leave porn...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben
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    Porn Star Tamra Toryn Leaves Porn:

    If all these girls say it's bad then it's bad because they live the life, it's bullshit for people to play monday morning quarterback when you haven't live the life saying " i think" is going to cut it.I remember khloe hart saying she was getting out after the brutal surprise gang rape was setup by vicki the hutt and she got out, in my opinion those girls do have courage for saying f**k this and walking away.

    That wasn't directed at you ben.



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    Brutal gang rape of Khloe Hart? When was that? During filming something?



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    Quote Originally Posted by dj4monie
    Now Ben, I don't know WHY you posted this. I live in Porn Valley for one thing, I know the industry fairly well.

    Its not for the light hearted...

    Now having said that, I watched your link only long enough to see where I knew it was going - Jesus

    I'm a firm believer, that Jesus helps thoughts who help themselves.

    Her basic problem was she was in constant need of money.

    Money for what?

    Clearly she entered Prostitution and then Porn when she found regular employment didn't give her enough money.

    Money for what?

    I've lost quite a bit of money and spent even more, but I didn't look to dive into some industry I knew wasn't for me to start with.

    This is one of the thousand of lazy ass American women that entered porn for a quick buck and then look to leave and salvation from The Church to become somewhat "normal".

    To be frank I wasn't surprised how she got involved, how it brought her self-esteem down even further than it was, when she was turning tricks for $70.

    Now we have another foot solider against porn - Thumbs Down

    I wouldn't say lazy as much as screwed up. These pornstars don't make a lot of money when you consider it's on film for the world to see forever. I say good for her. Can she stick with it? This might be the best decision she ever made, even if she marries into some kooky, bible belt family. Some evangelical dude is going to get a hot wife.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer
    Brutal gang rape of Khloe Hart? When was that? During filming something?
    Yeah it happen during filming and soon after she posted that it was totally unexpected and she was hurt i think that incident made her quit or retire from the industry something like that.It was all setup by vicki richter aka vicki the hutt i guess she wanted khloe to be as disgusting as her so she had her abused by a couple of meatheads on film. Incidents like that is the reason girls quit the industry, you have shady people who really don't give a crap about the girl.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer
    Brutal gang rape of Khloe Hart? When was that? During filming something?
    Yeah it happen during filming and soon after she posted that it was totally unexpected and she was hurt i think that incident made her quit or retire from the industry something like that.It was all setup by vicki richter aka vicki the hutt i guess she wanted khloe to be as disgusting as her so she had her abused by a couple of meatheads on film. Incidents like that is the reason girls quit the industry, you have shady people who really don't give a crap about the girl.
    I've got nothing against you personally, Legend. But I think I'm gonna call BS here.

    First I think you have to be putting us on, about the retiring porn-whores. No one can be this naive, or Innocent. You must be doing it as a way to entertain the forum, yes?

    Also Legend, I own a copy of the American Shemales: Beyond Hardcore DVD. There was no gang rape in it, whatsoever. Furthermore it wasn't violent or brutal, at all. It was slightly rough, but mild, compared to mainstream porn standards. Especially compared to some of the rough male/GG porn that I've watched, in the past. Khloe was just overly sensitive, IMO. She's pretty, but she'll never be a good fulltime porn-whore. She's better off doing solos sets for some part time side cash, when she needs it. Stuff like Shemale Strokers.
    But she better not quit her Day job.

    It's your right to dislike Richter, or whoever else you want. but don't make shit up about Gang rapes that never happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepres
    I've got nothing against you personally, Legend. But I think I'm gonna call BS here.

    First I think you have to be putting us on, about the retiring porn-whores. No one can be this naive, or Innocent. You must be doing it as a way to entertain the forum, yes?

    Also Legend, I own a copy of the American Shemales: Beyond Hardcore DVD. There was no gang rape in it, whatsoever. Furthermore it wasn't violent or brutal, at all. It was slightly rough, but mild, compared to mainstream porn standards. Especially compared to some of the rough male/GG porn that I've watched, in the past. Khloe was just overly sensitive, IMO. She's pretty, but she'll never be a good fulltime porn-whore. She's better off doing solos sets for some part time side cash, when she needs it. Stuff like Shemale Strokers.
    But she better not quit her Day job.

    It's your right to dislike Richter, or whoever else you want. but don't make shit up about Gang rapes that never happened.

    Well think what you want about me it doesn't affect me, however i come across it's on me and no one else.Those girls should be praised for turning their lives around and getting out of porn nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

    That was a brutal gang rape anyone who isn't into that kind of stuff would probably agree with me if they look at that scene.How can you even say she was insensitive when you've never been in that situation, she probably haven't done that kind of stuff until that shoot she didn't expect it to happen.In the end vicki was really shady for doing that to her, just because she does that stuff didn't give her the right to throw khloe in that situation.



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    A gang bang involves multiple men, I believe, whereas the scene in question involved KH and one male (I believe his name is Little Billy).

