Hormones and moods

[wendy48088]

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[NadiaUSA]

Strawberry:

Just curious - Do you know this first hand or have it on good authority from several people you know?

Just to chime in with some info on the side here... this guy exists and is legit. Sometimes he rubs people the wrong way. I've heard different girls call him flirty, arrogant, and creepy (but no one reports all three). Some girls like him because he's totally into patient choice and is more likely to encourage higher doses than constantly put the breaks on. The unambiguously cool thing about him is basically that you can get "subdermal pellets" from him so you can stop taking pills every single day... and only think about hormones a couple times a year.

Another thing, if you're flying into LA for pellets, there's two options. Another guy in LA who also does subdermal estradiol pellets is called Dr. Horowitz who is "more legit" in that he doesn't really advertise online, he's cheaper, and (according to the grape vine) he requires letters from a therapist.

Dr. Richard Horowitz
8635 West 3rd Street, Suite 885
Los Angeles, CA
310-358-7200
rshorowitzmd@cs.com
...

Dr Oday is for TS that want reults. The other doctors in LA are not going to give as an agressive regimin.

[strawberry]

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Having now read a description of how Premarin is formulated, may impact my future HRT regimen. I of course knew that it came from pregnant mare urine, but didn't really fathom the barbarous conditions under which it was done.

I am not a big fan of injectables, I have had more than my fair share of sub-cutaneous Estradiol injections to the buttucks, and I don't think I would be too fond of sub dermal pellets either.

Thus for me, a happy medium is the use of Premarin cream ...

Now given the concerns that have been outlined about Premarin, what
do you see as a downside to vaginal creams such 17beta-estradiol as
a route of administration.

Basically, I have no clue. I hear about so much variation in results and preferences that my attitidue is basically that anyone pushing a one true way is likely to be acting on something other than certified true beliefs and nothing but deep and genuine concern for my personal well being :-P

Try it. If you think it's cool, yay! If you don't... try something else.

The thing I use the research for is to add in a bit of side info to let me know that "how I feel" isn't the *only* major concern. Like I don't think osteo is something you "feel" until your bones are already so weakened that they get hurt when they shouldn't and then you're already in a really bad place. So it's a legitmate worry if you're post-op and aren't taking *some* kind of hormones... so stay on some kind of hormones... it's a warning that "just because it feels OK right now doesn't mean it necessarily is in the long run".

Anything you don't swallow won't go through your liver first. But I always heard that creams were sorta a ripoff if you're trying to get your blood levels up. There are cheaper ways... but they involve pills or needles or something :-(

Like I said, it's really about getting a balance you're personally comfy with.

[arnie666]

Hello,

Please may I request personal accounts of how your hormones affect your moods, if at all? On the whole I'm ok, but there are times of the day (usually late at night) where I can get really down. And I don't like it. I'm guessing it's due to my oestrogen levels dropping, and am just interested to hear what others have to say.

My hormone regime is;

Cycled between; Premarin 5mg (8 * .625mg) daily. OR. Estradiol 8mg (4 * 2mg daily)
Progesterone 200mg
Post-op-orchiectomy

I'm just interested to hear how you get on and what you're taking.

Warm thanks,

Alison

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[peggygee]

I am comfortable with the efficacy of vaginal administration of
HRT. I am pleased with my endocrine levels and overall health.
That the cream aids in making my vaginal walls soft and pliable,
and that the cream acts as a lubricant is a bonus.

As you have pointed out, I am very dis-pleased with the
barbarous conditions under which Premarin is formulated.

In the mare, the period of gestation lasts an average of 11 -
11.5 months (330-350 days). Thus a mare could conceivabley be
engaged in Premarin production for that entire period.

At foaling, a mare’s daily nutrient requirements increase
significantly. The mares protein and energy requirements almost
double from early gestation to lactation, as do requirements for
calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin A.

If these need are not met, the mare’s ability to raise her
new foal and become pregnant again may be negatively
impacted. A mare will lactate for the fourth, fifth, and sixth
months.

Whether the mares foal may be aborted so as to maximize profit,
and to allow her to beome pregnant again is not known by me.

What is known is that I will be looking at other vaginal
cream HRT options forthwith.

http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/myths.shtml

http://cvm.msu.edu/courses/AP/foalbirth/diagnose.htm

http://www.xcodesign.com/aaep/displa...les.cfm?ID=119

[youcancallmeclaire]

My regimen is 400mg spiro and 4mg progynova, which usually leaves me crying my eyes out by the time 10pm rolls around.
It's probably not the best dose for me, but it's all I can afford right now.

[peggygee]

[tgirlzoe]

Whether the mares foal may be aborted so as to maximize profit,
and to allow her to beome pregnant again is not known by me.

My understanding is that a few foals are sold for entertainment. The majority get turned into glue or dog food.

It's similar to dairy farms where only a couple males are saved and the rest get sold as veal. With factory egg farming, they get a bunch of eggs in to hatch and then the male chicks are turned into fertilizer because they're not considered good as fryers and obviously can't make eggs. With cattle, they ground up dead cows to feed them to the other ones... apparently that's bad because now we have Mad Cow Disease.

Factory farming is bad.

[tgirlzoe]

Claire: I didn't know you were taking so much spiro. Don't you constantly have to pee? ^-^

I'm taking 200mg spiro, 4mg estradiol, 2.5mg medoxyprogesterone. When I have money burning a hole in my pocket, I pick up extra E off of Inhouse and go to 6mg or 8mg. I tried 5mg progesterone for a while but that played with my anxiety and such too much but I like that it gives me more energy. I know micronized is better but it's what I can afford.

I'm going to look at switching to shots soon (which I've been saying for two years now...). I can't wait to get an orchi, hopefully next year (2009) unless something comes up.

[peggygee]

Whether the mares foal may be aborted so as to maximize profit,
and to allow her to beome pregnant again is not known by me.

My understanding is that a few foals are sold for entertainment. The majority get turned into glue or dog food.

It's similar to dairy farms where only a couple males are saved and the rest get sold as veal. With factory egg farming, they get a bunch of eggs in to hatch and then the male chicks are turned into fertilizer because they're not considered good as fryers and obviously can't make eggs. With cattle, they ground up dead cows to feed them to the other ones... apparently that's bad because now we have Mad Cow Disease.

Factory farming is bad.

I truly had no idea that was the final fate
of those animals.

I may have to become a PETA member.

After I become a vegetarian again.

But it is truly barbaric.