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04-28-2008 #31Originally Posted by Danny partridge
Unless you are pumped with Viagra, Cialis, etc- or NOT on hormones it is virtually impossible to get hard and ejeculate with every client.
I knew a male escort once who was very busy and his cao was 5 clients a day because he could not cum more than five times a day- and at the end he was exhausted. And for gay escorts, cumming is a must.
TS cutomers want a girl who looks flawlessly undetectable, smooth, feminine with a hard cock that shoots like Peter North. Now that might exist- but that is vistually impossible if you are taking homones and maitining your feminine apperance.
As well for a GG is is SOOOOOOO much easer for her to fake if the guy is completely hideous to her or not turning her on at all. A TS can't do that.
So I would say TS work is much harder, in the terms of preassure to perform.
Cause all ALL of oyu guys know, you all have times when your dick just ont budge- and that is in a no preassure, cassual sexual encounter.
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04-28-2008 #32
Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
And that's really always been the case in this business: all girls look at other girls and blame them for guys wanting discounts. But the guys who want discounts always wanted them. When there wasn't a CL, they just went to 14th St 9or wherever). And a lot of girls who say in public that they discount girls are "ruining the business" are at the same time doing the same thing. there are tons of girls who's "rate" is $300 or $400 or whatever that turn some tricks for a lot less. Half the girls on the the Grooby sites have been had for $100 at some time or another. There are girls who come up to me at.... wherever... and want me to trick with them who I really have to bite my tongue to avoid blurting out "I liked you better when you were charging $30 on 14th Street" (but I don't).
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04-28-2008 #33
Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
Originally Posted by Danny partridge
I think these girls dont realize that customers look at ALL the sites and
the papers. Though I am not sure really high end guys are looking on CL.
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04-28-2008 #34
There's an old line in the business that there are no $1,000 girls, only $1,000 tricks (OK, so I'm dating myself, this was when $1,000 was outrageous). Back when me and the other dinosaurs ran agencies where there was no internet, many agencies ran multiple ads with multiple phone numbers. The price on the ad corresponded with a phone number: so the agency had a $150 line, a $250 line, a $350 line.... but the girls were all the same no matter which line you called.
While that still exists a little bit, the internet has put a huge dent in that practice. but the point is still the same: there are tons of girls who charge different prices to different tricks. And as well there are tons of guys who pay all sorts of different prices for all different types of girls (like Allanah talked about the guy with the polaroids). I know quite a few guys who get $60 blowjobs at underground parties and also see girls for $1,500 overnites.
Just because you don't know about it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist: http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...=asc&start=158
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04-28-2008 #35
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One thing to consider as well, is that merely asking for high rates, does not always mean dates will pony up if one provides less than what is expected.
Websites like SER and more importantly TER have given men outlets to do "Consumer Reports" on female and trannie escorts. Time was when a trannie would demand $$$ and give the guy the worst 15mins of his life, then turn him out the door. Now dates have their revenge and girls know that. Top rated girls command high rates because in part reviews back them up.
OTHO guys have been known to blackmail a provider by stating they will give her a black mark if she won't do this or that.
Personally think the whole escort scene is getting a bit out of control, and recent scandals seem to prove my point. It seems like everyone and their mother (or father) is turning dates. CL cannot delete adverts fast enough, LE is pretty much shooting fish in a barrel pickings are so easy and good. It must be hard for workers, especially trannies to eek out a living, more so if they are in high rent areas.
For trannie escorts, the problem has always been there is only a finite amount of men interested in seeing TSs. GGs and even male escorts have a potential larger pool. Time was a trannie would just change her ad and be the "new girl" for awhile, but now with review sites that does not always work. Worse you have ( and I'm sorry to say this), latina trannies flooding the market, not just from south of the border, but many young girls (and some boys), finding out they can earn fast money turning dates as a girl.
The other problem is that many men who see trannies have little or no brand loyalty. While some may dream of being with a " top rated" girl, and spend accordingly. Others just want to get their itch scratched and want it done cheaply as possible.
In a way it is sad many of the non-working trannie bars are gone. It would free up men who don't wish to pay, to meet girls who don't charge, and leave the market to those who wish to play the game. I mean with all the St8 and gay bars in the world, there still are GGs and men who are paid good money for escorting. Even the Internet hasn't changed things that much.
Have said it before, one must remember not every top girl or boy is there for long. If one is ever lucky enough to attend a party at the Playboy mansion, you will see lots of "older" women who were "hot" in their days as porn queens, escorts and such, now basically hanging around for any guy to throw them a bone. Sure these women are only in their 30's or even 40's, but by industry standards they are old women. Guys want the hot 18 year olds from the Mid-West or where ever the new girls are coming from. Same with gay escorts/porn stars. Again visit over on Rentboy.com and other such sites and you will see some famous named models escorting. Maybe some great legends command top dollars, others go for what they can get.
In a way the Internet has been good for escorting, and very bad at the same time. While girls and guys no longer have to hit bars or street corners to work, the market has expanded to many players, and when that happens prices always go down.
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04-28-2008 #36
Re: The Landscape Of TS Escort Fees & Your Thoughts On
Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
In the old days, girls would go to certain hotel lobby bars that were known for having working girls (The Oak Bar at The Plaza was famous for it). Now they go on CL.
As far as higher end guys on CL, I have a close friend who sees at least one girl a week and sometimes three or four that he pays between $400 and $800 for (not an hour; for a "date" which lasts a minimum of 2 hours). I also know of guys who book up to $3,000 dates off of CL. But most of these guys are there trolling for "non pro" girls. Of course, even $3,000 isn't really high end. Which is why I chuckle when I hear guys talk about "no girl should charge more than $250" (or whatever). I think everyone here would be shocked if they knew the number of girls out there commanding (and getting) $10,000 a night (or MUCH more).
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04-28-2008 #37Originally Posted by Shining Star
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04-28-2008 #38Originally Posted by Shining Star
I don't think the review sites have changed things as much for TS escorts as for GG escorts in that I think there are still a higher percentage of "a trannie would demand $$$ and give the guy the worst 15mins of his life" than with GG girls. Certainly if you limit it to those who are "internet" girls. Just take a look at Eros: half of the "just visiting" or "new" TS girls are neither of those, whereas that's not nearly the case with GG girls.
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04-28-2008 #39Originally Posted by Shining Star
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04-28-2008 #40Originally Posted by Shining Star
You also see part timers getting more by using CL than they could get without the internet. There are all sorts of college girls, working single moms, etc. who trick to make ends meet. they may only throw an ad up once a week or once a month, but when they work they have lots of tricks to choose from. Before the internet, their options were extremely limited. Maybe try to drop some hints... but to who? A lot ended up streetwalking once in a while or going to the hotel bars, but then they only got the same prices the girls who went to those places got. Now, they can pick up guys on sites like Sugardaddie.com and get premium prices.