    There was also the "director/cameraman" who talked all sorts of stupid and aggressive bullshit during the scene, but he didn't touch KH.

    I thought the scene was overly rough and aggressive, and more than that it was not at all arousing. It was just bad porn.

    I could understand someone not wanting to do porn anymore after going through a scene like that, especially if they were inexperienced, and not expecting something like that.


    On the other hand, does Porn which is not exploitative and demeaning exist? Could it possibly exist?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepres
    I've got nothing against you personally, Legend. But I think I'm gonna call BS here.

    First I think you have to be putting us on, about the retiring porn-whores. No one can be this naive, or Innocent. You must be doing it as a way to entertain the forum, yes?

    Also Legend, I own a copy of the American Shemales: Beyond Hardcore DVD. There was no gang rape in it, whatsoever. Furthermore it wasn't violent or brutal, at all. It was slightly rough, but mild, compared to mainstream porn standards. Especially compared to some of the rough male/GG porn that I've watched, in the past. Khloe was just overly sensitive, IMO. She's pretty, but she'll never be a good fulltime porn-whore. She's better off doing solos sets for some part time side cash, when she needs it. Stuff like Shemale Strokers.
    But she better not quit her Day job.

    It's your right to dislike Richter, or whoever else you want. but don't make shit up about Gang rapes that never happened.
    That was a brutal gang rape
    Wrong again. Obviously you've never seen Khloe's segment of that video.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend
    anyone who isn't into that kind of stuff would probably agree with me if they look at that scene.
    I doubt it, since there was no rape, period. Again your passing judgment on something you haven't even seen. It's like insisting that 1+1=3. I'm sure the video wouldn't be to your taste, and to anyone else who are mostly into softcore stuff. Or enjoy being a male submissive. but saying there was a gang rape when there certainly wasn't, is meaningless. I'm only here to dispassionately clear the air, for the benefit of anyone who hasn't seen the video. You know how false rumors can get spread over the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend
    How can you even say she was insensitive when you've never been in that situation, she probably haven't done that kind of stuff until that shoot she didn't expect it to happen.
    I said she was overly sensitive, not Insensitive. What I saw in Khloe's segment of the Video, is Industry standard, outside of the shemale niche.
    Many shemale fans want to see their favorite girl in a more dominant role.
    They'd be more likely to overreact, to seeing their favorite tranny being dominated, because they're more into being submissive, in their shemale fantasies. I will admit that it is Richter's responsibility for not seeing beforehand, that this type of video wouldn't be appreciated by the many sycophants who are into being dominated, within the shemale niche.

    As for Khloe not knowing? Please. It was explained to her beforehand. She was an intelligent 26 year old at the time. I'm sure she had no trouble in her comprehension skills. What likely happened was that she overestimated her own personal ability to shrug it off, afterward. In other words, she wasn't as thick skinned as she thought she could be.

    In the video, Khloe was slapped on the ass while receiving a good fucking. She was also deepthroated, and talked to meanly, or verbally abused. And that was it. Very standard stuff in general porn, and she could have stopped anytime she wanted. She wasn't being held against her will.

    Richter, Khloe, and Danielle had segments in this video. But only Richter took the brunt of the REAL physical abuse. She got slapped in the face quite a bit, by Little Billy. Since you hate Her so much, maybe you should order the video. Then you can watch her being abused.
    Khloe made it clear that she didn't want to be slapped in the face, beforehand, and she wasn't. Danielle played a more dominant role over Vicki, in the final segment. But they were both being guided by the voice behind the camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend
    In the end vicki was really shady for doing that to her, just because she does that stuff didn't give her the right to throw khloe in that situation.
    I don't agree with this either. I believe what Richter sought to do was something that would make the shemale niche, more mainstream in the porn Industry. By doing things you would normally see in porn genres, outside of the shemale niche. In other words, do what the GGs are doing. It's too bad all of the sycophants overreacted.

    I'm not here to try to convert the many Richter haters. I just hate seeing blatant lies being told. I'm not really a Vicki fan myself, BTW. But I don't have any prejudices against her, either.

    Later.


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    wow
    what a bunch pf cynical fucks you all are...

    I see that video of nadia styles..I see a young girl, a bit confused, trying to make a better life for herself..
    shes not overly critical of the porn industry...she just seems to have realized that its not for her.
    whats wrong with that.

    I too--am a huge fan of porn...i wont deny it...but Id like to think that the girls involved really want to be there...are doing it WILLINGLY--for the $$--or some other personal gain

    but if someone chooses to leave---i think its inappropriate to then question their motivations and begrudge them a change of life..

    its like when girls (like danielle) cut their dicks off--and the self-centered assholes on this board --not realizing the bigger picture (that these girls we fantasize about are PEOPLE--with feelings and lives) give them shit and say really disrespectful shit like (i liked you better with a cock!)

    Its totally uncalled for--and really really LOW.



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